"Bruce Abrams" wrote in message
news:9Ov7b.297825$cF.92706@rwcrnsc53 from rec.audio.high-end

I've often thought that if we eliminated (primarily because they've become
too predictable and boring) the discussions that invariably devolve into
DBT
debates, ie. cables, equipment "burn-in", amplifiers, green pens, etc.,
there would be precious few threads worth following.

I think what this poor sap is really saying is: If we eliminate discussions
of cables, equipment "burn-in", amplifiers, green pens, etc., there would be
precious little in audio that interests him.

Helllooo! Anybody home?

I thought that the audio hobby was about the search for realistic (or at
least emotionally-rewarding) reproduction of music, drama and current
events.

OK, so it has been conclusively found that differences in cables, equipment
"burn-in", amplifiers, digital audio players, green pens etc., are mostly
irrelevant to about the search for realistic reproduction of music, drama
and current events. So what?

It's not like differences in cables, equipment "burn-in", amplifiers,
digital audio players, green pens etc., are all there is in audio, is it?

Arny Krueger wrote:

"Bruce Abrams" wrote in message
news:9Ov7b.297825$cF.92706@rwcrnsc53 from rec.audio.high-end


I've often thought that if we eliminated (primarily because they've
become
too predictable and boring) the discussions that invariably devolve into

DBT

debates, ie. cables, equipment "burn-in", amplifiers, green pens, etc.,
there would be precious few threads worth following.


I think what this poor sap is really saying is: If we eliminate
discussions
of cables, equipment "burn-in", amplifiers, green pens, etc., there
would be
precious little in audio that interests him.

Helllooo! Anybody home?

I thought that the audio hobby was about the search for realistic (or at
least emotionally-rewarding) reproduction of music, drama and current
events.

OK, so it has been conclusively found that differences in cables,
equipment
"burn-in", amplifiers, digital audio players, green pens etc., are mostly
irrelevant to about the search for realistic reproduction of music, drama
and current events. So what?

It's not like differences in cables, equipment "burn-in", amplifiers,
digital audio players, green pens etc., are all there is in audio, is it?


Naturally, it's this level of stupidity that has made Bose a billion
dollar business.

Arny Krueger a écrit :

"Bruce Abrams" wrote in message
news:9Ov7b.297825$cF.92706@rwcrnsc53 from rec.audio.high-end


I've often thought that if we eliminated (primarily because they've become
too predictable and boring) the discussions that invariably devolve into

DBT

debates, ie. cables, equipment "burn-in", amplifiers, green pens, etc.,
there would be precious few threads worth following.


I think what this poor sap is really saying is: If we eliminate discussions
of cables, equipment "burn-in", amplifiers, green pens, etc., there would be
precious little in audio that interests him.

Helllooo! Anybody home?

I thought that the audio hobby was about the search for realistic (or at
least emotionally-rewarding) reproduction of music, drama and current
events.

OK, so it has been conclusively found that differences in cables, equipment
"burn-in", amplifiers, digital audio players, green pens etc., are mostly
irrelevant to about the search for realistic reproduction of music, drama
and current events. So what?

It's not like differences in cables, equipment "burn-in", amplifiers,
digital audio players, green pens etc., are all there is in audio, is it?




Arnold, tell him to come here, I'm going to fill up his free time ! :-)
Lionel

"trotsky" wrote in message
nk.net
Arny Krueger wrote:

"Bruce Abrams" wrote in message
news:9Ov7b.297825$cF.92706@rwcrnsc53 from rec.audio.high-end


I've often thought that if we eliminated (primarily because they've
become too predictable and boring) the discussions that invariably
devolve into DBT debates, ie. cables, equipment "burn-in", amplifiers,
green pens,
etc., there would be precious few threads worth following.

I think what this poor sap is really saying is: If we eliminate
discussions
of cables, equipment "burn-in", amplifiers, green pens, etc., there would
be
precious little in audio that interests him.

Helllooo! Anybody home?

I thought that the audio hobby was about the search for realistic
(or at least emotionally-rewarding) reproduction of music, drama
and current events.

OK, so it has been conclusively found that differences in cables,
equipment
"burn-in", amplifiers, digital audio players, green pens etc., are
mostly irrelevant to about the search for realistic reproduction of
music, drama and current events. So what?

It's not like differences in cables, equipment "burn-in", amplifiers,
digital audio players, green pens etc., are all there is in audio,
is it?

Naturally, it's this level of stupidity that has made Bose a billion
dollar business.

I agree that many sensible, pragmatic people look at the high end's
obsession with trivia like differences in cables, equipment "burn-in", magic
amplifiers that glow in the dark, digital audio players with blue lights,
green pens etc. and run right out and buy Bose and stuff like it.

