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  #61  
Old September 2nd 20, 12:53 AM posted to rec.audio.pro
Les Cargill[_5_]
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Trevor wrote:
> On 1/09/2020 1:37 pm, geoff wrote:
>> On 1/09/2020 2:03 pm, Les Cargill wrote:
>>> Trevor wrote:
>>>> On 31/08/2020 3:35 am, Les Cargill wrote:
>>>>> The thing that makes it worse is that there really were "reds under
>>>>> (some) bed(s)." It wasn't as bad in the US as in Britain, where the
>>>>> Bloomsbury Group contained at least one asset of the KGB.
>>>>>
>>>>> HUAC was a deeply anti-Semitic thing and as hapless an effort that's
>>>>> been attempted.
>>>>
>>>> Such a shame they never worried about the Fascists under the beds
>>>> like they did the Communists.
>>>
>>> Fascists weren't on record as having as goal unhorsing the American
>>> government.

>
> Of course they weren't going after themselves!
>
>
>>> I'd also say there never was a serious American Fascist movement;

>
> HaHa, only half of the USA would think Trump is not a Fascist!


Count me in that half, then. The guy's a reality TV star that
ran. He's not even a fascist. Then again, practically nobody is.


> Wonder
> what they thought Hitler was?
>
>
>>> there was a Communist one. Even American nationalism worked
>>> very differently from European nationalism. Of course there were
>>> nominally roght wing things, but they were quite different - someone
>>> could have fought Nazis and been say, a Bircher without skipping a beat.
>>>

>>
>> True, but what is pretty 'normal' outlook on life in the USA is
>> considered to have many right-wing aspects by much of the world. And
>> it seems anything even vaguely approaching what much of the world
>> would consider as 'middle-of-the-road' (and that is approaching from
>> the right-hand side !) gets described as 'far-left' or communist by
>> the currently most vociferous.

>
> It's always worked a treat for the fascists to call every one else
> Communists. Especially since hardly anybody even knows what a socialist
> is,


Exactly. Same problem.

> thinks they are communists, and thinks Fascism is better than
> communism, and by extension socialism.
> But I think this may have gone a bit off topic!!! :-)
>
>
>
>


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  #62  
Old September 2nd 20, 07:59 AM posted to rec.audio.pro
Trevor
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On 2/09/2020 9:53 am, Les Cargill wrote:
> Trevor wrote:
>> On 1/09/2020 1:37 pm, geoff wrote:
>>> On 1/09/2020 2:03 pm, Les Cargill wrote:
>>>> Trevor wrote:
>>>>> On 31/08/2020 3:35 am, Les Cargill wrote:
>>>>>> The thing that makes it worse is that there really were "reds
>>>>>> under (some) bed(s)." It wasn't as bad in the US as in Britain,
>>>>>> where the
>>>>>> Bloomsbury Group contained at least one asset of the KGB.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HUAC was a deeply anti-Semitic thing and as hapless an effort that's
>>>>>> been attempted.
>>>>>
>>>>> Such a shame they never worried about the Fascists under the beds
>>>>> like they did the Communists.
>>>>
>>>> Fascists weren't on record as having as goal unhorsing the American
>>>> government.

>>
>> Of course they weren't going after themselves!
>>
>>
>>>> I'd also say there never was a serious American Fascist movement;

>>
>> HaHa, only half of the USA would think Trump is not a Fascist!

>
> Count me in that half, then. The guy's a reality TV star that
> ran. He's not even a fascist. Then again, practically nobody is.
>


Trump has copied Hitler's playbook almost exactly to the letter, except
for declaring war on Poland and killing himself in his bunker. (we can
yet hope for the latter though) So I guess you don't think Hitler was a
Fascist either then? Everyone has their own definition I guess, but evil
is still evil whatever you want to call it!!


