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Click Click Click help please...
Onkyo tx-sv373 receiver, paradigm monitor 3 speakers and sub
System worked perfectly for 2+ years used with my Sound card it started clicking and going silent about 2 months ago... what i have done - took the amp in for servicing (nothing wrong could be found) although interestingly enough, it didn't click for days after it came back.... - amp has been completely blown out with a compressor - replaced spreaker wire with new wire - removed ground loop isolater Today, the amp has been clicking and turning off like crazy, even going silent without clicking...To make matters worse, the remote and buttons became intermittanly disabled - in other words, I could not adjust volume, change inputs or anything ????? I have just now disconnected the right speaker (with left disconnected there was immediate clicking) and there is no clicking for an hour now...amp controls are working fine... So what to do now ? these speakers are maybe 5 years old, I have treated them well... Perhaps it is an interference problem - I guess i could try moving the left speaker to see if the clicking can be reproduced on the right side ??.. Could it be Impedance ? don't think because all of a sudden now there is an impedance problem ? any suggestions ? If the speaker is the cause - is there anything I can do or is it junk ? Could it be electrical interference ? - I have a ton of wires in behind thanks |
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Click Click Click help please...
"Rabid man" wrote in message ups.com... Onkyo tx-sv373 receiver, paradigm monitor 3 speakers and sub System worked perfectly for 2+ years used with my Sound card it started clicking and going silent about 2 months ago... what i have done - took the amp in for servicing (nothing wrong could be found) although interestingly enough, it didn't click for days after it came back.... - amp has been completely blown out with a compressor - replaced spreaker wire with new wire - removed ground loop isolater Today, the amp has been clicking and turning off like crazy, even going silent without clicking...To make matters worse, the remote and buttons became intermittanly disabled - in other words, I could not adjust volume, change inputs or anything ????? I have just now disconnected the right speaker (with left disconnected there was immediate clicking) and there is no clicking for an hour now...amp controls are working fine... So what to do now ? these speakers are maybe 5 years old, I have treated them well... Perhaps it is an interference problem - I guess i could try moving the left speaker to see if the clicking can be reproduced on the right side ??.. Could it be Impedance ? don't think because all of a sudden now there is an impedance problem ? any suggestions ? If the speaker is the cause - is there anything I can do or is it junk ? Could it be electrical interference ? - I have a ton of wires in behind thanks It sounds like there is a relay switch on the outputs of the amp. This is to protect both your amp and your speakers. Sometimes speakers can be damaged in such a way to make them much lower in impedance. I once had a tweeter that got so hot it melted the insulation on the coil and shorted. It did not burn to an open circuit. It shorted. This would draw way too much current from your amp and make it turn off. This could be your problem. James. ) |
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Click Click Click help please...
Rabid man wrote:
Onkyo tx-sv373 receiver, paradigm monitor 3 speakers and sub System worked perfectly for 2+ years used with my Sound card it started clicking and going silent about 2 months ago... what i have done - took the amp in for servicing (nothing wrong could be found) although interestingly enough, it didn't click for days after it came back.... - amp has been completely blown out with a compressor - replaced spreaker wire with new wire - removed ground loop isolater Today, the amp has been clicking and turning off like crazy, even going silent without clicking...To make matters worse, the remote and buttons became intermittanly disabled - in other words, I could not adjust volume, change inputs or anything ????? I have just now disconnected the right speaker (with left disconnected there was immediate clicking) and there is no clicking for an hour now...amp controls are working fine... So what to do now ? these speakers are maybe 5 years old, I have treated them well... Perhaps it is an interference problem - I guess i could try moving the left speaker to see if the clicking can be reproduced on the right side ??.. Could it be Impedance ? don't think because all of a sudden now there is an impedance problem ? any suggestions ? If the speaker is the cause - is there anything I can do or is it junk ? Could it be electrical interference ? - I have a ton of wires in behind thanks This is a known problem. There is a portion of the regulated power supply circuit which runs hot and eventually one to maybe three foil runs crack and need to be bridged. Sometimes a resistor is bad also, ( 12 ohms IIRC) and sometimes the damage is so bad there is literally a hole burned in the board. Since it is an older, lower-mid price surround model, without built-in digital decoding for newer formats, replacement is probably a more logical alternative to a repair which will cost over 100.00. Newer Onkyo's are pretty good, also Denon and Yamaha are recommended. Check the remote of the new receiver you are looking at. How much you like the remote may determine how much you enjoy the receiver. Mark Z. |
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Click Click Click help please...
