"dave weil" wrote in message

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 10:13:53 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Yet another example of your basic wired-in blockheadedness, Weil.
What sort of a regimen of which drugs gets a normal teenager to your
current mental state?

What an asshole. I hope that Mr. Wheeler takes you for as much as he
can.

I think he will. ;-)

What is it in *your* heredity that has hard-wired you to be such a
mess?

Lack of patience with stupidity and arrogance beyond certain fairly uncommon
extremes.

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 10:27:22 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

What is it in *your* heredity that has hard-wired you to be such a
mess?

Lack of patience with stupidity and arrogance beyond certain fairly uncommon
extremes.

Then how do you live with yourself?

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 10:27:22 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

What is it in *your* heredity that has hard-wired you to be such a
mess?

Lack of patience with stupidity and arrogance beyond certain fairly uncommon
extremes.

Then how do you live with yourself?

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 10:27:22 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

What is it in *your* heredity that has hard-wired you to be such a
mess?

Lack of patience with stupidity and arrogance beyond certain fairly uncommon
extremes.

Then how do you live with yourself?

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 16:13:30 +0100, Lionel
wrote:

dave weil a écrit :

Calling me a jerk points out *your* problem, especially as I've been
trying to be nice to you.

Everytime I do, you just poke me in the eye again.

This is The Smart-Guy's fate.
Jesus said that...

Actually he *didn't* say that.

Are you sure it wasn't Petain?

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 16:13:30 +0100, Lionel
wrote:

dave weil a écrit :

Calling me a jerk points out *your* problem, especially as I've been
trying to be nice to you.

Everytime I do, you just poke me in the eye again.

This is The Smart-Guy's fate.
Jesus said that...

Actually he *didn't* say that.

Are you sure it wasn't Petain?

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 16:13:30 +0100, Lionel
wrote:

dave weil a écrit :

Calling me a jerk points out *your* problem, especially as I've been
trying to be nice to you.

Everytime I do, you just poke me in the eye again.

This is The Smart-Guy's fate.
Jesus said that...

Actually he *didn't* say that.

Are you sure it wasn't Petain?

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 10:27:22 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

What is it in *your* heredity that has hard-wired you to be such a
mess?

Lack of patience with stupidity and arrogance beyond certain fairly
uncommon extremes.

Then how do you live with yourself?

Obviously, I'm not as stupid and arrogant as you are, Weil. Live with it.

For one thing, I can properly distinguish and characterize CAV and CLV. You
are too arrogant and stupid to do even that. At this point you could just
believe what you've been told. On the 10 point scale of understanding
technology, that's about a 0.1 . No wonder you've been so hard to explain
things to for the past several years!

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 10:27:22 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

What is it in *your* heredity that has hard-wired you to be such a
mess?

Lack of patience with stupidity and arrogance beyond certain fairly
uncommon extremes.

Then how do you live with yourself?

Obviously, I'm not as stupid and arrogant as you are, Weil. Live with it.

For one thing, I can properly distinguish and characterize CAV and CLV. You
are too arrogant and stupid to do even that. At this point you could just
believe what you've been told. On the 10 point scale of understanding
technology, that's about a 0.1 . No wonder you've been so hard to explain
things to for the past several years!

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 10:27:22 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

What is it in *your* heredity that has hard-wired you to be such a
mess?

Lack of patience with stupidity and arrogance beyond certain fairly
uncommon extremes.

Then how do you live with yourself?

Obviously, I'm not as stupid and arrogant as you are, Weil. Live with it.

For one thing, I can properly distinguish and characterize CAV and CLV. You
are too arrogant and stupid to do even that. At this point you could just
believe what you've been told. On the 10 point scale of understanding
technology, that's about a 0.1 . No wonder you've been so hard to explain
things to for the past several years!

dave weil a écrit :

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 16:13:30 +0100, Lionel
wrote:


dave weil a écrit :


Calling me a jerk points out *your* problem, especially as I've been
trying to be nice to you.

Everytime I do, you just poke me in the eye again.

This is The Smart-Guy's fate.
Jesus said that...


Actually he *didn't* say that.

Are you sure it wasn't Petain?

Good one ! But historically incompatible... :-)

dave weil a écrit :

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 16:13:30 +0100, Lionel
wrote:


dave weil a écrit :


Calling me a jerk points out *your* problem, especially as I've been
trying to be nice to you.

Everytime I do, you just poke me in the eye again.

This is The Smart-Guy's fate.
Jesus said that...


Actually he *didn't* say that.

Are you sure it wasn't Petain?

Good one ! But historically incompatible... :-)

dave weil a écrit :

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 16:13:30 +0100, Lionel
wrote:


dave weil a écrit :


Calling me a jerk points out *your* problem, especially as I've been
trying to be nice to you.

