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I need help from the specialists on this group.
Please download and examine the following WAV file; http://www.c-compiler.com/myfiles/stgeorges-201219.WAV I want to convert this to an MP3 file. Please tell me what settings I should use for the MP3 file, eg; MP3 Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec (professional), attributes eg 128 kbit/sec, 48.000 Hz, Mono Please try to give specfic advice, because my understanding of audio formats is poor, and I need guidance as to the best MP3 parameters for this conversion. Thank you for your help. |
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On 1/3/2020 4:05 PM, lid wrote:
I want to convert this to an MP3 file. Please tell me what settings I should use for the MP3 file, eg; MP3 Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec (professional), attributes eg 128 kbit/sec, 48.000 Hz, Mono If you take Don's advice to use the defaults (and his advice is perfectly reasonable) you'll likely end up with a stereo file with the same audio on both channels. There's nothing wrong with that other than that the file is twice as big as it needs to be. So if you want a mono MP3 file, you'll need to find the setting for it. As far as bit rate is concerned, 128 kbps is roughly equivalent in quality to a high quality cassette, though distortion characteristics are different. Sadly, that's good enough for most listeners, and better than a good many of them get through streams and downloads. In many listening tests, all but the most skilled listeners, when comparing a CD with a 192 kbps 44.1 or 48 kHz MP3 file, can't accurately identify which is which. When I make MP3 files to listen to in my car or on a plane, I use 128 kbps. I usually use Audacity by importing the WAV file, then exporting it as an MP3. It gives you the choice of stereo or mono and a choice of bit rates. I don't think it converts sample rate (you can't import a 44.1 kHz WAV file and export it as a 48 kHz MP3). Bit rate can either be fixed (64, 128, 192, 256, etc kbps) or variable. Variable can provide slightly better fidelity - the encoder gives you a little extra resolution when it thinks it's advantageous, but saves space by not running at a high bit rate all the time. I use fixed bit rates because I know everything can play them. So for "plenty good enough" use 128 kbps, fixed rate, or for the peanut gallery, they won't know the difference, other than in time it takes to download or space it takes on a drive, between 64 and 128 kbps. -- For a good time, call http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com |
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Real Player Converter is also good - if still available.
Converts WAV, AIFF, etc to MP3, etc. I've had it for nearly ten years, but since the last five years, it converts video files only to audio, for some reason. |
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You can also change the sample rate down on Goldwave, and I'd actually
suggest 192kbits for reasonable stuff, but if you want quality avoid mp3, use Flac but this does have issues as not all devices can play them due to a much larger memory demand at decode time. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Mike Rivers" wrote in message ... On 1/3/2020 4:05 PM, lid wrote: I want to convert this to an MP3 file. Please tell me what settings I should use for the MP3 file, eg; MP3 Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec (professional), attributes eg 128 kbit/sec, 48.000 Hz, Mono If you take Don's advice to use the defaults (and his advice is perfectly reasonable) you'll likely end up with a stereo file with the same audio on both channels. There's nothing wrong with that other than that the file is twice as big as it needs to be. So if you want a mono MP3 file, you'll need to find the setting for it. As far as bit rate is concerned, 128 kbps is roughly equivalent in quality to a high quality cassette, though distortion characteristics are different. Sadly, that's good enough for most listeners, and better than a good many of them get through streams and downloads. In many listening tests, all but the most skilled listeners, when comparing a CD with a 192 kbps 44.1 or 48 kHz MP3 file, can't accurately identify which is which. When I make MP3 files to listen to in my car or on a plane, I use 128 kbps. I usually use Audacity by importing the WAV file, then exporting it as an MP3. It gives you the choice of stereo or mono and a choice of bit rates. I don't think it converts sample rate (you can't import a 44.1 kHz WAV file and export it as a 48 kHz MP3). Bit rate can either be fixed (64, 128, 192, 256, etc kbps) or variable. Variable can provide slightly better fidelity - the encoder gives you a little extra resolution when it thinks it's advantageous, but saves space by not running at a high bit rate all the time. I use fixed bit rates because I know everything can play them. So for "plenty good enough" use 128 kbps, fixed rate, or for the peanut gallery, they won't know the difference, other than in time it takes to download or space it takes on a drive, between 64 and 128 kbps. -- For a good time, call http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com |
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On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 17:05:03 -0500, Mike Rivers
