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I have had two conflicting opinions on this issue. My cellphone causes
feedback through my subwoofer. The phone is a hand held phone (not
installed in the vehicle).

My car audio dealership has never heard of this happening before. They
tested the truck with my cellphone and heard the feedback. They used two
other phones (different models than mine) and did not hear any feedback.
They tell me that it is a problem with my phone and that I should get it
checked before I start growing some sort of tumour.

On the other hand, the cell dealership says that it is a common problem and
that there is not much that can be done about it.

I realize that all phones emit EMR, but it is a little disconcerting to
hear it rattle my sub. Plus, it is inconvenient to have to turn the stereo
off each time I want to use my cell. Try answering the phone, fighting
with the kids, eating a Big Mac, plucking your nose hair, driving AND
turning the stereo off. It's getting a little dangerous.

I suspect the cell phone guys are correct, but a little reassurance by a
disinterested 3rd party would be nice. Also, any solutions to the feedback
problem would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
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"Neil" wrote in message
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I realize that all phones emit EMR, but it is a little disconcerting to
hear it rattle my sub. Plus, it is inconvenient to have to turn the

stereo
off each time I want to use my cell. Try answering the phone, fighting
with the kids, eating a Big Mac, plucking your nose hair, driving AND
turning the stereo off. It's getting a little dangerous.


How about this... don't talk on your phone while driving. It's safer for
everyone that way.


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In article R_Z3d.484733$gE.379391@pd7tw3no,
Neil wrote:


I realize that all phones emit EMR, but it is a little disconcerting to
hear it rattle my sub. Plus, it is inconvenient to have to turn the stereo
off each time I want to use my cell. Try answering the phone, fighting
with the kids, eating a Big Mac, plucking your nose hair, driving AND
turning the stereo off. It's getting a little dangerous.



Paying attention to the road should be a little higher on that list.

--
cyrus

*coughcasaucedoprodigynetcough*


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A friend of mine's cell phone also makes her computer speakers go nuts
whenever she recieves a call.

"Bruce Chang" wrote in message
. ..
I realize that all phones emit EMR, but it is a little disconcerting to
hear it rattle my sub. Plus, it is inconvenient to have to turn the

stereo
off each time I want to use my cell. Try answering the phone, fighting
with the kids, eating a Big Mac, plucking your nose hair, driving AND
turning the stereo off. It's getting a little dangerous.

I suspect the cell phone guys are correct, but a little reassurance by a
disinterested 3rd party would be nice. Also, any solutions to the

feedback
problem would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.


Why dont' you wire in a switch for the remote line for the sub amp? Or
maybe your gains are set improperly? I get a buzz through my computer
speakers when my phone is receiving a call, if that makes you feel better
about you not being the only one.

-Bruce




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"Bruce Chang" wrote in news:2P_3d.205
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I realize that all phones emit EMR, but it is a little disconcerting to
hear it rattle my sub. Plus, it is inconvenient to have to turn the

stereo
off each time I want to use my cell. Try answering the phone, fighting
with the kids, eating a Big Mac, plucking your nose hair, driving AND
turning the stereo off. It's getting a little dangerous.

I suspect the cell phone guys are correct, but a little reassurance by a
disinterested 3rd party would be nice. Also, any solutions to the

feedback
problem would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.


Why dont' you wire in a switch for the remote line for the sub amp? Or
maybe your gains are set improperly? I get a buzz through my computer
speakers when my phone is receiving a call, if that makes you feel better
about you not being the only one.

-Bruce



Thanks for the helpful response. Some people have no sense of humour.


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cyrus wrote in
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In article R_Z3d.484733$gE.379391@pd7tw3no,
Neil wrote:


I realize that all phones emit EMR, but it is a little disconcerting
to hear it rattle my sub. Plus, it is inconvenient to have to turn
the stereo off each time I want to use my cell. Try answering the
phone, fighting with the kids, eating a Big Mac, plucking your nose
hair, driving AND turning the stereo off. It's getting a little
dangerous.



Paying attention to the road should be a little higher on that list.



