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I just bought an inexpensive JVC boombox CD player. It is advertised
as playing CD R/W. Some of my CD-R's play fine, some don't. I tried
to burn the non-playing CD's again on my computer on different CD
brand, they still do not play. Is something wrong with this JVC
boombox? Should we get a better boombox? Or is it a problem that is
bound happen in these inexpensive boomboxes.

thanks.
-surinder
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Dave Platt
 
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I just bought an inexpensive JVC boombox CD player. It is advertised
as playing CD R/W. Some of my CD-R's play fine, some don't. I tried
to burn the non-playing CD's again on my computer on different CD
brand, they still do not play. Is something wrong with this JVC
boombox? Should we get a better boombox? Or is it a problem that is
bound happen in these inexpensive boomboxes.


CD-R and CD-RW compatibility is often an issue on CD players, with the
less-expensive ones sometimes being more of a problem. Unfortunately,
the "speed-rating wars" which have pushed drives (and media) to higher
and higher burning speeds and capacities seem to have had a negative
effect on CD-R compatibility. Blanks which are rated for high-speed
burning seem to use dye layers which are thinner and less reflective
(and thus produce a lower RF signal leven) than the older, lower-speed
blanks. "80-minute" blanks require a data-packing density which is
right up against the limits of the Red Book standard, and many drives
have difficulty tracking these discs.

For best compatibility with CD-R media, I suggest the following:

- Try to get some of the older CD-R blank media, rated for lower
burning rates.

- Similarly, try to find 650-megabyte / 72-minute blanks. These have
pit/land, and track spacings which are right in the middle of the
Red Book specification range, and may be easier for your player to
track.

- Burn at a lower speed - you may get better pit/land pattern
readability on the disc. A decent rule-of-thumb is to burn at
speeds around 2/3 of your drive's maximum - e.g. a 12x drive may
produce its best burn quality at an 8x burning rate.

The other thing you could do is exchange your boom-box for another
one... possibly of the same model, possibly different. If it's
advertised as being CD-R compatible, but rejects a large fraction of
well-burned high-quality CD-R discs, then I'd say you have a
legitimate beef.

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
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Dave Platt
 
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I just bought an inexpensive JVC boombox CD player. It is advertised
as playing CD R/W. Some of my CD-R's play fine, some don't. I tried
to burn the non-playing CD's again on my computer on different CD
brand, they still do not play. Is something wrong with this JVC
boombox? Should we get a better boombox? Or is it a problem that is
bound happen in these inexpensive boomboxes.


CD-R and CD-RW compatibility is often an issue on CD players, with the
less-expensive ones sometimes being more of a problem. Unfortunately,
the "speed-rating wars" which have pushed drives (and media) to higher
and higher burning speeds and capacities seem to have had a negative
effect on CD-R compatibility. Blanks which are rated for high-speed
burning seem to use dye layers which are thinner and less reflective
(and thus produce a lower RF signal leven) than the older, lower-speed
blanks. "80-minute" blanks require a data-packing density which is
right up against the limits of the Red Book standard, and many drives
have difficulty tracking these discs.

For best compatibility with CD-R media, I suggest the following:

- Try to get some of the older CD-R blank media, rated for lower
burning rates.

- Similarly, try to find 650-megabyte / 72-minute blanks. These have
pit/land, and track spacings which are right in the middle of the
Red Book specification range, and may be easier for your player to
track.

- Burn at a lower speed - you may get better pit/land pattern
readability on the disc. A decent rule-of-thumb is to burn at
speeds around 2/3 of your drive's maximum - e.g. a 12x drive may
produce its best burn quality at an 8x burning rate.

The other thing you could do is exchange your boom-box for another
one... possibly of the same model, possibly different. If it's
advertised as being CD-R compatible, but rejects a large fraction of
well-burned high-quality CD-R discs, then I'd say you have a
legitimate beef.

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!
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Dave Platt
 
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I just bought an inexpensive JVC boombox CD player. It is advertised
as playing CD R/W. Some of my CD-R's play fine, some don't. I tried
to burn the non-playing CD's again on my computer on different CD
brand, they still do not play. Is something wrong with this JVC
boombox? Should we get a better boombox? Or is it a problem that is
bound happen in these inexpensive boomboxes.


CD-R and CD-RW compatibility is often an issue on CD players, with the
less-expensive ones sometimes being more of a problem. Unfortunately,
the "speed-rating wars" which have pushed drives (and media) to higher
and higher burning speeds and capacities seem to have had a negative
effect on CD-R compatibility. Blanks which are rated for high-speed
burning seem to use dye layers which are thinner and less reflective
(and thus produce a lower RF signal leven) than the older, lower-speed
blanks. "80-minute" blanks require a data-packing density which is
right up against the limits of the Red Book standard, and many drives
have difficulty tracking these discs.

For best compatibility with CD-R media, I suggest the following:

- Try to get some of the older CD-R blank media, rated for lower
burning rates.

- Similarly, try to find 650-megabyte / 72-minute blanks. These have
pit/land, and track spacings which are right in the middle of the
Red Book specification range, and may be easier for your player to
track.

- Burn at a lower speed - you may get better pit/land pattern
readability on the disc. A decent rule-of-thumb is to burn at
speeds around 2/3 of your drive's maximum - e.g. a 12x drive may
produce its best burn quality at an 8x burning rate.

The other thing you could do is exchange your boom-box for another
one... possibly of the same model, possibly different. If it's
advertised as being CD-R compatible, but rejects a large fraction of
well-burned high-quality CD-R discs, then I'd say you have a
legitimate beef.