They look at intellectually repulsive ragazines like TAS & SP and decide
that they want an audio system that lets them enjoy listening to music, not
a ringside seat at an exorcism.

Arny Krueger wrote:

"trotsky" wrote in message
nk.net



Naturally, it's this level of stupidity that has made Bose a billion
dollar business.


I agree that many sensible, pragmatic people look at the high end's
obsession with trivia like differences in cables, equipment "burn-in",
magic
amplifiers that glow in the dark, digital audio players with blue lights,
green pens etc. and run right out and buy Bose and stuff like it.

They look at intellectually repulsive ragazines like TAS & SP and decide
that they want an audio system that lets them enjoy listening to
music, not
a ringside seat at an exorcism.


You obviously have it all figured out, Kruegs. Why aren't you out there
preaching the gospel? All you've got is your really bad looking
website, with which you call yourself a "web publisher", but the fact
remains that your only way to make a living is buy selling knockoff
computers to your church congregation. Thus any time you criticize
anybody in the trenches making a living in the audio business you are
being completely phony and disingenuous, because you lack the mental
wherewithal to do so yourself, and instead criticize others' efforts
like a little bitch. Don't you have any explanation for your
exceptionally poor behavior?

"trotsky" wrote in message
nk.net...
Arny Krueger wrote:

"trotsky" wrote in message
nk.net
[snip]
Thus any time you criticize
anybody in the trenches making a living in the audio business you are
being completely phony and disingenuous, because you lack the mental
wherewithal to do so yourself, and instead criticize others' efforts
like a little bitch.

trotsky, you are phony and disingenous. Your "company" has no technical
standards at all.
Indeed, you make a mockery of the high end.

Arny Krueger a écrit :
"trotsky" wrote in message
nk.net

Arny Krueger wrote:


"Bruce Abrams" wrote in message
news:9Ov7b.297825$cF.92706@rwcrnsc53 from rec.audio.high-end



I've often thought that if we eliminated (primarily because they've
become too predictable and boring) the discussions that invariably
devolve into DBT debates, ie. cables, equipment "burn-in", amplifiers,

green pens,

etc., there would be precious few threads worth following.


I think what this poor sap is really saying is: If we eliminate

discussions

of cables, equipment "burn-in", amplifiers, green pens, etc., there would

be

precious little in audio that interests him.


Helllooo! Anybody home?


I thought that the audio hobby was about the search for realistic
(or at least emotionally-rewarding) reproduction of music, drama
and current events.


OK, so it has been conclusively found that differences in cables,
equipment
"burn-in", amplifiers, digital audio players, green pens etc., are
mostly irrelevant to about the search for realistic reproduction of
music, drama and current events. So what?


It's not like differences in cables, equipment "burn-in", amplifiers,
digital audio players, green pens etc., are all there is in audio,
is it?


Naturally, it's this level of stupidity that has made Bose a billion
dollar business.


I agree that many sensible, pragmatic people look at the high end's
obsession with trivia like differences in cables, equipment "burn-in", magic
amplifiers that glow in the dark, digital audio players with blue lights,
green pens etc. and run right out and buy Bose and stuff like it.

They look at intellectually repulsive ragazines like TAS & SP and decide
that they want an audio system that lets them enjoy listening to music, not
a ringside seat at an exorcism.


Everybody for the chorus:

Go go, go Arny go go go, go Arny go go go
Go Arny go go go, go Arny go go go
Arny B. Goode

http://mos-cmos.chez.tiscali.fr/Eddy.wmv

"trotsky" wrote in message
nk.net

Arny Krueger wrote:

"trotsky" wrote in message
nk.net

Naturally, it's this level of stupidity that has made Bose a billion
dollar business.

I agree that many sensible, pragmatic people look at the high end's
obsession with trivia like differences in cables, equipment "burn-in",
magic
amplifiers that glow in the dark, digital audio players with blue
lights, green pens etc. and run right out and buy Bose and stuff
like it.

They look at intellectually repulsive ragazines like TAS & SP and
decide that they want an audio system that lets them enjoy listening
to music, not a ringside seat at an exorcism.

You obviously have it all figured out, Kruegs.

Thank you.

Why aren't you out there preaching the gospel?

You don't feel *evangelized*?

;-)

All you've got is your really bad looking
website, with which you call yourself a "web publisher",

Actually, I have two web sites. One is a little plainer than the other, but
I'm about content, not glitz.

but the fact
remains that your only way to make a living is buy selling knockoff
computers to your church congregation.

