Topic this week is charging systems. Last thread was great (please feel
free to post more if it is related) fellas lets keep it going.

The charging system is probably the most important subsystem in a car
audio setup. Alternators, batteries, capacitors. Where do they all fit
in? Amperage - someone needs to explain this one. Well go nuts guys, we
got a lot to cover this week.

EFFENDI


p.s. ICE is possibly going on the web. probably with an index of old
threads. let me know if anyone would like to see this.

What are the benfits of Capacitors in a car audio system, I know they used
as storage devices. But in most the posts where people ask if they should
get one they are told to stay away from them and rather upgrade their
altenator?

Thanks
PoNDeR

"EFFENDI" wrote in message
...
Topic this week is charging systems. Last thread was great

rest of the **** snipped

Lemme ask. What in the **** is this ice topic of the week ****? Is it like,
a way for n00bs to feel not so dumb when posting stupid questions, and then
for people like TWFER and Durbin to waste their keystrokes explaining stuff?
Someone please explain this to me, and why groups.google.com isn't a better
alternative to find all the ****ing info you would ever need regarding
anything car audio, by typing in your question and searching rec.audio.car,
since it's all been asked and answered. I swear. You could make a billion
dollars and kill usenet by teaching google to retards.


narcolept
-----
If you think I was referring to you specifically when you read this and get
to the retards part, whoever you are, I probably was..

narcolept wrote:
"EFFENDI" wrote in message
...

Topic this week is charging systems. Last thread was great


rest of the **** snipped

Lemme ask. What in the **** is this ice topic of the week ****? Is it like,
a way for n00bs to feel not so dumb when posting stupid questions, and then
for people like TWFER and Durbin to waste their keystrokes explaining stuff?
Someone please explain this to me, and why groups.google.com isn't a better
alternative to find all the ****ing info you would ever need regarding
anything car audio, by typing in your question and searching rec.audio.car,
since it's all been asked and answered. I swear. You could make a billion
dollars and kill usenet by teaching google to retards.


narcolept
-----
If you think I was referring to you specifically when you read this and get
to the retards part, whoever you are, I probably was..



narcolept. basically yes it is an educational thread. im trying to bring
a sense of welcomeness to new users and if they are dumb, this is a way
for them to learn something. if you dont have anything to contribute to
this effort just ignore the thread and feel free to post your rambling
somewhere else. ICE will continue and the response that i have recieved
from other users on this newsgroup has been very positive. yes google
groups is available. the purpose of ICE is to bring that information to
the newsgroup. hopefully in an effort to refresh some of the older
members and to teach the new ones. if you dont like it its too bad. ICE
is here to stay.

EFFENDI

..snip old quotes

narcolept. basically yes it is an educational thread. im trying to bring
a sense of welcomeness to new users and if they are dumb, this is a way
for them to learn something. if you dont have anything to contribute to
this effort just ignore the thread and feel free to post your rambling
somewhere else. ICE will continue and the response that i have recieved
from other users on this newsgroup has been very positive. yes google
groups is available. the purpose of ICE is to bring that information to
the newsgroup. hopefully in an effort to refresh some of the older
members and to teach the new ones. if you dont like it its too bad. ICE
is here to stay.

EFFENDI


damn. you should've been here a few years ago. FOR SURE you would've made
the list. So... those ESL classes are paying off for you, huh? Now that
you've learned to type, take the level 2 on punctuation and capitalization.
As well, if google groups are available, you don't have to bring the
information to the newsgroup because it's already there. What would,
however, be very helpful, would be if you titled all your posts "I am an
asshat" and just typed "groups.google.com, it's been asked and answered over
4 billion times".. That would give you some sort of usefulness, and you
wouldn't have to get so touchy over a post on lil ol' usenet



narcolept
---
someone just made themselves my new favorite bitch

Effendi,

Maybe we can just delete Narcolept's posts? What a jerk. Maybe he just had
a bad day? Apparently he hasn't been involved with the past ICEs and all
the positive responses you received from long-time group posters. Even
though I am not a newbie, I learned some too. Keep up the good work.

