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why is SM57 useful?
The frequency response of the SM57 has a few humps and goes only to 16KHz.
Why is it popular as instrument mic (some say it is good with guitar amp)? Does it have some advantages over condenser mics which usually have flatter response and wider spectrum? I already have a few SM58. Is there an alternative grill I can use with the SM58 to turn it into a SM 57? |
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In article mhU_g.553$%T3.551@trndny03, peter wrote:
The frequency response of the SM57 has a few humps and goes only to 16KHz. Why is it popular as instrument mic (some say it is good with guitar amp)? Does it have some advantages over condenser mics which usually have flatter response and wider spectrum? Because of the way it sounds. I already have a few SM58. Is there an alternative grill I can use with the SM58 to turn it into a SM 57? You can take the foam out of the ball. That brings back much of the top end that the SM58 removes. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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peter wrote: The frequency response of the SM57 has a few humps and goes only to 16KHz. Why is it popular as instrument mic (some say it is good with guitar amp)? Does it have some advantages over condenser mics which usually have flatter response and wider spectrum? I already have a few SM58. Is there an alternative grill I can use with the SM58 to turn it into a SM 57? I HAVE AN SM 57!!!!!!!!!! IT'S USEFUL FOR BUTT-STUFFING ON **EITHER** END BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT DAMN SM-58 BALL IN THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SPEAKING OF MY BUTT: WANNA WATCH ME POO?!?!?!?!?!?! |
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 00:46:10 GMT, "peter" wrote:
The frequency response of the SM57 has a few humps and goes only to 16KHz. Why is it popular as instrument mic (some say it is good with guitar amp)? Does it have some advantages over condenser mics which usually have flatter response and wider spectrum? for some things you want those humps and don't need to go over 16k? Julian |
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for some things you want those humps and don't need to go over 16k? Julian WHATCHOO GONNA DO WITH ALL THAT JUNK INSIDE YOUR TRUNK?!?!?! ALL I KNOW IS THAT I'M GONNA USE MY HUMPS TO POO **EVERYWHERE** SPLOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSH LOL LOL LOL EW GROSS TOWEL PLZ |
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peter wrote:
The frequency response of the SM57 has a few humps and goes only to 16KHz. Why is it popular as instrument mic (some say it is good with guitar amp)? Does it have some advantages over condenser mics which usually have flatter response and wider spectrum? I already have a few SM58. Is there an alternative grill I can use with the SM58 to turn it into a SM 57? Because its a great work horse mic. You can throw it in front of virtually anything and it will give you a sound good enough to get the job done. It will also handle high SPL's which is why you see it used so much on snare drums. True, its not the highest quality mic in the world, but in terms of quality for price, its a very good choice. Chris W -- The voice of ignorance speaks loud and long, But the words of the wise are quiet and few. --- |
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nwrddc01.gnilink.net!cyclone2.gnilink.net!cyclone1 .gnilink.net!gnilink.net!news.glorb.com!postnews.g oogle.com!k70g2000cwa.googlegrou ps.com!not-for-mail From: "Gutter Butt" Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro Subject: why is SM57 useful? Date: 23 Oct 2006 02:05:28 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 16 Message-ID: .com References: mhU_g.553$%T3.551@trndny03 NNTP-Posting-Host: 172.145.65.242 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1161594333 24212 127.0.0.1 (23 Oct 2006 09:05:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:05:33 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050915 Firefox/1.0.7,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: Injection-Info: k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com; posting-host=172.145.65.242; posting-account=p1zd2g0AAADVVTKfORZ47-BltnrFCYqi Xref: news.verizon.net rec.audio.pro:670648 X-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 05:05:17 EDT (nwrddc01.gnilink.net) WHATCHOO GONNA DO WITH ALL THAT JUNK INSIDE YOUR TRUNK?!?!?! ALL I KNOW IS THAT I'M GONNA USE MY HUMPS TO POO **EVERYWHERE** SPLOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSH LOL LOL LOL EW GROSS TOWEL PLZ |