That's not my marketing plan or fact, but for the purpose of friendly
discussion let's say that it was. Now compare that alleged plan which you
admit is in fact making me a living, with your plan which involves making an
idiot out of yourself by failing to hear a difference between different in
audio products you previously said was easy and obvious to hear, welshing on
a bet and getting fired from AFAIK the only audio job you ever had.

Now Singh you're trying to palm off these sad little overpriced MDF
squawk-boxes with a glitzy web site written in a new dialect of English I
call Singhlish.

Singhlish involves applying Bose 901 technology to written word.

As Bob Morein conclusively proved Singh, you've repeatedly used at least 9
words to do the job of 1 while obfuscating any responsibility you have for
standing behind the reliability of your product. This compares favorably
with the ability of the 9 drivers in a Bose 901 to obfuscate the sound of
music where 1 driver would probably do a clearer, better job.

Thus any time you criticize
anybody in the trenches making a living in the audio business you are
being completely phony and disingenuous, because you lack the mental
wherewithal to do so yourself, and instead criticize others' efforts
like a little bitch.

Where Singh is it written that I criticize *anybody* in the audio business
making a living?

BTW Singh, are you saying that you are just *anybody*? I thought you want us
to believe that you are not just *anybody* but someone *special*.

Don't I say enough nice things on RAO about audio gear that is IMO & IME
credible and useful?

How many pieces of audio gear have I praised and recommended just this week?

..
..

Didn't I start out saying nice things about your new web site, Singh? Isn't
I true that I started revealing my critical opinions only after you
gratuitously attacked my family?

..
..


Heck Singh, this current fuss started when I *agreed* with you!

Don't you have any explanation for your exceptionally poor behavior?

What poor behavior would that be Singh? Would that poor behavior be bending
over backward to agree with you when you finally said something that
actually made sense? How many years before this happens again?

Shouldn't I capitalize on the rare occasion I can actually agree with you,
Singh? Isn't doing nice things for you enemies a Christian thing to do?
I'll bet you didn't even notice...

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 10:26:57 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Didn't I start out saying nice things about your new web site, Singh? Isn't
I true that I started revealing my critical opinions only after you
gratuitously attacked my family?

So, basically you were lying.

Figures.

George M. Middius a écrit :


Bobo said:


trotsky, you are phony and disingenous. Your "company" has no technical
standards at all.
Indeed, you make a mockery of the high end.


Tell us again how Krooger is "a dangerous opponent". Your exact
words:


One could argue with Krueger for days, and he'll come back with charts,
figures, tables, and wav samples.
He is a dangerous opponent.


With an opinion like that, Bobo, you make yourself a laughingstock.
It's ridiculous for you to pontificate about what should or
shouldn't be considered "high end" when you can't tell Krooger from
a human being.


Middious I would like to remember you that yesterday you was gently
speaking about litterature with "Bobo", smoking cigars, drinking Cognac.
Have you well slept ?
Did you take your drugs this morning ?

dave weil wrote:

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 10:26:57 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:


Didn't I start out saying nice things about your new web site, Singh?
Isn't
I true that I started revealing my critical opinions only after you
gratuitously attacked my family?


So, basically you were lying.

Figures.



Remember, how can you tell when Arny is lying?

The lights on his modem are blinking.

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 10:26:57 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Didn't I start out saying nice things about your new web site,
Singh? Isn't I true that I started revealing my critical opinions
only after you gratuitously attacked my family?

So, basically you were lying.

Figures.

As usual Weil, you're fact-challenged.

Quote my first post on the subject if you dare.

Quote all of them, if you wish.

Try to find something I said that gives the lie to something else I said.

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 11:04:34 -0400, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 10:26:57 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Didn't I start out saying nice things about your new web site,
Singh? Isn't I true that I started revealing my critical opinions
only after you gratuitously attacked my family?

So, basically you were lying.

Figures.

As usual Weil, you're fact-challenged.

Quote my first post on the subject if you dare.

Quote all of them, if you wish.

Try to find something I said that gives the lie to something else I said.

Read what you wrote above and tell me you weren't lying when you
started saying nice things and then decided not to withhold
information and/or changed your tune regarding his new web site.

Bob Morein wrote:

"trotsky" wrote in message
nk.net...

Arny Krueger wrote:


"trotsky" wrote in message
link.net

[snip]
Thus any time you criticize

anybody in the trenches making a living in the audio business you are
being completely phony and disingenuous, because you lack the mental
wherewithal to do so yourself, and instead criticize others' efforts
like a little bitch.


trotsky, you are phony and disingenous. Your "company" has no technical
standards at all.
Indeed, you make a mockery of the high end.


