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Vivek
 
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Hi,

I have a 2 speaker setup for my home theater (was on a tight budget on
speakers) setup with a Kenwood receiver
http://www.kenwoodaudio.com/australi...l=KRF-V4080D-S

I am feeding the audio from the DVD player using coaxial.

Current situation: DVD player downmixes the 5.1 movie soundtrack to lt/rt
and receiver amplifies it.

I want receiver to downmix the 5.1 to 2 channel. Sorry new to home theater
things, but I also do not know if it is a receivers job anyway to downmix it
to 2 channel. I have read the manual and there are options to set only 2
speakers but when done they (L&R) do not contain Surround and center channel
mixed up.

Anybody using this receiver can guide me if this is possible?

thanks a million in advance


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I want receiver to downmix the 5.1 to 2 channel. Sorry new to home
theater things, but I also do not know if it is a receivers job
anyway to downmix it to 2 channel.


It is.

I have read the manual and there are options to set only 2
speakers but when done they (L&R) do not contain Surround and center
channel mixed up.


It should work. If you configure the speaker setup the right way (center:
none, surround: none) it will do the job. I have had some weird experiences
when using DSP's other than the normal DD 5.1 (center channel not sent to
L/R), but in DD 5.1 mode, it works fine.

Check if your DVD player can downmix to stereo instead of LtRt (my cheap
Sony player does) and use an analogue connection.



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Thanks! Yes the DVD player can do stereo (Lt/Rt; Stereo; VSurr), but heard
somewhere to make the receiver downmix it instead of DVD player.

Didn't knew turning off one of the channels (surroff; centroff) makes it
mix with other working channels. :-O

One more thing, the DTS soundtrack sound much better than the DD (the dialog
audibility is better), is there any setting that needs my attention of the
DD to work better. I tried tunring up the center channel a few decibels but
thta didn't help.

Thanks again!!!

"Gert Wiersema" wrote in message
. ..
|
| I want receiver to downmix the 5.1 to 2 channel. Sorry new to home
| theater things, but I also do not know if it is a receivers job
| anyway to downmix it to 2 channel.
|
| It is.
|
| I have read the manual and there are options to set only 2
| speakers but when done they (L&R) do not contain Surround and center
| channel mixed up.
|
| It should work. If you configure the speaker setup the right way (center:
| none, surround: none) it will do the job. I have had some weird
experiences
| when using DSP's other than the normal DD 5.1 (center channel not sent to
| L/R), but in DD 5.1 mode, it works fine.
|
| Check if your DVD player can downmix to stereo instead of LtRt (my cheap
| Sony player does) and use an analogue connection.
|
|
|


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Thanks! Yes the DVD player can do stereo (Lt/Rt; Stereo; VSurr), but
heard somewhere to make the receiver downmix it instead of DVD player.


The DVD player setting of the downmix mode only applies to the analog l/r
output. The DD/DTS digital optical/coaxial output will always be the
unaltered datastream of the DVD. The DVD player can only downmix all formats
to 2 channel formats for it's analogue outputs (in case of an analogue
processor/amplifier/receiver which does only stereo or Pro Logic and no
5.1).

If you have a 5.1 (or 6.1/7.1) receiver, you should use the settings in the
receiver.

Didn't knew turning off one of the channels (surroff; centroff) makes
it mix with other working channels. :-O


It might be a weird thing to do: turning channels OFF, but in this case you
MUST in order to actually HEAR them


One more thing, the DTS soundtrack sound much better than the DD (the
dialog audibility is better), is there any setting that needs my
attention of the DD to work better. I tried tunring up the center channel
a few decibels but thta didn't help.


There are issues like re-equalisation which are needed for theatre playback,
but don't apply to living room playback. You never know what kind of mix you
have on a DVD. It might be a cheap altered theatre mix. In some cases the DD
and DTS mix are different. I prefer DTS, because it uses a higher bit rate
(less loss , but that is not a guarantee of better quality...

One thing that does apply usually, is the audio level on DTS tracks which
are usually higher (so that requires a lower playback volume on your amp).
This should not be the case, but unfortunately is is. Things will get better
in the future as master engineers will understand that home playback is
different from theatre playback.

Thanks again!!!


Yo,
Gert


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Bingo! Worked out the things with your help.

"Gert Wiersema" wrote in message
.. .
|
| Thanks! Yes the DVD player can do stereo (Lt/Rt; Stereo; VSurr), but
| heard somewhere to make the receiver downmix it instead of DVD player.
|
| The DVD player setting of the downmix mode only applies to the analog l/r
| output. The DD/DTS digital optical/coaxial output will always be the
| unaltered datastream of the DVD. The DVD player can only downmix all
formats
| to 2 channel formats for it's analogue outputs (in case of an analogue
| processor/amplifier/receiver which does only stereo or Pro Logic and no
| 5.1).
|
| If you have a 5.1 (or 6.1/7.1) receiver, you should use the settings in
the
| receiver.
|
| Didn't knew turning off one of the channels (surroff; centroff) makes
| it mix with other working channels. :-O
|
| It might be a weird thing to do: turning channels OFF, but in this case
you
| MUST in order to actually HEAR them
|
|
| One more thing, the DTS soundtrack sound much better than the DD (the
| dialog audibility is better), is there any setting that needs my
| attention of the DD to work better. I tried tunring up the center
channel
| a few decibels but thta didn't help.
|
| There are issues like re-equalisation which are needed for theatre
playback,
| but don't apply to living room playback. You never know what kind of mix
you
| have on a DVD. It might be a cheap altered theatre mix. In some cases the
DD
| and DTS mix are different. I prefer DTS, because it uses a higher bit rate
| (less loss , but that is not a guarantee of better quality...
|
| One thing that does apply usually, is the audio level on DTS tracks which
| are usually higher (so that requires a lower playback volume on your amp).
| This should not be the case, but unfortunately is is. Things will get
better
| in the future as master engineers will understand that home playback is
| different from theatre playback.
|
| Thanks again!!!
|
| Yo,
| Gert
|
|


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