Maybe contraception should have been higher on your parents' list. Surely
even a duncical person like you can recognize sarcasm.
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"Neil" wrote in message
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"Bruce Chang" wrote in news:2P_3d.205
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I realize that all phones emit EMR, but it is a little disconcerting to
hear it rattle my sub. Plus, it is inconvenient to have to turn the

stereo
off each time I want to use my cell. Try answering the phone, fighting
with the kids, eating a Big Mac, plucking your nose hair, driving AND
turning the stereo off. It's getting a little dangerous.

I suspect the cell phone guys are correct, but a little reassurance by

a
disinterested 3rd party would be nice. Also, any solutions to the

feedback
problem would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.


Why dont' you wire in a switch for the remote line for the sub amp? Or
maybe your gains are set improperly? I get a buzz through my computer
speakers when my phone is receiving a call, if that makes you feel

better
about you not being the only one.

-Bruce



Thanks for the helpful response. Some people have no sense of humour.


I figured since your name isn't Vishnu, you had to be kidding. Though I
thought it'd be funny if you were posting for your wife. Plucking your nose
hair.. lol.


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In article Za04d.65567$%S.12443@pd7tw2no, Neil
wrote:

cyrus wrote in
:

In article R_Z3d.484733$gE.379391@pd7tw3no,
Neil wrote:


I realize that all phones emit EMR, but it is a little disconcerting
to hear it rattle my sub. Plus, it is inconvenient to have to turn
the stereo off each time I want to use my cell. Try answering the
phone, fighting with the kids, eating a Big Mac, plucking your nose
hair, driving AND turning the stereo off. It's getting a little
dangerous.



Paying attention to the road should be a little higher on that list.



Maybe contraception should have been higher on your parents' list. Surely
even a duncical person like you can recognize sarcasm.


The sexual habits of my parents or your supposed sarcasm have no place
here. And especially have nothing to do with your cell phone probs, big
macs or nose hairs.

If its only your phone that makes the noise in your subs, then your
phone is the problem smart guy.

--
cyrus

*coughcasaucedoprodigynetcough*


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cyrus wrote in
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In article Za04d.65567$%S.12443@pd7tw2no, Neil
wrote:

cyrus wrote in
:

In article R_Z3d.484733$gE.379391@pd7tw3no,
Neil wrote:


I realize that all phones emit EMR, but it is a little
disconcerting to hear it rattle my sub. Plus, it is inconvenient
to have to turn the stereo off each time I want to use my cell.
Try answering the phone, fighting with the kids, eating a Big Mac,
plucking your nose hair, driving AND turning the stereo off. It's
getting a little dangerous.



Paying attention to the road should be a little higher on that
list.



Maybe contraception should have been higher on your parents' list.
Surely even a duncical person like you can recognize sarcasm.


The sexual habits of my parents or your supposed sarcasm have no place
here. And especially have nothing to do with your cell phone probs,
big macs or nose hairs.

If its only your phone that makes the noise in your subs, then your
phone is the problem smart guy.


Man, you're a bundle of laughs. Sorry if I upset you.
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Common problem if it's a Nextel.

"Neil" wrote in message
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I have had two conflicting opinions on this issue. My cellphone causes
feedback through my subwoofer. The phone is a hand held phone (not
installed in the vehicle).

My car audio dealership has never heard of this happening before. They
tested the truck with my cellphone and heard the feedback. They used two
other phones (different models than mine) and did not hear any feedback.
They tell me that it is a problem with my phone and that I should get it
checked before I start growing some sort of tumour.

On the other hand, the cell dealership says that it is a common problem
and
that there is not much that can be done about it.

I realize that all phones emit EMR, but it is a little disconcerting to
hear it rattle my sub. Plus, it is inconvenient to have to turn the
stereo
off each time I want to use my cell. Try answering the phone, fighting
with the kids, eating a Big Mac, plucking your nose hair, driving AND
turning the stereo off. It's getting a little dangerous.

I suspect the cell phone guys are correct, but a little reassurance by a
disinterested 3rd party would be nice. Also, any solutions to the
feedback
problem would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.





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"Neil" wrote in message
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I suspect the cell phone guys are correct, but a little reassurance by a
disinterested 3rd party would be nice. Also, any solutions to the

feedback
problem would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.


