On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 18:14:54 +0100, The Devil wrote:

On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 21:12:06 GMT, ow
(Goofball_star_dot_etal) wrote:

Vote Carolynne!

No! Vote Alex! I want to wrap her up in cotton wool and keep her in my
pocket, note.

--
td

Well, I did in the end but I am kind of in love with Carolynne.

I suppose I should post a link for the poor Yanks. . .
http://www.bbc.co.uk/fameacademy/

On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:39:30 -0400, "Bob Morein"
wrote:


"Goofball_star_dot_etal" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:09:11 -0400, "Bob Morein"
wrote:


"Goofball_star_dot_etal" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:47:46 -0400, "Bob Morein"
wrote:


"Goofball_star_dot_etal" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:23:45 -0400, "Bob Morein"

wrote:

1. The woofer weighs more than the tweeter. Hence it responds
slower
to
the
driving electrical signal.

[snip]

Most likely you have been temporaily byedddled by The Evil High End.
Eat Marmite.

From what I understand, merely opening a jar of the stuff deprives one of
all powers of reason. I fail to see how that would rescue me from their
clutches.



Most likely I am clutching at straws and you are a dyed in the wool
tweako-freako, whereas I am a pinhead.

On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 19:03:31 +0100, Langis wrote:

(Goofball_star_dot_etal) wrote:

Vote Carolynne!

No! Vote Alex! I want to wrap her up in cotton wool and keep her in my
pocket, note.

--
td

Well, I did in the end but I am kind of in love with Carolynne.

I suppose I should post a link for the poor Yanks. . .
http://www.bbc.co.uk/fameacademy/

I don't know how you can stomach it, Fame Academy is sooo contrived.

Yeah, but love is blind and I kind of like Alex's voice and the bit
above the nose too.

Pop Idol isn't a zillion times better, but at least you get to see
self-important ****s being taken down a peg or two.

Who needs ITV when one has Auntie.

On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 19:03:31 +0100, Langis wrote:

I don't know how you can stomach it, Fame Academy is sooo contrived.
Pop Idol isn't a zillion times better, but at least you get to see
self-important ****s being taken down a peg or two.


Heck, most likely you are deaf and a eunuch, we will note. Yeah. that
must be it.

In article ,
ow (Goofball_star_dot_etal) wrote:

On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 18:14:54 +0100, The Devil wrote:

On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 21:12:06 GMT, ow
(Goofball_star_dot_etal) wrote:

Vote Carolynne!

No! Vote Alex! I want to wrap her up in cotton wool and keep her in my
pocket, note.

--
td

Well, I did in the end but I am kind of in love with Carolynne.

I suppose I should post a link for the poor Yanks. . .
http://www.bbc.co.uk/fameacademy/

Big Brother meets Pop Idol! Seeing baby singers in practice rooms is too
much like my real life...

Stephen

On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 20:18:36 +0100, Langis wrote:

(Goofball_star_dot_etal) wrote:

I don't know how you can stomach it, Fame Academy is sooo contrived.
Pop Idol isn't a zillion times better, but at least you get to see
self-important ****s being taken down a peg or two.


Heck, most likely you are deaf and a eunuch, we will note. Yeah. that
must be it.

Sorry Goof, such fruits are forbidden for a man of your years...


Heck, I am not as wrinkly as you think, whippersnapper..

On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 16:40:57 GMT, ow
(Goofball_star_dot_etal) wrote:

Well, I did in the end but I am kind of in love with Carolynne.

I suppose I should post a link for the poor Yanks. . .
http://www.bbc.co.uk/fameacademy/

I thought Carolynne had a pretty good voice at times, you will note.
The Fleetwood Mac song she did a few weeks back was extraordinary.

Alex has something. Her voice needs work, but I really think she has a
future. I found her second performance, in which she sang her own
composition, rather moving, I will note. Plus I want to keep her in my
pocket, I will also note, here, there, everywhere.

Back to renovating Telly Savalas Towers.

--
td

On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 20:06:27 +0100, Langis wrote:

Yeah, but love is blind and I kind of like Alex's voice and the bit
above the nose too.

I'm not that familiar with her facial features, my overall impression
is that at a glance she looks like a young boy. In drag.

That's rather nasty. I could get quite upset about that comment. Alex
is lovely. I won't hear another nasty thing said about her / him / it.
Cuteness has no sexual parts anyway.

