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On Dec 29, 12:11*am, jwvm wrote:
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/sto...th_of_high_fid...


If you're never exposed to high fidelity, you don't realize what
you're missing. My 15 year old niece is perfectly happy listening
through cheap ear buds that came with her mp3 player. She even likes
her 3 inch $10 stereo speakers that her player can plug into. But she
truly loves music. I can't stand the music she loves, but I can tell
that she needs her music more than I need mine.
Before high fidelity, music was being enjoyed as well. We make do with
what's available. But once you've had a taste, you don't want to have
to settle for anything less.

Jeff
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On Dec 29, 12:11 am, jwvm wrote:
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/sto...th_of_high_fid...


If you're never exposed to high fidelity, you don't realize what
you're missing. My 15 year old niece is perfectly happy listening
through cheap ear buds that came with her mp3 player. She even likes
her 3 inch $10 stereo speakers that her player can plug into. But she
truly loves music. I can't stand the music she loves, but I can tell
that she needs her music more than I need mine.
Before high fidelity, music was being enjoyed as well. We make do with
what's available. But once you've had a taste, you don't want to have
to settle for anything less.


Teach her quality!

Jeff



Kind regards

Peter Larsen


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On Dec 29, 5:06*am, "Peter Larsen" wrote:
straightnut wrote:
On Dec 29, 12:11 am, jwvm wrote:
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/sto...th_of_high_fid...

If you're never exposed to high fidelity, you don't realize what
you're missing. My 15 year old niece is perfectly happy listening
through cheap ear buds that came with her mp3 player. She even likes
her 3 inch $10 stereo speakers that her player can plug into. But she
truly loves music. I can't stand the music she loves, but I can tell
that she needs her music more than I need mine.
Before high fidelity, music was being enjoyed as well. We make do with
what's available. But once you've had a taste, you don't want to have
to settle for anything less.


Teach her quality!


She'd run out of the room if I turned my cd's on her. I'm her favorite
uncle. I couldn't do that to her. Though we do agree on Nirvana.

Jeff

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Teach her quality!


She'd run out of the room if I turned my cd's on her. I'm her favorite
uncle. I couldn't do that to her. Though we do agree on Nirvana.


You could start with a compact better quality playback system ... quality is
a life strategy and not always costly.

Jeff



Kind regards

Peter Larsen




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She'd run out of the room if I turned my cd's on her. I'm her favorite
uncle. I couldn't do that to her. Though we do agree on Nirvana.


So play her music through your system for her.
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On Dec 30, 8:17*am, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
straightnut wrote:

She'd run out of the room if I turned my cd's on her. I'm her favorite
uncle. I couldn't do that to her. Though we do agree on Nirvana.


So play her music through your system for her.


Then I'd be running out of the room.
Jeff
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straightnut wrote:

On Dec 29, 12:11 am, jwvm wrote:
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/sto...th_of_high_fid...


If you're never exposed to high fidelity, you don't realize what
you're missing. My 15 year old niece is perfectly happy listening
through cheap ear buds that came with her mp3 player. She even likes
her 3 inch $10 stereo speakers that her player can plug into. But she
truly loves music. I can't stand the music she loves, but I can tell
that she needs her music more than I need mine.
Before high fidelity, music was being enjoyed as well. We make do with
what's available. But once you've had a taste, you don't want to have
to settle for anything less.

Jeff


Not all that long before high fidelity music was only being enjoyed
in live performance. ;-)

Then too, seems much of live performance has also been corrupted
by volume wars. ;-} ;-( :-{

Later...

Ron Capik
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On Dec 29, 9:13*am, Ron Capik wrote:
straightnut wrote:
On Dec 29, 12:11 am, jwvm wrote:
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/sto...th_of_high_fid....


If you're never exposed to high fidelity, you don't realize what
you're missing. My 15 year old niece is perfectly happy listening
through cheap ear buds that came with her mp3 player. She even likes
her 3 inch $10 stereo speakers that her player can plug into. But she
truly loves music. I can't stand the music she loves, but I can tell
that she needs her music more than I need mine.
Before high fidelity, music was being enjoyed as well. We make do with
what's available. But once you've had a taste, you don't want to have
to settle for anything less.