I implore everyone to disregard Narcosleepy's posts!!!

Tony


--


What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the
universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that
he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't
have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact
"EFFENDI" wrote in message
...
Topic this week is charging systems. Last thread was great (please feel
free to post more if it is related) fellas lets keep it going.

The charging system is probably the most important subsystem in a car
audio setup. Alternators, batteries, capacitors. Where do they all fit
in? Amperage - someone needs to explain this one. Well go nuts guys, we
got a lot to cover this week.

EFFENDI


p.s. ICE is possibly going on the web. probably with an index of old
threads. let me know if anyone would like to see this.

Anyone who wants to give this Narcolept character a hard time can report him
to

Attach a copy of his post so they have all his info to track him and
evidence of his childish behavior.



"narcolept" wrote in message
et...
.snip old quotes

narcolept. basically yes it is an educational thread. im trying to bring
a sense of welcomeness to new users and if they are dumb, this is a way
for them to learn something. if you dont have anything to contribute to
this effort just ignore the thread and feel free to post your rambling
somewhere else. ICE will continue and the response that i have recieved
from other users on this newsgroup has been very positive. yes google
groups is available. the purpose of ICE is to bring that information to
the newsgroup. hopefully in an effort to refresh some of the older
members and to teach the new ones. if you dont like it its too bad. ICE
is here to stay.

EFFENDI


damn. you should've been here a few years ago. FOR SURE you would've made
the list. So... those ESL classes are paying off for you, huh? Now that
you've learned to type, take the level 2 on punctuation and
capitalization.
As well, if google groups are available, you don't have to bring the
information to the newsgroup because it's already there. What would,
however, be very helpful, would be if you titled all your posts "I am an
asshat" and just typed "groups.google.com, it's been asked and answered
over
4 billion times".. That would give you some sort of usefulness, and you
wouldn't have to get so touchy over a post on lil ol' usenet



narcolept
---
someone just made themselves my new favorite bitch

Elliot wrote:
Anyone who wants to give this Narcolept character a hard time can report him
to

Attach a copy of his post so they have all his info to track him and
evidence of his childish behavior.

That sounds pretty childish to me. Can't you go crawl back under your rock?

Whats wrong with childish behaviour????

Are you the FKin internet police?

Are we CENSORING the internet now?

Do you think you OWN RAC???

Elliot wrote:

Anyone who wants to give this Narcolept character a hard time can report him
to

Attach a copy of his post so they have all his info to track him and
evidence of his childish behavior.

"Eddie Runner" wrote in message
...
Whats wrong with childish behaviour????

Are you the FKin internet police?

Are we CENSORING the internet now?

Do you think you OWN RAC???


eddie. they're trying to include me as a subdivision of the next "ban sancho
from da intarweb!" petition. Didn't you know? You can't tell any little kid
in R.A.C that they're an idiot, dumb****, queefstain, or are mildly retarded
anymore. It's against the rules, because apparently they run the show now
and have the right to censor free speech and expression of one's views on
usenet


narcolept
-----
knows TWFER is gonna get going over the free speech thing.

Tony Fernandes wrote:
Effendi,

Maybe we can just delete Narcolept's posts? What a jerk. Maybe he just had
a bad day? Apparently he hasn't been involved with the past ICEs and all
the positive responses you received from long-time group posters. Even
though I am not a newbie, I learned some too. Keep up the good work.

I implore everyone to disregard Narcosleepy's posts!!!

Tony


--


What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the
universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that
he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't
have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact
"EFFENDI" wrote in message
...

Topic this week is charging systems. Last thread was great (please feel
free to post more if it is related) fellas lets keep it going.

The charging system is probably the most important subsystem in a car
audio setup. Alternators, batteries, capacitors. Where do they all fit
in? Amperage - someone needs to explain this one. Well go nuts guys, we
got a lot to cover this week.

EFFENDI


p.s. ICE is possibly going on the web. probably with an index of old
threads. let me know if anyone would like to see this.