wrote: On 1/3/2020 4:05 PM, lid wrote: I want to convert this to an MP3 file. Please tell me what settings I should use for the MP3 file, eg; MP3 Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec (professional), attributes eg 128 kbit/sec, 48.000 Hz, Mono If you take Don's advice to use the defaults (and his advice is perfectly reasonable) you'll likely end up with a stereo file with the same audio on both channels. There's nothing wrong with that other than that the file is twice as big as it needs to be. So if you want a mono MP3 file, you'll need to find the setting for it. Where can I find the authentic site for Razor LAME? A couple of sites which Google threw up are; https://www.free-codecs.com/download/razorlame.htm https://lame.sourceforge.io/ What is the main development / release / distribution site for Razor LAME? Is there some other LAME package which I should use instead of Razor? Thank you. |
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On 1/11/2020 1:56 AM, lid wrote:
Where can I find the authentic site for Razor LAME? https://lame.sourceforge.io/ What is the main development / release / distribution site for Razor LAME? Is there some other LAME package which I should use instead of Razor? Sourceforge is the official LAME development and support web site. If you get the encoder there, you'll be getting the genuine article. The basic LAME encoder can be run from a command line, but it's really intended to be used with some other supporting application like Audacity (which is a full out audio recorder and editor). Razor is a graphic front end for LAME so you don't need to install another program if you just want to encode files that you have on your computer. It uses the genuine LAME encoder code, so the encoded quality will be the same as any other program that uses LAME. If you're concerned about the "legitimacy" of the download site, you're probably safe with the link from the Sourceforge web site: http://www.dors.de/razorlame/index.php WinLame is another GUI front end for LAME from the Sourceforge group: https://winlame.sourceforge.io/ |
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On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 06:43:05 -0800, Mike Rivers
wrote: On 1/11/2020 1:56 AM, lid wrote: Where can I find the authentic site for Razor LAME? https://lame.sourceforge.io/ What is the main development / release / distribution site for Razor LAME? Is there some other LAME package which I should use instead of Razor? Sourceforge is the official LAME development and support web site. If you get the encoder there, you'll be getting the genuine article. The basic LAME encoder can be run from a command line, but it's really intended to be used with some other supporting application like Audacity (which is a full out audio recorder and editor). Razor is a graphic front end for LAME so you don't need to install another program if you just want to encode files that you have on your computer. It uses the genuine LAME encoder code, so the encoded quality will be the same as any other program that uses LAME. If you're concerned about the "legitimacy" of the download site, you're probably safe with the link from the Sourceforge web site: http://www.dors.de/razorlame/index.php I looked at; http://www.dors.de/razorlame/index.php and the website is empty. All it says is; "Not much here, I'm afraid!" I have previously used Razor LAME 1.1.5, dated 2003. I would like to upgrade to the latest version. I prefer to use Razor LAME because I've already used the product and am comfortable with it. If there is no authentic site for Razor, which website could I trust for an app to run safely on my PC? |
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2020-01-11 /10:56 lid:
Where can I find the authentic site for Razor LAME? A couple of sites which Google threw up are; https://www.free-codecs.com/download/razorlame.htm https://lame.sourceforge.io/ What is the main development / release / distribution site for Razor LAME? Is there some other LAME package which I should use instead of Razor? Thank you. The Sourceforge project page seems to be as official as it gets - BUT it is rather intended for programmers, who want to compile the *source code* themselves. Yes, there´s a .bat file included in the .tar.gz to encode from, but there are more comfortable ways to use the LAME codec. https://lame.sourceforge.io/links.php lists quite a few programs for various OS, which use the LAME codec - just assume, they didn´t change anything in the actual codec code... My suggestion is still the same as 1 week ago: get "LameDropXPd", as it is IMHO the easiest and quickest method to encode LAME MP3 files under Windows - it has the latest LAME version - is freeware (and absoluteley harmless) - just works as expected - it can even batch encode multiple file you drop on its window, at once or after each other, while another file is being processed. - does NOT require installation or does anything to Windows´ registry After 15+ years of use, I have not yet encountered a situation, where the resulting files could not be played, so it should be safe enough for creating MP3 files to embed in HTML pages and compatible to most systems. Just set all options to maximum quality and Constant Bit Rate and everything should be fine - if you want samller file size, reduce encoding quality, until there is an acceptable ratio between sound quality and file size. If you insist on using "dead" (as in no official website or development anymore) software llike RazorLame, that´s your choice. For myself, I would rather use software like Lamedrop, which at least gets updated every few months or years, shortly after a new version of the Lame codec is released - and also puts only 2 files on my computer rather than a whole folder. just go ahead, try it and hopefully be happy with it and get the actual job done! ;-) Phil |