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peter wrote: The frequency response of the SM57 has a few humps and goes only to 16KHz. Why is it popular as instrument mic (some say it is good with guitar amp)? Because the humps in the frequency response seem to be well matched to the instruments that it works well on. There's practically nothing above 5 kHz coming out of a guitar amplifier so extended high frequency response doesn't really matter for this application. Does it have some advantages over condenser mics which usually have flatter response and wider spectrum? Yes. It exaggerates certain frequencies that are sometimes useful (and sometimes not - it depends on many things, including what you need from the recorded sound), and it doesn't pick up stray lows and highs that you'd probably want to filter out anyway. I already have a few SM58. Is there an alternative grill I can use with the SM58 to turn it into a SM 57? Not really, but you could try it without the grill. It sounds a little different than with it. But an SM57 isn't THAT much better on a guitar amp than an SM58. If you got it, use it. |
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news:mhU_g.553$%T3.551@trndny03 The frequency response of the SM57 has a few humps and goes only to 16KHz. Certainly going to only 16 KHz (generous evaluation I'd say!) isn't a serious problem if you are recording voice and most music. If you want a real education, take a recording of music and brickwall filter it (some DAW software can do this easily) at decreasing frequencies until you hear a difference at all. Then continue down until it looses "air", then looses "sheen", and finally loses any sense of fidelity. You might be amazed how low those frequencies are. Why is it popular as instrument mic (some say it is good with guitar amp)? 1. Cheap 2. Durable 3. Known quantity 4. Doesn't require phantom power which may be an issue in a few relatively rare cases. Does it have some advantages over condenser mics which usually have flatter response and wider spectrum? 1. Cheap 2. Durable 3. Known quantity 4. Doesn't require phantom power which may be an issue in a few relatively rare cases. ;-) I already have a few SM58. Is there an alternative grill I can use with the SM58 to turn it into a SM 57? Just take the SM58 ball off, if all you want to do is experiment. You'll end up with something that is a little nicer than a SM57 because the SM57 grille isn't perfectly acoustically transparent, either. |
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David Morgan (MAMS) wrote: Path: nwrddc01.gnilink.net!cyclone2.gnilink.net!cyclone1 .gnilink.net!gnilink.net!news.glorb.com!postnews.g oogle.com!k70g2000cwa.googlegrou ps.com!not-for-mail From: "Gutter Butt" Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro Subject: why is SM57 useful? Date: 23 Oct 2006 02:05:28 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 16 Message-ID: .com References: mhU_g.553$%T3.551@trndny03 NNTP-Posting-Host: 172.145.65.242 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1161594333 24212 127.0.0.1 (23 Oct 2006 09:05:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:05:33 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050915 Firefox/1.0.7,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: Injection-Info: k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com; posting-host=172.145.65.242; posting-account=p1zd2g0AAADVVTKfORZ47-BltnrFCYqi Xref: news.verizon.net rec.audio.pro:670648 X-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 05:05:17 EDT (nwrddc01.gnilink.net) WHATCHOO GONNA DO WITH ALL THAT JUNK INSIDE YOUR TRUNK?!?!?! ALL I KNOW IS THAT I'M GONNA USE MY HUMPS TO POO **EVERYWHERE** SPLOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSH LOL LOL LOL EW GROSS TOWEL PLZ I DARE YOU TO REPORT ME!!!!!!!!! BUK BUK BWAAAAAAAAAAK YOU'RE TOO CHICKEN!!!!!!!!! CHICKEN CHICKEN CHICKEN BUK BUK BUK BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK BUK BUK!!!! YOU DON'T HAVE THE GUTS TO REPORT ME!!!!!!!! BUK BUK BUK BWAAAAAAAAAAAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGN I'M FILLED WITH POO (NOT THE CHICKEN KIND, THE PEOPLE KIND) UGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGN |
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peter wrote: The frequency response of the SM57 has a few humps and goes only to 16KHz. Why is it popular as instrument mic (some say it is good with guitar amp)? Does it have some advantages over condenser mics which usually have flatter response and wider spectrum? I already have a few SM58. Is there an alternative grill I can use with the SM58 to turn it into a SM 57? In addition to what the others have said, the bass proximity effect being so pronounced makes it useful in tight miking situations where you want to thicken the sound without EQ. It is also more comfortable than most condensers in extremely high SPL environments. Snare, 4X12 bottoms etc. |
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I can't believe it's 12 posts long and no one has used the word hammer.