My phone does it in the car, in the PA system if it's to close, through my
guitar amp (sounds really odd when playing with the Phaser pedal). Basically
if I get too close to electronic equipment, especially cheap equipment, then
it will do it.

All of these devices have to accept interference, harmful or not, so I
wouldn't worry about it. I know several people who have the same problem.

Les


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"Les" wrote in
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"Neil" wrote in message
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I suspect the cell phone guys are correct, but a little reassurance
by a disinterested 3rd party would be nice. Also, any solutions to
the

feedback
problem would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.


My phone does it in the car, in the PA system if it's to close,
through my guitar amp (sounds really odd when playing with the Phaser
pedal). Basically if I get too close to electronic equipment,
especially cheap equipment, then it will do it.

All of these devices have to accept interference, harmful or not, so I
wouldn't worry about it. I know several people who have the same
problem.

Les




Thanks, I had a feeling that was the case, but it is reassuring to know my
phone's no more dangerous than average (unless it is used while driving)
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In article c%04d.484944$gE.472142@pd7tw3no,
Neil wrote:

cyrus wrote in
:

In article Za04d.65567$%S.12443@pd7tw2no, Neil
wrote:

cyrus wrote in
:

In article R_Z3d.484733$gE.379391@pd7tw3no,
Neil wrote:


I realize that all phones emit EMR, but it is a little
disconcerting to hear it rattle my sub. Plus, it is inconvenient
to have to turn the stereo off each time I want to use my cell.
Try answering the phone, fighting with the kids, eating a Big Mac,
plucking your nose hair, driving AND turning the stereo off. It's
getting a little dangerous.



Paying attention to the road should be a little higher on that
list.



Maybe contraception should have been higher on your parents' list.
Surely even a duncical person like you can recognize sarcasm.


The sexual habits of my parents or your supposed sarcasm have no place
here. And especially have nothing to do with your cell phone probs,
big macs or nose hairs.

If its only your phone that makes the noise in your subs, then your
phone is the problem smart guy.


Man, you're a bundle of laughs. Sorry if I upset you.


Thank you and no problem.

--
cyrus

*coughcasaucedoprodigynetcough*


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"Chris Guynn" wrote in message
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"Neil" wrote in message
news:R_Z3d.484733$gE.379391@pd7tw3no...

I realize that all phones emit EMR, but it is a little disconcerting to
hear it rattle my sub. Plus, it is inconvenient to have to turn the

stereo
off each time I want to use my cell. Try answering the phone, fighting
with the kids, eating a Big Mac, plucking your nose hair, driving AND
turning the stereo off. It's getting a little dangerous.


How about this... don't talk on your phone while driving. It's safer for
everyone that way.



How bout this geneious (Chris) The phone emits signal when it rings (can't
help than now can he) or when it updates status or handshakes with a new
cell, Hmmmmmm.

Chad


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"Neil" wrote in message
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"Bruce Chang" wrote in news:2P_3d.205
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I realize that all phones emit EMR, but it is a little disconcerting to
hear it rattle my sub. Plus, it is inconvenient to have to turn the

stereo
off each time I want to use my cell. Try answering the phone, fighting
with the kids, eating a Big Mac, plucking your nose hair, driving AND
turning the stereo off. It's getting a little dangerous.

I suspect the cell phone guys are correct, but a little reassurance by a
disinterested 3rd party would be nice. Also, any solutions to the

feedback
problem would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.


Why dont' you wire in a switch for the remote line for the sub amp? Or
maybe your gains are set improperly? I get a buzz through my computer
speakers when my phone is receiving a call, if that makes you feel better
about you not being the only one.

-Bruce



Thanks for the helpful response. Some people have no sense of humour.


Neil,

Do you set the phone in the middle of the front seat next to you? Where
does your signal wire run? Mine ran down the transmission hump and yes it
caused an awful racket. Relocating the line level signal to a door jamb
solved the problem.

I am a live sound engineer and back in the day I used to sit my old analog
phone on the master section of the mixing console, good clock and I knew
when someone called, no big deal. The big deal came when I got a GMRS phone
and played the same trick. You think that your computer or car system makes
and awful racket? You should hear that through 100Kw of EAW/Crown.
Needless to say The phone no longer resides on the master section!!!!

