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"Richard Crowley" wrote in message ... Indeed. Alas, there isn't a similar acronym for 4-pole. TRRS anyone? It's usual just to talk about the pin size (eg 3.5mm) and the number of connectors. So a 4 pole, 3.5 mm plug is common on video camera's for example. Not a major problem that I can see. You do need to be a bit more careful when describing the pin connections though I guess. TRRS certainly wouldn't help there! MrT. |
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In the power/low frequency signal world, the sex of the connector is
determined by the outer shell. Female shells are sockets or jacks (ever wonder why a female shell is a jack and not a jill?). Male shells are plugs. In the RF world, the sex of the connector is determined by the center pin. Jim -- "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." --Aristotle |
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"RST Engineering (jw)" wrote in message m... In the power/low frequency signal world, the sex of the connector is determined by the outer shell. Female shells are sockets or jacks (ever wonder why a female shell is a jack and not a jill?). Male shells are plugs. Citation? Since *many* connectors use the same *shell* for male and female, it would be rather a pointless definition IMO. So what exactly differentiates a female cord mount phone "jack" *shell* from a male phone plug *shell* then? And your differentiation between male and female D connector cord shells would be really interesting to know. (everyone else considers them identical) Or is it just your definition of *shell* that is non standard? MrT. |
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On Mon 23-Mar-2009 22:41, Michael A. Terrell
wrote: Andre Majorel wrote: Don't have any usage statistics handy but I know that when I read "phono" I have to stop and think what it might be. Creative spelling for "phone jack" ? The actual device ? Something else ? Oh, you meant an "RCA" or "Cinch" ? Why not write that, then ? Other than the fact that RCA developed the connectors for its add on 45 RPM record changers? They sold radios with the mating connector, and added a switch to the existing radio designs so people could buy the changer, only if they needed it. Cinch had nothing to do with the original connector design. RCA probably developed several connectors. If one says "RCA" then I imagine that is just a short form of "RCA phono". Why should we pander to those with feeble minds? |
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On Tue 24-Mar-2009 01:29, Mr.T MrT@home wrote:
"Paul B" wrote in message ... With XLR connectors, there are male and female connectors but it is the female connector which is inserted into the male one. No, when describing connectors as male or female, it is the conductor pins that define it. The pins of a male XLR "insert" into the sockets of a female, regardless of whether they are cord or panel mount. Trying to insert a socket "into" a pin would require more than a big hammer :-) MrT. He quoted the Wiki. Maybe that's wrong? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Xlr-connectors.jpg |
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john wrote: RCA probably developed several connectors. If one says "RCA" then I imagine that is just a short form of "RCA phono". Then show us another connector from RCA that became common as dirt. -- http://improve-usenet.org/index.html Goggle Groups, and Web TV users must request to be white listed, or I will not see your messages. If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm |
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"David Nebenzahl" wrote in message s.com... On 3/24/2009 1:21 PM Eeyore spake thus: Standard nomeclature for the same connector, In the USA and probably Canada, an RCA jack, in the UK and affiliated countries a Phono plug, in mainland Europe a Cinch connector. No; jack is female, plug is male. So either a RCA plug or a phono plug. Please don't let's further confuse gender here. -- So a 1/4" Jack is female? Funny ladies you've known........ S. -- http://audiopages.googlepages.com |
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In article , "Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
john wrote: RCA probably developed several connectors. If one says "RCA" then I imagine that is just a short form of "RCA phono". Then show us another connector from RCA that became common as dirt. I don't know who made it. One connector that was dirt common, was that screw on connector with center push against contactor. Seems like most old amateur radio microphones used to use it, as well as test equipment. http://www.oaktreeent.com/web_photos...erator_web.jpg What was that called ?? greg |
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On 3/24/2009 1:21 PM Eeyore spake thus:
Standard nomeclature for the same connector, In the USA and probably Canada, an RCA jack, in the UK and affiliated countries a Phono plug, in mainland Europe a Cinch connector. No; jack is female, plug is male. So either a RCA plug or a phono plug. Please don't let's further confuse gender here. -- Made From Pears: Pretty good chance that the product is at least mostly pears. Made With Pears: Pretty good chance that pears will be detectable in the product. Contains Pears: One pear seed per multiple tons of product. (with apologies to Dorothy L. Sayers) |
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"GregS" wrote in message ... In article , "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: john wrote: RCA probably developed several connectors. If one says "RCA" then I imagine that is just a short form of "RCA phono". Then show us another connector from RCA that became common as dirt. I don't know who made it. One connector that was dirt common, was that screw on connector with center push against contactor. Seems like most old amateur radio microphones used to use it, as well as test equipment. http://www.oaktreeent.com/web_photos...erator_web.jpg What was that called ?? greg That looks like an F connector. S. - http://audiopages.googlepages.com |
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"Serge Auckland" wrote ...