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On Oct 23, 9:26 pm, wrote: I can't believe it's 12 posts long and no one has used the word hammer. Umm...I'm afraid you might be confusing it with the EV 635A... |
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wrote: I can't believe it's 12 posts long and no one has used the word hammer. No, that's what the EV 664 is for. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Scott Dorsey wrote: In article . com, wrote: I can't believe it's 12 posts long and no one has used the word hammer. No, that's what the EV 664 is for. I didn't mean that's all it's good for. I was refering to the notion that if you can't find a hammer you can always grab a 57. An then put it back on the stand and use it. |
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peter wrote:
The frequency response of the SM57 has a few humps and goes only to 16KHz. Why is it popular as instrument mic SM 57s actually have a pretty linear response an inch or two away from the source. They are also amazingly good at ducking unwanted room ambiance. I frequently set one up as a "listen" mike in the studio. It has always been amazing how often it sounds better subjectively than expensive, more accurate mikes. Unfortunately I've never been able to completely predict when this was going to be the case so keeping an open mind is important when using a 57. -- Bob Olhsson Audio Mastery, Nashville TN Mastering, Audio for Picture, Mix Evaluation and Quality Control Over 40 years making people sound better than they ever imagined! 615.385.8051 http://www.hyperback.com |
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Scott Dorsey wrote: In article . com, wrote: I can't believe it's 12 posts long and no one has used the word hammer. No, that's what the EV 664 is for. I didn't mean that's all it's good for. I was refering to the notion that if you can't find a hammer you can always grab a 57. An then put it back on the stand and use it. No, the EV 664 makes a much better hammer. It's a lot heavier. Plus, the EV guys used to do advertisements in the 1960s with people using the 664 to hammer nails in. You'll still find people who call the 644 the "Buchanan Hammer." --scott DO NOT TRY THIS WITH AN EV 666 PLEASE.... -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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peter wrote: The frequency response of the SM57 has a few humps and goes only to 16KHz. Why is it popular as instrument mic (some say it is good with guitar amp)? Maybe because guitar amps don't produce anything remotely near 16kHz ? Does it have some advantages over condenser mics which usually have flatter response and wider spectrum? I already have a few SM58. Is there an alternative grill I can use with the SM58 to turn it into a SM 57? No but you can easily dig a hole to bury them in. Graham |
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Bob Olhsson wrote:
peter wrote: The frequency response of the SM57 has a few humps and goes only to 16KHz. Why is it popular as instrument mic SM 57s actually have a pretty linear response an inch or two away from the source. They are also amazingly good at ducking unwanted room ambiance. I frequently set one up as a "listen" mike in the studio. It has always been amazing how often it sounds better subjectively than expensive, more accurate mikes. Unfortunately I've never been able to completely predict when this was going to be the case so keeping an open mind is important when using a 57. Not to mention that an sm57 sounds really good with a good preamp. Some other mikes are not so fortunate. |
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Mike Rivers wrote:
peter wrote: The frequency response of the SM57 has a few humps and goes only to 16KHz. Why is it popular as instrument mic (some say it is good with guitar amp)? Because the humps in the frequency response seem to be well matched to the instruments that it works well on. There's practically nothing above 5 kHz coming out of a guitar amplifier so extended high frequency response doesn't really matter for this application. Does it have some advantages over condenser mics which usually have flatter response and wider spectrum? Yes. It exaggerates certain frequencies that are sometimes useful (and sometimes not - it depends on many things, including what you need from the recorded sound), and it doesn't pick up stray lows and highs that you'd probably want to filter out anyway. I already have a few SM58. Is there an alternative grill I can use with the SM58 to turn it into a SM 57? Not really, but you could try it without the grill. It sounds a little different than with it. But an SM57 isn't THAT much better on a guitar amp than an SM58. If you got it, use it. It's a shame Shure never made a screw-on cover that fit the threads of a '58 that essentially would turn it into a '57. But I guess they would sell fewer '57s! But this doesn't stop someone else from doing it. For recording guys, this wouldn't be very useful as we don't tend to use '58s. But for PA situations, this would be very useful since they tend to use both types of mic all over the place. In fact, the for folk festival I do every summer, we have about 10x57s and 10x58s plus about dozen other mics---so we often are using '58s when we run out of '57s. Rob R. |
