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Except that the oil belongs to *them*.
Hopefully they will get to sell it and beneift..are they able to drill, pump and so forth? John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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Blind Joni wrote: Except that the oil belongs to *them*. Hopefully they will get to sell it and beneift..are they able to drill, pump and so forth? It would be a bit easier if they could leave their houses without being killed. |
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Blind Joni wrote: Except that the oil belongs to *them*. Hopefully they will get to sell it and beneift..are they able to drill, pump and so forth? It would be a bit easier if they could leave their houses without being killed. |
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I'm sorry but you do appear lazy... why don't you *read a book*
instead of getting all your info from hearsay and the media, if you are really interested? You seem to know..I'm asking you..and my reading schedule is a little cramped right now. John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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I'm sorry but you do appear lazy... why don't you *read a book*
instead of getting all your info from hearsay and the media, if you are really interested? You seem to know..I'm asking you..and my reading schedule is a little cramped right now. John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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Hopefully they will get to sell it and beneift..are they able to drill,
pump and so forth? It would be a bit easier if they could leave their houses without being killed. I agree ..BUT..they couldn't do anything before either..so the oil was no good to them. Hopefully, eventually they will be able to use it for theri own well being. John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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Hopefully they will get to sell it and beneift..are they able to drill,
pump and so forth? It would be a bit easier if they could leave their houses without being killed. I agree ..BUT..they couldn't do anything before either..so the oil was no good to them. Hopefully, eventually they will be able to use it for theri own well being. John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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Ask them?
Most want the US to leave. I think we should leave as soon as possible. John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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Ask them?
Most want the US to leave. I think we should leave as soon as possible. John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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I didn't imply that other people are smarter than Americans. My point
was that people in many developing countries *directly experience* the negative impact of US foreign policy. And my point is that they assign blame for any "experience" to whatever they are told to believe..by governments that don't allow freedom of speech. I wouldn't say a very objective perspective..though no fault of the citizens. John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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I didn't imply that other people are smarter than Americans. My point
was that people in many developing countries *directly experience* the negative impact of US foreign policy. And my point is that they assign blame for any "experience" to whatever they are told to believe..by governments that don't allow freedom of speech. I wouldn't say a very objective perspective..though no fault of the citizens. John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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On 20 Sep 2004 21:01:38 GMT, (Blind Joni) wrote:
I didn't imply that other people are smarter than Americans. My point was that people in many developing countries *directly experience* the negative impact of US foreign policy. And my point is that they assign blame for any "experience" to whatever they are told to believe..by governments that don't allow freedom of speech. I wouldn't say a very objective perspective..though no fault of the citizens. Look, take a place like Jamaica, (a small country with which I have much experience). There isn't much government censorhip there. Jamaicans who were aware *knew* what the US and the CIA was doing down there in the 1970s and 1980s because they could see it with their own eyes. They didn't need to read a newspaper or watch TV. Kingston isn't that big of a town... You don't seem to understand that our government has been interfering with foreign *democracies* for decades. We mess with elected governments (if they don't see things our way), about as often as suck up to dictators, (if they control something we want). Are you aware that the US meddled with a democratic election in Australia not that long ago? Was behind the assasination of an elected president in Chile in the 1970s? Overthrew a democratically elected leader in Iran to install the Shah? http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/se...563746-3485548 Al |
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Blind Joni wrote: Ask them? Most want the US to leave. I think we should leave as soon as possible. Why not sooner? Getting any two people to agree on what's possible is a daunting task. Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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Blind Joni wrote: Ask them? Most want the US to leave. I think we should leave as soon as possible. Why not sooner? Getting any two people to agree on what's possible is a daunting task. Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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As usual, not a real answer anywhere, or even a semi-thoughtful reply.