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!
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Dave Cohen
 
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No problem with a Sony CFD-S26, an inexpensive unit. Plays cd-rw and cd-r
fine, cd-r's are Phillips burned at 32x (48x rated). No problem with Timex
clock radio with cd-r. I would suspect the player.
Dave Cohen

"Dave Platt" wrote in message
...
I just bought an inexpensive JVC boombox CD player. It is advertised
as playing CD R/W. Some of my CD-R's play fine, some don't. I tried
to burn the non-playing CD's again on my computer on different CD
brand, they still do not play. Is something wrong with this JVC
boombox? Should we get a better boombox? Or is it a problem that is
bound happen in these inexpensive boomboxes.


CD-R and CD-RW compatibility is often an issue on CD players, with the
less-expensive ones sometimes being more of a problem. Unfortunately,
the "speed-rating wars" which have pushed drives (and media) to higher
and higher burning speeds and capacities seem to have had a negative
effect on CD-R compatibility. Blanks which are rated for high-speed
burning seem to use dye layers which are thinner and less reflective
(and thus produce a lower RF signal leven) than the older, lower-speed
blanks. "80-minute" blanks require a data-packing density which is
right up against the limits of the Red Book standard, and many drives
have difficulty tracking these discs.

For best compatibility with CD-R media, I suggest the following:

- Try to get some of the older CD-R blank media, rated for lower
burning rates.

- Similarly, try to find 650-megabyte / 72-minute blanks. These have
pit/land, and track spacings which are right in the middle of the
Red Book specification range, and may be easier for your player to
track.

- Burn at a lower speed - you may get better pit/land pattern
readability on the disc. A decent rule-of-thumb is to burn at
speeds around 2/3 of your drive's maximum - e.g. a 12x drive may
produce its best burn quality at an 8x burning rate.

The other thing you could do is exchange your boom-box for another
one... possibly of the same model, possibly different. If it's
advertised as being CD-R compatible, but rejects a large fraction of
well-burned high-quality CD-R discs, then I'd say you have a
legitimate beef.

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!



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Dave Cohen
 
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No problem with a Sony CFD-S26, an inexpensive unit. Plays cd-rw and cd-r
fine, cd-r's are Phillips burned at 32x (48x rated). No problem with Timex
clock radio with cd-r. I would suspect the player.
Dave Cohen

"Dave Platt" wrote in message
...
I just bought an inexpensive JVC boombox CD player. It is advertised
as playing CD R/W. Some of my CD-R's play fine, some don't. I tried
to burn the non-playing CD's again on my computer on different CD
brand, they still do not play. Is something wrong with this JVC
boombox? Should we get a better boombox? Or is it a problem that is
bound happen in these inexpensive boomboxes.


CD-R and CD-RW compatibility is often an issue on CD players, with the
less-expensive ones sometimes being more of a problem. Unfortunately,
the "speed-rating wars" which have pushed drives (and media) to higher
and higher burning speeds and capacities seem to have had a negative
effect on CD-R compatibility. Blanks which are rated for high-speed
burning seem to use dye layers which are thinner and less reflective
(and thus produce a lower RF signal leven) than the older, lower-speed
blanks. "80-minute" blanks require a data-packing density which is
right up against the limits of the Red Book standard, and many drives
have difficulty tracking these discs.

For best compatibility with CD-R media, I suggest the following:

- Try to get some of the older CD-R blank media, rated for lower
burning rates.

- Similarly, try to find 650-megabyte / 72-minute blanks. These have
pit/land, and track spacings which are right in the middle of the
Red Book specification range, and may be easier for your player to
track.

- Burn at a lower speed - you may get better pit/land pattern
readability on the disc. A decent rule-of-thumb is to burn at
speeds around 2/3 of your drive's maximum - e.g. a 12x drive may
produce its best burn quality at an 8x burning rate.

The other thing you could do is exchange your boom-box for another
one... possibly of the same model, possibly different. If it's
advertised as being CD-R compatible, but rejects a large fraction of
well-burned high-quality CD-R discs, then I'd say you have a
legitimate beef.

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!



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No problem with a Sony CFD-S26, an inexpensive unit. Plays cd-rw and cd-r
fine, cd-r's are Phillips burned at 32x (48x rated). No problem with Timex
clock radio with cd-r. I would suspect the player.
Dave Cohen

"Dave Platt" wrote in message
...
I just bought an inexpensive JVC boombox CD player. It is advertised
as playing CD R/W. Some of my CD-R's play fine, some don't. I tried
to burn the non-playing CD's again on my computer on different CD
brand, they still do not play. Is something wrong with this JVC
boombox? Should we get a better boombox? Or is it a problem that is
bound happen in these inexpensive boomboxes.


CD-R and CD-RW compatibility is often an issue on CD players, with the
less-expensive ones sometimes being more of a problem. Unfortunately,
the "speed-rating wars" which have pushed drives (and media) to higher
and higher burning speeds and capacities seem to have had a negative
effect on CD-R compatibility. Blanks which are rated for high-speed
burning seem to use dye layers which are thinner and less reflective
(and thus produce a lower RF signal leven) than the older, lower-speed
blanks. "80-minute" blanks require a data-packing density which is
right up against the limits of the Red Book standard, and many drives
have difficulty tracking these discs.

For best compatibility with CD-R media, I suggest the following:

- Try to get some of the older CD-R blank media, rated for lower
burning rates.

- Similarly, try to find 650-megabyte / 72-minute blanks. These have
pit/land, and track spacings which are right in the middle of the
Red Book specification range, and may be easier for your player to
track.

- Burn at a lower speed - you may get better pit/land pattern
readability on the disc. A decent rule-of-thumb is to burn at
speeds around 2/3 of your drive's maximum - e.g. a 12x drive may
produce its best burn quality at an 8x burning rate.

The other thing you could do is exchange your boom-box for another
one... possibly of the same model, possibly different. If it's
advertised as being CD-R compatible, but rejects a large fraction of
well-burned high-quality CD-R discs, then I'd say you have a
legitimate beef.

