[George M. Middius]

Iain Churches said:

http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...ProdnBatch.jpg

Whatever they are, whoever they belong to, wherever they are.

My workshop.

Don't those open boxes get dusty?

BTW, no amount of proof will ever get Krooger to admit that is your
workshop. Lying about everything is so deeply ingrained into Mr. ****'s
wetware that he is incapable of grasping even the meaning of "truth".

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Ask him , just how many valve amps he's produced over the
amount of ONE

Hello Bassett. Nice to see you teamed up with Arny:-)

http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...ProdnBatch.jpg

Whatever they are, whoever they belong to, wherever they are.

My workshop. Pics of which were posted on RAT (in a thread to which
you posted) Come and take a look for yourself -any time.

Coordinated lies are still lies. ;-)

Pics of your amp projects would be of great interest.

Check Behringer's web site for their A500. I can't afford the time to
personally build a common kind of wheel.

Note what seem to be power transistor cases on the middle deck of the
closest chassis. ;-)

Blind as well as stupid? :-))

At worst, victimized by a poor quality jpg.

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Iain Churches said:

http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...ProdnBatch.jpg

Whatever they are, whoever they belong to, wherever they are.

My workshop.

Don't those open boxes get dusty?

The dust contributes to the retro sound:-) They are all tested
and await documentation in a couple of days they will have their
top panels fitted, and be ready for delivery.

You can see a ready one at:

http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches/Pics/02A.jpg

The separate psu has two DC outputs, and can also power
a tube vinyl stage, designed and built in the same format.


BTW, no amount of proof will ever get Krooger to admit that is your
workshop. Lying about everything is so deeply ingrained into Mr. ****'s
wetware that he is incapable of grasping even the meaning of "truth".


I know that George. He strikes me as a sad
old fellow. I actually feel rather sorry for him.

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Ask him , just how many valve amps he's produced over the
amount of ONE

Hello Bassett. Nice to see you teamed up with Arny:-)

http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...ProdnBatch.jpg

Whatever they are, whoever they belong to, wherever they are.

My workshop. Pics of which were posted on RAT (in a thread to which
you posted) Come and take a look for yourself -any time.

Coordinated lies are still lies. ;-)

Come and take a look. The offer still stands.

Pics of your amp projects would be of great interest.

Check Behringer's web site for their A500. I can't afford the time to
personally build a common kind of wheel.

So are saying you designed and built the Behringer A500? LOL

That's the unit which according to the local agent is not worthwhile
to repair. They put them in the bin and give the client a new one!


Note what seem to be power transistor cases on the middle deck of the
closest chassis. ;-)

Blind as well as stupid? :-))

At worst, victimized by a poor quality jpg.

You are indeed quite mad. It's a B9A tube socket.
Look along at the fourth unit, you will see it has the tubes fitted.

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Seems like you've done my work for me, Bassett.


You could answer Bassett' question by forwarding the
long list of recordings and catalogue numbers I listed for
you when you were arm in arm with Pinkie. It shut you up,
and will probaby shut Bassett up also.

No completely solo efforts. You know, you arranged for the artists,
obtained the venue at your own expense, personally owned every piece of
equipment, did all the setup, recording, editing, production yourself.

Apples-to-apples or zilch.

But you are not offering apples. You are offering rotten apples.
And by the barrel load too, it seems.

I refer you back to my early posts, on how *proper* recordings
are made - certainly not in the way that you are making them!
Can't you hear that they are horrendous? Perhaps you cannot.
Maybe that is what is wrong!

Cut your production by 90%. You need be well-versed in the
field in which you are working, be it Baroque, classical, pop,
jazz or whatever. You need to know the repertoire. You need
to pay attention to detail. In your case, where you cannot afford
the services of a professional producer, you need to be constantly
thinking not only about the technical but also the musical aspects
of the performance.

If you want to record choirs, and it seems that you do, take
the time to listen to some proper choir recordings with good
performers (King's College, Cambridge, on Decca, is one of the
finest in the world, recorded in an excellent acoustic)
Listen intently, follow the score. Learn.

You are doing your church a great disservice by passing off
such shoddy work. Shame on you! If, on the day of Judgement
God turns out to have perfect pitch, you and your band of
tambourine bashers will be in real trouble:-)

Take much more care, with infinitely more forward planning, for
each project. Have higher standards. Listen to other people's
work. Keep in touch with reality. Forget your "Been there, done
that" You may have been there, but you did nothing at all of any
merit.


Iain

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Recording, like any other profession is not something one
picks up. It requires study, and a great deal of practice.

Been there, done that.

There you go again:-)

You need to work under a master craftsman. You need to study
music theory, look at orchestral scores, and know the classical
repertoire well.

Iain, here's a news flash for you that you seem to badly need. Not
everybody who records music, records classical music, or orchestras.

Indeed. But the above still applies, just as in the same way that
not all pianists play classical music. But you will find, that most
of the best jazz players for example have a strong classical
technique. Listen to Bach. Was he not the King of Jazz?
I worked a couple of times with the American clarinet legend
Benny Goodman. He used to warm up on "The Forty Eight"

You're living in the past Iain. Benny Goodman has been dead for over 20
years.

And Bach died in 1750. Does that detract from his greatness?
I worked with BG when I was a very young man. It was an
unforgettable experience.

You have a Bachelor's n'est-pas? In this part of the
world they have not been awarded for many many years.

Iain, so what?

It's about the equivalent of the Swedish secondary school
leavers certificate for students going on to Poly.

Nonsense.

True, sorry to say. I doubt that you could pass the
Swedish sec school leavers exam. Your English is
not good enough:-)

Iain, You're talking trash again. Hourly rates billed, and annual taxable
income are two vastly different things. Most of my professional life, my
time was billed by my employer at $160 or more, even back in the 1980s. In
contrast my annual income barely got into the 6 figures.

So have you always been employed by someone else?
They are skimming the fruits of your labours.