Thank you Tony. Real people appreciate the effort I am trying to make
and it just proves how something like ICE sahould continue. There is a
definite lack of maturity in someones posts (Narcolepsy) that really
show how people do not change even though they claim to be one of the
OGs of r.a.c. The fact is you are just an asshole Narcolepsy, yeah I'm
calling you out because you are asking for it. Everyone else knows it.
Everyone is learning from ICE and thats it. Like I said before if it
bothers you so much just ignore it and let the rest of us have an
opportunity to learn and discuss. Learn more about something I have a
great passion for. I dont know if you share the same interest and just
want to make life miserable by runing an otherwise worthwhile, harmless,
educational thread, but I suggest you do it somewhere else before
accusing me of trying to run the show here. Even if I did I could do a
better job than your narrow ass is trying to do.

SO can we please get back to the original topic?



EFFENDI

"EFFENDI" wrote in message
...
learn to snip
Thank you Tony. Real people appreciate the effort I am trying to make
and it just proves how something like ICE sahould continue. There is a
definite lack of maturity in someones posts (Narcolepsy) that really
show how people do not change even though they claim to be one of the
OGs of r.a.c. The fact is you are just an asshole Narcolepsy, yeah I'm
calling you out because you are asking for it. Everyone else knows it.
Everyone is learning from ICE and thats it. Like I said before if it
bothers you so much just ignore it and let the rest of us have an
opportunity to learn and discuss. Learn more about something I have a
great passion for. I dont know if you share the same interest and just
want to make life miserable by runing an otherwise worthwhile, harmless,
educational thread, but I suggest you do it somewhere else before
accusing me of trying to run the show here. Even if I did I could do a
better job than your narrow ass is trying to do.

SO can we please get back to the original topic?



ok. the nick is narcolept. not narcolepsy, you make yourself look even lamer
by doing that. You're calling me out? hah. Listen, kid. You aren't the
first person in the history of R.A.C to think they know more than other
people here, and not the first to fancy themselves something special because
of same lame thread. They were here long before you, and the same types of
asshats will be here long after you're gone. I haven't learned a thing from
ICE other than the fact that you will go to great lenghts, well beyong
making yourself look like a ****stick to protect your silly little thread.


narcolept
----
as if this is the first person on r.a.c that ever decided they were gonna
start some **** with me for one reason or another.

ok. the nick is narcolept. not narcolepsy, you make yourself look even
lamer
by doing that.


He did it on purpose.


You're calling me out? hah. Listen, kid. You aren't the
first person in the history of R.A.C to think they know more than other
people here, and not the first to fancy themselves something special
because
of same lame thread.


He never said he knew more than anyone. He strarted these threads so that a
eneral topic of discussion would be opened for people that don't kave a good
working knowledge of that topic.


They were here long before you, and the same types of
asshats will be here long after you're gone.


Like you I'd imagine.


I haven't learned a thing from
ICE other than the fact that you will go to great lenghts, well beyong
making yourself look like a ****stick to protect your silly little thread.


As I said thiese threads aren't for everyone, mostly people that are new
into car audio. Why you think threads like this are "silly" is beyond me.
I'm sure you had to learn it from someone. If they'd have treated you like
you're treating these threads you'd likely know as much as a lot of the
people on here asking questions.



Paul Vina

"Paul Vina" wrote in message
news:7_pxb.324551$Tr4.997085@attbi_s03...

ok. the nick is narcolept. not narcolepsy, you make yourself look even
lamer
by doing that.


He did it on purpose.


You're calling me out? hah. Listen, kid. You aren't the
first person in the history of R.A.C to think they know more than other
people here, and not the first to fancy themselves something special
because
of same lame thread.


He never said he knew more than anyone. He strarted these threads so that
a
eneral topic of discussion would be opened for people that don't kave a
good
working knowledge of that topic.


They were here long before you, and the same types of
asshats will be here long after you're gone.


Like you I'd imagine.