Bob, you are getting slanderous here. If we need to take this to the
legal system, we can.

Arny Krueger wrote:

"trotsky" wrote in message
nk.net


Arny Krueger wrote:


"trotsky" wrote in message
link.net


Naturally, it's this level of stupidity that has made Bose a billion
dollar business.


I agree that many sensible, pragmatic people look at the high end's
obsession with trivia like differences in cables, equipment "burn-in",

magic

amplifiers that glow in the dark, digital audio players with blue
lights, green pens etc. and run right out and buy Bose and stuff
like it.


They look at intellectually repulsive ragazines like TAS & SP and
decide that they want an audio system that lets them enjoy listening
to music, not a ringside seat at an exorcism.


You obviously have it all figured out, Kruegs.


Thank you.


Why aren't you out there preaching the gospel?


You don't feel *evangelized*?

;-)



So at your house "evangelized" means "having feces flung at you as if
from a monkey"?




All you've got is your really bad looking
website, with which you call yourself a "web publisher",


Actually, I have two web sites. One is a little plainer than the
other, but
I'm about content, not glitz.


And are you actually listed as a not for profit group, or did it just
turn out that way?




but the fact
remains that your only way to make a living is buy selling knockoff
computers to your church congregation.


That's not my marketing plan or fact, but for the purpose of friendly
discussion let's say that it was. Now compare that alleged plan which you
admit is in fact making me a living, with your plan which involves
making an
idiot out of yourself by failing to hear a difference between different in
audio products you previously said was easy and obvious to hear,


In what ways are those two comparable, and how is referring to me as an
"idiot" and example of a "friendly discussion"? As ever, words fail to
describe just how ****ed up you are, Kruegs.


welshing on
a bet and getting fired from AFAIK the only audio job you ever had.

Now Singh you're trying to palm off these sad little overpriced MDF
squawk-boxes with a glitzy web site written in a new dialect of English I
call Singhlish.


And the Christian love continues.



Singhlish involves applying Bose 901 technology to written word.

As Bob Morein conclusively proved Singh, you've repeatedly used at least 9
words to do the job of 1 while obfuscating any responsibility you have for
standing behind the reliability of your product. This compares favorably
with the ability of the 9 drivers in a Bose 901 to obfuscate the sound of
music where 1 driver would probably do a clearer, better job.


Sure, my use of the language could only hope to come close to the
quality of your "Engineer's Prayer". Again, words fail to describe how
****ed in the head you really are.




Thus any time you criticize
anybody in the trenches making a living in the audio business you are
being completely phony and disingenuous, because you lack the mental
wherewithal to do so yourself, and instead criticize others' efforts
like a little bitch.


Where Singh is it written that I criticize *anybody* in the audio business
making a living?


Let's see, if we do a Google Groups search on your name and "snake oil"
how many hits will come up? Are you on crack? (No, I'm not talking
about your wife.)



BTW Singh, are you saying that you are just *anybody*? I thought you
want us
to believe that you are not just *anybody* but someone *special*.


You're having problems with the English language again, Kruegs.



Don't I say enough nice things on RAO about audio gear that is IMO & IME
credible and useful?


You are a purveyor of trash, Arny. In my opinion, of course.




How many pieces of audio gear have I praised and recommended just this
week?


Who gives a ****?



.
.

Didn't I start out saying nice things about your new web site, Singh?
Isn't
I true that I started revealing my critical opinions only after you
gratuitously attacked my family?


That's revisionist history, Arny. And why is one connected to the
other? Do you only deal in facts on a provisional basis, and those
provisions aren't meant, you go straight to the lies? You just made
yourself look very bad here, Krueger.



.
.


Heck Singh, this current fuss started when I *agreed* with you!


That's a cause for alarm right there. I would appreciate it, though, if
you could spell out for the group which were the lies that you told
about me, because I didn't meet your provisional requirements about your
family. Be as specific as possible, please.




Don't you have any explanation for your exceptionally poor behavior?


What poor behavior would that be Singh?


The lies outlined above.

Would that poor behavior be bending
over backward to agree with you when you finally said something that
actually made sense? How many years before this happens again?


Before you stop lying, you mean?



Shouldn't I capitalize on the rare occasion I can actually agree with you,
Singh? Isn't doing nice things for you enemies a Christian thing to do?
I'll bet you didn't even notice...


Telling the truth is non-denominational, Kruegs. Nice try, though. Do
you specifically worship Satan or not?

trotsky said:

trotsky, you are phony and disingenous. Your "company" has no
technical standards at all.
Indeed, you make a mockery of the high end.

Bob, you are getting slanderous here. If we need to take this to the
legal system, we can.