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:56:04 -0700, rt55 wrote:
On Oct 23, 9:26 pm, wrote: I can't believe it's 12 posts long and no one has used the word hammer. Umm...I'm afraid you might be confusing it with the EV 635A... The 635 is more of a tack hammer than a serious carpentry tool. It's durable enough, but it doesn't have enough mass to bang a ten penny nail into a 4x4. |
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Scott Dorsey wrote:
--scott DO NOT TRY THIS WITH AN EV 666 PLEASE.... 'cos that would be the devil's hammer ? geoff |
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On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:07:28 GMT, Romeo Rondeau
wrote: Not to mention that an sm57 sounds really good with a good preamp. Some other mikes are not so fortunate. Can you name some examples? |
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Willie K. Yee, MD wrote:
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:07:28 GMT, Romeo Rondeau wrote: Not to mention that an sm57 sounds really good with a good preamp. Some other mikes are not so fortunate. Can you name some examples? The EV ND series? Cheap AKG condensers? an ATM25? |
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Romeo Rondeau wrote:
Willie K. Yee, MD wrote: On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:07:28 GMT, Romeo Rondeau wrote: Not to mention that an sm57 sounds really good with a good preamp. Some other mikes are not so fortunate. Can you name some examples? The EV ND series? Cheap AKG condensers? an ATM25? Really? The E/V N/D 257B is quite useful for recording. Rob |
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Rob Reedijk wrote:
Romeo Rondeau wrote: Willie K. Yee, MD wrote: On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:07:28 GMT, Romeo Rondeau wrote: Not to mention that an sm57 sounds really good with a good preamp. Some other mikes are not so fortunate. Can you name some examples? The EV ND series? Cheap AKG condensers? an ATM25? Really? The E/V N/D 257B is quite useful for recording. Rob Argue with yourself, Rob. |
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On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 23:22:04 +0000, Rob Reedijk wrote:
Romeo Rondeau wrote: Willie K. Yee, MD wrote: On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:07:28 GMT, Romeo Rondeau wrote: Not to mention that an sm57 sounds really good with a good preamp. Some other mikes are not so fortunate. Can you name some examples? The EV ND series? Cheap AKG condensers? an ATM25? Really? The E/V N/D 257B is quite useful for recording. There's no accounting for taste, but I'm also fond of the 257, as well as the 757 and 408/468. And if the SM57 hadn't already been invented and wasn't cheaper, the ATM25 might well qualify as the coolest cheap mic not made by EV. |
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Romeo Rondeau wrote:
Rob Reedijk wrote: Romeo Rondeau wrote: Willie K. Yee, MD wrote: On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:07:28 GMT, Romeo Rondeau wrote: Not to mention that an sm57 sounds really good with a good preamp. Some other mikes are not so fortunate. Can you name some examples? The EV ND series? Cheap AKG condensers? an ATM25? Really? The E/V N/D 257B is quite useful for recording. Rob Argue with yourself, Rob. What do you mean by that? I don't understand your statement. Rob R. |
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Rob Reedijk wrote:
Romeo Rondeau wrote: Rob Reedijk wrote: Romeo Rondeau wrote: Willie K. Yee, MD wrote: On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:07:28 GMT, Romeo Rondeau wrote: Not to mention that an sm57 sounds really good with a good preamp. Some other mikes are not so fortunate. Can you name some examples? The EV ND series? Cheap AKG condensers? an ATM25? Really? The E/V N/D 257B is quite useful for recording. Rob Argue with yourself, Rob. What do you mean by that? I don't understand your statement. Rob R. I made a statement, plain and simple. If you're looking for an argument, look somwhere else. |
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Agent 86 wrote:
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 23:22:04 +0000, Rob Reedijk wrote: Romeo Rondeau wrote: Willie K. Yee, MD wrote: On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:07:28 GMT, Romeo Rondeau wrote: Not to mention that an sm57 sounds really good with a good preamp. Some other mikes are not so fortunate. Can you name some examples? The EV ND series? Cheap AKG condensers? an ATM25? Really? The E/V N/D 257B is quite useful for recording. There's no accounting for taste, but I'm also fond of the 257, as well as the 757 and 408/468. And if the SM57 hadn't already been invented and wasn't cheaper, the ATM25 might well qualify as the coolest cheap mic not made by EV. I would disagree on the ATM25, it basically sounds the same no matter what you put it through, within reason of course. I didn't say the ND's weren't good mikes, they just don't scale as well as a 57 in my opinion. |