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!





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"SPS22" wrote in message
om...
I just bought an inexpensive JVC boombox CD player. It is advertised
as playing CD R/W. Some of my CD-R's play fine, some don't. I tried
to burn the non-playing CD's again on my computer on different CD
brand, they still do not play. Is something wrong with this JVC
boombox? Should we get a better boombox? Or is it a problem that is
bound happen in these inexpensive boomboxes.



Ghetto-blasters are pretty notorious for low playback compatibilty with some
(most ?) CD-R media.

geoff


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"SPS22" wrote in message
om...
I just bought an inexpensive JVC boombox CD player. It is advertised
as playing CD R/W. Some of my CD-R's play fine, some don't. I tried
to burn the non-playing CD's again on my computer on different CD
brand, they still do not play. Is something wrong with this JVC
boombox? Should we get a better boombox? Or is it a problem that is
bound happen in these inexpensive boomboxes.



Ghetto-blasters are pretty notorious for low playback compatibilty with some
(most ?) CD-R media.

geoff


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"SPS22" wrote in message
om...
I just bought an inexpensive JVC boombox CD player. It is advertised
as playing CD R/W. Some of my CD-R's play fine, some don't. I tried
to burn the non-playing CD's again on my computer on different CD
brand, they still do not play. Is something wrong with this JVC
boombox? Should we get a better boombox? Or is it a problem that is
bound happen in these inexpensive boomboxes.



Ghetto-blasters are pretty notorious for low playback compatibilty with some
(most ?) CD-R media.

geoff


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"SPS22" wrote in message
om
I just bought an inexpensive JVC boombox CD player. It is advertised
as playing CD R/W. Some of my CD-R's play fine, some don't. I tried
to burn the non-playing CD's again on my computer on different CD
brand, they still do not play. Is something wrong with this JVC
boombox? Should we get a better boombox? Or is it a problem that is
bound happen in these inexpensive boomboxes.


I can tell you for sure that modern boomboxes can play CD-Rs just fine. If
you've got a new one that doesn't, it's probably defective. A good modern
boombox should be able to play anything that you can play on just about any
other player, including the burner you used to make it.




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"SPS22" wrote in message
om
I just bought an inexpensive JVC boombox CD player. It is advertised
as playing CD R/W. Some of my CD-R's play fine, some don't. I tried
to burn the non-playing CD's again on my computer on different CD
brand, they still do not play. Is something wrong with this JVC
boombox? Should we get a better boombox? Or is it a problem that is
bound happen in these inexpensive boomboxes.


I can tell you for sure that modern boomboxes can play CD-Rs just fine. If
you've got a new one that doesn't, it's probably defective. A good modern
boombox should be able to play anything that you can play on just about any
other player, including the burner you used to make it.


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"SPS22" wrote in message
om
I just bought an inexpensive JVC boombox CD player. It is advertised
as playing CD R/W. Some of my CD-R's play fine, some don't. I tried
to burn the non-playing CD's again on my computer on different CD
brand, they still do not play. Is something wrong with this JVC
boombox? Should we get a better boombox? Or is it a problem that is
bound happen in these inexpensive boomboxes.


I can tell you for sure that modern boomboxes can play CD-Rs just fine. If
you've got a new one that doesn't, it's probably defective. A good modern
boombox should be able to play anything that you can play on just about any
other player, including the burner you used to make it.


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Dave Cohen
 
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Another suggestion, take the most problematic media you have and visit a
Best Buy or similar, you shouldn't have a problem finding running units on
which you can test, I doubt salespeople would object. Lie a little, tell
them you're looking to purchase and want to be sure etc. You might even be
telling the truth depending on what you find.
Dave Cohen

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"SPS22" wrote in message
om
I just bought an inexpensive JVC boombox CD player. It is advertised
as playing CD R/W. Some of my CD-R's play fine, some don't. I tried
to burn the non-playing CD's again on my computer on different CD
brand, they still do not play. Is something wrong with this JVC
boombox? Should we get a better boombox? Or is it a problem that is
bound happen in these inexpensive boomboxes.


I can tell you for sure that modern boomboxes can play CD-Rs just fine. If
you've got a new one that doesn't, it's probably defective. A good modern
boombox should be able to play anything that you can play on just about

any
other player, including the burner you used to make it.




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Dave Cohen
 
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Another suggestion, take the most problematic media you have and visit a
Best Buy or similar, you shouldn't have a problem finding running units on
which you can test, I doubt salespeople would object. Lie a little, tell
them you're looking to purchase and want to be sure etc. You might even be
telling the truth depending on what you find.
Dave Cohen

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"SPS22" wrote in message
om
I just bought an inexpensive JVC boombox CD player. It is advertised
as playing CD R/W. Some of my CD-R's play fine, some don't. I tried
to burn the non-playing CD's again on my computer on different CD
brand, they still do not play. Is something wrong with this JVC
boombox? Should we get a better boombox? Or is it a problem that is
bound happen in these inexpensive boomboxes.


I can tell you for sure that modern boomboxes can play CD-Rs just fine. If
you've got a new one that doesn't, it's probably defective. A good modern
boombox should be able to play anything that you can play on just about

any
other player, including the burner you used to make it.




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Dave Cohen
 
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Another suggestion, take the most problematic media you have and visit a
Best Buy or similar, you shouldn't have a problem finding running units on
which you can test, I doubt salespeople would object. Lie a little, tell
them you're looking to purchase and want to be sure etc. You might even be
telling the truth depending on what you find.
Dave Cohen

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"SPS22" wrote in message
om
I just bought an inexpensive JVC boombox CD player. It is advertised
as playing CD R/W. Some of my CD-R's play fine, some don't. I tried
to burn the non-playing CD's again on my computer on different CD
brand, they still do not play. Is something wrong with this JVC
boombox? Should we get a better boombox? Or is it a problem that is
bound happen in these inexpensive boomboxes.