In the case of a transcription engineer working on a
consultancy basis, he is his own employer and so the
total invoice is paid to the company of which he is a
shareholder.


But, wait a minute, I recall not to long ago a claim by you,
in some strange twisted logic, that you had earned enough money
for your church to warrant the title "professional recording
engineer". You don't meet the criterion in any sense.

You're talking trash again, Iain. I never said any such thing. You can try
to google up your lost reputation for truthfulness at your earliest
convenience.

I won't need to do that. It caused great amusement at the time.
Someone will remember, and send it to me by e-mail., that's for sure.

Iain, it is obvious from your many posts attacking me that I manage to
obtain considerable amounts of your valuable time. ;-)'

Usually when the DAW is uploading or downloading. So it's not
my time (work it out:-)

Given your outdated, narrow views
and history of endless bad faith, I hope to keep it that way in the
interest of minimizing the ignorant spew that foist off on Usenet.

I was sent some mp3 clips of a choir which you have
recorded. Quite dreadful!

When you've heard them live to compare, be sure to comment again.

I pray to God I shall be spared from such an experience.
Give me the wonderful music of the Russian Orthodox any day.

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Seems like you've done my work for me, Bassett.


You could answer Bassett' question by forwarding the
long list of recordings and catalogue numbers I listed for
you when you were arm in arm with Pinkie. It shut you up,
and will probaby shut Bassett up also.

No completely solo efforts. You know, you arranged for the artists,
obtained the venue at your own expense, personally owned every piece of
equipment, did all the setup, recording, editing, production yourself.

Apples-to-apples or zilch.

But you are not offering apples. You are offering rotten apples.
And by the barrel load too, it seems.

snip remaining similarly irrelevant posturing

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One hears frequently of people who have "upgraded" (their term)

Yes, their term only.

from an SS to a tube system. One never hears about anyone going
the other way.

Nah nobody ever upgraded from valve to solid state in the sixties and
seventies did they!!!!

Iain, clearly lives in an alternative universe, doesn't he?

Once again, comprehension let's you down badly, Arny.
I am referring to current trends in purchasing.

Hi Arny.

You've missed the point again. The past trend in purchasing was to scrap
tubes for solid state. That took tubed audio gear from total dominance
down to a tiny niche. That tiny niche of remaining tubed equipment is so
miniscule that it could double, triple, probably even grow by 10 times,
and still have no discernable impact on the sales or usage of
similarly-functioned SS gear.

Now you are back to lowest common denominators
again Arny. Is that all you understand? What interests
me here is not mass sales. The number of suits sold by
Saville Row tailors is miniscule compared to those sold
by your cheap and cheerful American mass-retail outlets.
In the same way the sale of Bentleys might be small in
comparison with Toyota or Nissan, but the people who
own a Bentley, just like the people who own a bespoke
tube amp, would not change it for the world. The same
applies to hand made furniture, or small volume clock
and watch production. I for one am happy that there is still
some demand for craftsmanship in the world.

Iain

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Recording, like any other profession is not something one
picks up. It requires study, and a great deal of practice.

Been there, done that.

There you go again:-)

You need to work under a master craftsman. You need to study
music theory, look at orchestral scores, and know the classical
repertoire well.

Iain, here's a news flash for you that you seem to badly need. Not
everybody who records music, records classical music, or orchestras.

Indeed. But the above still applies, just as in the same way that
not all pianists play classical music. But you will find, that most
of the best jazz players for example have a strong classical
technique. Listen to Bach. Was he not the King of Jazz?
I worked a couple of times with the American clarinet legend
Benny Goodman. He used to warm up on "The Forty Eight"

You're living in the past Iain. Benny Goodman has been dead for over 20
years.

And Bach died in 1750. Does that detract from his greatness?
I worked with BG when I was a very young man. It was an
unforgettable experience.

Very nice but relevant to life in 2007 how?

You have a Bachelor's n'est-pas? In this part of the
world they have not been awarded for many many years.

Iain, so what?

It's about the equivalent of the Swedish secondary school
leavers certificate for students going on to Poly.

Nonsense.

True, sorry to say.

No, said by someone who is incurably sorry.

I doubt that you could pass the
Swedish sec school leavers exam. Your English is
not good enough:-)

So you say, Iain. But according to you tubes are poised to make a comeback
in the audio world. How relevant is that?

Iain, You're talking trash again. Hourly rates billed, and annual taxable
income are two vastly different things. Most of my professional life, my
time was billed by my employer at $160 or more, even back in the 1980s.
In
contrast my annual income barely got into the 6 figures.

So have you always been employed by someone else?

Most of my life.

They are skimming the fruits of your labours.

As did your employers Iain, presuming that you were once far more relevant
and productive.

In the case of a transcription engineer working on a
consultancy basis, he is his own employer and so the
total invoice is paid to the company of which he is a
shareholder.

Obviously you've never run a consulting business, Iain. There's this little
thing called "overhead".

But, wait a minute, I recall not to long ago a claim by you,
in some strange twisted logic, that you had earned enough money
for your church to warrant the title "professional recording
engineer". You don't meet the criterion in any sense.

You're talking trash again, Iain. I never said any such thing. You can
try
to google up your lost reputation for truthfulness at your earliest
convenience.

I won't need to do that. It caused great amusement at the time.
Someone will remember, and send it to me by e-mail., that's for sure.

Interesting that you believe everything that anybody emails to you, Iain.

Iain, it is obvious from your many posts attacking me that I manage to
obtain considerable amounts of your valuable time. ;-)'

Usually when the DAW is uploading or downloading. So it's not
my time (work it out:-)

I always find something worthwhile to mulitask at such times.

Given your outdated, narrow views
and history of endless bad faith, I hope to keep it that way in the
interest of minimizing the ignorant spew that foist off on Usenet.

I was sent some mp3 clips of a choir which you have
recorded. Quite dreadful!

When you've heard them live to compare, be sure to comment again.

I pray to God I shall be spared from such an experience.
Give me the wonderful music of the Russian Orthodox any day.