--
td

On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 20:06:27 +0100, Langis wrote:


I realise you live in a quarry surrounded by sheep,

You've been stalking me again?

note that more
technically advanced areas of the United Kingdom now have cable, note,
note.

At least I got out of Manchester. I have a fancy wireless ADSL router
at home and not two cans and a piece of string, you will be pleased to
note. Not so much as a "ping" has got as far as ZoneAlarm since. Heck,
they probably have cable at Guantanamo Bay but I don'twant to go
there.

On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 21:51:20 +0100, The Devil wrote:

On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 16:40:57 GMT, ow
(Goofball_star_dot_etal) wrote:

Well, I did in the end but I am kind of in love with Carolynne.

I suppose I should post a link for the poor Yanks. . .
http://www.bbc.co.uk/fameacademy/

I thought Carolynne had a pretty good voice at times, you will note.
The Fleetwood Mac song she did a few weeks back was extraordinary.

Alex has something. Her voice needs work, but I really think she has a
future. I found her second performance, in which she sang her own
composition, rather moving, I will note. Plus I want to keep her in my
pocket, I will also note, here, there, everywhere.


Let us hope the sausage machine does not ruin her.

Back to renovating Telly Savalas Towers.


We don't have those in Wales.

--
td

Have you moved to Ireland as threatened?

On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 21:22:24 GMT, ow
(Goofball_star_dot_etal) wrote:

Alex has something. Her voice needs work, but I really think she has a
future. I found her second performance, in which she sang her own
composition, rather moving, I will note. Plus I want to keep her in my
pocket, I will also note, here, there, everywhere.

Let us hope the sausage machine does not ruin her.

I don't think she likes sausage, note. I think she would prefer
Carolynne's banana split.

Back to renovating Telly Savalas Towers.


We don't have those in Wales.

--
td

Have you moved to Ireland as threatened?

Next year. I haven't finished selling fish and chips to England, pal.

On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 00:00:08 +0100, The Devil wrote:

I don't think she likes sausage, note. I think she would prefer
Carolynne's banana split.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/fameacademy/photo/photo1079.shtml

--
td

On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 23:26:32 +0100, Langis wrote:

[Troll /on]

Disgraceful.

I can't bring myself to quote it.

Shame on you.

SMACK!

--
td

"trotsky" wrote in message
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jeffc wrote:
"Robert Morein" wrote in message
...

"George M. Middius" wrote in message
. ..


Bobo, barbeque season has ended.


The grills don't make any significant change in time alignment.

Doesn't it depend whether they're charcoal or gas, indoor or
outdoor?


I have this pinhead killfiled, so it would be nice if no one even quoted
him.

Which of the two pinheads are you referring to?

I was referring to Middius. I can't recall a single post of his that was
remotely interesting or useful.

jcrud said:

I was referring to Middius. I can't recall a single post of his that was
remotely interesting or useful.

I think it would be interesting to introduce you to Arnii Kroofeces.
Would you like to do that? Most people would rather shovel ****
barehanded, but then you are not most people.

Goofball_star_dot_etal wrote:
On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 18:14:54 +0100, The Devil wrote:


On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 21:12:06 GMT, ow
(Goofball_star_dot_etal) wrote:


Vote Carolynne!

No! Vote Alex! I want to wrap her up in cotton wool and keep her in my
pocket, note.

--
td


Well, I did in the end but I am kind of in love with Carolynne.

I suppose I should post a link for the poor Yanks. . .



What do you mean "the poor Yanks"--they just trounced the Twins!

jeffc wrote:
"trotsky" wrote in message
...


jeffc wrote:

"Robert Morein" wrote in message
...


"George M. Middius" wrote in message
m...


Bobo, barbeque season has ended.



The grills don't make any significant change in time alignment.

Doesn't it depend whether they're charcoal or gas, indoor or
outdoor?

I have this pinhead killfiled, so it would be nice if no one even quoted
him.

Which of the two pinheads are you referring to?


I was referring to Middius. I can't recall a single post of his that was
remotely interesting or useful.



I see, and you can from the mind of Bob Morion? I doubt you're serious.

trotsky said:

I was referring to Middius.

I see, and you can from the mind of Bob Morion? I doubt you're serious.

Oh no! Are you more afraid of Bobo now? That distress me, Mommy****er.

trotsky said:

I was referring to Middius.

I see, and you can from the mind of Bob Morion? I doubt you're serious.

Oh no! Are you more afraid of Bobo now? That distresses me,
Mommy****er.

"trotsky" wrote in message
...