Al On 21 Sep 2004 02:55:12 GMT, ospam (WillStG) wrote: playon Some hate us because we relentlessly exploit *their* resources for *our* gain, The buying you call stealing, right? Ok. others hate us because American pop culture tends to corrode and weaken their own. Britney, get over here and put on this Burka right now damn it! And all you gays and fornicators, line up over there, 'cause "everybody must get stoned".... The point is Will, you are totally deluded if you think that American is only seen as some kind of mythic light of freedom in the world. No doubt you have a master plan to "purify" American culture? Do you ever read any books, like say on the history of American foreign policy, the history of coloniolism, etc? Do you give a single goddamn about non-theoretical people buried in mass graves? Our "friends" don't love us so much lately, or haven't you noticed? Well you seem about the same to me, so.... Will Miho NY Music & TV Audio Guy Off the Morning Show! & sleepin' In... / Fox News "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits |
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As usual, not a real answer anywhere, or even a semi-thoughtful reply.
Al On 21 Sep 2004 02:55:12 GMT, ospam (WillStG) wrote: playon Some hate us because we relentlessly exploit *their* resources for *our* gain, The buying you call stealing, right? Ok. others hate us because American pop culture tends to corrode and weaken their own. Britney, get over here and put on this Burka right now damn it! And all you gays and fornicators, line up over there, 'cause "everybody must get stoned".... The point is Will, you are totally deluded if you think that American is only seen as some kind of mythic light of freedom in the world. No doubt you have a master plan to "purify" American culture? Do you ever read any books, like say on the history of American foreign policy, the history of coloniolism, etc? Do you give a single goddamn about non-theoretical people buried in mass graves? Our "friends" don't love us so much lately, or haven't you noticed? Well you seem about the same to me, so.... Will Miho NY Music & TV Audio Guy Off the Morning Show! & sleepin' In... / Fox News "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits |
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Here's the deal guys. rec.audio.misc is the perfect place to take up your OT
chats. As a growing number of others have told you, it don't belong here. Do us all a big favor and take it over there and please watch the cross posts. Thanks for keeping rec,audio.pro a nice place to talk about audio. Ty Ford On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:34:05 -0400, playon wrote (in article ): On 20 Sep 2004 19:34:30 GMT, (Blind Joni) wrote: I'm sorry but you do appear lazy... why don't you *read a book* instead of getting all your info from hearsay and the media, if you are really interested? You seem to know..I'm asking you..and my reading schedule is a little cramped right now. Well you could cut down on your online time... ;^) -- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric stuff are at www.tyford.com |
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Here's the deal guys. rec.audio.misc is the perfect place to take up your OT
chats. As a growing number of others have told you, it don't belong here. Do us all a big favor and take it over there and please watch the cross posts. Thanks for keeping rec,audio.pro a nice place to talk about audio. Ty Ford On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:34:05 -0400, playon wrote (in article ): On 20 Sep 2004 19:34:30 GMT, (Blind Joni) wrote: I'm sorry but you do appear lazy... why don't you *read a book* instead of getting all your info from hearsay and the media, if you are really interested? You seem to know..I'm asking you..and my reading schedule is a little cramped right now. Well you could cut down on your online time... ;^) -- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric stuff are at www.tyford.com |
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I think a lot of people in other countries realize that Bush is not that popular among Americans, Speak for yourself. I know a lot of americans that voted for Bush, and still support him. and know that he was not elected with the popular vote. However if he is re-elected I don't think they will be giving the average American as much slack, & why should they... You act as if Gore won the election by a landslide, when in fact it was a very close election.If you do not like the electoral vote, contact your congressman to have it repealed.Pretending nobody supports Bush, and everyone supports the opposition is only kidding yourself.Bush is still near 50% approval, which is how many people voted for him.Saying Bush is not that popular among americans is a blanket statement that can only be attributed to your support of the opposition, and not based on fact. Randall |