  #63  
Old September 2nd 20, 08:34 AM posted to rec.audio.pro
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On 2/09/2020 6:59 pm, Trevor wrote:
> On 2/09/2020 9:53 am, Les Cargill wrote:
>> Trevor wrote:
>>> On 1/09/2020 1:37 pm, geoff wrote:
>>>> On 1/09/2020 2:03 pm, Les Cargill wrote:
>>>>> Trevor wrote:
>>>>>> On 31/08/2020 3:35 am, Les Cargill wrote:
>>>>>>> The thing that makes it worse is that there really were "reds
>>>>>>> under (some) bed(s)." It wasn't as bad in the US as in Britain,
>>>>>>> where the
>>>>>>> Bloomsbury Group contained at least one asset of the KGB.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HUAC was a deeply anti-Semitic thing and as hapless an effort that's
>>>>>>> been attempted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Such a shame they never worried about the Fascists under the beds
>>>>>> like they did the Communists.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fascists weren't on record as having as goal unhorsing the American
>>>>> government.
>>>
>>> Of course they weren't going after themselves!
>>>
>>>
>>>>> I'd also say there never was a serious American Fascist movement;
>>>
>>> HaHa, only half of the USA would think Trump is not a Fascist!

>>
>> Count me in that half, then. The guy's a reality TV star that
>> ran. He's not even a fascist. Then again, practically nobody is.
>>

>
> Trump has copied Hitler's playbook almost exactly to the letter, except
> for declaring war on Poland and killing himself in his bunker. (we can
> yet hope for the latter though) So I guess you don't think Hitler was a
> Fascist either then? Everyone has their own definition I guess, but evil
> is still evil whatever you want to call it!!
>
>


Evil or just extreme ****witery ? Probably both.

If an audio producer he would demand mixes to the lowest common
denominator - compressed to ****, over-loud, over-tempo, EQed both
booming and screeching, illogical irrational and offensive lyrics, and
appealing to the least sophisticated (but significant, sadly ....) audience.

..... just to steer thread towards On Topic !

geoff
  #64  
Old September 2nd 20, 11:38 AM posted to rec.audio.pro
Chris K-Man
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Default Anything you think was consistently done better in the past inthe pro/commercial recording world than how it's done today?

On Wednesday, September 2, 2020 at 3:34:33 AM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
> On 2/09/2020 6:59 pm, Trevor wrote:
> > On 2/09/2020 9:53 am, Les Cargill wrote:
> >> Trevor wrote:
> >>> On 1/09/2020 1:37 pm, geoff wrote:
> >>>> On 1/09/2020 2:03 pm, Les Cargill wrote:
> >>>>> Trevor wrote:
> >>>>>> On 31/08/2020 3:35 am, Les Cargill wrote:
> >>>>>>> The thing that makes it worse is that there really were "reds
> >>>>>>> under (some) bed(s)." It wasn't as bad in the US as in Britain,
> >>>>>>> where the
> >>>>>>> Bloomsbury Group contained at least one asset of the KGB.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> HUAC was a deeply anti-Semitic thing and as hapless an effort that's
> >>>>>>> been attempted.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Such a shame they never worried about the Fascists under the beds
> >>>>>> like they did the Communists.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Fascists weren't on record as having as goal unhorsing the American
> >>>>> government.
> >>>
> >>> Of course they weren't going after themselves!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> I'd also say there never was a serious American Fascist movement;
> >>>
> >>> HaHa, only half of the USA would think Trump is not a Fascist!
> >>
> >> Count me in that half, then. The guy's a reality TV star that
> >> ran. He's not even a fascist. Then again, practically nobody is.
> >>

> >
> > Trump has copied Hitler's playbook almost exactly to the letter, except
> > for declaring war on Poland and killing himself in his bunker. (we can
> > yet hope for the latter though) So I guess you don't think Hitler was a
> > Fascist either then? Everyone has their own definition I guess, but evil
> > is still evil whatever you want to call it!!
> >
> >

> Evil or just extreme ****witery ? Probably both.
>
> If an audio producer he would demand mixes to the lowest common
> denominator - compressed to ****, over-loud, over-tempo, EQed both
> booming and screeching, illogical irrational and offensive lyrics, and
> appealing to the least sophisticated (but significant, sadly ....) audience.
>
> .... just to steer thread towards On Topic !
>
> geoff

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  #65  
Old September 2nd 20, 04:35 PM posted to rec.audio.pro
david gourley[_6_]
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Chris K-Man >
:

> On Wednesday, September 2, 2020 at 3:34:33 AM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
>> On 2/09/2020 6:59 pm, Trevor wrote:
>> > On 2/09/2020 9:53 am, Les Cargill wrote:
>> >> Trevor wrote:
>> >>> On 1/09/2020 1:37 pm, geoff wrote:
>> >>>> On 1/09/2020 2:03 pm, Les Cargill wrote:
>> >>>>> Trevor wrote:
>> >>>>>> On 31/08/2020 3:35 am, Les Cargill wrote:
>> >>>>>>> The thing that makes it worse is that there really were "reds
>> >>>>>>> under (some) bed(s)." It wasn't as bad in the US as in Britain,
>> >>>>>>> where the
>> >>>>>>> Bloomsbury Group contained at least one asset of the KGB.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> HUAC was a deeply anti-Semitic thing and as hapless an effort
>> >>>>>>> that's been attempted.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Such a shame they never worried about the Fascists under the
>> >>>>>> beds like they did the Communists.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Fascists weren't on record as having as goal unhorsing the
>> >>>>> American government.
>> >>>
>> >>> Of course they weren't going after themselves!
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>> I'd also say there never was a serious American Fascist movement;
>> >>>
>> >>> HaHa, only half of the USA would think Trump is not a Fascist!
>> >>
>> >> Count me in that half, then. The guy's a reality TV star that
>> >> ran. He's not even a fascist. Then again, practically nobody is.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Trump has copied Hitler's playbook almost exactly to the letter,
>> > except for declaring war on Poland and killing himself in his bunker.
>> > (we can yet hope for the latter though) So I guess you don't think
>> > Hitler was a Fascist either then? Everyone has their own definition I
>> > guess, but evil is still evil whatever you want to call it!!
>> >
>> >

>> Evil or just extreme ****witery ? Probably both.
>>
>> If an audio producer he would demand mixes to the lowest common
>> denominator - compressed to ****, over-loud, over-tempo, EQed both
>> booming and screeching, illogical irrational and offensive lyrics, and
>> appealing to the least sophisticated (but significant, sadly ....)
>> audience.
>>
>> .... just to steer thread towards On Topic !
>>
>> geoff

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>
> Thank you for saying what when I say it, I get a bot on my
> tail!
>


I take it that you didn't get the humour of his remark !

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  #66  
Old September 3rd 20, 04:28 AM posted to rec.audio.pro
Trevor
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On 2/09/2020 5:34 pm, geoff wrote:
> On 2/09/2020 6:59 pm, Trevor wrote:
>> On 2/09/2020 9:53 am, Les Cargill wrote:
>>> Trevor wrote:
>>>> On 1/09/2020 1:37 pm, geoff wrote:
>>>>> On 1/09/2020 2:03 pm, Les Cargill wrote:
>>>>>> Trevor wrote:
>>>>>>> On 31/08/2020 3:35 am, Les Cargill wrote:
>>>>>>>> The thing that makes it worse is that there really were "reds
>>>>>>>> under (some) bed(s)." It wasn't as bad in the US as in Britain,
>>>>>>>> where the
>>>>>>>> Bloomsbury Group contained at least one asset of the KGB.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HUAC was a deeply anti-Semitic thing and as hapless an effort
>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>>> been attempted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Such a shame they never worried about the Fascists under the beds
>>>>>>> like they did the Communists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fascists weren't on record as having as goal unhorsing the
>>>>>> American government.
>>>>
>>>> Of course they weren't going after themselves!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> I'd also say there never was a serious American Fascist movement;
>>>>
>>>> HaHa, only half of the USA would think Trump is not a Fascist!
>>>
>>> Count me in that half, then. The guy's a reality TV star that
>>> ran. He's not even a fascist. Then again, practically nobody is.
>>>

>>
>> Trump has copied Hitler's playbook almost exactly to the letter,
>> except for declaring war on Poland and killing himself in his bunker.
>> (we can yet hope for the latter though) So I guess you don't think
>> Hitler was a Fascist either then? Everyone has their own definition I
>> guess, but evil is still evil whatever you want to call it!!
>>

>
> Evil or just extreme ****witery ? Probably both.


Definitely both!!! :-(


> If an audio producer he would demand mixes to the lowest common
> denominator - compressed to ****, over-loud, over-tempo, EQed both
> booming and screeching, illogical irrational and offensive lyrics, and
> appealing to the least sophisticated (but significant, sadly ....)
> audience.
>
> .... just to steer thread towards On Topic !