"GregS" wrote ... "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: john wrote: RCA probably developed several connectors. If one says "RCA" then I imagine that is just a short form of "RCA phono". Then show us another connector from RCA that became common as dirt. I don't know who made it. One connector that was dirt common, was that screw on connector with center push against contactor. Seems like most old amateur radio microphones used to use it, as well as test equipment. http://www.oaktreeent.com/web_photos...erator_web.jpg What was that called ?? That looks like an F connector. It is rather larger than an F connector. The outside threads are 5/8 inch x 27 TPI (same as the US microphone stands) And IIRC, that connector was originated by Amphenol. Here is info about the Switchcraft versions... http://www.switchcraft.com/products/connectors-53b.html |
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On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:40:35 +0000, Serge Auckland wrote:
"David Nebenzahl" wrote in message On 3/24/2009 1:21 PM Eeyore spake thus: Standard nomeclature for the same connector, In the USA and probably Canada, an RCA jack, in the UK and affiliated countries a Phono plug, in mainland Europe a Cinch connector. No; jack is female, plug is male. So either a RCA plug or a phono plug. Please don't let's further confuse gender here. So a 1/4" Jack is female? Funny ladies you've known........ The Yang can hang, or go In to the Yin. ;-) http://z.about.com/d/taoism/1/0/0/-/-/-/yinYang.gif Hope This Helps! Rich |
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"Richard Crowley" wrote in message ... "Serge Auckland" wrote ... "GregS" wrote ... "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: john wrote: RCA probably developed several connectors. If one says "RCA" then I imagine that is just a short form of "RCA phono". Then show us another connector from RCA that became common as dirt. I don't know who made it. One connector that was dirt common, was that screw on connector with center push against contactor. Seems like most old amateur radio microphones used to use it, as well as test equipment. http://www.oaktreeent.com/web_photos...erator_web.jpg What was that called ?? That looks like an F connector. It is rather larger than an F connector. The outside threads are 5/8 inch x 27 TPI (same as the US microphone stands) And IIRC, that connector was originated by Amphenol. Here is info about the Switchcraft versions... http://www.switchcraft.com/products/connectors-53b.html Yes, I remember I have seen those, but can't think of the name. Switchcraft 2501 doesn't trip off the tongue lightly. S. -- http://audiopages.googlepages.com |
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"john" wrote in message ... On Tue 24-Mar-2009 01:29, Mr.T MrT@home wrote: No, when describing connectors as male or female, it is the conductor pins that define it. The pins of a male XLR "insert" into the sockets of a female, regardless of whether they are cord or panel mount. Trying to insert a socket "into" a pin would require more than a big hammer :-) He quoted the Wiki. Maybe that's wrong? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Xlr-connectors.jpg That photo clearly states the male on right, so would agree with my statement surely? MrT. |
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"Serge Auckland" wrote in message ... I don't know who made it. One connector that was dirt common, was that screw on connector with center push against contactor. Seems like most old amateur radio microphones used to use it, as well as test equipment. http://www.oaktreeent.com/web_photos...Signal-Generat or_web.jpg What was that called ?? That looks like an F connector. Nope, looks more like a PL259. MrT. |
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Serge Auckland wrote:
"Richard Crowley" wrote in message ... "Serge Auckland" wrote ... "GregS" wrote ... "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: john wrote: RCA probably developed several connectors. If one says "RCA" then I imagine that is just a short form of "RCA phono". Then show us another connector from RCA that became common as dirt. I don't know who made it. One connector that was dirt common, was that screw on connector with center push against contactor. Seems like most old amateur radio microphones used to use it, as well as test equipment. http://www.oaktreeent.com/web_photos...erator_web.jpg What was that called ?? That looks like an F connector. It is rather larger than an F connector. The outside threads are 5/8 inch x 27 TPI (same as the US microphone stands) And IIRC, that connector was originated by Amphenol. Here is info about the Switchcraft versions... http://www.switchcraft.com/products/connectors-53b.html Yes, I remember I have seen those, but can't think of the name. Switchcraft 2501 doesn't trip off the tongue lightly. S. Back in the day, we used to order them as Amphenol MC connectors. You can still get 'em today. -- Regards, Stephen D. Barnes |