Whatever that means. Let me guess - that passes for a joke in Finland?

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One hears frequently of people who have "upgraded" (their term)

Yes, their term only.

from an SS to a tube system. One never hears about anyone going
the other way.

Nah nobody ever upgraded from valve to solid state in the sixties and
seventies did they!!!!

Iain, clearly lives in an alternative universe, doesn't he?

Once again, comprehension let's you down badly, Arny.
I am referring to current trends in purchasing.

Hi Arny.

You've missed the point again. The past trend in purchasing was to scrap
tubes for solid state. That took tubed audio gear from total dominance
down to a tiny niche. That tiny niche of remaining tubed equipment is so
miniscule that it could double, triple, probably even grow by 10 times,
and still have no discernable impact on the sales or usage of
similarly-functioned SS gear.

Now you are back to lowest common denominators
again Arny.

Who says its low?

Is that all you understand?

Yawn.

What interests me here is not mass sales.

Obviously, neither does sound quality interest you.

The number of suits sold by
Saville Row tailors is miniscule compared to those sold
by your cheap and cheerful American mass-retail outlets.

Irrelevant comparison because a custom-tailored suit does actually fit
better.

In the same way the sale of Bentleys might be small in
comparison with Toyota or Nissan, but the people who
own a Bentley,

Major justification: status symbol

just like the people who own a bespoke
tube amp, would not change it for the world.

Major justification: status symbol

The same applies to hand made furniture,

Actually interesting when unique pieces are involved.

or small volume clock and watch production.

Major justification: status symbol

I for one am happy that there is still
some demand for craftsmanship in the world.

I hate to see good workmanship wasted on whimsy and weak egos badly in need
of tangible support.

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Seems like you've done my work for me, Bassett.


You could answer Bassett' question by forwarding the
long list of recordings and catalogue numbers I listed for
you when you were arm in arm with Pinkie. It shut you up,
and will probaby shut Bassett up also.

No completely solo efforts. You know, you arranged for the artists,
obtained the venue at your own expense, personally owned every piece of
equipment, did all the setup, recording, editing, production yourself.

Apples-to-apples or zilch.

But you are not offering apples. You are offering rotten apples.
And by the barrel load too, it seems.

snip remaining similarly irrelevant posturing
Most of which came from a recording arts textbook
You have no chance of improving if you will not learn.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Sep 12, 10:03 am, "Arny Krueger" wrote:

Your problem now, is that you are so strongly motivated by anger and hate
that you actually swallowed those forged MP3 files whole, and bragged about
it here.

Of course Iain, your congenital mental problems with analyzing potentially
faulty real-world evidence have been already proven by the other technical
bilge rats that you've swallowed whole, and regurgitated here as revealed
truth.

Do yo have examples of your 'work' online, Arns? Is your best stuff on
your website?

Who is better than you at recording? JA? Bob Morein? Who of the pros
is as good as you are, Arns?

Of course, Arns, your insanity no doubt clouds your judgement.

[George M. Middius]

Iain Churches said:

BTW, no amount of proof will ever get Krooger to admit that is your
workshop. Lying about everything is so deeply ingrained into Mr. ****'s
wetware that he is incapable of grasping even the meaning of "truth".

I know that George. He strikes me as a sad
old fellow. I actually feel rather sorry for him.

That's Stage Three of the Five Stages of Krooger Acclimatization. I'm sure
you've been through the first two; here's the whole list.


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

The Five Stages of Krooger Acclimatization

1. Rationalization

When a Normal first encounters the Krooborg, his or her first instinct is
to reason with the Beast. It's only natural to try to clear up what appear
to be misunderstandings, whether by repetition, reasoning, or reference to
documented facts. Rationalization always fails with the Krooborg. It
usually leads to Turdborg calling the Normal a "liar" or inventing bizarre
and twisted interpretations of what the Normal said.

2. Outrage

Krooger's ridiculous accusations, mindless hair-splitting, and outright
lies tend to inspire outrage. During the Outrage Stage, a Normal is likely
to snap at the Krooborg, call it names, or make an issue of its towering
hypocrisy. None of these Normal behaviors deters the Krooborg from seeking
what it believes is a "debating trade victory" -- i.e., more of the same
behavior that outraged the Normal to begin with.

3. Pity

After observing at first-hand the Krooborg's inability to converse with
human beings, most Normals experience pity for it. The Beast's unhealthy
emotional state and obviously damaged mind cause most Normals to try a bit
of consoling, or even apology. These human responses are likely to provoke
Mr. **** into proclamations of "victory".

4. Disgust

The Fourth Stage occurs when a Normal realizes the pointlessness of
continuing to engage the Krooborg. Having failed to reach it with logic,
reason, submissiveness, or babying, the Normal is likely to give up on
having any serious exchange with Mr. ****.

5. Reviling or Killfile

Having reached the inescapable conclusion that treating the Krooborg as a
human being is pointless, the Normal almost invariably either skews his or
her posts toward hostility or simply ignores the Beast. (The few exceptions
are Normals who are employed in the audio industry.) If you encounter an
individual who does not either revile the Krooborg or have it killfiled,
that individual is a 'borg.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


This pattern has repeated itself many times. The pattern is
well-established and ineluctable. (Other posters have described the Krooger
Effect in different terms; the Five Stages described above are the
Resistance's official stance.)

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Recording, like any other profession is not something one
picks up. It requires study, and a great deal of practice.

Been there, done that.

There you go again:-)

You need to work under a master craftsman. You need to study
music theory, look at orchestral scores, and know the classical
repertoire well.

Iain, here's a news flash for you that you seem to badly need. Not
everybody who records music, records classical music, or orchestras.

Indeed. But the above still applies, just as in the same way that
not all pianists play classical music. But you will find, that most
of the best jazz players for example have a strong classical
technique. Listen to Bach. Was he not the King of Jazz?
I worked a couple of times with the American clarinet legend
Benny Goodman. He used to warm up on "The Forty Eight"

You're living in the past Iain. Benny Goodman has been dead for over 20
years.