I can tell you for sure that modern boomboxes can play CD-Rs just fine. If
you've got a new one that doesn't, it's probably defective. A good modern
boombox should be able to play anything that you can play on just about

any
other player, including the burner you used to make it.






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"Dave Cohen" wrote in message ws.com...
Another suggestion, take the most problematic media you have and visit a
Best Buy or similar, you shouldn't have a problem finding running units on
which you can test, I doubt salespeople would object. Lie a little, tell
them you're looking to purchase and want to be sure etc. You might even be
telling the truth depending on what you find.
Dave Cohen


I took back the boom box. I took bunch of offending CD-R's and played
on a variety of boomboxes. They played fine on all of them. This
means that this model of JVC was screwed up, or maybe just this piece.
Anyways, I got a philipps boombox. Sound is as good as boomboxes go.
It plays CD-R's well. But the other suggestions from the group were
helpful and I am going to use them as I go along.

Thanks.
-Surinder
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"Dave Cohen" wrote in message ws.com...
Another suggestion, take the most problematic media you have and visit a
Best Buy or similar, you shouldn't have a problem finding running units on
which you can test, I doubt salespeople would object. Lie a little, tell
them you're looking to purchase and want to be sure etc. You might even be
telling the truth depending on what you find.
Dave Cohen


I took back the boom box. I took bunch of offending CD-R's and played
on a variety of boomboxes. They played fine on all of them. This
means that this model of JVC was screwed up, or maybe just this piece.
Anyways, I got a philipps boombox. Sound is as good as boomboxes go.
It plays CD-R's well. But the other suggestions from the group were
helpful and I am going to use them as I go along.

Thanks.
-Surinder
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"Dave Cohen" wrote in message ws.com...
Another suggestion, take the most problematic media you have and visit a
Best Buy or similar, you shouldn't have a problem finding running units on
which you can test, I doubt salespeople would object. Lie a little, tell
them you're looking to purchase and want to be sure etc. You might even be
telling the truth depending on what you find.
Dave Cohen


I took back the boom box. I took bunch of offending CD-R's and played
on a variety of boomboxes. They played fine on all of them. This
means that this model of JVC was screwed up, or maybe just this piece.
Anyways, I got a philipps boombox. Sound is as good as boomboxes go.
It plays CD-R's well. But the other suggestions from the group were
helpful and I am going to use them as I go along.

Thanks.
-Surinder
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Jay
 
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I have a Sony 8 x burner in my system and it has always worked fine..my
audio cd's play in all my players with no problems. I just added a second
burner, another Sony (CRX225A) which is 52 v 24 x 52. The fastest media I
could find was Sony rated at 42x (or 48x...I can't remember which). About 1
cd in 3 comes out with an error. It seems to record fine, and the first 20
cuts play fine, but towards the end of the side the player just locks up and
gives an error message. This happens at the identical point on any player,
including either of my burners.

I just went back and redid one of them at 12x and it recorded fine (on older
24 x media). I had no luck slowing down the burn to 40 or 16 however. I have
applied the XP patch and Easy CD Creator patches and updates. I don't know
where else to look.

Jay
"SPS22" wrote in message
om...
"Dave Cohen" wrote in message

ws.com...
Another suggestion, take the most problematic media you have and visit a
Best Buy or similar, you shouldn't have a problem finding running units

on
which you can test, I doubt salespeople would object. Lie a little, tell
them you're looking to purchase and want to be sure etc. You might even

be
telling the truth depending on what you find.
Dave Cohen


I took back the boom box. I took bunch of offending CD-R's and played
on a variety of boomboxes. They played fine on all of them. This
means that this model of JVC was screwed up, or maybe just this piece.
Anyways, I got a philipps boombox. Sound is as good as boomboxes go.
It plays CD-R's well. But the other suggestions from the group were
helpful and I am going to use them as I go along.

Thanks.
-Surinder



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Jay
 
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I have a Sony 8 x burner in my system and it has always worked fine..my
audio cd's play in all my players with no problems. I just added a second
burner, another Sony (CRX225A) which is 52 v 24 x 52. The fastest media I
could find was Sony rated at 42x (or 48x...I can't remember which). About 1
cd in 3 comes out with an error. It seems to record fine, and the first 20
cuts play fine, but towards the end of the side the player just locks up and
gives an error message. This happens at the identical point on any player,
including either of my burners.

I just went back and redid one of them at 12x and it recorded fine (on older
24 x media). I had no luck slowing down the burn to 40 or 16 however. I have
applied the XP patch and Easy CD Creator patches and updates. I don't know
where else to look.

Jay
"SPS22" wrote in message
om...
"Dave Cohen" wrote in message

ws.com...
Another suggestion, take the most problematic media you have and visit a
Best Buy or similar, you shouldn't have a problem finding running units

on
which you can test, I doubt salespeople would object. Lie a little, tell
them you're looking to purchase and want to be sure etc. You might even

be
telling the truth depending on what you find.
Dave Cohen


I took back the boom box. I took bunch of offending CD-R's and played
on a variety of boomboxes. They played fine on all of them. This
means that this model of JVC was screwed up, or maybe just this piece.
Anyways, I got a philipps boombox. Sound is as good as boomboxes go.
It plays CD-R's well. But the other suggestions from the group were
helpful and I am going to use them as I go along.

Thanks.
-Surinder





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Jay
 
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I have a Sony 8 x burner in my system and it has always worked fine..my
audio cd's play in all my players with no problems. I just added a second
burner, another Sony (CRX225A) which is 52 v 24 x 52. The fastest media I
could find was Sony rated at 42x (or 48x...I can't remember which). About 1
cd in 3 comes out with an error. It seems to record fine, and the first 20
cuts play fine, but towards the end of the side the player just locks up and
gives an error message. This happens at the identical point on any player,
including either of my burners.