Which of the two pinheads are you referring to?

I was referring to Middius. I can't recall a single post of his that
was
remotely interesting or useful.

I see, and you can from the mind of Bob Morion? I doubt you're serious.

I can what? Middius is killfiled. What's so hard to believe about that?
It's hard to believe all the bull**** in this group. The same people have
been doing nothing but call each other names for years. I look in on the
group every year or so and it's no different. Zipser is dead. Some people
will be doing the same old stupid **** untily they're dead. It's really
pathetic.

"jeffc" wrote in message
...

"trotsky" wrote in message
...


Which of the two pinheads are you referring to?

I was referring to Middius. I can't recall a single post of his that
was
remotely interesting or useful.

I see, and you can from the mind of Bob Morion? I doubt you're serious.

I can what? Middius is killfiled. What's so hard to believe about that?
It's hard to believe all the bull**** in this group. The same people have
been doing nothing but call each other names for years. I look in on the
group every year or so and it's no different. Zipser is dead. Some
people
will be doing the same old stupid **** untily they're dead. It's really
pathetic.



And you'll still be doing the same thing till you're dead.
Lurking, killfiling, and occasionally whining.




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On 6/10/03 14:45, in article ,
"jeffc" wrote:

I look in on the
group every year or so and it's no different. Zipser is dead. Some people
will be doing the same old stupid **** untily they're dead. It's really
pathetic.

Well I'm sorry my pathetic son has become the major instigator here.


Sylvan Morein, DDS

http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/l...ws/4853918.htm

Doctoral student takes intellectual property case to Supreme Court
By L. STUART DITZEN
Philadelphia Inquirer

PHILADELPHIA -Even the professors who dismissed him from a doctoral program
at Drexel University agreed that Robert Morein was uncommonly smart.

They apparently didn't realize that he was uncommonly stubborn too - so much
so that he would mount a court fight all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court
to challenge his dismissal.

The Supremes have already rejected this appeal, btw.

"It's a personality trait I have - I'm a tenacious guy," said Morein, a
pleasantly eccentric man regarded by friends as an inventive genius. "And we
do come to a larger issue here."

An "inventive genius" that has never invented anything. And hardly
"pleasantly" eccentric.

A five-year legal battle between this unusual ex-student and one of
Philadelphia's premier educational institutions has gone largely unnoticed
by the media and the public.

Because no one gives a **** about a 50 year old loser.

But it has been the subject of much attention in academia.

Drexel says it dismissed Morein in 1995 because he failed, after eight
years, to complete a thesis required for a doctorate in electrical and
computer engineering.

Not to mention the 12 years it took him to get thru high school!
BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


Morein, 50, of Dresher, Pa., contends that he was dismissed only after his
thesis adviser "appropriated" an innovative idea Morein had developed in a
rarefied area of thought called "estimation theory" and arranged to have it
patented.

A contention rejected by three courts. From a 50 YEAR OLD that has
done NOTHING PRODUCTIVE with his life.


In February 2000, Philadelphia Common Pleas Court Judge Esther R. Sylvester
ruled that Morein's adviser indeed had taken his idea.

An idea that was worth nothing, because it didn't work. Just like
Robert Morein, who has never worked a day in his life.


Sylvester held that Morein had been unjustly dismissed and she ordered
Drexel to reinstate him or refund his tuition.

Funnily enough, Drexel AGREED to reinstate Morein, who rejected the
offer because he knew he was and IS a failed loser. Spending daddy's
money to cover up his lack of productivity.

That brought roars of protest from the lions of academia. There is a long
tradition in America of noninterference by the courts in academic decisions.

Backed by every major university in Pennsylvania and organizations
representing thousands of others around the country, Drexel appealed to the
state Superior Court.

The appellate court, by a 2-1 vote, reversed Sylvester in June 2001 and
restored the status quo. Morein was, once again, out at Drexel. And the
time-honored axiom that courts ought to keep their noses out of academic
affairs was reasserted.

The state Supreme Court declined to review the case and, in an ordinary
litigation, that would have been the end of it.

But Morein, in a quixotic gesture that goes steeply against the odds, has
asked the highest court in the land to give him a hearing.

Daddy throws more money down the crapper.

His attorney, Faye Riva Cohen, said the Supreme Court appeal is important
even if it fails because it raises the issue of whether a university has a
right to lay claim to a student's ideas - or intellectual property - without
compensation.