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I think a lot of people in other countries realize that Bush is not that popular among Americans, Speak for yourself. I know a lot of americans that voted for Bush, and still support him. and know that he was not elected with the popular vote. However if he is re-elected I don't think they will be giving the average American as much slack, & why should they... You act as if Gore won the election by a landslide, when in fact it was a very close election.If you do not like the electoral vote, contact your congressman to have it repealed.Pretending nobody supports Bush, and everyone supports the opposition is only kidding yourself.Bush is still near 50% approval, which is how many people voted for him.Saying Bush is not that popular among americans is a blanket statement that can only be attributed to your support of the opposition, and not based on fact. Randall |
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Randall Shawver wrote: Speak for yourself. I know a lot of americans that voted for Bush, and still support him. A lot of that has to do with geography. |
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Randall Shawver wrote: Speak for yourself. I know a lot of americans that voted for Bush, and still support him. A lot of that has to do with geography. |
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 18:34:39 GMT, Randall Shawver
wrote: I think a lot of people in other countries realize that Bush is not that popular among Americans, Speak for yourself. I know a lot of americans that voted for Bush, and still support him. I don't have to speak only for myself, since he did not win the popular vote, it's ovbious that most Americans did not wish him to be president. and know that he was not elected with the popular vote. However if he is re-elected I don't think they will be giving the average American as much slack, & why should they... You act as if Gore won the election by a landslide, when in fact it was a very close election. No, it's Bush and his supporters who act as if Bush has some kind of mandate, when he definitely does not. If you do not like the electoral vote, contact your congressman to have it repealed.Pretending nobody supports Bush, and everyone supports the opposition is only kidding yourself. Please quote where I said "nobody". I said "many" -- the truth seems to have stuck in your craw. Bush is still near 50% approval, Which means not even half of the people approve of him. Thanks for supporting my point. Al |
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 18:34:39 GMT, Randall Shawver
wrote: I think a lot of people in other countries realize that Bush is not that popular among Americans, Speak for yourself. I know a lot of americans that voted for Bush, and still support him. I don't have to speak only for myself, since he did not win the popular vote, it's ovbious that most Americans did not wish him to be president. and know that he was not elected with the popular vote. However if he is re-elected I don't think they will be giving the average American as much slack, & why should they... You act as if Gore won the election by a landslide, when in fact it was a very close election. No, it's Bush and his supporters who act as if Bush has some kind of mandate, when he definitely does not. If you do not like the electoral vote, contact your congressman to have it repealed.Pretending nobody supports Bush, and everyone supports the opposition is only kidding yourself. Please quote where I said "nobody". I said "many" -- the truth seems to have stuck in your craw. Bush is still near 50% approval, Which means not even half of the people approve of him. Thanks for supporting my point. Al |
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Don Cooper wrote:
Just like many leftist "true beleivers" duck I know. The AOL news reader doesn't know how to spell "believers". Hell, I'm still trying to figure out how a "q" in place of an "n" gets called a "typo". On a qwerty keyboard, the Q 7 the N are 4-1/2" apart (center to center) with no less than 7 keys in between them, & would be typed by different hands. On a Dvorak, they're even further apart. Spelling error? Maybe. Typo? Bull****! But then, as we all know, Will's NEVER wrong. If he says it's a typo, it MUST be a typo. NOT!! |
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Don Cooper wrote:
Just like many leftist "true beleivers" duck I know. The AOL news reader doesn't know how to spell "believers". Hell, I'm still trying to figure out how a "q" in place of an "n" gets called a "typo". On a qwerty keyboard, the Q 7 the N are 4-1/2" apart (center to center) with no less than 7 keys in between them, & would be typed by different hands. On a Dvorak, they're even further apart. Spelling error? Maybe. Typo? Bull****! But then, as we all know, Will's NEVER wrong. If he says it's a typo, it MUST be a typo. NOT!! |
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As usual, not a real answer anywhere, or even a semi-thoughtful reply.
Al No doubt you have a master plan to "purify" American culture? I thought this was a useful quuestion. Answer? John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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As usual, not a real answer anywhere, or even a semi-thoughtful reply.