I just went back and redid one of them at 12x and it recorded fine (on older
24 x media). I had no luck slowing down the burn to 40 or 16 however. I have
applied the XP patch and Easy CD Creator patches and updates. I don't know
where else to look.

Jay
"SPS22" wrote in message
om...
"Dave Cohen" wrote in message

ws.com...
Another suggestion, take the most problematic media you have and visit a
Best Buy or similar, you shouldn't have a problem finding running units

on
which you can test, I doubt salespeople would object. Lie a little, tell
them you're looking to purchase and want to be sure etc. You might even

be
telling the truth depending on what you find.
Dave Cohen


I took back the boom box. I took bunch of offending CD-R's and played
on a variety of boomboxes. They played fine on all of them. This
means that this model of JVC was screwed up, or maybe just this piece.
Anyways, I got a philipps boombox. Sound is as good as boomboxes go.
It plays CD-R's well. But the other suggestions from the group were
helpful and I am going to use them as I go along.

Thanks.
-Surinder



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Graham Mayor
 
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Default CD R on Boombox CD Player-Related Problem

When dealing with audio, what you are experiencing is normal. Audio copies
work more by good luck than good management and media compatibility can be
crucial with fussy hardware. If it works at 12x then record at 12X. To get a
faster speed, you will have to wait until media technology catches up with
the hardware - and even then there will be an optimum speed for a given
writer/medium combination.

--

Graham Mayor



Jay wrote:
I have a Sony 8 x burner in my system and it has always worked
fine..my audio cd's play in all my players with no problems. I just
added a second burner, another Sony (CRX225A) which is 52 v 24 x 52.
The fastest media I could find was Sony rated at 42x (or 48x...I
can't remember which). About 1 cd in 3 comes out with an error. It
seems to record fine, and the first 20 cuts play fine, but towards
the end of the side the player just locks up and gives an error
message. This happens at the identical point on any player, including
either of my burners.

I just went back and redid one of them at 12x and it recorded fine
(on older 24 x media). I had no luck slowing down the burn to 40 or
16 however. I have applied the XP patch and Easy CD Creator patches
and updates. I don't know where else to look.

Jay
"SPS22" wrote in message
om...
"Dave Cohen" wrote in message

ws.com...
Another suggestion, take the most problematic media you have and
visit a Best Buy or similar, you shouldn't have a problem finding
running units on which you can test, I doubt salespeople would
object. Lie a little, tell them you're looking to purchase and want
to be sure etc. You might even be telling the truth depending on
what you find.
Dave Cohen


I took back the boom box. I took bunch of offending CD-R's and played
on a variety of boomboxes. They played fine on all of them. This
means that this model of JVC was screwed up, or maybe just this
piece. Anyways, I got a philipps boombox. Sound is as good as
boomboxes go.
It plays CD-R's well. But the other suggestions from the group were
helpful and I am going to use them as I go along.

Thanks.
-Surinder



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Graham Mayor
 
Posts: n/a
Default CD R on Boombox CD Player-Related Problem

When dealing with audio, what you are experiencing is normal. Audio copies
work more by good luck than good management and media compatibility can be
crucial with fussy hardware. If it works at 12x then record at 12X. To get a
faster speed, you will have to wait until media technology catches up with
the hardware - and even then there will be an optimum speed for a given
writer/medium combination.

--

Graham Mayor



Jay wrote:
I have a Sony 8 x burner in my system and it has always worked
fine..my audio cd's play in all my players with no problems. I just
added a second burner, another Sony (CRX225A) which is 52 v 24 x 52.
The fastest media I could find was Sony rated at 42x (or 48x...I
can't remember which). About 1 cd in 3 comes out with an error. It
seems to record fine, and the first 20 cuts play fine, but towards
the end of the side the player just locks up and gives an error
message. This happens at the identical point on any player, including
either of my burners.

I just went back and redid one of them at 12x and it recorded fine
(on older 24 x media). I had no luck slowing down the burn to 40 or
16 however. I have applied the XP patch and Easy CD Creator patches
and updates. I don't know where else to look.

Jay
"SPS22" wrote in message
om...
"Dave Cohen" wrote in message

ws.com...
Another suggestion, take the most problematic media you have and
visit a Best Buy or similar, you shouldn't have a problem finding
running units on which you can test, I doubt salespeople would
object. Lie a little, tell them you're looking to purchase and want
to be sure etc. You might even be telling the truth depending on
what you find.
Dave Cohen


I took back the boom box. I took bunch of offending CD-R's and played
on a variety of boomboxes. They played fine on all of them. This
means that this model of JVC was screwed up, or maybe just this
piece. Anyways, I got a philipps boombox. Sound is as good as
boomboxes go.
It plays CD-R's well. But the other suggestions from the group were
helpful and I am going to use them as I go along.

Thanks.
-Surinder



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Graham Mayor
 
Posts: n/a
Default CD R on Boombox CD Player-Related Problem

When dealing with audio, what you are experiencing is normal. Audio copies
work more by good luck than good management and media compatibility can be
crucial with fussy hardware. If it works at 12x then record at 12X. To get a
faster speed, you will have to wait until media technology catches up with
the hardware - and even then there will be an optimum speed for a given
writer/medium combination.

--

Graham Mayor



Jay wrote:
I have a Sony 8 x burner in my system and it has always worked
fine..my audio cd's play in all my players with no problems. I just
added a second burner, another Sony (CRX225A) which is 52 v 24 x 52.
The fastest media I could find was Sony rated at 42x (or 48x...I
can't remember which). About 1 cd in 3 comes out with an error. It
seems to record fine, and the first 20 cuts play fine, but towards
the end of the side the player just locks up and gives an error
message. This happens at the identical point on any player, including
either of my burners.