I haven't learned a thing from
ICE other than the fact that you will go to great lenghts, well beyong
making yourself look like a ****stick to protect your silly little
thread.


As I said thiese threads aren't for everyone, mostly people that are new
into car audio. Why you think threads like this are "silly" is beyond me.
I'm sure you had to learn it from someone. If they'd have treated you
like
you're treating these threads you'd likely know as much as a lot of the
people on here asking questions.



Paul Vina


so let me ask again. why have threads like this that rehash stuff that has
been discussed to absolute ****ing death here, when groups.google.com has
all the information any newbie could ever need, right from here.

These are the reasons why R.A.C is looked at as n00bland by people
everywhere. It's the same basic newbie discussion day in and day out,
nothing other than basic newbie topics are discussed. If instead of having
threads to relive everything that has ever been discussed here, newbs used
google to find their answers and people actually talked about something
worthwile rather than how to wire subs in series 4x a day, it might not be
such a lame place to be


narcolept
----
hell, web forums blow, and most web forums have 999x the worthwile
discussion as r.a.c

"Narcosleepy" wrote: "These are the reasons why R.A.C is looked at as
n00bland by people everywhere. It's the same basic newbie discussion day in
and day out,
nothing other than basic newbie topics are discussed. If instead of having
threads to relive everything that has ever been discussed here, newbs used
google to find their answers and people actually talked about something
worthwile rather than how to wire subs in series 4x a day, it might not be
such a lame place to be."

If this place is so lame, then I for one hope you stay out of it. I
understand you're very disapointed with this newsgroup, but I don't see how
you're making it any better!! I'd much rather read 4 posts a day about
wiring subs in series than some immature person throwing a temper trantrum
from the anonymity of their computer desk.


Tony



What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the
universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that
he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't
have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact

These are the reasons why R.A.C is looked at as n00bland by people
everywhere. It's the same basic newbie discussion day in and day out,
nothing other than basic newbie topics are discussed. If instead of having
threads to relive everything that has ever been discussed here, newbs used
google to find their answers and people actually talked about something
worthwile rather than how to wire subs in series 4x a day, it might not be
such a lame place to be


What else is there to talk about on here? Eddie having to build steel
reinforcements for his toilet seat?

"Mark Zarella" wrote in message
.. .
These are the reasons why R.A.C is looked at as n00bland by people
everywhere. It's the same basic newbie discussion day in and day out,
nothing other than basic newbie topics are discussed. If instead of
having
threads to relive everything that has ever been discussed here, newbs
used
google to find their answers and people actually talked about something
worthwile rather than how to wire subs in series 4x a day, it might not
be
such a lame place to be


What else is there to talk about on here? Eddie having to build steel
reinforcements for his toilet seat?


Hey. If it's more interesting, then I guess we'll have to make due with
that... Maybe we can teach him how to build them better, since he's been
rebuilding toilet seat reinforcements for 10 years now... Maybe save the
man some time...


narcolept
----
wondering what the spl level reaches in TWFER's toilet.

"Tony Fernandes" wrote in message
...
"Narcosleepy" wrote: "These are the reasons why R.A.C is looked at as
n00bland by people everywhere. It's the same basic newbie discussion day
in
and day out,
nothing other than basic newbie topics are discussed. If instead of
having
threads to relive everything that has ever been discussed here, newbs used
google to find their answers and people actually talked about something
worthwile rather than how to wire subs in series 4x a day, it might not be
such a lame place to be."

If this place is so lame, then I for one hope you stay out of it. I
understand you're very disapointed with this newsgroup, but I don't see
how
you're making it any better!! I'd much rather read 4 posts a day about
wiring subs in series than some immature person throwing a temper trantrum
from the anonymity of their computer desk.


Tony




A temper tantrum, huh? You're acting like I'm new here. The truth is no
where near that, but think what you will. There was a time when R.A.C was a
useful place full of intelligent minds, now it's a shell of it's former self
full of newbs and pseudo-"experts"


narcolept
----
yes. I'm right, you're wrong. bite me.