Jeff


Not all that long before high fidelity music was only being enjoyed
in live performance. * ;-)


I forgot about live performance. Can't get more high fidelity than
that. I bet many young people don't realize that recording can
actually approach it. Though they may not care all that much. As long
as they like the music, it wouldn't really matter. It's like there's a
restoration program in our brains to make up for what's lacking so we
can enjoy it.

Jeff
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On Dec 30, 12:20*am, straightnut wrote:

It's like there's a
restoration program in our brains to make up for what's lacking so we
can enjoy it.



Not to mention the fact that the cassettes we used to cherish didn't
sound better than today's mp3s, but we'll put the former above the
latter anyway : )


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rboy wrote:
On Dec 30, 12:20=A0am, straightnut wrote:

It's like there's a
restoration program in our brains to make up for what's lacking so we
can enjoy it.


Not to mention the fact that the cassettes we used to cherish didn't
sound better than today's mp3s, but we'll put the former above the
latter anyway : )


Cherish? When cassettes were a popular release format, everybody _hated_
them. Getting decent duplication consistency was a nightmare too.

Much as I hate MP3s, I am very glad that I will never have to deal with
another bin loop machine again as long as I live.

At least the MP3 was actually designed for music, which is more than you
can say for the compact cassette.
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straightnut wrote in
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I forgot about live performance. Can't get more high fidelity than
that. I bet many young people don't realize that recording can
actually approach it. Though they may not care all that much. As long
as they like the music, it wouldn't really matter. It's like there's a
restoration program in our brains to make up for what's lacking so we
can enjoy it.


Some of those who have been to concerts have still never heard live
performance. Putting a live signal through a compression masher is just as
easy as a recorded source. If all you hear is the PA system, you're no
better off.
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Is this a gender thing? My wife couldn't care less about my excellent
surround sound stereo I hooked up to the DVD player. That amazes me.
How you can watch Amadeus through the TV alone once you've heard it
through a decent sound system.

Not unusual to hear a woman turn up her nose at surround sound. Is this
biological? Cultural? Coincidence? Are there men out there who don't
care about high fidelity?

straightnut wrote:
On Dec 29, 12:11 am, jwvm wrote:

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/sto...th_of_high_fid...



If you're never exposed to high fidelity, you don't realize what
you're missing. My 15 year old niece is perfectly happy listening
through cheap ear buds that came with her mp3 player. She even likes
her 3 inch $10 stereo speakers that her player can plug into. But she
truly loves music. I can't stand the music she loves, but I can tell
that she needs her music more than I need mine.
Before high fidelity, music was being enjoyed as well. We make do with
what's available. But once you've had a taste, you don't want to have
to settle for anything less.

Jeff

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Bill wrote:
Is this a gender thing? My wife couldn't care less about my excellent
surround sound stereo I hooked up to the DVD player. That amazes me.
How you can watch Amadeus through the TV alone once you've heard it
through a decent sound system.

Not unusual to hear a woman turn up her nose at surround sound. Is this
biological? Cultural? Coincidence? Are there men out there who don't
care about high fidelity?


I fear that surround sound is most often the opposite of high fidelity.

And you'd have thought we'd have learned from the whole quad fiasco too.
--scott
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On Dec 31 2007, 3:49 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
And you'd have thought we'd have learned from the whole quad fiasco too.
--scott



oh do you think that Electric Ladyland will be released on
surround???



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And you'd have thought we'd have learned from the whole quad fiasco too.


oh do you think that Electric Ladyland will be released on
surround???


I am sure it will be, but I bet only in new mixes that bear no resemblance
to the original quad mixes.

The big labels have very few people left who remember quad, and the folks
that DO remember it only remember it as a disaster and want nothing to do
with the old quad mixes. Consequently a large part of our history is
inacessible.
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