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Where can I find the authentic site for Razor LAME? A couple of sites which Google threw up are; https://www.free-codecs.com/download/razorlame.htm https://lame.sourceforge.io/ The definitive site is going to be sourceforge, but likely you just want a quick binary distribution. The sourceforge site will probably tell you where you can get such a thing. That said, the LAME encoder is integrated into so many pieces of software out there that there is seldom a real need to use the standalone one. If you have the latest release of Audacity there's already a LAME encoder part of it. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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On Fri 03/01/2020 21:05, lid wrote:
I need help from the specialists on this group. Please download and examine the following WAV file; http://www.c-compiler.com/myfiles/stgeorges-201219.WAV I want to convert this to an MP3 file. Please tell me what settings I should use for the MP3 file, eg; MP3 Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec (professional), attributes eg 128 kbit/sec, 48.000 Hz, Mono Please try to give specfic advice, because my understanding of audio formats is poor, and I need guidance as to the best MP3 parameters for this conversion. Thank you for your help. Download Audacity - its free and will do everything you need. Import the wav file, highlight it all, got to Tracks/Mix/Mix stereo down to mono, then export the finished product and set the bit rate to whatever you want at that point. Job done. -- Woody harrogate three at ntlworld dot com |
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I need help from the specialists on this group. Please download and examine the following WAV file; http://www.c-compiler.com/myfiles/stgeorges-201219.WAV I want to convert this to an MP3 file. Please tell me what settings I should use for the MP3 file, eg; MP3 Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec (professional), attributes eg 128 kbit/sec, 48.000 Hz, Mono Please try to give specfic advice, because my understanding of audio formats is poor, and I need guidance as to the best MP3 parameters for this conversion. This is basically what a mastering engineer does. The mastering engineer will listen to different codecs and make encoding adjustments (each of the codecs has several hundred settings) in order to get the encoding as transparent as possible. It sounds to me like you are asking someone to do the job of a mastering engineer for you, without paying them. This is not likely to happen. My suggestion is that if you don't care about streaming that you just use the highest bit rate available, use the LAME encoder, and it won't be horrible. If you care about streaming and want compromises to be made in a reasonable fashion, you will get what you pay for. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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On 4/01/2020 1:59 pm, Scott Dorsey wrote:
wrote: I need help from the specialists on this group. Please download and examine the following WAV file; http://www.c-compiler.com/myfiles/stgeorges-201219.WAV I want to convert this to an MP3 file. Please tell me what settings I should use for the MP3 file, eg; MP3 Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec (professional), attributes eg 128 kbit/sec, 48.000 Hz, Mono Please try to give specfic advice, because my understanding of audio formats is poor, and I need guidance as to the best MP3 parameters for this conversion. This is basically what a mastering engineer does. The mastering engineer will listen to different codecs and make encoding adjustments (each of the codecs has several hundred settings) in order to get the encoding as transparent as possible. It sounds to me like you are asking someone to do the job of a mastering engineer for you, without paying them. This is not likely to happen. My suggestion is that if you don't care about streaming that you just use the highest bit rate available, use the LAME encoder, and it won't be horrible. If you care about streaming and want compromises to be made in a reasonable fashion, you will get what you pay for. --scott To hell with MP3s. Nowadays storage memory is cheap and huge. I just rip CDs to ALAC on an iPod via the worst ever audio program (iTunes), and convert to FLAC for my phone which has far bigger SD card capacity than my 64GB iPod. The mono thing can be achieved at the ALC-FLAC (or whatever target format) stage with whichever software (in my case Sound Forge). geoff |
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In article ,
geoff wrote: To hell with MP3s. Yup. The mono thing can be achieved at the ALC-FLAC (or whatever target format) stage with whichever software (in my case Sound Forge). I tend to use 'sox' for audio conversions, inc those to flac. IIRC when given a 'mono content in a stereo wave file' it tends to generate a flac file of much the same size regardless of if you tell it to output a mono ( 1 channel) or stereo ( 2 channels) flac result. Seems able to detect that the two input patterns are the same and make use of that. May not work when converting a 'stereo' capture of an old mono LP with loads of background noise, though, as the noise won't be the same in both channels. Use sox because I often symultaneously use it to do other conversions when not starting with a CD rip. Jim -- Electronics https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html biog http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html |
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Scott Dorsey wrote:
wrote: I need help from the specialists on this group. Please download and examine the following WAV file; http://www.c-compiler.com/myfiles/stgeorges-201219.WAV I want to convert this to an MP3 file. Please tell me what settings I should use for the MP3 file, eg; MP3 Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec (professional), attributes eg 128 kbit/sec, 48.000 Hz, Mono Please try to give specfic advice, because my understanding of audio formats is poor, and I need guidance as to the best MP3 parameters for this conversion. This is basically what a mastering engineer does. The mastering engineer will listen to different codecs and make encoding adjustments (each of the codecs has several hundred settings) in order to get the encoding as transparent as possible. It sounds to me like you are asking someone to do the job of a mastering engineer for you, without paying them. This is not likely to happen. My suggestion is that if you don't care about streaming that you just use the highest bit rate available, use the LAME encoder, and it won't be horrible. If you care about streaming and want compromises to be made in a reasonable fashion, you will get what you pay for. --scott I've roundtripped thru the LAME encoder at -V 1 ( the next to highest quality setting ) and the resulting delta isn't that significant. This may be program material sensitive. -- Les Cargill |
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It very much depends on the reason you are compressing it.
If its mono and does not need to be very good, just passable then the lower bit rates work fine. However you can get some good results using variable bit rate mp3 that sound less gritty than the normal ones do. I'd convert it several times and decide for yourself. Audacity or Goldwave might be handy tools but if you have a good codec pack installed on the pc its usually those which do the work. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! wrote in message ... I need help from the specialists on this group. Please download and examine the following WAV file; http://www.c-compiler.com/myfiles/stgeorges-201219.WAV I want to convert this to an MP3 file. Please tell me what settings I should use for the MP3 file, eg; MP3 Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec (professional), attributes eg 128 kbit/sec, 48.000 Hz, Mono Please try to give specfic advice, because my understanding of audio formats is poor, and I need guidance as to the best MP3 parameters for this conversion. Thank you for your help. |
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I've just looked at the file. Its very short and sounds like somebody trying
to record something with the microphone inside a backpack next to some noisy machinery. What on earth is the point in making it into an mp3, its very short already and unless its some alien communication it seems a trifle useless. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! wrote in message ... I need help from the specialists on this group. Please download and examine the following WAV file; http://www.c-compiler.com/myfiles/stgeorges-201219.WAV I want to convert this to an MP3 file. Please tell me what settings I should use for the MP3 file, eg; MP3 Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec (professional), attributes eg 128 kbit/sec, 48.000 Hz, Mono Please try to give specfic advice, because my understanding of audio formats is poor, and I need guidance as to the best MP3 parameters for this conversion. Thank you for your help. |
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On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 08:56:08 -0000, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\)"
wrote: I've just looked at the file. Its very short and sounds like somebody trying to record something with the microphone inside a backpack next to some noisy machinery. What on earth is the point in making it into an mp3, its very short already and unless its some alien communication it seems a trifle useless. Brian Can you embed a WAV file in an HTML web page? Obviously you can embed an MP3 file in a web page, but I think you can't with a WAV. According to; https://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_audio.asp you cannot use an AUDIO element for a WAV for IE/Edge. This is adquate reason for converting to MP3. |
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On 4/01/2020 10:49 pm, lid wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 08:56:08 -0000, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\)" wrote: I've just looked at the file. Its very short and sounds like somebody trying to record something with the microphone inside a backpack next to some noisy machinery. What on earth is the point in making it into an mp3, its very short already and unless its some alien communication it seems a trifle useless. Brian Can you embed a WAV file in an HTML web page? Obviously you can embed an MP3 file in a web page, but I think you can't with a WAV. According to; https://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_audio.asp you cannot use an AUDIO element for a WAV for IE/Edge. This is adquate reason for converting to MP3. I don't actually *know*, but that seems highly unlikely. Sounds more like a limitation of one particular web design package. geoff |