Those are clearly opinions.

In your opinion. Which you stated as fact.

Sorry, you lose. Whether a statement is an opinion or a fact is a
matter of fact, not opinion. It's a fact that Bobo's statements are
opinions. But if you truly disagree, why don't you explicitly tell
us which of his statements are not opinions. Here they are again:

1. trotsky, you are phony and disingenous.

2. Your "company" has no technical standards at all.

3. Indeed, you make a mockery of the high end.

Which one (or ones) are the non-opinions?


Do you need to go on a marble hunt?

Here's another opinion: rao
isn't much of a high horse.

There's also another RAO regular who utters incomprehensible
nonsequiturs with alarming frequency. That is, we might be alarmed
if we didn't already know he's insane. What's your excuse?


You lose.
Again.™

Lack of response noted.


If you want my advice, you should tear into Bobo for the sugar
coating he gave the Krooger Problem.

And if you want my advice, you should tear into Bob for being too
gutless to show us his products--his screenplays.

What does that have to do with audio? You're the one who requested
comments from the group.

Here's another suggestion: Cut short all the discussions about the
speakers themselves by saying you only wanted comments on the Web
site. After all, it's the market of audio consumers who will decide
if your speakers are what they want. Predictions and
prognostications of market performance are just another form of
thought experiment that the 'borgs worship, not much different from
their other predictions that your speakers will sound lame.

George M. Middius wrote:

trotsky said:


trotsky, you are phony and disingenous. Your "company" has no
technical standards at all.
Indeed, you make a mockery of the high end.


Bob, you are getting slanderous here. If we need to take this to the
legal system, we can.


Those are clearly opinions.



In your opinion. Which you stated as fact.


Sorry, you lose. Whether a statement is an opinion or a fact is a
matter of fact, not opinion. It's a fact that Bobo's statements are
opinions. But if you truly disagree, why don't you explicitly tell
us which of his statements are not opinions. Here they are again:

1. trotsky, you are phony and disingenous.

2. Your "company" has no technical standards at all.

3. Indeed, you make a mockery of the high end.

Which one (or ones) are the non-opinions?


George, you're interesting, but only interesting in the way that peeling
off a painful scab is interesting. If the subject line of this thread
isn't slander, I don't know what is. But please, if you can tell us
more about your credentials as a lawyer, English teacher, or whatever,
please do.


Do you need to go on a marble hunt?


So you can find the rest of yours, you mean? You're on your own on that
one.


Here's another opinion: rao
isn't much of a high horse.


There's also another RAO regular who utters incomprehensible
nonsequiturs with alarming frequency. That is, we might be alarmed
if we didn't already know he's insane. What's your excuse?


I'm insane too. I'm in the audio biz, so that's by definition.


You lose.
Again.™


Lack of response noted.


To your plagiarizing weil's characteristic response? What am I supposed
to say? Somebody that has respect for the English language and that
condones plagiarism has some serious issues to sort through.


If you want my advice, you should tear into Bobo for the sugar
coating he gave the Krooger Problem.



And if you want my advice, you should tear into Bob for being too
gutless to show us his products--his screenplays.


What does that have to do with audio? You're the one who requested
comments from the group.


Oh, right, you're the on topic police. How could I have missed that?


Here's another suggestion: Cut short all the discussions about the
speakers themselves by saying you only wanted comments on the Web
site. After all, it's the market of audio consumers who will decide
if your speakers are what they want. Predictions and
prognostications of market performance are just another form of
thought experiment that the 'borgs worship, not much different from
their other predictions that your speakers will sound lame.


This last bit is well stated, but you have to know I only expected the
worst when I posted here. What other choices are there? As it is, I
got quite a bit of useful feedback from quite a few contributors, for
which I feel lucky. Now I'm just trying to mop the floor with the rest
of the turds, mostly just for old time's sake.

trotsky flubs his simple assignment.

Bob, you are getting slanderous here. If we need to take this to the
legal system, we can.


Those are clearly opinions.



In your opinion. Which you stated as fact.


Sorry, you lose. Whether a statement is an opinion or a fact is a
matter of fact, not opinion. It's a fact that Bobo's statements are
opinions. But if you truly disagree, why don't you explicitly tell
us which of his statements are not opinions. Here they are again:

1. trotsky, you are phony and disingenous.

2. Your "company" has no technical standards at all.

3. Indeed, you make a mockery of the high end.

Which one (or ones) are the non-opinions?


George, you're interesting, but only interesting in the way that peeling
off a painful scab is interesting.

Which one (or ones) are the non-opinions?

If the subject line of this thread
isn't slander, I don't know what is.