And Bach died in 1750. Does that detract from his greatness?
I worked with BG when I was a very young man. It was an
unforgettable experience.

Very nice but relevant to life in 2007 how?

For me, quite simply by building experience, and a recorded
repertoire.

Everyone in jazz knows of Benny Goodman, and to have worked
with the man is a great honour. Clarinet students today
listen and study his work, just as saxophone students study the
work of Charlie Parker who died in 1955, and jazz composers
and arrangers study Ellington who died in 1972. That kind of
genius is timeless. That is how it is relevant to 2007.

I doubt that you could pass the
Swedish sec school leavers exam. Your English is
not good enough:-)

So you say, Iain. But according to you tubes are poised to make a comeback
in the audio world. How relevant is that?

Where did I say that? You are rambling my dear fellow.
Since the the 1990s sales of tube amps have been increasing
steadily. They are not huge, but there are a number of small
companies, like Patrick Turner for instance, and Per Lindstrom
here in Sweden, who make a very good living indeed building
bespoke tube amps, to the customer's exact requirements.
Beats being a second hand computer repair man any day,
doesn't it:-)


So have you always been employed by someone else?

Most of my life.

They are skimming the fruits of your labours.

As did your employers Iain, presuming that you were once far more relevant
and productive.

I worked at two major companies, because this was the way to
get the training and experience which I needed, It was the best
investment I ever made, and has certainly paid itself back many
times over in later life.

Obviously you've never run a consulting business, Iain. There's this
little thing called "overhead".

I am a partner in two thriving companies.

But, wait a minute, I recall not to long ago a claim by you,
in some strange twisted logic, that you had earned enough money
for your church to warrant the title "professional recording
engineer". You don't meet the criterion in any sense.

You're talking trash again, Iain. I never said any such thing. You can
try
to google up your lost reputation for truthfulness at your earliest
convenience.

I won't need to do that. It caused great amusement at the time.
Someone will remember, and send it to me by e-mail., that's for sure.

Interesting that you believe everything that anybody emails to you, Iain.

I am sure they will find the very post, by you, to which I refer.


I pray to God I shall be spared from such an experience.
Give me the wonderful music of the Russian Orthodox any day.

Whatever that means. Let me guess - that passes for a joke in Finland?

So you are not familiar with the music of the Russian Orthodox Church?
Grecheninov, Bortnynski (I think that is how it is spelt)
Quite wonderful! Forget your tambourione bashers Arny and get
acquainted with some real choral music.

[Richard Crowley]

"Iain Churches" wrote ...
So you are not familiar with the music of the Russian Orthodox Church?
Grecheninov, Bortnynski (I think that is how it is spelt)
Quite wonderful! Forget your tambourione bashers Arny and get
acquainted with some real choral music.

Arkhangelski, Bortniansky, Chesnokov, Glinka,
Grecaninoff, Ippolitov-Ivanov, Kalinnikov, Kopylov,
Leontovich, Lvov, Nikolsky, Prokhorov, Rachmaninoff,
Sheremetev, Shvedoff, Sveshnikov, Taneyev, Tchaikovsky,
Volna.

All those unforgettable hit-makers published by Musica
Russica :-) At least those are the ones in my current
collection.

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You've missed the point again. The past trend in purchasing was to scrap
tubes for solid state. That took tubed audio gear from total dominance
down to a tiny niche. That tiny niche of remaining tubed equipment is so
miniscule that it could double, triple, probably even grow by 10 times,
and still have no discernable impact on the sales or usage of
similarly-functioned SS gear.

Now you are back to lowest common denominators
again Arny.

Who says its low?

Is that all you understand?

Yawn.
Is is past your bed time?

What interests me here is not mass sales.

Obviously, neither does sound quality interest you.

Gosh. You are thick.! Tube audio is a hobby for
me. The fact that is is a hobby which also brings in
income is besides the point.

The number of suits sold by
Saville Row tailors is miniscule compared to those sold
by your cheap and cheerful American mass-retail outlets.

Irrelevant comparison because a custom-tailored suit does actually fit
better.

When a client buys a custom built amp from
Patrick, or Lindstrom, his wishes become a part
of the design strategy. He may choose the
number of inputs for a preamp, balanced or
unbalanced, at a chosen sentivity. He may choose
on a power amp the chassis materials,
stainless steel, nickel plated, copper or whatever.
So, just like a Saville Row suit, the system fits
and reflects the personality of the owner.
It is *exactly* what he wanted. Not some shoddy SS
amp in a 1mm thick folded chassis, available from every
discount store from LA to Hong Kong.

In the same way the sale of Bentleys might be small in
comparison with Toyota or Nissan, but the people who
own a Bentley,

Major justification: status symbol

Excellent car. The only people who don't like them are
those that haven't got one.

just like the people who own a bespoke
tube amp, would not change it for the world.

Major justification: status symbol

Ditto.


The same applies to hand made furniture,

Actually interesting when unique pieces are involved.

or small volume clock and watch production.

Major justification: status symbol

You are indeed a pleb! Without, it seems, a modicum
of good taste:-)


I for one am happy that there is still
some demand for craftsmanship in the world.

I hate to see good workmanship wasted on whimsy and weak egos badly in
need of tangible support.

People like Patrick, and Lindstrom, are
the most pleasant and content people one could
wish to meet. Tube craft is a very rewarding pursuit.
But it requires a level of dedication that few possess.

[Iain Churches[_2_]]

"Richard Crowley" wrote in message
...
"Iain Churches" wrote ...
So you are not familiar with the music of the Russian Orthodox Church?
Grecheninov, Bortnynski (I think that is how it is spelt)
Quite wonderful! Forget your tambourione bashers Arny and get
acquainted with some real choral music.

