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When ripping an MP3...looks way clipped?
So sometimes when I rip an mp3 from a commercial CD that I've bought.
I'll import into Nuendo or whatever & not do anything to it ... just look at it & there's nowhere to go...the region is flat on some and of course when I check the audio statistics peaks are at 0.00. What does this mean? That they've compressed the sh*t out of it. Just asking, it doesn't sound clipped but definitely looks it. some chick singer stuff at: http://home.comcast.net/~amostagain/sw_mix.mp3 http://home.comcast.net/~amostagain/sw_talk_mix.mp3 |
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When ripping an MP3...looks way clipped?
Mondoslug1 wrote:
So sometimes when I rip an mp3 from a commercial CD that I've bought. I'll import into Nuendo or whatever & not do anything to it ... just look at it & there's nowhere to go...the region is flat on some and of course when I check the audio statistics peaks are at 0.00. What does this mean? That they've compressed the sh*t out of it. Just asking, it doesn't sound clipped but definitely looks it. You need better monitors. That stuff is clipped. And clipping has become very common on commercial pop releases. On a good monitor system it _will_ sound clipped. I just got a folk music album from a friend that is slammed to the wall. Acoustic groups jamming along with the meters pegged. Someone should be shot. Big name mastering engineer who shall remain nameless. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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When ripping an MP3...looks way clipped?
Scott D. wrote:
Mondoslug1 wrote: So sometimes when I rip an mp3 from a commercial CD that I've bought. I'll import into Nuendo or whatever & not do anything to it ... just look at it & there's nowhere to go...the region is flat on some and of course when I check the audio statistics peaks are at 0.00. What does this mean? That they've compressed the sh*t out of it. Just asking, it doesn't sound clipped but definitely looks it. You need better monitors. Well this is very true. That stuff is clipped. And clipping has become very common on commercial pop releases. On a good monitor system it _will_ sound clipped. I guess so. I just got a folk music album from a friend that is slammed to the wall. Acoustic groups jamming along with the meters pegged. Guilty. Someone should be shot. Big name mastering engineer who shall remain nameless. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Some Chick singer mixes at: http://home.comcast.net/~amostagain/sw_trouble_mix.mp3 http://home.comcast.net/~amostagain/sw_talk_mix.mp3 http://home.comcast.net/~amostagain/sw_mix.mp3 |
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When ripping an MP3...looks way clipped?
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Mondoslug1 wrote: I just got a folk music album from a friend that is slammed to the wall. Acoustic groups jamming along with the meters pegged. Guilty. Are there still old-school folks out there who get their hands on digital gear but haven't been told there's no +3dB ? |
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When ripping an MP3...looks way clipped?
"Mondoslug1" wrote in message
... So sometimes when I rip an mp3 from a commercial CD that I've bought. I'll import into Nuendo or whatever & not do anything to it ... just look at it & there's nowhere to go...the region is flat on some and of course when I check the audio statistics peaks are at 0.00. What does this mean? That they've compressed the sh*t out of it. Just asking, it doesn't sound clipped but definitely looks it. I ripped the Sony "100 years of Pop" (or something like that) and that was VERY interesting to watch the levels increase over the years. By the time of the last song (that "Jiggy" song by Will Smith) the waveform (zoomed all the way out) was literally a solid rectangle. I thought something was wrong with the graphic at first. |
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When ripping an MP3...looks way clipped?
"james" wrote in message news:Gar8c.1587$Q45.1138@fed1read02... In article , Mondoslug1 wrote: I just got a folk music album from a friend that is slammed to the wall. Acoustic groups jamming along with the meters pegged. Guilty. Are there still old-school folks out there who get their hands on digital gear but haven't been told there's no +3dB ? Not a chance. ;-) -- David Morgan (MAMS) http://www.m-a-m-s.com http://www.artisan-recordingstudio.com |
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When ripping an MP3...looks way clipped?
Mondoslug1 wrote:
commercial CD... ...look at it & there's nowhere to go... they've compressed the sh*t out of it... sound clipped... definitely looks it. http://prorec.com/prorec/articles.ns...256C2E005DAF1C Sander |
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When ripping an MP3...looks way clipped?
We're all generally used to equating "clipping" to power amp clipping, which
sounds a whole lot worse than the precise clipping on a modern CD (due to overall feedback, "windup", etc). Plus, while some CDs are clipped badly, most use the much less audible "predictive limiting". Which all amounts to the clipping being a lot less audible than you'd expect. But it's usually still detectable if you listen closely with good monitors. Since you're ripping to MP3 anyway, you may be interested that there's usually an option to normalize the audio (to, say, 70% or so). If you do that, you may see the envelope (in Nuendo) pull right back to the 70% you set, or it might (often does for me) still peak up to near 100%. That's because MP3 isn't lossless, and can discard those elements that the encoder considers to be the least audible, which might include clipping events - yes, MP3 can (to a very limited extent) UNCLIP some audio. On 25 Mar 2004 00:16:22 GMT, aht (Mondoslug1) wrote: So sometimes when I rip an mp3 from a commercial CD that I've bought. I'll import into Nuendo or whatever & not do anything to it ... just look at it & there's nowhere to go...the region is flat on some and of course when I check the audio statistics peaks are at 0.00. What does this mean? That they've compressed the sh*t out of it. Just asking, it doesn't sound clipped but definitely looks it. some chick singer stuff at: http://home.comcast.net/~amostagain/sw_mix.mp3 http://home.comcast.net/~amostagain/sw_talk_mix.mp3 Tony (remove the "_" to reply by email) |
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When ripping an MP3...looks way clipped?
Sander wrote:
Mondoslug1 wrote: commercial CD... ...look at it & there's nowhere to go... they've compressed the sh*t out of it... sound clipped... definitely looks it. http://prorec.com/prorec/articles.ns...71AB86256C2E00 5DAF1C Sander Thanks, that was good reading. No, I couldn't finish the paragraph. Me at: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/andymostmusic.htm |
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When ripping an MP3...looks way clipped?
Tony Roe wrote:
We're all generally used to equating "clipping" to power amp clipping, which sounds a whole lot worse than the precise clipping on a modern CD (due to overall feedback, "windup", etc). Plus, while some CDs are clipped badly, most use the much less audible "predictive limiting". Which all amounts to the clipping being a lot less audible than you'd expect. But it's usually still detectable if you listen closely with good monitors. Since you're ripping to MP3 anyway, you may be interested that there's usually an option to normalize the audio (to, say, 70% or so). If you do that, you may see the envelope (in Nuendo) pull right back to the 70% you set, or it might (often does for me) still peak up to near 100%. That's because MP3 isn't lossless, and can discard those elements that the encoder considers to be the least audible, which might include clipping events - yes, MP3 can (to a very limited extent) UNCLIP some audio. On 25 Mar 2004 00:16:22 GMT, aht (Mondoslug1) wrote: So sometimes when I rip an mp3 from a commercial CD that I've bought. I'll import into Nuendo or whatever & not do anything to it ... just look at it & there's nowhere to go...the region is flat on some and of course when I check the audio statistics peaks are at 0.00. What does this mean? That they've compressed the sh*t out of it. Just asking, it doesn't sound clipped but definitely looks it. some chick singer stuff at: http://home.comcast.net/~amostagain/sw_mix.mp3 http://home.comcast.net/~amostagain/sw_talk_mix.mp3 Tony (remove the "_" to reply by email) Yeah, I just was comparing a few & some seemed beyond slammed though. Me at: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/andymostmusic.htm |
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