[mcp6453[_2_]]

I just heard "Rhythm Nation" by Janet Jackson for the first time. When I loaded
it into Adobe Audition, I couldn't believe what I saw with regard to hard
limiting and clipping. It ought to be illegal.

[Les Cargill[_4_]]

mcp6453 wrote:
I just heard "Rhythm Nation" by Janet Jackson for the first time. When I loaded
it into Adobe Audition, I couldn't believe what I saw with regard to hard
limiting and clipping. It ought to be illegal.


You have to turn all the bits on. There are poor children in the Third
World starving for bits.

--
Les Cargill

[Frank Stearns]

mcp6453 writes:

I just heard "Rhythm Nation" by Janet Jackson for the first time. When I loaded
it into Adobe Audition, I couldn't believe what I saw with regard to hard
limiting and clipping. It ought to be illegal.


Short-lived digital media to the rescue!

IMO a great deal of this junk will have the same appeal as the vacuous instrumental
pop music of the 1920s. (You sure don't hear a lot of that, and when you do, you
understand why it's rare. g)

So, with today's 3-6 year average life cycle of hard drives, burned optical media,
DAT tapes, etc, we'll actually have an accelerated "filter of time" applied to
today's crop of junk.

OTOH if it's great material -- if it's great art that moves people to think of it as
something better than modulated white noise to have playing in the background --
hopefully one or more of those people will love it enough to shepard it through such
fragile media (in terms of robost storage over time) and take the pains to monitor
and periodically transfer to new media.

Better yet, they'll want to keep performing it down through the generations. I
often record live performances of music written 300+ years ago. Now that's staying
power. There's something universal and timeless about music than can live
to inspire repeated performances down through the ages.

How much of today's pop music is treated seriously in such a manner?

Frank
Mobile Audio

--

[ChrisCoaster]

On Jun 3, 9:04*pm, mcp6453 wrote:
I just heard "Rhythm Nation" by Janet Jackson for the first time. When I loaded
it into Adobe Audition, I couldn't believe what I saw with regard to hard
limiting and clipping. It ought to be illegal.

What did you "load into" Adobe Audition - the original CD release from
back in 1989? A digital remaster of that CD(you can tell if it says
remaster or if the copyright date is later than 1989)? Or did you
purchase the digital album off Amazon?

Just curious.

-CC

[mcp6453[_2_]]

On 6/5/2011 6:30 PM, ChrisCoaster wrote:
On Jun 3, 9:04 pm, mcp6453 wrote:
I just heard "Rhythm Nation" by Janet Jackson for the first time. When I loaded
it into Adobe Audition, I couldn't believe what I saw with regard to hard
limiting and clipping. It ought to be illegal.

What did you "load into" Adobe Audition - the original CD release from
back in 1989? A digital remaster of that CD(you can tell if it says
remaster or if the copyright date is later than 1989)? Or did you
purchase the digital album off Amazon?

Just curious.

It's a rip from a CD, but I don't know which one as my CDs are all stored in
boxes in storage. It does make me want to go through the boxes, find the CD, and
burn it. You can rest assured it was not purchased off of Amazon.

[ChrisCoaster]

On Jun 6, 7:02*am, mcp6453 wrote:

It's a rip from a CD, but I don't know which one as my CDs are all stored in
boxes in storage. It does make me want to go through the boxes, find the CD, and
burn it. You can rest assured it was not purchased off of Amazon.
_______________________

Good first step. If/when you do go through storage find that
copyright date!! And look everywhere on that disc for a later year -
if so, that means it's a reissue and may have had some "re-
mastering" (:z) done to it. LOL

-CC

[vdubreeze]

I think the main reason those Jam/Lewis records sound good even when
squashed is that they're not quantized. They'd play synth bass parts
straight to tape. Keys and even drum pad fills too. That's why they
just rose above a lot of the other similar stuff from that era.

I don't remember the original sounding badly over limited. Any
chance the meters are being more cautionary that truly accurate to
the .01 ?