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"Mr.T" wrote: "Serge Auckland" wrote in message ... I don't know who made it. One connector that was dirt common, was that screw on connector with center push against contactor. Seems like most old amateur radio microphones used to use it, as well as test equipment. http://www.oaktreeent.com/web_photos...Signal-Generat or_web.jpg What was that called ?? That looks like an F connector. Nope, looks more like a PL259. Some people would cut most of the center pin off a PL259 and use it with a 'microphone connector'. Not a good idea, but they bragged about saving 50 cents on the right plug, by destroying a $1.25 plug. -- http://improve-usenet.org/index.html Goggle Groups, and Web TV users must request to be white listed, or I will not see your messages. If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm |
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"Stephen D. Barnes" wrote: Back in the day, we used to order them as Amphenol MC connectors. You can still get 'em today. Amphenol sold that line off to WPI several years ago, and it looks like Cooper Group bought that product line and renamed it COOPER INTERCONNECT. A lot of older Amphenol products were dropped each time. -- http://improve-usenet.org/index.html Goggle Groups, and Web TV users must request to be white listed, or I will not see your messages. If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm |
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fudgee logic wrote:
Is this the correct understanding for naming conventions of plugs and adapters: (1) A lead which has a phono plug at each end can be referred to as "phono plug to phono plug" lead. That much is ok. (2) But is an adaptor (or coupler) which has a phono socket at each end referred to as "phono socket to phono socket" adaptor (or coupler)? I've heard of a cable with male at one end and female at the other as an extension cable. Your #2 could be called a female to female adapter cable. -- Paul Hovnanian ------------------------------------------------------------------ In the force if Yoda's so strong, construct a sentence with words in the proper order then why can't he? |
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On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:06:48 +1100, "Mr.T" MrT@home wrote:
"Serge Auckland" wrote in message ... I don't know who made it. One connector that was dirt common, was that screw on connector with center push against contactor. Seems like most old amateur radio microphones used to use it, as well as test equipment. http://www.oaktreeent.com/web_photos...Signal-Generat or_web.jpg What was that called ?? That looks like an F connector. Nope, looks more like a PL259. --- Nope, a PL259 is an Amphenol series UHF connector. What it is is an Amphenol 80-75-MC1F and what screws onto it is an 80-75-PC1M. JF |
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On Wed 25-Mar-2009 18:06, Michael A. Terrell
wrote: john wrote: RCA probably developed several connectors. If one says "RCA" then I imagine that is just a short form of "RCA phono". Then show us another connector from RCA that became common as dirt. That's my point too! .... that the "RCA phono" connector was so common that it could be called "RCA" almost unambiguously. On the other hand, "RCA" probably wouldn't be the correct formal name if there were other RCA connectors. |
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john wrote: On Wed 25-Mar-2009 18:06, Michael A. Terrell wrote: john wrote: RCA probably developed several connectors. If one says "RCA" then I imagine that is just a short form of "RCA phono". Then show us another connector from RCA that became common as dirt. That's my point too! .... that the "RCA phono" connector was so common that it could be called "RCA" almost unambiguously. Do whatever you want, but some of us stick to proper names. I deal with vendors who use the proper nomenclature when I need parts. I think that if they don't know the proper name, they don't really know what they are selling. On the other hand, "RCA" probably wouldn't be the correct formal name if there were other RCA connectors. -- http://improve-usenet.org/index.html Goggle Groups, and Web TV users must request to be white listed, or I will not see your messages. If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm |
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David Nebenzahl wrote: On 3/24/2009 1:21 PM Eeyore spake thus: Standard nomeclature for the same connector, In the USA and probably Canada, an RCA jack, in the UK and affiliated countries a Phono plug, in mainland Europe a Cinch connector. No; jack is female, plug is male. So either a RCA plug or a phono plug. Please don't let's further confuse gender here. Well I've certainly heard them called RCA jacks. Maybe they meant the mating part ? Just to confuse you, in the UK the 1/4" guitar style connector is called a 'jack plug'. Graham |
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Serge Auckland wrote: "David Nebenzahl" wrote On 3/24/2009 1:21 PM Eeyore spake thus: Standard nomeclature for the same connector, In the USA and probably Canada, an RCA jack, in the UK and affiliated countries a Phono plug, in mainland Europe a Cinch connector. No; jack is female, plug is male. So either a RCA plug or a phono plug. Please don't let's further confuse gender here. So a 1/4" Jack is female? Funny ladies you've known........ Entirely possible. I got a pop-up on some web page to a 'ladyboy' site. You would never have told they were male with their clothes on, some looked very attractive in fact. Graham |