Everytime I do, you just poke me in the eye again.

This is The Smart-Guy's fate.
Jesus said that...


Actually he *didn't* say that.

Are you sure it wasn't Petain?

Good one ! But historically incompatible... :-)

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 10:33:13 +0100, Lionel
wrote:

Sir Pinkerton is also one of these "salon warriors" who vote for the war
that Mexican emmigrants will do for them.

Never voted for a war in my life - although I've been involved in
them.

http://www.ifrance.com/letunnel/Verdun/battle.html
I guess that 163,000 of them haven't running fast enough...

Difficult in all that mud, but they certainly tried!

How can you tell if there's a war in Europe? Paris is occupied.....
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 10:33:13 +0100, Lionel
wrote:

Sir Pinkerton is also one of these "salon warriors" who vote for the war
that Mexican emmigrants will do for them.

Never voted for a war in my life - although I've been involved in
them.

http://www.ifrance.com/letunnel/Verdun/battle.html
I guess that 163,000 of them haven't running fast enough...

Difficult in all that mud, but they certainly tried!

How can you tell if there's a war in Europe? Paris is occupied.....
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 10:33:13 +0100, Lionel
wrote:

Sir Pinkerton is also one of these "salon warriors" who vote for the war
that Mexican emmigrants will do for them.

Never voted for a war in my life - although I've been involved in
them.

http://www.ifrance.com/letunnel/Verdun/battle.html
I guess that 163,000 of them haven't running fast enough...

Difficult in all that mud, but they certainly tried!

How can you tell if there's a war in Europe? Paris is occupied.....
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 10:27:51 -0500, George M. Middius
wrote:

You're right that there are different speeds of rotation. 33-1/3 rpm
refers to the edge of the LP. If the disk were only 6" in diameter, it
would spin at a lower rate and we'd refer to its speed as 16-2/3.

You are a total ignoramus Gorge, it's 33.33 rpm all over the disc.
There is *one* rotational speed - 33.33 rpm.

CD of course is different, since it's a constant linear velocity disc,
not constant angular velocity. Hence, it spins slower towards the end
of the album.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 10:27:51 -0500, George M. Middius
wrote:

You're right that there are different speeds of rotation. 33-1/3 rpm
refers to the edge of the LP. If the disk were only 6" in diameter, it
would spin at a lower rate and we'd refer to its speed as 16-2/3.

You are a total ignoramus Gorge, it's 33.33 rpm all over the disc.
There is *one* rotational speed - 33.33 rpm.

CD of course is different, since it's a constant linear velocity disc,
not constant angular velocity. Hence, it spins slower towards the end
of the album.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 10:27:51 -0500, George M. Middius
wrote:

You're right that there are different speeds of rotation. 33-1/3 rpm
refers to the edge of the LP. If the disk were only 6" in diameter, it
would spin at a lower rate and we'd refer to its speed as 16-2/3.

You are a total ignoramus Gorge, it's 33.33 rpm all over the disc.
There is *one* rotational speed - 33.33 rpm.

CD of course is different, since it's a constant linear velocity disc,
not constant angular velocity. Hence, it spins slower towards the end
of the album.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

"George M. Middius" wrote in message
news
In the alternative, you could just rack up another RAO point for
helping Krooger work himself up into a lather over nothing.

Middius shows once again that it's not the truth that he's interested in,
it's the excitement of being killed that he craves.

"George M. Middius" wrote in message
news
In the alternative, you could just rack up another RAO point for
helping Krooger work himself up into a lather over nothing.

Middius shows once again that it's not the truth that he's interested in,
it's the excitement of being killed that he craves.

"George M. Middius" wrote in message
news
In the alternative, you could just rack up another RAO point for
helping Krooger work himself up into a lather over nothing.

Middius shows once again that it's not the truth that he's interested in,
it's the excitement of being killed that he craves.

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 17:34:19 +0000 (UTC), (Stewart
Pinkerton) wrote:

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 10:33:13 +0100, Lionel
wrote:

Sir Pinkerton is also one of these "salon warriors" who vote for the war
that Mexican emmigrants will do for them.

Never voted for a war in my life - although I've been involved in
them.

http://www.ifrance.com/letunnel/Verdun/battle.html
I guess that 163,000 of them haven't running fast enough...

Difficult in all that mud, but they certainly tried!

How can you tell if there's a war in Europe? Paris is occupied.....

I thought that it was that Britian was being bailed out by the Yanks.

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 17:34:19 +0000 (UTC), (Stewart
Pinkerton) wrote:

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 10:33:13 +0100, Lionel
wrote:

Sir Pinkerton is also one of these "salon warriors" who vote for the war
that Mexican emmigrants will do for them.