Changing the subject again.

But please, if you can tell us
more about your credentials as a lawyer, English teacher, or whatever,
please do.

Random nonsequitur.


Hey, here's a deal: I'll trade you my own personal blatherskite
("Lionel") for Bobo and fake-Bobo. Deal?

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 18:22:46 GMT, trotsky wrote:



George M. Middius wrote:

trotsky said:


trotsky, you are phony and disingenous. Your "company" has no
technical standards at all.
Indeed, you make a mockery of the high end.


Bob, you are getting slanderous here. If we need to take this to the
legal system, we can.


Those are clearly opinions.



In your opinion. Which you stated as fact.


Sorry, you lose. Whether a statement is an opinion or a fact is a
matter of fact, not opinion. It's a fact that Bobo's statements are
opinions. But if you truly disagree, why don't you explicitly tell
us which of his statements are not opinions. Here they are again:

1. trotsky, you are phony and disingenous.

2. Your "company" has no technical standards at all.

3. Indeed, you make a mockery of the high end.

Which one (or ones) are the non-opinions?


George, you're interesting, but only interesting in the way that peeling
off a painful scab is interesting. If the subject line of this thread
isn't slander, I don't know what is.

Wouldn't it be libel?

In article ,
dave weil wrote:

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 13:59:58 -0400, George M. Middius
wrote:

Here's another opinion: rao
isn't much of a high horse.

There's also another RAO regular who utters incomprehensible
nonsequiturs with alarming frequency. That is, we might be alarmed
if we didn't already know he's insane.

I am not. I'm just "off-center".

But thanks for the vote of confidence.

Van Gogh, I'm not.

I thought I was incomprehensible.

Stephen

George M. Middius a écrit :

trotsky said:


trotsky, you are phony and disingenous. Your "company" has no
technical standards at all.
Indeed, you make a mockery of the high end.


Bob, you are getting slanderous here. If we need to take this to the
legal system, we can.


Those are clearly opinions.



In your opinion. Which you stated as fact.


Sorry, you lose. Whether a statement is an opinion or a fact is a
matter of fact, not opinion. It's a fact that Bobo's statements are
opinions. But if you truly disagree, why don't you explicitly tell
us which of his statements are not opinions. Here they are again:

1. trotsky, you are phony and disingenous.

2. Your "company" has no technical standards at all.

3. Indeed, you make a mockery of the high end.

Which one (or ones) are the non-opinions?


Do you need to go on a marble hunt?


Here's another opinion: rao
isn't much of a high horse.


There's also another RAO regular who utters incomprehensible
nonsequiturs with alarming frequency. That is, we might be alarmed
if we didn't already know he's insane. What's your excuse?



You lose.
Again.™


Lack of response noted.



If you want my advice, you should tear into Bobo for the sugar
coating he gave the Krooger Problem.



And if you want my advice, you should tear into Bob for being too
gutless to show us his products--his screenplays.


What does that have to do with audio? You're the one who requested
comments from the group.

Here's another suggestion: Cut short all the discussions about the
speakers themselves by saying you only wanted comments on the Web
site. After all, it's the market of audio consumers who will decide
if your speakers are what they want. Predictions and
prognostications of market performance are just another form of
thought experiment that the 'borgs worship, not much different from
their other predictions that your speakers will sound lame.



Who is insane Middious ?
I hope you don't speak of me ?
I am doing the same job you use to do on RAO, nothing really different !
I do that since about 3 weeks you do that since 7 years !
Who is insane Middious ? In the last 3 days you have had 2 friends they
are now 2 enemies ! Are you really different from Krueger ?

With facts and figures can you explain to everybody what are the
differences between me and you.
I already told you that Middious, Arnold Krueger can justify his daily
presence on RAO, you cannot !
Arnold Krueger has a name and a face, you are nothing but an ectoplasm.
Arnold Krueger has a wife, a daughter, a church, a past, a futur... all
these small things which make a real life. What about you, Georgie, does
anybody on RAO can say anything about your life ?
You are a forgery Middious. Not a forgery like Brian L. McCarty but a
pathetic forgery of a human being.
If you want that I stop and leave let me have an answer to the above...
I guess I will stay a little bit longer because I'm sure you cannot !
*COWARD* !

dave weil a écrit :

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 13:59:58 -0400, George M. Middius
wrote:


Here's another opinion: rao
isn't much of a high horse.

There's also another RAO regular who utters incomprehensible
nonsequiturs with alarming frequency. That is, we might be alarmed
if we didn't already know he's insane.


I am not. I'm just "off-center".

But thanks for the vote of confidence.

Van Gogh, I'm not.