"narcolept" wrote: "A temper tantrum, huh? You're acting like I'm new here.
The truth is no where near that, but think what you will. There was a time
when R.A.C was a useful place full of intelligent minds, now it's a shell of
it's former self full of newbs and pseudo-[experts]".

Well, if you're not new here and think that RAC can be a better place, then
I implore you to use your powers of seniority to help restore this place to
its days of glory, instead of cussing and complaining and ruining it for the
rest of us.

Or, start a "RAC sucks" thread so I know to avoid it and others that are
interested in why RAC sucks can read it. But don't whore decent threads.
Please.

BTW, I don't mind it when you discuss your opinions in a civilized manner,
it was just those first few posts you wrote.

Tony


--


What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the
universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that
he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't
have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact
"narcolept" wrote in message
et...

"Tony Fernandes" wrote in message
...
"Narcosleepy" wrote: "These are the reasons why R.A.C is looked at as
n00bland by people everywhere. It's the same basic newbie discussion day
in
and day out,
nothing other than basic newbie topics are discussed. If instead of
having
threads to relive everything that has ever been discussed here, newbs
used
google to find their answers and people actually talked about something
worthwile rather than how to wire subs in series 4x a day, it might not
be
such a lame place to be."

If this place is so lame, then I for one hope you stay out of it. I
understand you're very disapointed with this newsgroup, but I don't see
how
you're making it any better!! I'd much rather read 4 posts a day about
wiring subs in series than some immature person throwing a temper
trantrum
from the anonymity of their computer desk.


Tony




A temper tantrum, huh? You're acting like I'm new here. The truth is no
where near that, but think what you will. There was a time when R.A.C was
a
useful place full of intelligent minds, now it's a shell of it's former
self
full of newbs and pseudo-"experts"


narcolept
----
yes. I'm right, you're wrong. bite me.

Damn that was wrong! Funny, but wrong!


Paul Vina



"Mark Zarella" wrote in message
.. .
These are the reasons why R.A.C is looked at as n00bland by people
everywhere. It's the same basic newbie discussion day in and day out,
nothing other than basic newbie topics are discussed. If instead of
having
threads to relive everything that has ever been discussed here, newbs
used
google to find their answers and people actually talked about something
worthwile rather than how to wire subs in series 4x a day, it might not
be
such a lame place to be


What else is there to talk about on here? Eddie having to build steel
reinforcements for his toilet seat?

narcolept wrote:

ok. the nick is narcolept. not narcolepsy, you make yourself look even lamer
by doing that.

I thought it was funny!
the guy may not be so lame as you think he is... ha ha
I love a sense of humor... ;-)

Eddie

"Eddie Runner" wrote in message
...
narcolept wrote:

ok. the nick is narcolept. not narcolepsy, you make yourself look even
lamer
by doing that.

I thought it was funny!
the guy may not be so lame as you think he is... ha ha
I love a sense of humor... ;-)

Eddie



intentional misspellings are funny when they actually pertain to a person.
narcolepsy refers to a thing, not a person. Like, changing "sancho" to
"sacklicker" is funny, and oddly, appropriate. Just remember Eddie. You love
me more


narcolept
----
Of course, not as much as he'll love any one of you for a movie and box o'
wine.

"narcolept" wrote in message
et...

Lemme ask. What in the **** is this ice topic of the week ****?

i figured he was just another cocktaster trying to STEAL the knowledge
represented here to use on some half-assed pop-up ridden get rich quick
site...
--
sancho

"sancho" tR-003.at.ev1.dot.net wrote in message
...

"narcolept" wrote in message
et...

Lemme ask. What in the **** is this ice topic of the week ****?

i figured he was just another cocktaster trying to STEAL the knowledge
represented here to use on some half-assed pop-up ridden get rich quick
site...
--
sancho



like uhm.. install doctor when that site first showed up and spammed the
**** out of r.a.c?


narcolept
-----
that site didn't have any actual diagrams for like a year after it was up,
either.