I just went back and redid one of them at 12x and it recorded fine
(on older 24 x media). I had no luck slowing down the burn to 40 or
16 however. I have applied the XP patch and Easy CD Creator patches
and updates. I don't know where else to look.

Jay
"SPS22" wrote in message
om...
"Dave Cohen" wrote in message

ws.com...
Another suggestion, take the most problematic media you have and
visit a Best Buy or similar, you shouldn't have a problem finding
running units on which you can test, I doubt salespeople would
object. Lie a little, tell them you're looking to purchase and want
to be sure etc. You might even be telling the truth depending on
what you find.
Dave Cohen


I took back the boom box. I took bunch of offending CD-R's and played
on a variety of boomboxes. They played fine on all of them. This
means that this model of JVC was screwed up, or maybe just this
piece. Anyways, I got a philipps boombox. Sound is as good as
boomboxes go.
It plays CD-R's well. But the other suggestions from the group were
helpful and I am going to use them as I go along.

Thanks.
-Surinder



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Jay
 
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Default CD R on Boombox CD Player-Related Problem

I think you;ve hit on it exactly. I just came back from the store with two
new kinds of media, TDK & Memorex, both rated at 52x. I've done two 52x
burns (one on each media) and both discs came out ok. I'll keep my fingers
crossed.

One follow up question. This Sony burner says that it defaults to 40x each
time you insert a blank CD-R. If you want to engage what they call their
"turbo" speed system, you hold the Eject button for 5 seconds. The unit
switches to 52x mode for that time only. As soon as you eject you've rest to
40x. It seemed to work as advertised, but is it odd to have to request
maximum speed each time rather than having the unit adjust itself (in Roxio
it shows "Optimal".
Jay
"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
When dealing with audio, what you are experiencing is normal. Audio copies
work more by good luck than good management and media compatibility can be
crucial with fussy hardware. If it works at 12x then record at 12X. To get

a
faster speed, you will have to wait until media technology catches up with
the hardware - and even then there will be an optimum speed for a given
writer/medium combination.

--

Graham Mayor



Jay wrote:
I have a Sony 8 x burner in my system and it has always worked
fine..my audio cd's play in all my players with no problems. I just
added a second burner, another Sony (CRX225A) which is 52 v 24 x 52.
The fastest media I could find was Sony rated at 42x (or 48x...I
can't remember which). About 1 cd in 3 comes out with an error. It
seems to record fine, and the first 20 cuts play fine, but towards
the end of the side the player just locks up and gives an error
message. This happens at the identical point on any player, including
either of my burners.

I just went back and redid one of them at 12x and it recorded fine
(on older 24 x media). I had no luck slowing down the burn to 40 or
16 however. I have applied the XP patch and Easy CD Creator patches
and updates. I don't know where else to look.

Jay
"SPS22" wrote in message
om...
"Dave Cohen" wrote in message

ws.com...
Another suggestion, take the most problematic media you have and
visit a Best Buy or similar, you shouldn't have a problem finding
running units on which you can test, I doubt salespeople would
object. Lie a little, tell them you're looking to purchase and want
to be sure etc. You might even be telling the truth depending on
what you find.
Dave Cohen

I took back the boom box. I took bunch of offending CD-R's and played
on a variety of boomboxes. They played fine on all of them. This
means that this model of JVC was screwed up, or maybe just this
piece. Anyways, I got a philipps boombox. Sound is as good as
boomboxes go.
It plays CD-R's well. But the other suggestions from the group were
helpful and I am going to use them as I go along.

Thanks.
-Surinder







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Jay
 
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I think you;ve hit on it exactly. I just came back from the store with two
new kinds of media, TDK & Memorex, both rated at 52x. I've done two 52x
burns (one on each media) and both discs came out ok. I'll keep my fingers
crossed.

One follow up question. This Sony burner says that it defaults to 40x each
time you insert a blank CD-R. If you want to engage what they call their
"turbo" speed system, you hold the Eject button for 5 seconds. The unit
switches to 52x mode for that time only. As soon as you eject you've rest to
40x. It seemed to work as advertised, but is it odd to have to request
maximum speed each time rather than having the unit adjust itself (in Roxio
it shows "Optimal".
Jay
"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
When dealing with audio, what you are experiencing is normal. Audio copies
work more by good luck than good management and media compatibility can be
crucial with fussy hardware. If it works at 12x then record at 12X. To get

a
faster speed, you will have to wait until media technology catches up with
the hardware - and even then there will be an optimum speed for a given
writer/medium combination.

--

Graham Mayor



Jay wrote:
I have a Sony 8 x burner in my system and it has always worked
fine..my audio cd's play in all my players with no problems. I just
added a second burner, another Sony (CRX225A) which is 52 v 24 x 52.
The fastest media I could find was Sony rated at 42x (or 48x...I
can't remember which). About 1 cd in 3 comes out with an error. It
seems to record fine, and the first 20 cuts play fine, but towards
the end of the side the player just locks up and gives an error
message. This happens at the identical point on any player, including
either of my burners.

I just went back and redid one of them at 12x and it recorded fine
(on older 24 x media). I had no luck slowing down the burn to 40 or
16 however. I have applied the XP patch and Easy CD Creator patches
and updates. I don't know where else to look.

Jay
"SPS22" wrote in message
om...
"Dave Cohen" wrote in message

ws.com...
Another suggestion, take the most problematic media you have and
visit a Best Buy or similar, you shouldn't have a problem finding
running units on which you can test, I doubt salespeople would
object. Lie a little, tell them you're looking to purchase and want
to be sure etc. You might even be telling the truth depending on
what you find.
Dave Cohen

I took back the boom box. I took bunch of offending CD-R's and played
on a variety of boomboxes. They played fine on all of them. This
means that this model of JVC was screwed up, or maybe just this
piece. Anyways, I got a philipps boombox. Sound is as good as
boomboxes go.
It plays CD-R's well. But the other suggestions from the group were
helpful and I am going to use them as I go along.