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2020-01-04 10:49 lid:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 08:56:08 -0000, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\)" wrote: I've just looked at the file. Its very short and sounds like somebody trying to record something with the microphone inside a backpack next to some noisy machinery. What on earth is the point in making it into an mp3, its very short already and unless its some alien communication it seems a trifle useless. Brian Can you embed a WAV file in an HTML web page? Obviously you can embed an MP3 file in a web page, but I think you can't with a WAV. According to; https://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_audio.asp you cannot use an AUDIO element for a WAV for IE/Edge. This is adquate reason for converting to MP3. So, you do not really need a file encoded with the original Fraunhofer MP3 codec, which is not available for free, but just a file, that looks like an MP3 encoded by whatever codec. In such cases a LAME (=Lame Ain´t an MP3 Encoder, because of copyright stuff) encoder with whatever program and the generated file with a .mp3 ending will be good enough for any browser. If you´re using Windows, try https://www.rarewares.org/mp3-lamedrop.php - of course the latest version, not the original one from 2001. No installation required, just unpack the .exe and start it. A *small* window will open, right click this for encoding options. Suggested settings - probably more than required, but the safest bet possible: - (x) Bitrate, "Enter Target Bitrate: 320", check "Restrict to Constant Bitrate (CBR) - Encoding Engine Quality: HIGH, if applicable check "Mono Encoding" - leave *all* other settings UNchecked - Accept Next, right click the window again for "Tagging setup" and UNcheck everything. By default, output directory = input directory. Now, drag and drop your source file onto the LameDropXPd window to start encoding - the target file will be the same file name as the input .WAV but with .MP3 ending hint: all those settings will be written to a .ini file in the same directory and the .exe and used every time for new encoding sessions. Sounds like a lot of parameters? In my experience still the least effort compared to any other MP3/LAME encoder I´ve tried during the last 20 years and much easier than using Audacity or Goldwave just for the LAME encoder. Good luck with your quest! |
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Phil W wrote:
So, you do not really need a file encoded with the original Fraunhofer MP3 codec, which is not available for free, but just a file, that looks like an MP3 encoded by whatever codec. In such cases a LAME (=Lame Ain´t an MP3 Encoder, because of copyright stuff) encoder with whatever program and the generated file with a .mp3 ending will be good enough for any browser. The LAME encoder today is actually likely to sound better than the Fraunhofer encoder on any particular material. There was a time when the Fraunhofer encoder was a clear win with material that had wider dynamic range and limited high frequency content, while the LAME encoder was usually a win for material with limited dynamic range but more high end. But things have changed and although there are still some tracks that do better with the Fraunhofer encoder, most are likely to do better with LAME if properly set. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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I understand that at present the accessibility guidelines say that no sound
should be started by the loading of a web page as the person using a screenreader will not know how to stop the sound to be able to hear their speech. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Phil W" wrote in message ... 2020-01-04 10:49 lid: On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 08:56:08 -0000, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\)" wrote: I've just looked at the file. Its very short and sounds like somebody trying to record something with the microphone inside a backpack next to some noisy machinery. What on earth is the point in making it into an mp3, its very short already and unless its some alien communication it seems a trifle useless. Brian Can you embed a WAV file in an HTML web page? Obviously you can embed an MP3 file in a web page, but I think you can't with a WAV. According to; https://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_audio.asp you cannot use an AUDIO element for a WAV for IE/Edge. This is adquate reason for converting to MP3. So, you do not really need a file encoded with the original Fraunhofer MP3 codec, which is not available for free, but just a file, that looks like an MP3 encoded by whatever codec. In such cases a LAME (=Lame Ain´t an MP3 Encoder, because of copyright stuff) encoder with whatever program and the generated file with a .mp3 ending will be good enough for any browser. If you´re using Windows, try https://www.rarewares.org/mp3-lamedrop.php - of course the latest version, not the original one from 2001. No installation required, just unpack the .exe and start it. A *small* window will open, right click this for encoding options. Suggested settings - probably more than required, but the safest bet possible: - (x) Bitrate, "Enter Target Bitrate: 320", check "Restrict to Constant Bitrate (CBR) - Encoding Engine Quality: HIGH, if applicable check "Mono Encoding" - leave *all* other settings UNchecked - Accept Next, right click the window again for "Tagging setup" and UNcheck everything. By default, output directory = input directory. Now, drag and drop your source file onto the LameDropXPd window to start encoding - the target file will be the same file name as the input .WAV but with .MP3 ending hint: all those settings will be written to a .ini file in the same directory and the .exe and used every time for new encoding sessions. Sounds like a lot of parameters? In my experience still the least effort compared to any other MP3/LAME encoder I´ve tried during the last 20 years and much easier than using Audacity or Goldwave just for the LAME encoder. Good luck with your quest! |
