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I've been taping live concerts since 1985, video since 1988, and DAT since 1991. I just recently purchased a Panasonics AG-DVC30 pro camcorder, and the internal mic is so bad on it that I need to break down and buy a new mic. I have had some decent mics in the past- not Schoeps or anything but I had a pair of nice Nak 300's and I have some coresounds now. So, what I'm looking for is a single condenser stereo microphone that can be used with the camcorder and with my DAT. I know that most quality microphones are mono mics so my options are limited for an all-in-one stereo mic. I typically tape Indie and Punk Rock. I have done some research and I found the following: Rode NT4- The guy at Swee****er swears by this mic, but he has never taped concerts with it. I saw on a forum for one of the jam bands that this mic did not perform well- not bright enough. Anyone have any experience with this one? Sennheiser MKH418S: It's a shotgun mic, so it would be a pain to mount to the camcorder and they are not very stealthy in DAT situations. But, if the quality is right, I'll deal. Anyone with comments? Crown SASSPMKII: I just don't know about this one. The reviews are spectacular, but it is a PZM mic so I am afraid that it wont be directional enough in DAT situations. Also, it looks weird and plastic? Does anyone have any other suggestions? I'm looking to spend $1000 or less. Thanks, Shayne |
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DC wrote: wrote: Crown SASSPMKII: I just don't know about this one. The reviews are spectacular, but it is a PZM mic so I am afraid that it wont be directional enough in DAT situations. Also, it looks weird and plastic? A blast from the past! This is the only mic of the three that I've used extensively. The recordings I've done with this have been extremely realistic. The SASS-P is really a neat gadget. It's very immune to placement issues, and as such is a good mike for novices. You can toss it up just about anywhere and get away with it. It's never the best possible mike in a given situation, but it'll work in almost any. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:59:15 -0400, Geoff wrote
(in article ): wrote: Hi Everyone, I've been taping live concerts since 1985, video since 1988, and DAT since 1991. I just recently purchased a Panasonics AG-DVC30 pro camcorder, and the internal mic is so bad on it that I need to break down and buy a new mic. I have had some decent mics in the past- not Schoeps or anything but I had a pair of nice Nak 300's and I have some coresounds now. So, what I'm looking for is a single condenser stereo microphone that can be used with the camcorder and with my DAT. I know that most quality microphones are mono mics so my options are limited for an all-in-one stereo mic. I typically tape Indie and Punk Rock. I have done some research and I found the following: Rode NT4- The guy at Swee****er swears by this mic, but he has never taped concerts with it. I saw on a forum for one of the jam bands that this mic did not perform well- not bright enough. Anyone have any experience with this one? There is the new stereo RODE VideoMic... geoff A video of which (RodeSVM.mov) is in the video folder on my website. Regards, Ty Ford -- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric stuff are at www.tyford.com |
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shaynestacy wrote ...
I decided upon the VP-88. I loved that mic's results of some shows that I had from the chicago area from 1993/4. Sure, it's a bit bulky but it is versatile enough to go from camera to DAT. Thanks for the reminder- I totally forgot about that mic until you mentioned it! I have both a VP-88 and a Rode NT4. The VP-88 has the reputation of being noisy and brittle-sounding, and I would have to agree that I like the NT4 better |
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Richard Crowley wrote:
shaynestacy wrote ... I decided upon the VP-88. I loved that mic's results of some shows that I had from the chicago area from 1993/4. Sure, it's a bit bulky but it is versatile enough to go from camera to DAT. Thanks for the reminder- I totally forgot about that mic until you mentioned it! I have both a VP-88 and a Rode NT4. The VP-88 has the reputation of being noisy and brittle-sounding, and I would have to agree that I like the NT4 better The NT4 is pretty brittle-sounding too, though. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 13:03:47 -0400, Scott Dorsey wrote
(in article ): Richard Crowley wrote: shaynestacy wrote ... I decided upon the VP-88. I loved that mic's results of some shows that I had from the chicago area from 1993/4. Sure, it's a bit bulky but it is versatile enough to go from camera to DAT. Thanks for the reminder- I totally forgot about that mic until you mentioned it! I have both a VP-88 and a Rode NT4. The VP-88 has the reputation of being noisy and brittle-sounding, and I would have to agree that I like the NT4 better The NT4 is pretty brittle-sounding too, though. --scott Hmm, not when we put one up as a drum overhead a few years back. Pretty thick and fat when we got the placement right. To our pleasant surprise, it almost sounded like we had a compressor on it. Regards, Ty Ford -- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric stuff are at www.tyford.com |
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Just so you know, my reasons for choosing the VP-88: - When doing Single-camera rock video, you are typically not in a great part of the club, acoustics-wise. Many time I am on stage and am only picking up stage volume & monitors. The versatility of the VP-88 allows me to roll-off bass if needed and to record a greater stereo spectrum. The rode has none of those features. - I saw a forum where a guy said the rode was great for drums, but he tried it at a live show and was less than impressed. So, thanks again. The sales guy at Swee****er reassured me that the VP88 was the best way to go. He had originally offered the Rode but he said once he saw the versatility of the VP88 it made sense for my app. Shayne Ty Ford wrote: On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 13:03:47 -0400, Scott Dorsey wrote (in article ): Richard Crowley wrote: shaynestacy wrote ... I decided upon the VP-88. I loved that mic's results of some shows that I had from the chicago area from 1993/4. Sure, it's a bit bulky but it is versatile enough to go from camera to DAT. Thanks for the reminder- I totally forgot about that mic until you mentioned it! I have both a VP-88 and a Rode NT4. The VP-88 has the reputation of being noisy and brittle-sounding, and I would have to agree that I like the NT4 better The NT4 is pretty brittle-sounding too, though. --scott Hmm, not when we put one up as a drum overhead a few years back. Pretty thick and fat when we got the placement right. To our pleasant surprise, it almost sounded like we had a compressor on it. Regards, Ty Ford -- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric stuff are at www.tyford.com |
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Scott Dorsey wrote:
Richard Crowley wrote: shaynestacy wrote ... I decided upon the VP-88. I loved that mic's results of some shows that I had from the chicago area from 1993/4. Sure, it's a bit bulky but it is versatile enough to go from camera to DAT. Thanks for the reminder- I totally forgot about that mic until you mentioned it! I have both a VP-88 and a Rode NT4. The VP-88 has the reputation of being noisy and brittle-sounding, and I would have to agree that I like the NT4 better The NT4 is pretty brittle-sounding too, though. That's odd. NT4, 5, 55 don't seem to have that attribute from my eperience, or anything I've read anywhere. Had somebody accidently knocked an EQ up15dB ? geoff |
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