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Neumann TLM103 internal differences
I've got 2 Neumann TLM103 mics, both bought seperately, 2nd hand. When I
recieved each one, I took the top cover off to inspect the insides (I'm nosey like that). The 1st one, which has serial number 00677, looks pretty much identical to the picture here - http://www.coutant.org/diafram.jpg The 2nd one, which has serial number 15525, & generally looks newer, Has a rather crude looking piece of curved nylon/plastic screwed to the top of capsule housing(?). The screw holes are present in the one without the plastic. Can anyone shed any light on what this is all about? Am I missing part of one mic (unlikely lokking at the picture above), did Neumann change the design at some point, or has somebody added this piece for some bizzarre reason?? Both mics seem to sound similar, BTW. I'll take a picture if anyone would like to see the item in question, any help much appreciated. |
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Hmmm... Not sure exactly what you're describing without actually seeing
it - but maybe this will help. I know that Rode mics ship with what basically amounts to a foam earplug jammed inside the windscreen - to prevent the capsule from moving too much during shipping (it took me a while to actually crack open my owner's manual to figure that one out!) .... Maybe the neweer mic has something similar? But I agree with Fred's post - ask the professionals - and send them pics if you can. (and be sure to let us know what the hell it is, too!) |
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On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 08:29:14 -0400, StudioDude wrote
(in article .com): Hmmm... Not sure exactly what you're describing without actually seeing it - but maybe this will help. I know that Rode mics ship with what basically amounts to a foam earplug jammed inside the windscreen - to prevent the capsule from moving too much during shipping (it took me a while to actually crack open my owner's manual to figure that one out!) ... Maybe the neweer mic has something similar? But I agree with Fred's post - ask the professionals - and send them pics if you can. (and be sure to let us know what the hell it is, too!) foam thingees like that are also to damp headgrille vibrations. Ty Ford -- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric stuff are at www.tyford.com |
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StudioDude wrote:
Hmmm... Not sure exactly what you're describing without actually seeing it - but maybe this will help. I know that Rode mics ship with what basically amounts to a foam earplug jammed inside the windscreen - to prevent the capsule from moving too much during shipping (it took me a while to actually crack open my owner's manual to figure that one out!) ... Maybe the neweer mic has something similar? But I agree with Fred's post - ask the professionals - and send them pics if you can. (and be sure to let us know what the hell it is, too!) BLUE Lollipops come with those three brass screws to hold the internal capsule in place during shipping. What's not clear to me is should I put those back in when not in use and remove them when using it? I do lots of location recording, so I take my mics places. I have asked BLUE this question but no answer. Does anyone know? I am guesing that as the capsules are probably internally shockmounted, the screws hold them in place against large G forces like UPS delivery man hijinks. But what about just putting them in a case, driving somewhere with them and taking them out and setting them up? Do I need to secure them for that? Anyone? BLUE? Skipper? Ari? Rob R. |
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At the risk of looking a complete fool, I can tell you I never removed
mine. I received no instruction to do so when I bought it, and it has worked beautifully from day one. If you hear from others that I definitely should have and it will sound much better without them I will definitely feel dumb, but as I was afraid that they held the capsule in place and I might screw up the tensioning by removing them I never did. On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 20:55:29 +0000 (UTC), Rob Reedijk wrote: StudioDude wrote: Hmmm... Not sure exactly what you're describing without actually seeing it - but maybe this will help. I know that Rode mics ship with what basically amounts to a foam earplug jammed inside the windscreen - to prevent the capsule from moving too much during shipping (it took me a while to actually crack open my owner's manual to figure that one out!) ... Maybe the neweer mic has something similar? But I agree with Fred's post - ask the professionals - and send them pics if you can. (and be sure to let us know what the hell it is, too!) BLUE Lollipops come with those three brass screws to hold the internal capsule in place during shipping. What's not clear to me is should I put those back in when not in use and remove them when using it? I do lots of location recording, so I take my mics places. I have asked BLUE this question but no answer. Does anyone know? I am guesing that as the capsules are probably internally shockmounted, the screws hold them in place against large G forces like UPS delivery man hijinks. But what about just putting them in a case, driving somewhere with them and taking them out and setting them up? Do I need to secure them for that? Anyone? BLUE? Skipper? Ari? Rob R. |
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Rob Reedijk wrote:
I just confirmed it. Both of mine had a little red tag attached to one of the screws which read, "Remove the three brass screws before use". Right. I just got this straight from Skipper: Hi Hank, The screws are for transporting the capsule only if needed. An example of this is sending the unit through the US mail, UPS etc. For all other purposes they should be left out of the assembly as it was designed this way in the first place. This is true on all Blue products. Kind Regards Skipper Skipper Wise President www.bluemic.com -- ha |
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I have a secret tip about the screws. It involves a green Sharpie.
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I have a secret tip about the screws. It involves a green Sharpie. Yeah, I heard about that. You have to put exactly the same amount on each screw or the capsule goes out of balance. But if you get it right it sounds amazing. -- ha |
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hank alrich wrote:
wrote: I have a secret tip about the screws. It involves a green Sharpie. Yeah, I heard about that. You have to put exactly the same amount on each screw or the capsule goes out of balance. But if you get it right it sounds amazing. I got a response from BLUE. The screws are only there for shipping. Keep them and use them only for that. Rob R. |
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Rob Reedijk wrote:
[to screw or not to screw] How can this be? Why would that affect its top end response? Screws in position MUST link housing metal resonances directly to the capsule, if not then I want to trade the laws of physics as I know them in for some that apply better. Kind regards Peter Larsen -- ******************************************* * My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk * ******************************************* |
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