Arkhangelski, Bortniansky, Chesnokov, Glinka,
Grecaninoff, Ippolitov-Ivanov, Kalinnikov, Kopylov,
Leontovich, Lvov, Nikolsky, Prokhorov, Rachmaninoff,
Sheremetev, Shvedoff, Sveshnikov, Taneyev, Tchaikovsky,
Volna.

All those unforgettable hit-makers published by Musica
Russica :-) At least those are the ones in my current
collection.

Hi Richard. There are some names there with which I am
not familiar. So much wonderful music - so little time.

[Clyde Slick]

On 12 Sep, 15:41, "Arny Krueger" wrote:
"bassett" wrote in message



In other words get the queer **** to put up or shut up.

Seems like you've done my work for me, Bassett.

nice friend you got, arny.
DId you meet him in church this past sunday?

[Clyde Slick]

On 12 Sep, 22:05, George M. Middius cmndr _ george @ comcast . net
wrote:
Iain Churches said:

BTW, no amount of proof will ever get Krooger to admit that is your
workshop. Lying about everything is so deeply ingrained into Mr. ****'s
wetware that he is incapable of grasping even the meaning of "truth".
I know that George. He strikes me as a sad
old fellow. I actually feel rather sorry for him.

That's Stage Three of the Five Stages of Krooger Acclimatization. I'm sure
you've been through the first two; here's the whole list.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

The Five Stages of Krooger Acclimatization

1. Rationalization

When a Normal first encounters the Krooborg, his or her first instinct is
to reason with the Beast. It's only natural to try to clear up what appear
to be misunderstandings, whether by repetition, reasoning, or reference to
documented facts. Rationalization always fails with the Krooborg. It
usually leads to Turdborg calling the Normal a "liar" or inventing bizarre
and twisted interpretations of what the Normal said.

2. Outrage

Krooger's ridiculous accusations, mindless hair-splitting, and outright
lies tend to inspire outrage. During the Outrage Stage, a Normal is likely
to snap at the Krooborg, call it names, or make an issue of its towering
hypocrisy. None of these Normal behaviors deters the Krooborg from seeking
what it believes is a "debating trade victory" -- i.e., more of the same
behavior that outraged the Normal to begin with.

3. Pity

After observing at first-hand the Krooborg's inability to converse with
human beings, most Normals experience pity for it. The Beast's unhealthy
emotional state and obviously damaged mind cause most Normals to try a bit
of consoling, or even apology. These human responses are likely to provoke
Mr. **** into proclamations of "victory".

4. Disgust

The Fourth Stage occurs when a Normal realizes the pointlessness of
continuing to engage the Krooborg. Having failed to reach it with logic,
reason, submissiveness, or babying, the Normal is likely to give up on
having any serious exchange with Mr. ****.

5. Reviling or Killfile

Having reached the inescapable conclusion that treating the Krooborg as a
human being is pointless, the Normal almost invariably either skews his or
her posts toward hostility or simply ignores the Beast. (The few exceptions
are Normals who are employed in the audio industry.) If you encounter an
individual who does not either revile the Krooborg or have it killfiled,
that individual is a 'borg.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

This pattern has repeated itself many times. The pattern is
well-established and ineluctable. (Other posters have described the Krooger
Effect in different terms; the Five Stages described above are the
Resistance's official stance.)


I've completely skipped step 3, Pity.

[Arny Krueger]

"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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You've missed the point again. The past trend in purchasing was to
scrap
tubes for solid state. That took tubed audio gear from total dominance
down to a tiny niche. That tiny niche of remaining tubed equipment is
so
miniscule that it could double, triple, probably even grow by 10 times,
and still have no discernable impact on the sales or usage of
similarly-functioned SS gear.

Now you are back to lowest common denominators
again Arny.

Who says its low?

Is that all you understand?

Yawn.
Is is past your bed time?

What interests me here is not mass sales.

Obviously, neither does sound quality interest you.

Gosh. You are thick.! Tube audio is a hobby for
me.

Yeah Iain, a really odd hobby where you waste time with less than the best
sound available for a reasonable price.

The fact that is is a hobby which also brings in income is besides the
point.

Agreed. So why say it? We've heard you brag about this, plenty.

The number of suits sold by
Saville Row tailors is miniscule compared to those sold
by your cheap and cheerful American mass-retail outlets.

Irrelevant comparison because a custom-tailored suit does actually fit
better.

When a client buys a custom built amp from
Patrick, or Lindstrom, his wishes become a part
of the design strategy.

Most people are far more interested in how the music sounds. Sue 'em all!

He may choose the
number of inputs for a preamp, balanced or
unbalanced, at a chosen sensitivity.

What does it matter as long as there are enough inputs with the desired
config?

He may choose
on a power amp the chassis materials,
stainless steel, nickel plated, copper or whatever.

What does it matter as long as the parts are kept safe, and the ergo and
appearance is reasonble?

So, just like a Saville Row suit, the system fits
and reflects the personality of the owner.

What does it say if a person needs crutches to project who they are?

It is *exactly* what he wanted. Not some shoddy SS
amp in a 1mm thick folded chassis, available from every
discount store from LA to Hong Kong.

Straw man argument, the only reasonble alternative is not shoddy.

In the same way the sale of Bentleys might be small in
comparison with Toyota or Nissan, but the people who
own a Bentley,

Major justification: status symbol

Excellent car. The only people who don't like them are
those that haven't got one.

Wrong. For many people it is a completely impractical car. Furthermore it
projects an image of materialsm and "It's all about money, my money" that
may not fit them.

just like the people who own a bespoke
tube amp, would not change it for the world.

Major justification: status symbol

Ditto.

Ditto.

The same applies to hand made furniture,

Actually interesting when unique pieces are involved.

or small volume clock and watch production.

Major justification: status symbol

You are indeed a pleb! Without, it seems, a modicum
of good taste:-)

I don't care what you think of me, Iain. Denigrate my preferences as you
will. Most persons with taste will consider the source.

I for one am happy that there is still
some demand for craftsmanship in the world.

I hate to see good workmanship wasted on whimsy and weak egos badly in
need of tangible support.

