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Whats with Alpine ditching the time correction?
Ummmm. Twisted pair don't do **** unless you drive it with a balanced drive
unit and it is also received by a device with differential inputs.... Chad "MOSFET" wrote in message ... Richard Clark a god, LOL ... That's a good one, hahah. And what did he pioneer ? Or more to the point, what did he say he pioneered ? -RG How about horn loaded drivers to start. He may not have invented the idea, but his Buick single-handedly ushered in an entirely new class of car audio speaker (the horn-loaded driver). He also helped develop the first stiffening capacitors used for car audio applications. David Navone developed the first twisted-pair interconnects for car audio applications. Is this enough for you? I COULD go on and on. MOSFET |
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Whats with Alpine ditching the time correction?
"MOSFET" wrote in message ... "RG" wrote in message ... You don't really believe this ... do you, LOL ???? Yes, please go on and on as this is hilarious. -RG I'm sure your accomplishments FAR outweigh theirs. Their success must all be a complete fluke, right? Do I detect a little jealousy? I actually know David Navone (well, I've spoken to him on the phone several times) and he is a REALLY bright guy, and a hell of a nice guy too (he'll talk your ear off if you let him!). So slam him all you like, he will be laughing all the way to the bank. MOSFET Yes, he is a nice fellow, Met him in person a few times. A very kind man that knows his ****, hard to come by these days Chad |
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Whats with Alpine ditching the time correction?
"Captain Howdy" wrote in message ... What's different about the technology of twisted-pair interconnects of car audio vs. the technology of twisted-pair cabling that was invented in the 1880's for wiring up the early telephone systems? That telco twisted uses balanced topology and most cars don't so they just "look cool" in cars But I do see where you're going with this, I invented blue led's in cell phones, My phone had blue led's 2 good year years before any manufacture used them in their phones. That was back in the day of the Nokia's 5160. I have also used blue power led's in my amplifiers long before alpine. Should I go on about my ultra violet led lighting in the car? I was using Blue LED's in stuff back in '96, when the Nokia 5160 was someone's wet dream. Dude NUV LED's are the ****, just got to play with some.... You got pics? Chad In article , "MOSFET" wrote: Richard Clark a god, LOL ... That's a good one, hahah. And what did he pioneer ? Or more to the point, what did he say he pioneered ? -RG How about horn loaded drivers to start. He may not have invented the idea, but his Buick single-handedly ushered in an entirely new class of car audio speaker (the horn-loaded driver). He also helped develop the first stiffening capacitors used for car audio applications. David Navone developed the first twisted-pair interconnects for car audio applications. Is this enough for you? I COULD go on and on. MOSFET |
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Whats with Alpine ditching the time correction?
I don't have a "beef" with either of them. But from an observational
perspective, RC's self-annointed importance is amusing at best ( FWIW, I never even mentioned Navone). As far as the examples (of proof) you provided .... twisted pair in car audio is bogus, and RC was nowhere near the first to use stiffening caps, contrary to what he claims. I'm surprised that he doesn't lay claim to "inventing" subwoofers, too. If you want to "deify" him that is your perogative I guess. But I prefer to think for myself. Truth is an elusive thing and easy to distort to the unwary and gullible. -RG "MOSFET" wrote in message m... RG, I have absolutely no idea what your beef with these two guys are, but frankly, it seems like it's personal or something. Clark and Navone were instrumental in helping develop the rules and standards for IASCA, which in turn influenced COUNTLESS car audio manufacturers. I have spoken to COUNTLESS competitors who were influenced by their ideas. I have already provided examples of their contributions and all you can say is " you're wrong, you must be joking, what a laugh " WITH NO PROOF OF YOUR OWN! Who the hell are you that I should accept what you say without any evidence, yet I need to provide extensive documentation and evidence because you say "you must be joking"? You have a hell of an ego, mister! MOSFET "RG" wrote in message ... ... you're not serious are you ? ... say it ain't so. -RG "MOSFET" wrote in message m... I don't know how old you are Howdy, or you RG, but one thing both of you CANNOT dispute (if you are at least around 40 years old) is that Richard Clark and David Navone were instrumental in bring car audio out of the "dark ages" of the eighties (EQ boosters, full-range subwoofer boxes, etc.) and helped bring about a the "car audio renaissance" of the early nineties where SQ became the driving force in the industry (as was the creation of IASCA). Regardless of what they did or did not actually "invent" themselves, their promotion of high-end autosound completely changed the industry. THAT IS UNDISPUTABLE! Trust me, without those two men, the industry WOULD look very different today, IMHO. MOSFET "Captain Howdy" wrote in message ... No insult taken, I don't need DSP unit's to get my sound stage right, in fact I don't even need an EQ. Richard Clark is a pioneer of nothing, and a noob of all. The funny thing about Richard Clark was that everytime he opened his mouth there was always someone there to prove him dumb. In article , "MOSFET" wrote: Howdy, this is TRULY not meant as an insult, but instead of trying to create the wheel here and start at square one, I would invite you to check out the writings of Richard Clark and David Navone (both acoustic and electrical engineers), two pioneers (might I say gods) in the area of hi-fi in the car. They have written EXTENSIVELY on the benefits of DSP, time correction, rear-fill and how it should be used, and many other aspects of high-end car audio. Now, if you have no idea who these guys are and could care less, OR think you know more than they do then I guess we have little more to discuss. MOSFET |
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Whats with Alpine ditching the time correction?
MOSFET wrote: I just checked the Alpine website and Crutchfield and you're right. What a SHAME! Looks like I bought my 9853 at the right time! Bass Engine Pro is soon to be a thing of the past! I'm afraid we are seeing in action what those snobby Audiophile have been moaning about for years: as a society, consumers are moving away from SQ in favor of convience, compatability and multi-formats. You'll notice that some of those new decks have Bluetooth compatibility, USB connections, etc. Now it appears the name of the game is to squeeze as many formats as possible into a HU, never mind the sound quality. MOSFET I'm just bitter. I have a company car and don't want to use kick panels. The time correction on the Alpines and Pioneer(I like Alpines better) really helped the imaging with the Ford speaker locations. |
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