Chad




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"Chad Wahls" wrote in message
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"Chris Guynn" wrote in message
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"Neil" wrote in message
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I realize that all phones emit EMR, but it is a little disconcerting to
hear it rattle my sub. Plus, it is inconvenient to have to turn the

stereo
off each time I want to use my cell. Try answering the phone, fighting
with the kids, eating a Big Mac, plucking your nose hair, driving AND
turning the stereo off. It's getting a little dangerous.


How about this... don't talk on your phone while driving. It's safer

for
everyone that way.



How bout this geneious (Chris) The phone emits signal when it rings

(can't
help than now can he)


Sure he can. Put th phone in vibrate mode and it doesn't ring. Oh, and
thanks for calling me a geneious [sic], but I don't really deserve it.

or when it updates status or handshakes with a new
cell, Hmmmmmm.


Neither of which would last long enough to worry about.


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"Chris Guynn" wrote in message
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"Chad Wahls" wrote in message
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"Chris Guynn" wrote in message
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"Neil" wrote in message
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I realize that all phones emit EMR, but it is a little disconcerting
to
hear it rattle my sub. Plus, it is inconvenient to have to turn the
stereo
off each time I want to use my cell. Try answering the phone,
fighting
with the kids, eating a Big Mac, plucking your nose hair, driving AND
turning the stereo off. It's getting a little dangerous.

How about this... don't talk on your phone while driving. It's safer

for
everyone that way.



How bout this geneious (Chris) The phone emits signal when it rings

(can't
help than now can he)


Sure he can. Put th phone in vibrate mode and it doesn't ring. Oh, and
thanks for calling me a geneious [sic], but I don't really deserve it.


Uh, it's the RF that's causing the noise in the system not the ringer, it
will still transmit RF back to the repeater and cause the ticking / honking
sound if the ringer is off.

or when it updates status or handshakes with a new
cell, Hmmmmmm.


Neither of which would last long enough to worry about.

About 3 seconds per handshake, and if the RFI is severe enough can actually
be quite loud and disturbing. Just depends on the RF rejection of the
system.

Chad


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Neil wrote:

I have had two conflicting opinions on this issue. My cellphone causes
feedback through my subwoofer. The phone is a hand held phone (not
installed in the vehicle).

my phone used to cause said interference on the pa at the cafe/bar i can
usually be found kicking around in. i haven't had any lumps big enough
to warrant surgery yet.
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"Chad Wahls" wrote in
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"Neil" wrote in message
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"Bruce Chang" wrote in news:2P_3d.205
:

I realize that all phones emit EMR, but it is a little
disconcerting to hear it rattle my sub. Plus, it is inconvenient
to have to turn the
stereo
off each time I want to use my cell. Try answering the phone,
fighting with the kids, eating a Big Mac, plucking your nose hair,
driving AND turning the stereo off. It's getting a little
dangerous.

I suspect the cell phone guys are correct, but a little reassurance
by a disinterested 3rd party would be nice. Also, any solutions to
the
feedback
problem would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Why dont' you wire in a switch for the remote line for the sub amp?
Or maybe your gains are set improperly? I get a buzz through my
computer speakers when my phone is receiving a call, if that makes
you feel better about you not being the only one.

-Bruce



Thanks for the helpful response. Some people have no sense of
humour.


Neil,

Do you set the phone in the middle of the front seat next to you?
Where does your signal wire run? Mine ran down the transmission hump
and yes it caused an awful racket. Relocating the line level signal
to a door jamb solved the problem.

I am a live sound engineer and back in the day I used to sit my old
analog phone on the master section of the mixing console, good clock
and I knew when someone called, no big deal. The big deal came when I
got a GMRS phone and played the same trick. You think that your
computer or car system makes and awful racket? You should hear that
through 100Kw of EAW/Crown. Needless to say The phone no longer
resides on the master section!!!!

Chad





Now that would be something to hear! Actually, I do keep the phone in
the center console and the signal wire runs up the middle to. I will
try to reroute it, 'cause that makes sense.

Thanks for the advice.

Neil

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