People like Patrick, and Lindstrom, are
the most pleasant and content people one could
wish to meet.

They have the pleasure of service and craft. Too bad they are so taken up
with trying to please some very shallow people.

Tube craft is a very rewarding pursuit.

Only if the best possible sound is not your goal.

But it requires a level of dedication that few possess.

It requires a level of obscurity that most have no time for.

[George M. Middius]

Iain Churches said to The Big ****:

And Bach died in 1750. Does that detract from his greatness?
I worked with BG when I was a very young man. It was an
unforgettable experience.

Very nice but relevant to life in 2007 how?

For me, quite simply by building experience, and a recorded
repertoire.

Everyone in jazz knows of Benny Goodman, and to have worked
with the man is a great honour. Clarinet students today
listen and study his work, just as saxophone students study the
work of Charlie Parker who died in 1955, and jazz composers
and arrangers study Ellington who died in 1972. That kind of
genius is timeless. That is how it is relevant to 2007.

Your point is quite right, and the wisdom of it is apparent even to
non-productionoids (most of RAO).

However, you're "debating" with someone who has repeatedly pooh-poohed
music as a reference for audio.





--


"Music is irrelevant to audio."
A. Krooger (1998, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2006)

[Arny Krueger]

"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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Cut your production by 90%.

Iain, I'm only meeting demand, which you have frequently claimed as a
justification for your weirdness.

You need be well-versed in the
field in which you are working, be it Baroque, classical, pop,
jazz or whatever.

Working on it. I've got an in-house guy with a PhD in music to help me.

You need to know the repertoire.

I don't get to choose that.

You need to pay attention to detail.

Been there, done that and in many ways you'll never understand for lack of
practical experience.

In your case, where you cannot afford
the services of a professional producer, you need to be constantly
thinking not only about the technical but also the musical aspects
of the performance.

I leave that to the PhD who works with the musicians.

If you want to record choirs, and it seems that you do, take
the time to listen to some proper choir recordings with good
performers (King's College, Cambridge, on Decca, is one of the
finest in the world, recorded in an excellent acoustic)
Listen intently, follow the score. Learn.

I rarely have the luxury of even a mediocre acoustic, so Iain your advice is
worthless.

You are doing your church a great disservice by passing off
such shoddy work.

I've produced about 400 hours of work for my church. How much of it have you
heard?

Shame on you! If, on the day of Judgement
God turns out to have perfect pitch, you and your band of
tambourine bashers will be in real trouble:-)

We do have a tambourine, but its part of much of our musical genre. Your
comments indicate ignorance of the genre in which I often work, Iain.

Take much more care, with infinitely more forward planning, for
each project.

Planning is another thing that is pretty limited by the context. At the
earliest, I know the song selection 4 days before the day of recording.

Have higher standards.

If I had higher standards for many things, I'd be of zero service to my
market.

Listen to other people's work.

I do that quite a bit.

Keep in touch with reality.

That would mean totally avoiding you, Iain.

Forget your "Been there, done
that" You may have been there, but you did nothing at all of any
merit.

So what percentage of the 400 or so hours of recordings that I've made in
the past 4-5 years have you heard, Iain?

[George M. Middius]

Iain Churches said:

In the same way the sale of Bentleys might be small in
comparison with Toyota or Nissan, but the people who
own a Bentley,

Major justification: status symbol

Excellent car. The only people who don't like them are
those that haven't got one.

I'm not justifying the Krooborg's odious class envy, but shouldn't the very
rich take a leadership role in reducing our dependence on carbon-based
fuels?

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Sep 12, 3:57 pm, "Arny Krueger" wrote:

So what percentage of the 400 or so hours of recordings that I've made in
the past 4-5 years have you heard, Iain?

Put up a bunch on your website then, good old Arns.

They're digital, I presume, so nothing will be lost.

[bassett[_2_]]

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Seems like you've done my work for me, Bassett.


You could answer Bassett' question by forwarding the
long list of recordings and catalogue numbers I listed for
you when you were arm in arm with Pinkie. It shut you up,
and will probaby shut Bassett up also.

No completely solo efforts. You know, you arranged for the artists,
obtained the venue at your own expense, personally owned every piece of
equipment, did all the setup, recording, editing, production yourself.

Apples-to-apples or zilch.

Ha, You forgot to say, that after all that non-productive work,
he also spends all his spare time on Usenet , promoting his ever
increasing ego.
Ask yourself a small question, If he's that wonderful, successful,
and well known, How come he lives in an arseole of a ****ry,
[ there's an advert there for ''shooter'' Jennings] like bloody
Finland. he know doubt exists in a small room behind the sardine
factory.
Of cause for all we know, he could be living next door to Phil
A, or he could be Phil A. Now there's a thought, worthy of
consideration.
bassett

[bassett[_2_]]

"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
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On 12 Sep, 15:41, "Arny Krueger" wrote:
"bassett" wrote in message



In other words get the queer **** to put up or shut up.

Seems like you've done my work for me, Bassett.

nice friend you got, arny.
DId you meet him in church this past sunday?


No he ****'in didn't, so mind your business Cum Stain,

[bassett[_2_]]

"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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"bassett" wrote in message
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message

Iain, I seriously doubt that the comments above are anything but
fantasy. If they aren't, it says a lot about how pathetic your life
is, that you would go to these extremes to gratify yourself.

I really dunno why you bother Arny,, The blokes on a giant ego
trip to know where.
Ask him , just how many valve amps he's produced over the
amount of ONE

Hello Bassett. Nice to see you teamed up with Arny:-)

people tend to do that when an infection arrives

http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...ProdnBatch.jpg

Well they won't win any awords for design, that's for sure.

Second batch of ten now being built. Most are already reserved.

there lose is our gain, Still anyone doing business with the
likes of you, deserve's all they get.

First of all Bassett, you need to get your terminology right. There is
no such thing as a production engineer in music recording. You are
either a Producer or an Engineer. If one does both roles, then
Producer/Engineer is the correct title.