Thanks.
-Surinder





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Jay
 
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I think you;ve hit on it exactly. I just came back from the store with two
new kinds of media, TDK & Memorex, both rated at 52x. I've done two 52x
burns (one on each media) and both discs came out ok. I'll keep my fingers
crossed.

One follow up question. This Sony burner says that it defaults to 40x each
time you insert a blank CD-R. If you want to engage what they call their
"turbo" speed system, you hold the Eject button for 5 seconds. The unit
switches to 52x mode for that time only. As soon as you eject you've rest to
40x. It seemed to work as advertised, but is it odd to have to request
maximum speed each time rather than having the unit adjust itself (in Roxio
it shows "Optimal".
Jay
"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
When dealing with audio, what you are experiencing is normal. Audio copies
work more by good luck than good management and media compatibility can be
crucial with fussy hardware. If it works at 12x then record at 12X. To get

a
faster speed, you will have to wait until media technology catches up with
the hardware - and even then there will be an optimum speed for a given
writer/medium combination.

--

Graham Mayor



Jay wrote:
I have a Sony 8 x burner in my system and it has always worked
fine..my audio cd's play in all my players with no problems. I just
added a second burner, another Sony (CRX225A) which is 52 v 24 x 52.
The fastest media I could find was Sony rated at 42x (or 48x...I
can't remember which). About 1 cd in 3 comes out with an error. It
seems to record fine, and the first 20 cuts play fine, but towards
the end of the side the player just locks up and gives an error
message. This happens at the identical point on any player, including
either of my burners.

I just went back and redid one of them at 12x and it recorded fine
(on older 24 x media). I had no luck slowing down the burn to 40 or
16 however. I have applied the XP patch and Easy CD Creator patches
and updates. I don't know where else to look.

Jay
"SPS22" wrote in message
om...
"Dave Cohen" wrote in message

ws.com...
Another suggestion, take the most problematic media you have and
visit a Best Buy or similar, you shouldn't have a problem finding
running units on which you can test, I doubt salespeople would
object. Lie a little, tell them you're looking to purchase and want
to be sure etc. You might even be telling the truth depending on
what you find.
Dave Cohen

I took back the boom box. I took bunch of offending CD-R's and played
on a variety of boomboxes. They played fine on all of them. This
means that this model of JVC was screwed up, or maybe just this
piece. Anyways, I got a philipps boombox. Sound is as good as
boomboxes go.
It plays CD-R's well. But the other suggestions from the group were
helpful and I am going to use them as I go along.

Thanks.
-Surinder





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Graham Mayor
 
Posts: n/a
Default CD R on Boombox CD Player-Related Problem

I don't know the reason. I have no knowledge of this unit, but 52X is at the
mechanical limits of the CD medium, with rotation speeds that can cause
catastrphic disc failure. TGhe discs can burst apart at this speed,
destroying the writer. Maybe Sony is playing with figures, but wants to
protect you from yourself

--

Graham Mayor



Jay wrote:
I think you;ve hit on it exactly. I just came back from the store
with two new kinds of media, TDK & Memorex, both rated at 52x. I've
done two 52x burns (one on each media) and both discs came out ok.
I'll keep my fingers crossed.

One follow up question. This Sony burner says that it defaults to 40x
each time you insert a blank CD-R. If you want to engage what they
call their "turbo" speed system, you hold the Eject button for 5
seconds. The unit switches to 52x mode for that time only. As soon as
you eject you've rest to 40x. It seemed to work as advertised, but is
it odd to have to request maximum speed each time rather than having
the unit adjust itself (in Roxio it shows "Optimal".
Jay
"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
When dealing with audio, what you are experiencing is normal. Audio
copies work more by good luck than good management and media
compatibility can be crucial with fussy hardware. If it works at 12x
then record at 12X. To get a faster speed, you will have to wait
until media technology catches up with the hardware - and even then
there will be an optimum speed for a given writer/medium combination.

--

Graham Mayor



Jay wrote:
I have a Sony 8 x burner in my system and it has always worked
fine..my audio cd's play in all my players with no problems. I just
added a second burner, another Sony (CRX225A) which is 52 v 24 x 52.
The fastest media I could find was Sony rated at 42x (or 48x...I
can't remember which). About 1 cd in 3 comes out with an error. It
seems to record fine, and the first 20 cuts play fine, but towards
the end of the side the player just locks up and gives an error
message. This happens at the identical point on any player,
including either of my burners.

I just went back and redid one of them at 12x and it recorded fine
(on older 24 x media). I had no luck slowing down the burn to 40 or
16 however. I have applied the XP patch and Easy CD Creator patches
and updates. I don't know where else to look.

Jay
"SPS22" wrote in message
om...
"Dave Cohen" wrote in message
ws.com...
Another suggestion, take the most problematic media you have and
visit a Best Buy or similar, you shouldn't have a problem finding
running units on which you can test, I doubt salespeople would
object. Lie a little, tell them you're looking to purchase and
want to be sure etc. You might even be telling the truth
depending on
what you find.
Dave Cohen

I took back the boom box. I took bunch of offending CD-R's and
played on a variety of boomboxes. They played fine on all of them.
This means that this model of JVC was screwed up, or maybe just
this piece. Anyways, I got a philipps boombox. Sound is as good
as boomboxes go.
It plays CD-R's well. But the other suggestions from the group
were helpful and I am going to use them as I go along.