Never voted for a war in my life - although I've been involved in
them.

http://www.ifrance.com/letunnel/Verdun/battle.html
I guess that 163,000 of them haven't running fast enough...

Difficult in all that mud, but they certainly tried!

How can you tell if there's a war in Europe? Paris is occupied.....

I thought that it was that Britian was being bailed out by the Yanks.

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 17:34:19 +0000 (UTC), (Stewart
Pinkerton) wrote:

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 10:33:13 +0100, Lionel
wrote:

Sir Pinkerton is also one of these "salon warriors" who vote for the war
that Mexican emmigrants will do for them.

Never voted for a war in my life - although I've been involved in
them.

http://www.ifrance.com/letunnel/Verdun/battle.html
I guess that 163,000 of them haven't running fast enough...

Difficult in all that mud, but they certainly tried!

How can you tell if there's a war in Europe? Paris is occupied.....

I thought that it was that Britian was being bailed out by the Yanks.

Stewart Pinkerton a écrit :

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 10:33:13 +0100, Lionel
wrote:


Sir Pinkerton is also one of these "salon warriors" who vote for the war
that Mexican emmigrants will do for them.


Never voted for a war in my life - although I've been involved in
them.


http://www.ifrance.com/letunnel/Verdun/battle.html
I guess that 163,000 of them haven't running fast enough...


Difficult in all that mud, but they certainly tried!


And sincerely I understand them.

Stewart Pinkerton a écrit :

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 10:33:13 +0100, Lionel
wrote:


Sir Pinkerton is also one of these "salon warriors" who vote for the war
that Mexican emmigrants will do for them.


Never voted for a war in my life - although I've been involved in
them.


http://www.ifrance.com/letunnel/Verdun/battle.html
I guess that 163,000 of them haven't running fast enough...


Difficult in all that mud, but they certainly tried!


And sincerely I understand them.

Stewart Pinkerton a écrit :

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 10:33:13 +0100, Lionel
wrote:


Sir Pinkerton is also one of these "salon warriors" who vote for the war
that Mexican emmigrants will do for them.


Never voted for a war in my life - although I've been involved in
them.


http://www.ifrance.com/letunnel/Verdun/battle.html
I guess that 163,000 of them haven't running fast enough...


Difficult in all that mud, but they certainly tried!


And sincerely I understand them.

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 19:32:15 +0100, Lionel
wrote:

http://www.ifrance.com/letunnel/Verdun/battle.html
I guess that 163,000 of them haven't running fast enough...


Difficult in all that mud, but they certainly tried!


And sincerely I understand them.

Yes, at least they didn't have to crowd into rowboats to run away like
the Brits did.

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 19:32:15 +0100, Lionel
wrote:

http://www.ifrance.com/letunnel/Verdun/battle.html
I guess that 163,000 of them haven't running fast enough...


Difficult in all that mud, but they certainly tried!


And sincerely I understand them.

Yes, at least they didn't have to crowd into rowboats to run away like
the Brits did.

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 19:32:15 +0100, Lionel
wrote:

http://www.ifrance.com/letunnel/Verdun/battle.html
I guess that 163,000 of them haven't running fast enough...


Difficult in all that mud, but they certainly tried!


And sincerely I understand them.

Yes, at least they didn't have to crowd into rowboats to run away like
the Brits did.

"dave weil" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 08:00:29 +0000 (UTC), (Stewart
Pinkerton) wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 14:12:10 -0600, dave weil
wrote:

On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 19:56:50 +0000 (UTC), (Stewart
Pinkerton) wrote:

On an LP, of course there *is* no difference. Why would there be?

Because the velocity is constant, but the distance travelled per
revolution gets smaller and smaller the closer to the center?

So what? The rpm remains the same.

This is the sticking point for me, I guess. It's hard for me to see
why the rpm stays the same at all points of the disk.

It's just one of those mental blocks I guess. I see a constant speed
but a different distance travelled at diferent points of the disk.

shrug

RPM is conmstant, speed for any particular point on the radius is NOT.
Don't confuse RPM with speed.
The speed, in inches per second, varies with the distance from the center.
Your confusion lied not with the principles, of which I am sure you
understand, but iinstead lies with the semantics.




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"dave weil" wrote in message
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 08:00:29 +0000 (UTC), (Stewart
Pinkerton) wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 14:12:10 -0600, dave weil
wrote:

On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 19:56:50 +0000 (UTC), (Stewart
Pinkerton) wrote:

On an LP, of course there *is* no difference. Why would there be?

Because the velocity is constant, but the distance travelled per
revolution gets smaller and smaller the closer to the center?

So what? The rpm remains the same.

This is the sticking point for me, I guess. It's hard for me to see
why the rpm stays the same at all points of the disk.