I don't need to get anything right, If you don't like what you
read, don't read it. life really is that simply

Unlike your goodself, Bassett, I have no need to cower behind a
pseudonym and a false e-mail address.

That will be the day Boy, that I cower behind anything, I also
don't need to explain my reasons for the bodgee name or address,
to the likes of queer ****s like you.

Get a copy of the Decca, RCA or Fuga classical catalogues.Then look at
the EU Cultural Foundation database. You will find plenty of my work
there.

Iain

Still going on about Decca are we, pathitic really, bit like
benny goodman, or Benjamin David. Anyway the ****'s dead.
Your living in the past, you really should up date your brain,
together with your ego.

lov to arny bassett

[bassett[_2_]]

"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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"George M. Middius" cmndr _ george @ comcast . net wrote in message
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Iain Churches said:

http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...ProdnBatch.jpg

Whatever they are, whoever they belong to, wherever they are.

My workshop.

Don't those open boxes get dusty?

The dust contributes to the retro sound:-) They are all tested
and await documentation in a couple of days they will have their
top panels fitted, and be ready for delivery.

You can see a ready one at:

http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches/Pics/02A.jpg

The separate psu has two DC outputs, and can also power
a tube vinyl stage, designed and built in the same format.

First of all Stupid, you need to get your terminology right.
it's a Phono stage.


BTW, no amount of proof will ever get Krooger to admit that is your
workshop. Lying about everything is so deeply ingrained into Mr. ****'s
wetware that he is incapable of grasping even the meaning of "truth".


I know that George. He strikes me as a sad
old fellow. I actually feel rather sorry for him.

[bassett[_2_]]

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Ask him , just how many valve amps he's produced over the
amount of ONE

Hello Bassett. Nice to see you teamed up with Arny:-)

http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...ProdnBatch.jpg

Whatever they are, whoever they belong to, wherever they are.

My workshop. Pics of which were posted on RAT (in a thread to which
you posted) Come and take a look for yourself -any time.

Coordinated lies are still lies. ;-)

Come and take a look. The offer still stands.

Pics of your amp projects would be of great interest.

Check Behringer's web site for their A500. I can't afford the time to
personally build a common kind of wheel.

So are saying you designed and built the Behringer A500? LOL

That's the unit which according to the local agent is not worthwhile
to repair. They put them in the bin and give the client a new one!


Note what seem to be power transistor cases on the middle deck of the
closest chassis. ;-)

Blind as well as stupid? :-))

At worst, victimized by a poor quality jpg.

You are indeed quite mad. It's a B9A tube socket.
Look along at the fourth unit, you will see it has the tubes fitted.


Funny I thought they where valves,,, Tubes are things water runs
through....

[bassett[_2_]]

"Iain Churches" wrote in message

I worked with BG when I was a very young man. It was an
unforgettable experience.

You told everyone that, some 20 odd posts ago, got any current news,
or are just wallowing in memories.
At that stage in your sad little life, you where no doubt the
chief [self titled] tea boy.
Was that when you where in control of Decca.

True, sorry to say. I doubt that you could pass the
Swedish sec school leavers exam. Your English is
not good enough:-)

Why the ****, would anyone want to.

So have you always been employed by someone else?
They are skimming the fruits of your labours.

Well you would hardly be employed by yourself , now would you.
Still I expect your five little friends get a lot of work.

[bassett[_2_]]

"Iain Churches" wrote in message
Now you are back to lowest common denominators
again Arny. Is that all you understand? What interests
me here is not mass sales. The number of suits sold by
Saville Row tailors is miniscule compared to those sold
by your cheap and cheerful American mass-retail outlets.
In the same way the sale of Bentleys might be small in
comparison with Toyota or Nissan, but the people who
own a Bentley, just like the people who own a bespoke
tube amp, would not change it for the world. The same
applies to hand made furniture, or small volume clock
and watch production. I for one am happy that there is still
some demand for craftsmanship in the world.

Iain

bentley went broke and are now owned by VW

[Iain Churches[_2_]]

"bassett" wrote in message
...

"Iain Churches" wrote in message
Now you are back to lowest common denominators
again Arny. Is that all you understand? What interests
me here is not mass sales. The number of suits sold by
Saville Row tailors is miniscule compared to those sold
by your cheap and cheerful American mass-retail outlets.
In the same way the sale of Bentleys might be small in
comparison with Toyota or Nissan, but the people who
own a Bentley, just like the people who own a bespoke
tube amp, would not change it for the world. The same
applies to hand made furniture, or small volume clock
and watch production. I for one am happy that there is still
some demand for craftsmanship in the world.

Iain

bentley went broke and are now owned by VW


Bentley is still built in the UK, and like the other
prestigious marques, Aston Martin etc, have a healthy order
book.

[Iain Churches[_2_]]

"bassett" wrote in message
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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"George M. Middius" cmndr _ george @ comcast . net wrote in message
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Iain Churches said:

http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...ProdnBatch.jpg

Whatever they are, whoever they belong to, wherever they are.

My workshop.

Don't those open boxes get dusty?

The dust contributes to the retro sound:-) They are all tested
and await documentation in a couple of days they will have their
top panels fitted, and be ready for delivery.

You can see a ready one at:

http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches/Pics/02A.jpg

The separate psu has two DC outputs, and can also power
a tube vinyl stage, designed and built in the same format.

First of all Stupid, you need to get your terminology right.
it's a Phono stage.

The unit is called TVS, the monogram for Tube Vinyl
Stage.

[Iain Churches[_2_]]

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Ask him , just how many valve amps he's produced over the
amount of ONE

Hello Bassett. Nice to see you teamed up with Arny:-)

http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...ProdnBatch.jpg

Whatever they are, whoever they belong to, wherever they are.

My workshop. Pics of which were posted on RAT (in a thread to which
you posted) Come and take a look for yourself -any time.