Al No doubt you have a master plan to "purify" American culture? I thought this was a useful quuestion. Answer? John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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Speak for yourself. I know a lot of americans that voted for Bush, and
still support him. A lot of that has to do with geography. That's strange! Why would geographic area determinine your vote. John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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Speak for yourself. I know a lot of americans that voted for Bush, and
still support him. A lot of that has to do with geography. That's strange! Why would geographic area determinine your vote. John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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I know a lot of americans that voted for Bush, and
still support him. I don't have to speak only for myself, since he did not win the popular vote, it's ovbious that most Americans did not wish him to be president. Which doesn't matter as that is not what chooses the President..you already know that .. No, it's Bush and his supporters who act as if Bush has some kind of mandate, when he definitely does not. This is interesting. Would it be preferable to have a President who did what others wanted him to do..or one with a vision..either one you agree with or not? John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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I know a lot of americans that voted for Bush, and
still support him. I don't have to speak only for myself, since he did not win the popular vote, it's ovbious that most Americans did not wish him to be president. Which doesn't matter as that is not what chooses the President..you already know that .. No, it's Bush and his supporters who act as if Bush has some kind of mandate, when he definitely does not. This is interesting. Would it be preferable to have a President who did what others wanted him to do..or one with a vision..either one you agree with or not? John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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And my point is that they assign blame for any "experience" to whatever they
are told to believe..by governments that don't allow freedom of speech. I wouldn't say a very objective perspective..though no fault of the citizens. Look, take a place like Jamaica, (a small country with which I have much experience). There isn't much government censorhip there. Jamaicans who were aware *knew* what the US and the CIA was doing down there in the 1970s and 1980s because they could see it with their own eyes. They didn't need to read a newspaper or watch TV. Kingston isn't that big of a town... We're not talking about Jamaica..are we. We're talking about a big country with poor communication. ou don't seem to understand that our government has been interfering with foreign *democracies* for decades. We mess with elected governments (if they don't see things our way), about as often as suck up to dictators, (if they control something we want). Are you aware that the US meddled with a democratic election in Australia not that long ago? Was behind the assasination of an elected president in Chile in the 1970s? Overthrew a democratically elected leader in Iran to install the Shah? I get it. It just seems that governments have been doing this kind of stuff forever..but we seem to be the ultimate evil to some. I think that this is evidence of the belief held by many that humans have evolved into better humans in the last few hundred, thousand, whatever... years..but the evidence doesn't seem to show that. So what reality are we trying to deal with? The isolated, intellectual, and "enlightened" rarely make policy. John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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And my point is that they assign blame for any "experience" to whatever they
are told to believe..by governments that don't allow freedom of speech. I wouldn't say a very objective perspective..though no fault of the citizens. Look, take a place like Jamaica, (a small country with which I have much experience). There isn't much government censorhip there. Jamaicans who were aware *knew* what the US and the CIA was doing down there in the 1970s and 1980s because they could see it with their own eyes. They didn't need to read a newspaper or watch TV. Kingston isn't that big of a town... We're not talking about Jamaica..are we. We're talking about a big country with poor communication. ou don't seem to understand that our government has been interfering with foreign *democracies* for decades. We mess with elected governments (if they don't see things our way), about as often as suck up to dictators, (if they control something we want). Are you aware that the US meddled with a democratic election in Australia not that long ago? Was behind the assasination of an elected president in Chile in the 1970s? Overthrew a democratically elected leader in Iran to install the Shah? I get it. It just seems that governments have been doing this kind of stuff forever..but we seem to be the ultimate evil to some. I think that this is evidence of the belief held by many that humans have evolved into better humans in the last few hundred, thousand, whatever... years..but the evidence doesn't seem to show that. So what reality are we trying to deal with? The isolated, intellectual, and "enlightened" rarely make policy. John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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