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On 04/01/2020 09:49, lid wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 08:56:08 -0000, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\)" wrote: I've just looked at the file. Its very short and sounds like somebody trying to record something with the microphone inside a backpack next to some noisy machinery. What on earth is the point in making it into an mp3, its very short already and unless its some alien communication it seems a trifle useless. Brian Can you embed a WAV file in an HTML web page? Obviously you can embed an MP3 file in a web page, but I think you can't with a WAV. According to; https://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_audio.asp you cannot use an AUDIO element for a WAV for IE/Edge. This is adquate reason for converting to MP3. Your questions/concerns are overkill for what you want. As others already said there are plenty of free programs with which the conversion to a perfectly adequate mp3 file is a trivial task. If you prefer you can even do it online: https://online-audio-converter.com/ |
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Yes the lame conversion system is almost universally used these days as its
free and nowadays is not any worse than the posh paid for variety. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "MikeS" wrote in message ... On 04/01/2020 09:49, lid wrote: On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 08:56:08 -0000, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\)" wrote: I've just looked at the file. Its very short and sounds like somebody trying to record something with the microphone inside a backpack next to some noisy machinery. What on earth is the point in making it into an mp3, its very short already and unless its some alien communication it seems a trifle useless. Brian Can you embed a WAV file in an HTML web page? Obviously you can embed an MP3 file in a web page, but I think you can't with a WAV. According to; https://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_audio.asp you cannot use an AUDIO element for a WAV for IE/Edge. This is adquate reason for converting to MP3. Your questions/concerns are overkill for what you want. As others already said there are plenty of free programs with which the conversion to a perfectly adequate mp3 file is a trivial task. If you prefer you can even do it online: https://online-audio-converter.com/ |
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Yes but the file itself seems to have no purpose at all.
I know that you can make a wav file into an html email using mime as I used to do this very thing to annoy people. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! wrote in message ... On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 08:56:08 -0000, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\)" wrote: I've just looked at the file. Its very short and sounds like somebody trying to record something with the microphone inside a backpack next to some noisy machinery. What on earth is the point in making it into an mp3, its very short already and unless its some alien communication it seems a trifle useless. Brian Can you embed a WAV file in an HTML web page? Obviously you can embed an MP3 file in a web page, but I think you can't with a WAV. According to; https://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_audio.asp you cannot use an AUDIO element for a WAV for IE/Edge. This is adquate reason for converting to MP3. |
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On 1/4/2020 3:56 AM, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
sounds like somebody trying to record something with the microphone inside a backpack next to some noisy machinery. What on earth is the point in making it into an mp3, its very short already and unless its some alien communication it seems a trifle useless. Maybe to share. While MP3 doesn't offer the highest fidelity, it's the most common audio file format and just about everyone can play it. Some people might balk at downloading or trying to play a WAV file because they don't know what it is. -- For a good time, call http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com |
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Mike Rivers wrote:
Maybe to share. While MP3 doesn't offer the highest fidelity, it's the most common audio file format and just about everyone can play it. Some people might balk at downloading or trying to play a WAV file because they don't know what it is. WAV sure would make things a lot easier! What I'd like to know is why, when I double click MP3 files of songs in Windows Vista to play them in Windows Media Player, it takes 3-5min. to start playing? A WAV, no problem. Double click the file, Media Player opens, starts playing the song within two seconds. |
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On 1/4/2020 10:11 AM, wrote:
What I'd like to know is why, when I double click MP3 files of songs in Windows Vista to play them in Windows Media Player, it takes 3-5min. to start playing? A WAV, no problem. Double click the file, Media Player opens, starts playing the song within two seconds. Maybe it's going out to a few web sites to see if the music is stolen? I use WinAmp (yes, it's old) and it plays just about anything, real snappy. And the best feature for me - and I've looked for this in other media players and haven't found it - is the Bookmarks. I save the URL of streaming radio stations that I like to listen to and can get to them straight from WinAmp without having to open a real web browser. -- For a good time, call http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com |
