[Eeyore]

jakdedert wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
jakdedert wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
Laurence Payne wrote:
Eeyore wrote:

I once took over a mix where almost literally ALL the frequencies had been cut
to the max by the house engineer !
I've seen systems where the main eq has been "locked down" by someone
who thought gbf was the only criterion, then every channel on board
eq/d in an exact opposite when someone with ears tried to get the mics
sounding good again.
LMFAO !

The less EQ the better IME and IMHO. It just sounds so natural in comparison. Oh,
memories. I even recall one late 70's rock band (can't remember the name now though
but the gig was at Hemel Hempstead Pavilion) we did who were so impressed they
insisted the entire crew join them in their dressing room for drinkies. They said
quite literally "we've never heard a sound that good before" !
Was that before or after the trucks were loaded....?

WHAT KIND OF *MORON* ARE YOU ?


It was a joke, Graham.....

Hello ?

Uh ? Oh OK. I didn't get it. Apologies. :-)

I can't remember for sure, but before IIRC.. Mind you, back then it wasn't trucks plural

Graham

[Geoff]

Eric B wrote:
PS. In my experience no AKG mics, regardless, are flat. Some models,
especially their condensers, sound really... 'nice'. The C 451 is
cool, there is a vocal mic version C535, that is killer.

The C451 (old and new) is a totally different capsule to C535.

Maybe you are defficient in the treble department, or simply mentally
normalised to over-bright ?

geoff

[Joe Kotroczo]

On 9/11/08 21:50, in article ,
"geoff" wrote:

Eric B wrote:
PS. In my experience no AKG mics, regardless, are flat. Some models,
especially their condensers, sound really... 'nice'. The C 451 is
cool, there is a vocal mic version C535, that is killer.

The C451 (old and new) is a totally different capsule to C535.

Maybe you are defficient in the treble department, or simply mentally
normalised to over-bright ?

The old C451 had changeable capsules, and there was a vocal capsule, the
CK5, which looks like there might be a link to the C535... I haven't held
one in my hands yet, so I'm not sure.

The new C451 has the CK1 capsule (supposedly), but I think it's not
changeable anymore.

--
Joe Kotroczo

[Geoff]

Joe Kotroczo wrote:
On 9/11/08 21:50, in article
, "geoff"
wrote:

Eric B wrote:
PS. In my experience no AKG mics, regardless, are flat. Some models,
especially their condensers, sound really... 'nice'. The C 451 is
cool, there is a vocal mic version C535, that is killer.

The C451 (old and new) is a totally different capsule to C535.

Maybe you are defficient in the treble department, or simply mentally
normalised to over-bright ?

The old C451 had changeable capsules, and there was a vocal capsule,
the CK5, which looks like there might be a link to the C535... I
haven't held one in my hands yet, so I'm not sure.

The new C451 has the CK1 capsule (supposedly), but I think it's not
changeable anymore.

C535 uses capsule CK31 ( was CE31) .

There was an old (very old part) coded 2003Z0009 that may or may not have
been similar to CK5, or the CK5 "product" may in fact use the CK31 capsule -
it certainly looks a similar size/shape to the 535 head.....


The C451B has a fixed capsule that is made up of several separate parts (
electrode, diaphram, and insulator) directly into the body.

geoff

[Joe Kotroczo]

On 9/11/08 23:13, in article ,
"geoff" wrote:

Joe Kotroczo wrote:
On 9/11/08 21:50, in article
, "geoff"
wrote:

Eric B wrote:
PS. In my experience no AKG mics, regardless, are flat. Some models,
especially their condensers, sound really... 'nice'. The C 451 is
cool, there is a vocal mic version C535, that is killer.

The C451 (old and new) is a totally different capsule to C535.

Maybe you are defficient in the treble department, or simply mentally
normalised to over-bright ?

The old C451 had changeable capsules, and there was a vocal capsule,
the CK5, which looks like there might be a link to the C535... I
haven't held one in my hands yet, so I'm not sure.

The new C451 has the CK1 capsule (supposedly), but I think it's not
changeable anymore.

C535 uses capsule CK31 ( was CE31) .

There was an old (very old part) coded 2003Z0009 that may or may not have
been similar to CK5, or the CK5 "product" may in fact use the CK31 capsule -
it certainly looks a similar size/shape to the 535 head.....

Now this is really confusing, because AFAIK the CK31 capsule is a capsule
for the AKG GN series goosenecks... And looks nothing like a C535.


--
Joe Kotroczo

[Geoff]

Joe Kotroczo wrote:

Now this is really confusing, because AFAIK the CK31 capsule is a
capsule for the AKG GN series goosenecks... And looks nothing like a
C535.

Yep, that's cos I got confuced and called the CE31 a CK31 !

geoff

[Scott Dorsey]

Joe Kotroczo wrote:

The old C451 had changeable capsules, and there was a vocal capsule, the
CK5, which looks like there might be a link to the C535... I haven't held
one in my hands yet, so I'm not sure.

It's not really much like the C535, but it has some similar baffling to
prevent popping. It's actually not a bad vocal mike although it was never
really very popular.

The new C451 has the CK1 capsule (supposedly), but I think it's not
changeable anymore.

It's not the same capsule.. the geometry is roughly the same, but they
are using an electret now which requires the backplate shape to be
different. Also, the way the diaphragm is mounted has been changed as
well, so it could be made on the automated tensioning system AKG uses.

For the most part I would consider these changes to be improvements, but
not everyone will see them as such.
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."