Thanks.
-Surinder



  #39   Report Post  
Graham Mayor
 
Posts: n/a
Default CD R on Boombox CD Player-Related Problem

I don't know the reason. I have no knowledge of this unit, but 52X is at the
mechanical limits of the CD medium, with rotation speeds that can cause
catastrphic disc failure. TGhe discs can burst apart at this speed,
destroying the writer. Maybe Sony is playing with figures, but wants to
protect you from yourself

--

Graham Mayor



Jay wrote:
I think you;ve hit on it exactly. I just came back from the store
with two new kinds of media, TDK & Memorex, both rated at 52x. I've
done two 52x burns (one on each media) and both discs came out ok.
I'll keep my fingers crossed.

One follow up question. This Sony burner says that it defaults to 40x
each time you insert a blank CD-R. If you want to engage what they
call their "turbo" speed system, you hold the Eject button for 5
seconds. The unit switches to 52x mode for that time only. As soon as
you eject you've rest to 40x. It seemed to work as advertised, but is
it odd to have to request maximum speed each time rather than having
the unit adjust itself (in Roxio it shows "Optimal".
Jay
"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
When dealing with audio, what you are experiencing is normal. Audio
copies work more by good luck than good management and media
compatibility can be crucial with fussy hardware. If it works at 12x
then record at 12X. To get a faster speed, you will have to wait
until media technology catches up with the hardware - and even then
there will be an optimum speed for a given writer/medium combination.

--

Graham Mayor



Jay wrote:
I have a Sony 8 x burner in my system and it has always worked
fine..my audio cd's play in all my players with no problems. I just
added a second burner, another Sony (CRX225A) which is 52 v 24 x 52.
The fastest media I could find was Sony rated at 42x (or 48x...I
can't remember which). About 1 cd in 3 comes out with an error. It
seems to record fine, and the first 20 cuts play fine, but towards
the end of the side the player just locks up and gives an error
message. This happens at the identical point on any player,
including either of my burners.

I just went back and redid one of them at 12x and it recorded fine
(on older 24 x media). I had no luck slowing down the burn to 40 or
16 however. I have applied the XP patch and Easy CD Creator patches
and updates. I don't know where else to look.

Jay
"SPS22" wrote in message
om...
"Dave Cohen" wrote in message
ws.com...
Another suggestion, take the most problematic media you have and
visit a Best Buy or similar, you shouldn't have a problem finding
running units on which you can test, I doubt salespeople would
object. Lie a little, tell them you're looking to purchase and
want to be sure etc. You might even be telling the truth
depending on
what you find.
Dave Cohen

I took back the boom box. I took bunch of offending CD-R's and
played on a variety of boomboxes. They played fine on all of them.
This means that this model of JVC was screwed up, or maybe just
this piece. Anyways, I got a philipps boombox. Sound is as good
as boomboxes go.
It plays CD-R's well. But the other suggestions from the group
were helpful and I am going to use them as I go along.

Thanks.
-Surinder



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Graham Mayor
 
Posts: n/a
Default CD R on Boombox CD Player-Related Problem

I don't know the reason. I have no knowledge of this unit, but 52X is at the
mechanical limits of the CD medium, with rotation speeds that can cause
catastrphic disc failure. TGhe discs can burst apart at this speed,
destroying the writer. Maybe Sony is playing with figures, but wants to
protect you from yourself

--

Graham Mayor



Jay wrote:
I think you;ve hit on it exactly. I just came back from the store
with two new kinds of media, TDK & Memorex, both rated at 52x. I've
done two 52x burns (one on each media) and both discs came out ok.
I'll keep my fingers crossed.

One follow up question. This Sony burner says that it defaults to 40x
each time you insert a blank CD-R. If you want to engage what they
call their "turbo" speed system, you hold the Eject button for 5
seconds. The unit switches to 52x mode for that time only. As soon as
you eject you've rest to 40x. It seemed to work as advertised, but is
it odd to have to request maximum speed each time rather than having
the unit adjust itself (in Roxio it shows "Optimal".
Jay
"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
When dealing with audio, what you are experiencing is normal. Audio
copies work more by good luck than good management and media
compatibility can be crucial with fussy hardware. If it works at 12x
then record at 12X. To get a faster speed, you will have to wait
until media technology catches up with the hardware - and even then
there will be an optimum speed for a given writer/medium combination.

--

Graham Mayor



Jay wrote:
I have a Sony 8 x burner in my system and it has always worked
fine..my audio cd's play in all my players with no problems. I just
added a second burner, another Sony (CRX225A) which is 52 v 24 x 52.
The fastest media I could find was Sony rated at 42x (or 48x...I
can't remember which). About 1 cd in 3 comes out with an error. It
seems to record fine, and the first 20 cuts play fine, but towards
the end of the side the player just locks up and gives an error
message. This happens at the identical point on any player,
including either of my burners.

I just went back and redid one of them at 12x and it recorded fine
(on older 24 x media). I had no luck slowing down the burn to 40 or
16 however. I have applied the XP patch and Easy CD Creator patches
and updates. I don't know where else to look.

Jay
"SPS22" wrote in message
om...
"Dave Cohen" wrote in message
ws.com...
Another suggestion, take the most problematic media you have and
visit a Best Buy or similar, you shouldn't have a problem finding
running units on which you can test, I doubt salespeople would
object. Lie a little, tell them you're looking to purchase and
want to be sure etc. You might even be telling the truth
depending on
what you find.
Dave Cohen

I took back the boom box. I took bunch of offending CD-R's and
played on a variety of boomboxes. They played fine on all of them.
This means that this model of JVC was screwed up, or maybe just
this piece. Anyways, I got a philipps boombox. Sound is as good
as boomboxes go.
It plays CD-R's well. But the other suggestions from the group
were helpful and I am going to use them as I go along.

Thanks.
-Surinder



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