It's just one of those mental blocks I guess. I see a constant speed
but a different distance travelled at diferent points of the disk.

shrug

RPM is conmstant, speed for any particular point on the radius is NOT.
Don't confuse RPM with speed.
The speed, in inches per second, varies with the distance from the center.
Your confusion lied not with the principles, of which I am sure you
understand, but iinstead lies with the semantics.




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"dave weil" wrote in message
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 08:00:29 +0000 (UTC), (Stewart
Pinkerton) wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 14:12:10 -0600, dave weil
wrote:

On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 19:56:50 +0000 (UTC), (Stewart
Pinkerton) wrote:

On an LP, of course there *is* no difference. Why would there be?

Because the velocity is constant, but the distance travelled per
revolution gets smaller and smaller the closer to the center?

So what? The rpm remains the same.

This is the sticking point for me, I guess. It's hard for me to see
why the rpm stays the same at all points of the disk.

It's just one of those mental blocks I guess. I see a constant speed
but a different distance travelled at diferent points of the disk.

shrug

RPM is conmstant, speed for any particular point on the radius is NOT.
Don't confuse RPM with speed.
The speed, in inches per second, varies with the distance from the center.
Your confusion lied not with the principles, of which I am sure you
understand, but iinstead lies with the semantics.




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"dave weil" wrote in message
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 08:00:29 +0000 (UTC), (Stewart
Pinkerton) wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 14:12:10 -0600, dave weil
wrote:

On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 19:56:50 +0000 (UTC), (Stewart
Pinkerton) wrote:

On an LP, of course there *is* no difference. Why would there be?

Because the velocity is constant, but the distance travelled per
revolution gets smaller and smaller the closer to the center?

So what? The rpm remains the same.

This is the sticking point for me, I guess. It's hard for me to see
why the rpm stays the same at all points of the disk.

It's just one of those mental blocks I guess. I see a constant speed
but a different distance travelled at diferent points of the disk.

shrug

RPM is conmstant, speed for any particular point on the radius is NOT.
Don't confuse RPM with speed.
The speed, in inches per second, varies with the distance from the center.
Your confusion lied not with the principles, of which I am sure you
understand, but iinstead lies with the semantics.




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"dave weil" wrote in message
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 10:13:53 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Yet another example of your basic wired-in blockheadedness, Weil. What
sort
of a regimen of which drugs gets a normal teenager to your current mental
state?

What an asshole. I hope that Mr. Wheeler takes you for as much as he
can.

What is it in *your* heredity that has hard-wired you to be such a
mess?

Cheap capacitors.




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"dave weil" wrote in message
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 10:13:53 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Yet another example of your basic wired-in blockheadedness, Weil. What
sort
of a regimen of which drugs gets a normal teenager to your current mental
state?

What an asshole. I hope that Mr. Wheeler takes you for as much as he
can.

What is it in *your* heredity that has hard-wired you to be such a
mess?

Cheap capacitors.




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"dave weil" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 10:13:53 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Yet another example of your basic wired-in blockheadedness, Weil. What
sort
of a regimen of which drugs gets a normal teenager to your current mental
state?

What an asshole. I hope that Mr. Wheeler takes you for as much as he
can.

What is it in *your* heredity that has hard-wired you to be such a
mess?

Cheap capacitors.




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"dave weil" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 10:13:53 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Yet another example of your basic wired-in blockheadedness, Weil. What
sort
of a regimen of which drugs gets a normal teenager to your current mental
state?

What an asshole. I hope that Mr. Wheeler takes you for as much as he
can.

What is it in *your* heredity that has hard-wired you to be such a
mess?

Cheap capacitors.




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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 10:27:51 -0500, George M. Middius
wrote:

You're right that there are different speeds of rotation. 33-1/3 rpm
refers to the edge of the LP. If the disk were only 6" in diameter, it
would spin at a lower rate and we'd refer to its speed as 16-2/3.

You are a total ignoramus Gorge, it's 33.33 rpm all over the disc.
There is *one* rotational speed - 33.33 rpm.

CD of course is different, since it's a constant linear velocity disc,
not constant angular velocity. Hence, it spins slower towards the end
of the album.
--


You are confusing the speed variation along the radius with speed variation
over the passage of time. And you are confusing RPM with speed.
By speed we mean the distance travelled per second, at any particular
point along the radius.Obviously, for a point farther along the radius from
the center, the
longer the circumference travelled in one revolution, for that point.
Thus, for any given period of time, a point farther along the radius from
the center travels
farther, thus has a greater speed.

This whole issue is clouded by semantics, where some people mistakenly
take RPM to be the speed. Example: The speed for a point one inch away form
the center
is 3.14 x 33.33, or 104.6562 inches per minute. For a point two inches out
from the center, it
is 12.56 x 33.33, or 418.6248 inches per minute, given a rotational 'rate'
of 33.33 RPM's




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