Dave "Ponce Pilate" Weil

MiNE 109 said:

There's also another RAO regular who utters incomprehensible
nonsequiturs with alarming frequency. That is, we might be alarmed
if we didn't already know he's insane.

I am not. I'm just "off-center".

But thanks for the vote of confidence.

Van Gogh, I'm not.

I thought I was incomprehensible.

I thought you were prissy.

You should be working Trosky.

You are at the head of a small businness you should work at least 10 to
12 hours a day.
Everybody know that on RAO, this explains why everybody know that your
Web site, your speakers, your futur are nothing but phantasms.

Don't waste your time you should start working hard perhaps it's not
already to late !

George M. Middius wrote:

trotsky flubs his simple assignment.


Bob, you are getting slanderous here. If we need to take this to the
legal system, we can.

Those are clearly opinions.



In your opinion. Which you stated as fact.


Sorry, you lose. Whether a statement is an opinion or a fact is a
matter of fact, not opinion. It's a fact that Bobo's statements are
opinions. But if you truly disagree, why don't you explicitly tell
us which of his statements are not opinions. Here they are again:

1. trotsky, you are phony and disingenous.

2. Your "company" has no technical standards at all.

3. Indeed, you make a mockery of the high end.

Which one (or ones) are the non-opinions?


George, you're interesting, but only interesting in the way that peeling
off a painful scab is interesting.


Which one (or ones) are the non-opinions?


If the subject line of this thread
isn't slander, I don't know what is.


Changing the subject again.


Changing the subject? What's the first statement from me in this post,
George? I really can't figure you out--sometimes you come off as just
plain stupid. Bob Morion is slandering my company. You're mentally
masturbating about it. Case closed.


But please, if you can tell us
more about your credentials as a lawyer, English teacher, or whatever,
please do.


Random nonsequitur.


Hey, here's a deal: I'll trade you my own personal blatherskite
("Lionel") for Bobo and fake-Bobo. Deal?


I don't make deals.

dave weil wrote:
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 18:22:46 GMT, trotsky wrote:



George M. Middius wrote:

trotsky said:



trotsky, you are phony and disingenous. Your "company" has no
technical standards at all.
Indeed, you make a mockery of the high end.

Bob, you are getting slanderous here. If we need to take this to the
legal system, we can.

Those are clearly opinions.



In your opinion. Which you stated as fact.


Sorry, you lose. Whether a statement is an opinion or a fact is a
matter of fact, not opinion. It's a fact that Bobo's statements are
opinions. But if you truly disagree, why don't you explicitly tell
us which of his statements are not opinions. Here they are again:

1. trotsky, you are phony and disingenous.

2. Your "company" has no technical standards at all.

3. Indeed, you make a mockery of the high end.

Which one (or ones) are the non-opinions?


George, you're interesting, but only interesting in the way that peeling
off a painful scab is interesting. If the subject line of this thread
isn't slander, I don't know what is.


Wouldn't it be libel?


Which is the one that appears in print?

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 19:41:51 GMT, trotsky wrote:



dave weil wrote:
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 18:22:46 GMT, trotsky wrote:



George M. Middius wrote:

trotsky said:



trotsky, you are phony and disingenous. Your "company" has no
technical standards at all.
Indeed, you make a mockery of the high end.

Bob, you are getting slanderous here. If we need to take this to the
legal system, we can.

Those are clearly opinions.



In your opinion. Which you stated as fact.


Sorry, you lose. Whether a statement is an opinion or a fact is a
matter of fact, not opinion. It's a fact that Bobo's statements are
opinions. But if you truly disagree, why don't you explicitly tell
us which of his statements are not opinions. Here they are again:

1. trotsky, you are phony and disingenous.

2. Your "company" has no technical standards at all.

3. Indeed, you make a mockery of the high end.

Which one (or ones) are the non-opinions?


George, you're interesting, but only interesting in the way that peeling
off a painful scab is interesting. If the subject line of this thread
isn't slander, I don't know what is.


Wouldn't it be libel?


Which is the one that appears in print?

Libel.

trotsky a écrit :


George M. Middius wrote:

Hey, here's a deal: I'll trade you my own personal blatherskite
("Lionel") for Bobo and fake-Bobo. Deal?



I don't make deals.



I don't want you.
You remember me my life ! Too much !
LOL !

George M. Middius wrote:

trotsky said:


Wouldn't it be libel?



Which is the one that appears in print?


God, are you stupid.


Good luck finding those marbles. And my bad for discussing something on
a discussion group.

dave weil wrote:
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 19:41:51 GMT, trotsky wrote:



dave weil wrote:

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 18:22:46 GMT, trotsky wrote:

George, you're interesting, but only interesting in the way that peeling
off a painful scab is interesting. If the subject line of this thread
isn't slander, I don't know what is.