"Any time you are in a Ph.D. program, you are a serf, you are a slave," said
Cohen. Morein "is concerned not only for himself. He feels that what
happened to him is pretty common."

It's called HIGHER EDUCATION, honey. The students aren't in charge,
the UNIVERSITY and PROFESSORS are.


Drexel's attorney, Neil J. Hamburg, called Morein's appeal - and his claim
that his idea was stolen - "preposterous."

"I will eat my shoe if the Supreme Court hears this case," declared Hamburg.
"We're not even going to file a response. He is a brilliant guy, but his
intelligence should be used for the advancement of society rather than
pursuing self-destructive litigation."

No **** sherlock.

The litigation began in 1997, when Morein sued Drexel claiming that a
committee of professors had dumped him after he accused his faculty adviser,
Paul Kalata, of appropriating his idea.

His concept was considered to have potential value for businesses in
minutely measuring the internal functions of machines, industrial processes
and electronic systems.

The field of "estimation theory" is one in which scientists attempt to
calculate what they cannot plainly observe, such as the inside workings of a
nuclear plant or a computer.

My estimation theory? There is NO brain at work inside the head of
Robert Morein, only sawdust.


Prior to Morein's dismissal, Drexel looked into his complaint against Kalata
and concluded that the associate professor had done nothing wrong. Kalata,
through a university lawyer, declined to comment.

At a nonjury trial before Sylvester in 1999, Morein testified that Kalata in
1990 had posed a technical problem for him to study for his thesis. It
related to estimation theory.

Kalata, who did not appear at the trial, said in a 1998 deposition that a
Cherry Hill company for which he was a paid consultant, K-Tron
International, had asked him to develop an alternate estimation method for
it. The company manufactures bulk material feeders and conveyors used in
industrial processes.

Morein testified that, after much study, he experienced "a flash of
inspiration" and came up with a novel mathematical concept to address the
problem Kalata had presented.

Without his knowledge, Morein said, Kalata shared the idea with K-Tron.

K-Tron then applied for a patent, listing Kalata and Morein as co-inventors.

Morein said he agreed "under duress" to the arrangement, but felt "locked
into a highly disadvantageous situation." As a result, he testified, he
became alienated from Kalata.

As events unfolded, Kalata signed over his interest in the patent to K-Tron.
The company never capitalized on the technology and eventually allowed the
patent to lapse. No one made any money from it.

Because it was bogus. Even Kalata was mortified that he was a victim
of this SCAMSTER, Robert Morein.

In 1991, Morein went to the head of Drexel's electrical engineering
department, accused Kalata of appropriating his intellectual property, and
asked for a new faculty adviser.

The staff at Drexel laughed wildly at the ignorance of Robert Morein.

He didn't get one. Instead, a committee of four professors, including
Kalata, was formed to oversee Morein's thesis work.

Four years later, the committee dismissed him, saying he had failed to
complete his thesis.

So Morein ****s up his first couple years, gets new faculty advisers
(a TEAM), and then ****s up again! Brilliant!


Morein claimed that the committee intentionally had undermined him.

Morein makes LOTS of claims that are nonsense. One look thru the
usenet proves it.


Judge Sylvester agreed. In her ruling, Sylvester wrote: "It is this court's
opinion that the defendants were motivated by bad faith and ill will."

So much for political machine judges.

The U.S. Supreme Court receives 7,000 appeals a year and agrees to hear only
about 100 of them.

Hamburg, Drexel's attorney, is betting the high court will reject Morein's
appeal out of hand because its focal point - concerning a student's right to
intellectual property - was not central to the litigation in the
Pennsylvania courts.

Morein said he understands it's a long shot, but he feels he must pursue it.

Just like all the failed "causes" Morein pursues. Heck, he's been
chasing another "Brian McCarty" for years and yet has ZERO impact on
anything.

Failure. Look it up in Websters. You'll see a picture of Robert
Morein. The poster boy for SCAMMING LOSERS.


"I had to seek closure," he said.

Without a doctorate, he said, he has been unable to pursue a career he had
hoped would lead him into research on artificial intelligence.

Who better to tell us about "artificial intelligence".
BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


As it is, Morein lives at home with his father and makes a modest income
from stock investments. He has written a film script that he is trying to
make into a movie. And in the basement of his father's home he is working on
an invention, an industrial pump so powerful it could cut steel with a
bulletlike stream of water.