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On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:48:29 +0000, Eeyore
wrote: Just to confuse you, in the UK the 1/4" guitar style connector is called a 'jack plug'. Well that's ok. It is a plug that goes into a jack - adjective and noun. No problem. d |
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"Eeyore" wrote in message ... Serge Auckland wrote: "David Nebenzahl" wrote On 3/24/2009 1:21 PM Eeyore spake thus: Standard nomeclature for the same connector, In the USA and probably Canada, an RCA jack, in the UK and affiliated countries a Phono plug, in mainland Europe a Cinch connector. No; jack is female, plug is male. So either a RCA plug or a phono plug. Please don't let's further confuse gender here. So a 1/4" Jack is female? Funny ladies you've known........ Entirely possible. I got a pop-up on some web page to a 'ladyboy' site. You would never have told they were male with their clothes on, some looked very attractive in fact. Graham If you ever go to Paris, (France, not Texas) and you drive along the Bois de Boulogne at night, there's a whole display of Lady-boys there. Stunning women even though they're definitely boys. This thread has moved away from Jacks........ S. -- http://audiopages.googlepages.com |
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On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:59:17 -0000, "Serge Auckland"
wrote: If you ever go to Paris, (France, not Texas) and you drive along the Bois de Boulogne at night, there's a whole display of Lady-boys there. Stunning women even though they're definitely boys. This thread has moved away from Jacks........ Apparently now it is about Jacques. Just look at their feet - size nines are always a dead giveaway. d |
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"Don Pearce" wrote in message news:49d3e1a8.107034031@localhost... On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:59:17 -0000, "Serge Auckland" wrote: If you ever go to Paris, (France, not Texas) and you drive along the Bois de Boulogne at night, there's a whole display of Lady-boys there. Stunning women even though they're definitely boys. This thread has moved away from Jacks........ Apparently now it is about Jacques. Just look at their feet - size nines are always a dead giveaway. d Too busy looking elsewhere....Boys don't have to wear tops in the street........ S. -- http://audiopages.googlepages.com |
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"Serge Auckland" wrote in
: This thread has moved away from Jacks........ Unless you count One Eyed Jack's. |
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"Don Pearce" wrote in message news:49d3e1a8.107034031@localhost... Apparently now it is about Jacques. Just look at their feet - size nines are always a dead giveaway. Nope, there are women who have bigger feet than that. (and men with smaller feet of course) The first thing to look for is the Adams apple, but that's not foolproof either :-) MrT. |
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"Mr.T" wrote ...
"Don Pearce" wrote ... Apparently now it is about Jacques. Just look at their feet - size nines are always a dead giveaway. Nope, there are women who have bigger feet than that. (and men with smaller feet of course) The first thing to look for is the Adams apple, but that's not foolproof either :-) "Crocodile Dundee" had his own foolproof method in the movie. (Although you are likely to get assulted for trying that method. ) But those Australians really know how to get right to the bottom line. No foolin' around or guessing. :-) |
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"Richard Crowley" wrote in message ... "Crocodile Dundee" had his own foolproof method in the movie. (Although you are likely to get assulted for trying that method. ) Or arrested. But those Australians really know how to get right to the bottom line. No foolin' around or guessing. :-) Of course he was the only one who didn't already know :-) MrT. |
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On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:51:00 +0000, Eeyore wrote:
Serge Auckland wrote: "David Nebenzahl" wrote No; jack is female, plug is male. So either a RCA plug or a phono plug. Please don't let's further confuse gender here. So a 1/4" Jack is female? Funny ladies you've known........ Entirely possible. I got a pop-up on some web page to a 'ladyboy' site. You would never have told they were male with their clothes on, some looked very attractive in fact. And, what the hell, a blow job's a blow job! ;-P Cheers! Rich |
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On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:48:29 +0000, Eeyore wrote:
David Nebenzahl wrote: On 3/24/2009 1:21 PM Eeyore spake thus: Standard nomeclature for the same connector, In the USA and probably Canada, an RCA jack, in the UK and affiliated countries a Phono plug, in mainland Europe a Cinch connector. No; jack is female, plug is male. So either a RCA plug or a phono plug. Please don't let's further confuse gender here. Well I've certainly heard them called RCA jacks. Maybe they meant the mating part ? Just to confuse you, in the UK the 1/4" guitar style connector is called a 'jack plug'. That's because it's the plug that plugs into the jack, silly! ;-) Cheers! Rich |
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