Coordinated lies are still lies. ;-)

Come and take a look. The offer still stands.

Pics of your amp projects would be of great interest.

Check Behringer's web site for their A500. I can't afford the time to
personally build a common kind of wheel.

So are saying you designed and built the Behringer A500? LOL

That's the unit which according to the local agent is not worthwhile
to repair. They put them in the bin and give the client a new one!


Note what seem to be power transistor cases on the middle deck of the
closest chassis. ;-)

Blind as well as stupid? :-))

At worst, victimized by a poor quality jpg.

You are indeed quite mad. It's a B9A tube socket.
Look along at the fourth unit, you will see it has the tubes fitted.


Funny I thought they where valves,,,

They are indeed called valves in the UK and the Commonwealth.
But you will find that in a more global sense, the word "tube" is
widely used. In addition, except for Russian, where they use the
word "lamp" the word in most languages translates to tube and not
valve (which is a device to restrict liquid flow)

Tubes are things water runs
through....

No, they are pipes.

[Iain Churches[_2_]]

"George M. Middius" cmndr _ george @ comcast . net wrote in message
...


Iain Churches said to The Big ****:

And Bach died in 1750. Does that detract from his greatness?
I worked with BG when I was a very young man. It was an
unforgettable experience.

Very nice but relevant to life in 2007 how?

For me, quite simply by building experience, and a recorded
repertoire.

Everyone in jazz knows of Benny Goodman, and to have worked
with the man is a great honour. Clarinet students today
listen and study his work, just as saxophone students study the
work of Charlie Parker who died in 1955, and jazz composers
and arrangers study Ellington who died in 1972. That kind of
genius is timeless. That is how it is relevant to 2007.

Your point is quite right, and the wisdom of it is apparent even to
non-productionoids (most of RAO).

However, you're "debating" with someone who has repeatedly pooh-poohed
music as a reference for audio.

"Music is irrelevant to audio."
A. Krooger (1998, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2006)


George. I can see that you, and many others, are right.
I could be spending my time in a much more productive way.
And now that he has teamed up with the anonymous dyslectic
Bassett, there is just no hope:-)

Let's forget those two, and talk about audio.
Best regards
Iain

[Iain Churches[_2_]]

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"bassett" wrote in message



In other words get the queer **** to put up or shut up.

Seems like you've done my work for me, Bassett.

nice friend you got, arny.
DId you meet him in church this past sunday?


No he ****'in didn't, so mind your business Cum Stain,

Bassett. Is there any truth to the rumour that your are in the
running for the position of Minister of Culture in Australia?

[Iain Churches[_2_]]

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"bassett" wrote in message



In other words get the queer **** to put up or shut up.

Seems like you've done my work for me, Bassett.

nice friend you got, arny.
DId you meet him in church this past sunday?

Clyde. I am happy to see Bassett and Arny arm in arm.
But, sadly, Bassett is a stark contrast to Pinkie, who
was well educated and literate.

[Iain Churches[_2_]]

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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Cut your production by 90%.

Iain, I'm only meeting demand, which you have frequently claimed as a
justification for your weirdness.

But doing much less you can do it much better.

You need be well-versed in the
field in which you are working, be it Baroque, classical, pop,
jazz or whatever.

Working on it. I've got an in-house guy with a PhD in music to help me.

Excellent. That's very good news.
Step 2. Keep your mouth shut and listen to the man.
Learn from him. Also, get yourself enrolled as a recording arts
student. Level 1. and take it from there.

You need to know the repertoire.
I don't get to choose that.

You miss the point. You need to know the repertoire.

You need to pay attention to detail.

Been there, done that and in many ways you'll never understand for lack of
practical experience.

You may have been there, but you cannot make the same mistakes
over and over again.

In your case, where you cannot afford
the services of a professional producer, you need to be constantly
thinking not only about the technical but also the musical aspects
of the performance.

I leave that to the PhD who works with the musicians.
That is the incorrect approach. You are working as a close-nit
team. Please try to inderstand that.


I rarely have the luxury of even a mediocre acoustic, so Iain your advice
is worthless.

The advice, which any professional will give you, is
invaluable. You need to build a reference, and you cannot
do this by listening to your own (in your case) poor
recordings.

You are doing your church a great disservice by passing off
such shoddy work.

I've produced about 400 hours of work for my church. How much of it have
you heard?

Not too much. Thankfully.

Shame on you! If, on the day of Judgement
God turns out to have perfect pitch, you and your band of
tambourine bashers will be in real trouble:-)

Take much more care, with infinitely more forward planning, for
each project.

Planning is another thing that is pretty limited by the context. At the
earliest, I know the song selection 4 days before the day of recording.

I am talking about technical forward planning not reperetoire.

Have higher standards.

If I had higher standards for many things, I'd be of zero service to my
market.

Better is better, even though you work for your church for nothing.


Forget your "Been there, done
that" You may have been there, but you did nothing at all of any
merit.

So what percentage of the 400 or so hours of recordings that I've made in
the past 4-5 years have you heard, Iain?

I have heard enough to tell me (with reference to the work of
first year students) that you don't have a clue at the moment.
That's a pity, because I get the feeling that recording is something
close to your heart.

[Mr.T]

"roughplanet" wrote in message
u...
still limits his involvement to the occassional snipe from the sidelines
:-).

Obviously.

MrT.

[bassett[_2_]]

"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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On 12 Sep, 15:41, "Arny Krueger" wrote:
"bassett" wrote in message



In other words get the queer **** to put up or shut up.

Seems like you've done my work for me, Bassett.

nice friend you got, arny.
DId you meet him in church this past sunday?


No he ****'in didn't, so mind your business Cum Stain,

Bassett. Is there any truth to the rumour that your are in the
running for the position of Minister of Culture in Australia?

You got that right, and we might get you for technicial director,
You could be in charge of everything unimportant.
But then your blowing your trumpit, quite well were you are, So
the exercise would be a complete waste of your valuable time. So
you just stay where you are and blow your mates instead.