FAILED STUDENT
FAILED MOVIE MAKER
FAILED SCREENWRITER
FAILED INVESTOR
FAILED DRIVER
FAILED SON
FAILED PARENTS
FAILED INVENTOR
FAILED PLAINTIFF
FAILED HOMOSEXUAL
FAILED HUMAN
FAILED
FAILED

But none of it is what he had imagined for himself.

"I don't really have a replacement career," Morein said. "It's a very
gnawing thing."

George M. Middius wrote:


trotsky said:


I was referring to Middius.


I see, and you can from the mind of Bob Morion? I doubt you're serious.


Oh no! Are you more afraid of Bobo now? That distress me, Mommy****er.



George, you're spazzing again. Clearly you're distressed by the Roy
Horn situation.

jeffc wrote:

"trotsky" wrote in message
...

Which of the two pinheads are you referring to?

I was referring to Middius. I can't recall a single post of his that

was

remotely interesting or useful.

I see, and you can from the mind of Bob Morion? I doubt you're serious.


I can what?



You can what what? Can you or can you not find something "remotely
interesting or useful" from the mind of Bob Morion?



Middius is killfiled. What's so hard to believe about that?


We're not talking about him right now. Are you a sockpuppet, by the
way, or just another anonymouse?


It's hard to believe all the bull**** in this group.


Agreed.


The same people have
been doing nothing but call each other names for years. I look in on the
group every year or so and it's no different. Zipser is dead.



I guess that's one less in your "same people" theory, then.


Some people
will be doing the same old stupid **** untily they're dead. It's really
pathetic.



I agree. Some people, for example, no matter how many times you ask
them the same direct question, can't even figure out what the subject
matter is! Don't you just hate that?

On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 00:00:08 +0100, The Devil wrote:

On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 21:22:24 GMT, ow
(Goofball_star_dot_etal) wrote:

Have you moved to Ireland as threatened?

Next year. I haven't finished selling fish and chips to England, pal.

I will note that the unmentionables floating down the Avoca river will
be more novel and frequent in years to come. . .

On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 23:32:58 +0100, Langis wrote:

(Goofball_star_dot_etal) wrote:

I realise you live in a quarry surrounded by sheep,

You've been stalking me again?

Have you noticed that slightly oversized sheep?


Heck, I have probably had it. Don't you remember?

note that more

At least I got out of Manchester. I have a fancy wireless ADSL router
at home and not two cans and a piece of string, you will be pleased to
note. Not so much as a "ping" has got as far as ZoneAlarm since. Heck,
they probably have cable at Guantanamo Bay but I don'twant to go
there.

Manchester is a lovely place. Why would you want to leave that for the
grotty countryside. Pah!



I suppose there are McDonald's where there used to be bomb craters. I
just wish I had stayed to see it. . .

On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 18:07:23 GMT, ow
(Goofball_star_dot_etal) wrote:

I will note that the unmentionables floating down the Avoca river will
be more novel and frequent in years to come. . .

Just say no to mother****ing heavy metal poisoning.

--
td

"trotsky" wrote in message
. net...
jeffc wrote:

"trotsky" wrote in message
...

Which of the two pinheads are you referring to?

I was referring to Middius. I can't recall a single post of his that

was

remotely interesting or useful.

I see, and you can from the mind of Bob Morion? I doubt you're
serious.


I can what?

You can what what?

Can you read? It says "you can from the mind of...", whatever the hell
that's supposed to mean.

Middius is killfiled. What's so hard to believe about that?

We're not talking about him right now.

That's exactly who I was talking about.

j**** said:

We're not talking about him right now.

That's exactly who I was talking about.

Ugh. Please get me out of your thoughts.

jeffc wrote:
"trotsky" wrote in message
. net...

jeffc wrote:


"trotsky" wrote in message
...


Which of the two pinheads are you referring to?

I was referring to Middius. I can't recall a single post of his that

was


remotely interesting or useful.

I see, and you can from the mind of Bob Morion? I doubt you're

serious.


I can what?

You can what what?


Can you read? It says "you can from the mind of...", whatever the hell
that's supposed to mean.



What happened to the rest of the post, "jeff"? Are you a troll?

"trotsky" wrote in message
...


What happened to the rest of the post, "jeff"? Are you a troll?

Who are you and what is your major malfunction? Why is the discussion
happening?
plonk

jeffc wrote:
"trotsky" wrote in message
...


What happened to the rest of the post, "jeff"? Are you a troll?


Who are you and what is your major malfunction? Why is the discussion
happening?
plonk


Uh oh, I think I broke jeffcy.