Very good! :-)

  #67  
Old September 5th 20, 03:14 AM posted to rec.audio.pro
Les Cargill[_5_]
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Trevor wrote:
> On 2/09/2020 9:53 am, Les Cargill wrote:
>> Trevor wrote:
>>> On 1/09/2020 1:37 pm, geoff wrote:
>>>> On 1/09/2020 2:03 pm, Les Cargill wrote:
>>>>> Trevor wrote:
>>>>>> On 31/08/2020 3:35 am, Les Cargill wrote:
>>>>>>> The thing that makes it worse is that there really were "reds
>>>>>>> under (some) bed(s)." It wasn't as bad in the US as in Britain,
>>>>>>> where the
>>>>>>> Bloomsbury Group contained at least one asset of the KGB.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HUAC was a deeply anti-Semitic thing and as hapless an effort that's
>>>>>>> been attempted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Such a shame they never worried about the Fascists under the beds
>>>>>> like they did the Communists.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fascists weren't on record as having as goal unhorsing the American
>>>>> government.
>>>
>>> Of course they weren't going after themselves!
>>>
>>>
>>>>> I'd also say there never was a serious American Fascist movement;
>>>
>>> HaHa, only half of the USA would think Trump is not a Fascist!

>>
>> Count me in that half, then. The guy's a reality TV star that
>> ran. He's not even a fascist. Then again, practically nobody is.
>>

>
> Trump has copied Hitler's playbook almost exactly to the letter, except
> for declaring war on Poland and killing himself in his bunker. (we can
> yet hope for the latter though) So I guess you don't think Hitler was a
> Fascist either then?


Of course he was. Trump's simply nothing like Hitler.

I can only recommend Shirer's book and move on.

> Everyone has their own definition I guess, but evil
> is still evil whatever you want to call it!!
>
>


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  #68  
Old September 5th 20, 03:38 AM posted to rec.audio.pro
Les Cargill[_5_]
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Default Anything you think was consistently done better in the past inthe pro/commercial recording world than how it's done today?

geoff wrote:
> On 2/09/2020 6:59 pm, Trevor wrote:
>> On 2/09/2020 9:53 am, Les Cargill wrote:
>>> Trevor wrote:
>>>> On 1/09/2020 1:37 pm, geoff wrote:
>>>>> On 1/09/2020 2:03 pm, Les Cargill wrote:
>>>>>> Trevor wrote:
>>>>>>> On 31/08/2020 3:35 am, Les Cargill wrote:
>>>>>>>> The thing that makes it worse is that there really were "reds
>>>>>>>> under (some) bed(s)." It wasn't as bad in the US as in Britain,
>>>>>>>> where the
>>>>>>>> Bloomsbury Group contained at least one asset of the KGB.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HUAC was a deeply anti-Semitic thing and as hapless an effort
>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>>> been attempted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Such a shame they never worried about the Fascists under the beds
>>>>>>> like they did the Communists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fascists weren't on record as having as goal unhorsing the
>>>>>> American government.
>>>>
>>>> Of course they weren't going after themselves!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> I'd also say there never was a serious American Fascist movement;
>>>>
>>>> HaHa, only half of the USA would think Trump is not a Fascist!
>>>
>>> Count me in that half, then. The guy's a reality TV star that
>>> ran. He's not even a fascist. Then again, practically nobody is.
>>>

>>
>> Trump has copied Hitler's playbook almost exactly to the letter,
>> except for declaring war on Poland and killing himself in his bunker.
>> (we can yet hope for the latter though) So I guess you don't think
>> Hitler was a Fascist either then? Everyone has their own definition I
>> guess, but evil is still evil whatever you want to call it!!
>>
>>

>
> Evil or just extreme ****witery ? Probably both.
>
> If an audio producer he would demand mixes to the lowest common
> denominator - compressed to ****, over-loud, over-tempo, EQed both
> booming and screeching, illogical irrational and offensive lyrics, and
> appealing to the least sophisticated (but significant, sadly ....)
> audience.
>
> .... just to steer thread towards On Topic !
>
> geoff



Them Nazis invented them tape recorders. So there ya go, chief. After
all the traffic here must be in the dozens per week...

( sorry, I've read Trevor for years, and felt I owed him a bit
of perspective. My bad. I worry when people fall into those simple
tropes. )

William Shirer wrote "Rise and Fall" decades ago and it's a worthy book.

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