Thanks for the posts....
my solo speaker started clicking today.... A few questions come to mind...first, are my speakers likely to be damaged now ? Secondly, is there an easy way to test them with an ohm meter ? If I gave the certified tech guy all the symptoms, and he troubleshoots it and says nothing is wrong, I guess either the speakers are toast or the tech is incompetent ??? I guess ultimately I should just buy a new amp....but want to make sure the speakers aren't gone as well..... Guess I will start searching for a new amp, any recommendations on a mid level unit that offers good value ? maybe in the $500 - $700 range... thanks gusy Mark D. Zacharias wrote: Rabid man wrote: Onkyo tx-sv373 receiver, paradigm monitor 3 speakers and sub System worked perfectly for 2+ years used with my Sound card it started clicking and going silent about 2 months ago... what i have done - took the amp in for servicing (nothing wrong could be found) although interestingly enough, it didn't click for days after it came back.... - amp has been completely blown out with a compressor - replaced spreaker wire with new wire - removed ground loop isolater Today, the amp has been clicking and turning off like crazy, even going silent without clicking...To make matters worse, the remote and buttons became intermittanly disabled - in other words, I could not adjust volume, change inputs or anything ????? I have just now disconnected the right speaker (with left disconnected there was immediate clicking) and there is no clicking for an hour now...amp controls are working fine... So what to do now ? these speakers are maybe 5 years old, I have treated them well... Perhaps it is an interference problem - I guess i could try moving the left speaker to see if the clicking can be reproduced on the right side ??.. Could it be Impedance ? don't think because all of a sudden now there is an impedance problem ? any suggestions ? If the speaker is the cause - is there anything I can do or is it junk ? Could it be electrical interference ? - I have a ton of wires in behind thanks This is a known problem. There is a portion of the regulated power supply circuit which runs hot and eventually one to maybe three foil runs crack and need to be bridged. Sometimes a resistor is bad also, ( 12 ohms IIRC) and sometimes the damage is so bad there is literally a hole burned in the board. Since it is an older, lower-mid price surround model, without built-in digital decoding for newer formats, replacement is probably a more logical alternative to a repair which will cost over 100.00. Newer Onkyo's are pretty good, also Denon and Yamaha are recommended. Check the remote of the new receiver you are looking at. How much you like the remote may determine how much you enjoy the receiver. Mark Z. |
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Click Click Click help please...