Wouldn't it be libel?


Which is the one that appears in print?


Libel.


Okay, we'll go with that then. You do realize that just by discussing
this George will accuse you of going against his slander=opinions
hypothesis, right?

"trotsky" wrote in message
nk.net...

..


Bob, you are getting slanderous here. If we need to take this to the
legal system, we can.


hah! Like he really has some assets to protect.
The guy's been out of work for thirty years.




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"trotsky" wrote in message
nk.net...
Bob Morein wrote:

"trotsky" wrote in message
nk.net...

Arny Krueger wrote:


"trotsky" wrote in message
link.net

[snip]
Thus any time you criticize

anybody in the trenches making a living in the audio business you are
being completely phony and disingenuous, because you lack the mental
wherewithal to do so yourself, and instead criticize others' efforts
like a little bitch.


trotsky, you are phony and disingenous. Your "company" has no technical
standards at all.
Indeed, you make a mockery of the high end.


Bob, you are getting slanderous here. If we need to take this to the
legal system, we can.

Go ahead. Try me.
I'll say it again. You are phony and disingenous.

Marc Phillips said:

Careful, Greg. This is the forty-year-old who's still suing his ****ing
college.

Actually, Bobo is 50. And he lives in his parents' basement.

In article ,
George M. Middius wrote:

MiNE 109 said:

There's also another RAO regular who utters incomprehensible
nonsequiturs with alarming frequency. That is, we might be alarmed
if we didn't already know he's insane.

I am not. I'm just "off-center".

But thanks for the vote of confidence.

Van Gogh, I'm not.

I thought I was incomprehensible.

I thought you were prissy.

Moi? If I were prissy could I post this?:

http://tinyurl.com/n2jb

Stephen

Mr. Middius said:

Marc Phillips said:

Careful, Greg. This is the forty-year-old who's still suing his ****ing
college.

Actually, Bobo is 50. And he lives in his parents' basement.

In other words, copious amounts of free time.

Boon

MiNE 109 said:

I thought I was incomprehensible.

I thought you were prissy.

Moi? If I were prissy could I post this?:

http://tinyurl.com/n2jb

Gregipus is the RAO's Foremost Auditor of Prissiness, so I'll leave
the judgment to him.

Marc Phillips said:

Actually, Bobo is 50. And he lives in his parents' basement.

In other words, copious amounts of free time.

Unless he spends 10 hours a day in a hazy heroin high. We just don't
know, do we?

Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:

"trotsky" wrote in message
news
And if you want my advice, you should tear into Bob for being too
gutless to show us his products--his screenplays.



The screen adaptatioin for "Attack of the Rockoids".



No doubt--the whole six part series.

Bob Morein wrote:

"trotsky" wrote in message
nk.net...

Bob Morein wrote:


"trotsky" wrote in message
link.net...


Arny Krueger wrote:



"trotsky" wrote in message
thlink.net

[snip]
Thus any time you criticize


anybody in the trenches making a living in the audio business you are
being completely phony and disingenuous, because you lack the mental
wherewithal to do so yourself, and instead criticize others' efforts
like a little bitch.


trotsky, you are phony and disingenous. Your "company" has no technical
standards at all.
Indeed, you make a mockery of the high end.


Bob, you are getting slanderous here. If we need to take this to the
legal system, we can.


Go ahead. Try me.
I'll say it again. You are phony and disingenous.


That's why you'll never be a good writer, Bob. I as genuine a guy as
you'll ever meet. I can also read people like a book, while you're fast
proving yourself an illiterate in this regard.

Marc Phillips wrote:

Bob Morein said:


"trotsky" wrote in message
ink.net...

Bob Morein wrote:


"trotsky" wrote in message
hlink.net...


Arny Krueger wrote:



"trotsky" wrote in message
rthlink.net

[snip]
Thus any time you criticize


anybody in the trenches making a living in the audio business you are
being completely phony and disingenuous, because you lack the mental
wherewithal to do so yourself, and instead criticize others' efforts
like a little bitch.


trotsky, you are phony and disingenous. Your "company" has no technical
standards at all.
Indeed, you make a mockery of the high end.


Bob, you are getting slanderous here. If we need to take this to the
legal system, we can.


Go ahead. Try me.
I'll say it again. You are phony and disingenous.


Careful, Greg. This is the forty-year-old who's still suing his ****ing
college.


I thought he said he was 51, which makes it that much worse. Bob's
turning out to be cheesier than a bad case of smegma.