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I made a statement, plain and simple. If you're looking for an argument, look somwhere else. THAT'S THE SPIRIT!!!!!!!!! WHO THE HELL WANTS TO ARGUE ON USENET, ANYWAY?!?!?! UGGGGGGGGGN I'M POOPING COME ON WATCH IT SLIDE OUT UGGGGGGGGGGGGGGN FROZEN YOGURT MACHINE UGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGN PLOP FIZZ I'VE GOT ALKA-SELTZER POO TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Gutter Butt wrote: I made a statement, plain and simple. If you're looking for an argument, look somwhere else. THAT'S THE SPIRIT!!!!!!!!! WHO THE HELL WANTS TO ARGUE ON USENET, ANYWAY?!?!?! UGGGGGGGGGN I'M POOPING COME ON WATCH IT SLIDE OUT UGGGGGGGGGGGGGGN FROZEN YOGURT MACHINE UGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGN PLOP FIZZ I'VE GOT ALKA-SELTZER POO TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OK.... you win ....you finally got me to do projectile coffee expulsion from my nose AND Piehole! Kevin T |
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Romeo Rondeau wrote:
Rob Reedijk wrote: Romeo Rondeau wrote: Rob Reedijk wrote: Romeo Rondeau wrote: Willie K. Yee, MD wrote: On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:07:28 GMT, Romeo Rondeau wrote: Not to mention that an sm57 sounds really good with a good preamp. Some other mikes are not so fortunate. Can you name some examples? The EV ND series? Cheap AKG condensers? an ATM25? Really? The E/V N/D 257B is quite useful for recording. Rob Argue with yourself, Rob. What do you mean by that? I don't understand your statement. Rob R. I made a statement, plain and simple. If you're looking for an argument, look somwhere else. Argument? What is this a Monty Python sketch? You've got to be kidding. Rob R. |
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Agent 86 wrote:
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 23:22:04 +0000, Rob Reedijk wrote: Romeo Rondeau wrote: Willie K. Yee, MD wrote: On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:07:28 GMT, Romeo Rondeau wrote: Not to mention that an sm57 sounds really good with a good preamp. Some other mikes are not so fortunate. Can you name some examples? The EV ND series? Cheap AKG condensers? an ATM25? Really? The E/V N/D 257B is quite useful for recording. There's no accounting for taste, but I'm also fond of the 257, as well as the 757 and 408/468. And if the SM57 hadn't already been invented and wasn't cheaper, the ATM25 might well qualify as the coolest cheap mic not made by EV. Ditto on the 408 (forgot about that one!). Quite useful on percussion. Maybe not my first choice, but quite workable. And the swivel head thing makes it very convenient. Too may of the great sounding dynamics can be difficult to place in tight quarters. Why DID they stop making the MD409?... Rob R. |
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Rob Reedijk wrote:
Romeo Rondeau wrote: Rob Reedijk wrote: Romeo Rondeau wrote: Rob Reedijk wrote: Romeo Rondeau wrote: Willie K. Yee, MD wrote: On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:07:28 GMT, Romeo Rondeau wrote: Not to mention that an sm57 sounds really good with a good preamp. Some other mikes are not so fortunate. Can you name some examples? The EV ND series? Cheap AKG condensers? an ATM25? Really? The E/V N/D 257B is quite useful for recording. Rob Argue with yourself, Rob. What do you mean by that? I don't understand your statement. Rob R. I made a statement, plain and simple. If you're looking for an argument, look somwhere else. Argument? What is this a Monty Python sketch? You've got to be kidding. Rob R. This parrot is dead, sir! :-) |
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Mick wrote:
In article , says... Agent 86 wrote: On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 23:22:04 +0000, Rob Reedijk wrote: Romeo Rondeau wrote: Willie K. Yee, MD wrote: On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:07:28 GMT, Romeo Rondeau wrote: Not to mention that an sm57 sounds really good with a good preamp. Some other mikes are not so fortunate. Can you name some examples? The EV ND series? Cheap AKG condensers? an ATM25? Really? The E/V N/D 257B is quite useful for recording. There's no accounting for taste, but I'm also fond of the 257, as well as the 757 and 408/468. And if the SM57 hadn't already been invented and wasn't cheaper, the ATM25 might well qualify as the coolest cheap mic not made by EV. I would disagree on the ATM25, it basically sounds the same no matter what you put it through, within reason of course. I didn't say the ND's weren't good mikes, they just don't scale as well as a 57 in my opinion. Well, the ATM25 has been a great mic for me. For bass drum, I like it better than the AKG football, and better than most mics for live work. It also works great on some floor toms. I'll take the football over the ATM25 any day, although the D112 is also a one trick pony as far as mikes are concerned. Both mikes don't have much use other than bass guitar and kick drum an an occasional floor tom (even then they can get quite boomy) |
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