Rabid man wrote:
Thanks for the posts.... my solo speaker started clicking today.... A few questions come to mind...first, are my speakers likely to be damaged now ? Secondly, is there an easy way to test them with an ohm meter ? If I gave the certified tech guy all the symptoms, and he troubleshoots it and says nothing is wrong, I guess either the speakers are toast or the tech is incompetent ??? I guess ultimately I should just buy a new amp....but want to make sure the speakers aren't gone as well..... Guess I will start searching for a new amp, any recommendations on a mid level unit that offers good value ? maybe in the $500 - $700 range... thanks gusy Mark D. Zacharias wrote: Rabid man wrote: Onkyo tx-sv373 receiver, paradigm monitor 3 speakers and sub System worked perfectly for 2+ years used with my Sound card it started clicking and going silent about 2 months ago... what i have done - took the amp in for servicing (nothing wrong could be found) although interestingly enough, it didn't click for days after it came back.... - amp has been completely blown out with a compressor - replaced spreaker wire with new wire - removed ground loop isolater Today, the amp has been clicking and turning off like crazy, even going silent without clicking...To make matters worse, the remote and buttons became intermittanly disabled - in other words, I could not adjust volume, change inputs or anything ????? I have just now disconnected the right speaker (with left disconnected there was immediate clicking) and there is no clicking for an hour now...amp controls are working fine... So what to do now ? these speakers are maybe 5 years old, I have treated them well... Perhaps it is an interference problem - I guess i could try moving the left speaker to see if the clicking can be reproduced on the right side ??.. Could it be Impedance ? don't think because all of a sudden now there is an impedance problem ? any suggestions ? If the speaker is the cause - is there anything I can do or is it junk ? Could it be electrical interference ? - I have a ton of wires in behind thanks This is a known problem. There is a portion of the regulated power supply circuit which runs hot and eventually one to maybe three foil runs crack and need to be bridged. Sometimes a resistor is bad also, ( 12 ohms IIRC) and sometimes the damage is so bad there is literally a hole burned in the board. Since it is an older, lower-mid price surround model, without built-in digital decoding for newer formats, replacement is probably a more logical alternative to a repair which will cost over 100.00. Newer Onkyo's are pretty good, also Denon and Yamaha are recommended. Check the remote of the new receiver you are looking at. How much you like the remote may determine how much you enjoy the receiver. Mark Z. Tell the tech to look under the big flat cable that goes from the main board to the front circuit board. There's a baked area sort of hiding under the cable. On the underneath side of the main board in this area is where the problem is. The guy may or may not be incompetent, but more likely just not familiar with this model or symptom. Unfortunately it is true there are still some not-so-great tech types out there who are willing to take your money but perhaps not provide an acceptable level of service for a given product. I sense that this is less the case now than years ago, however. Hard times have fallen on the repair industry. The schlock shops and rip-offs have mostly fallen off to the side; the shops that remain are mostly pretty good, all things considered. Mark Z. |
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Click Click Click help please...
Rabid man wrote:
Thanks for the posts.... my solo speaker started clicking today.... A few questions come to mind...first, are my speakers likely to be damaged now ? Secondly, is there an easy way to test them with an ohm meter ? If I gave the certified tech guy all the symptoms, and he troubleshoots it and says nothing is wrong, I guess either the speakers are toast or the tech is incompetent ??? I guess ultimately I should just buy a new amp....but want to make sure the speakers aren't gone as well..... Guess I will start searching for a new amp, any recommendations on a mid level unit that offers good value ? maybe in the $500 - $700 range... thanks gusy Sorry - missed that part. I'm a Yamaha guy. I don't know your specific needs, but I'm sure there's a Yamaha model that would have the features you need. A couple things. 1. The HTR series is electrically just as good, and in some cases virtually the same inside, as the RX series. In other words, you can buy at Best Buy etc, and not just the specialty stores, with no drop-off in the quality of the receiver. Having said that, a specialty shop should have techs on staff - finding good warranty service if you need it might be an issue with the HTR stuff - BB will just send it off. 2. Even though I recommend Yamaha, there's other good receivers out there. Some you might like better. Denon and Onkyo are good, Sony also. Denon support not so good, however. If you will use the remote a lot, spend some time at the store learning the remote. The ergonomics and ease of use, intuitiveness, etc of the remote might be the deciding factor for you. The could be a big deal. I mean if you hate the remote, you'll enjoy the receiver a lot less. Yamaha remotes are a bit cheesy, so are Onkyo's. Denon remotes seem better, at least the ones I've seen. Also check out the onscreen setups etc and try to get a sense of whether you'll be able to use them without too much trouble. Be prepared to spend some time learning how to use the thing. 3. We all like a better price, but if you don't buy from an authorized dealer you may well have NO WARRANTY. Some manufacturers are stickier about this than others. Pioneer and Sony not so bad. Denon, Marantz, Onkyo, Yamaha all state that the dealer must be authorized or no warranty. So CHECK FIRST to avoid problems later. Mark Z. |
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