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On 04/01/2020 16:35, Mike Rivers wrote:
Maybe it's going out to a few web sites to see if the music is stolen? I use WinAmp (yes, it's old) and it plays just about anything, real snappy. And the best feature for me - and I've looked for this in other media players and haven't found it - is the Bookmarks. I save the URL of streaming radio stations that I like to listen to and can get to them straight from WinAmp without having to open a real web browser. It was a real shame when support for Winamp was discontinued after the original team were bought out. Luckily, versions for Windows and Android are still available if you search. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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geoff wrote:
Windows Vista ?!!!! geoff Overall, works fine. Just a little slower overall than when new, but that Media Player behavior when asked to play MP3s has been like that only the last few years. Before that, it would play any music file format within three seconds of clicking on it(except AIFF of course - need QT for that). |
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On 05/01/2020 1:05 am, geoff wrote:
On 5/01/2020 4:11 am, wrote: Mike Rivers wrote: Maybe to share. While MP3 doesn't offer the highest fidelity, it's the most common audio file format and just about everyone can play it. Some people might balk at downloading or trying to play a WAV file because they don't know what it is. WAV sure would make things a lot easier! What I'd like to know is why, when I double click MP3 files of songs in Windows Vista to play them in Windows Media Player, it takes 3-5min. to start playing? Windows Vista ?!!!! geoff Sounds like a slow computer. Back in the old days my computer could take 2-3 minutes to open a average size mp3 in Cool edit Pro... |
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What I'd like to know is why, when I double click MP3 files of songs in Windows Vista to play them in Windows Media Player, it takes 3-5min. to start playing? Actually I have a similar problem. But it is only the FIRST time try to play an MP3 since the machine was booted. I usually just close media player and start again after 20 seconds. The second time and all times after that it starts to play immediately. I assumed it was some DRM thing. I prefer the old version of media player because the WAVES / MIST visualization is actually a usable spectrum analyzer that I sometimes look at while casual listening. It can show problems that are outside my hearing range. Mark |
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mako Mark:
Yes, that first time delay is similar to mine. Subsequent mp3s play faster, still not as fast as other formats. |
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On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 07:56:39 -0500, Mike Rivers
wrote: On 1/4/2020 3:56 AM, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote: sounds like somebody trying to record something with the microphone inside a backpack next to some noisy machinery. What on earth is the point in making it into an mp3, its very short already and unless its some alien communication it seems a trifle useless. Maybe to share. While MP3 doesn't offer the highest fidelity, it's the most common audio file format and just about everyone can play it. Some people might balk at downloading or trying to play a WAV file because they don't know what it is. Absolutely. I think HTML5's AUDIO element doesn't allow WAV for MS Internet Explorer and Edge. I'm not sure about this and will follow up when I have some information. |
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I would have thought there was little danger of an issue. After all, the
file type has been around since the early 1990s to my knowledge and is basically a pcm file. Other compressed formats can be used to hide things in. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! wrote in message ... On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 07:56:39 -0500, Mike Rivers wrote: On 1/4/2020 3:56 AM, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote: sounds like somebody trying to record something with the microphone inside a backpack next to some noisy machinery. What on earth is the point in making it into an mp3, its very short already and unless its some alien communication it seems a trifle useless. Maybe to share. While MP3 doesn't offer the highest fidelity, it's the most common audio file format and just about everyone can play it. Some people might balk at downloading or trying to play a WAV file because they don't know what it is. Absolutely. I think HTML5's AUDIO element doesn't allow WAV for MS Internet Explorer and Edge. I'm not sure about this and will follow up when I have some information. |
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On 6/01/2020 9:25 pm, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
I would have thought there was little danger of an issue. After all, the file type has been around since the early 1990s to my knowledge and is basically a pcm file. Other compressed formats can be used to hide things in. Brian MP3 file a PCM file ? Um, no. geoff |
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On 06/01/2020 08:25, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
I would have thought there was little danger of an issue. After all, the file type has been around since the early 1990s to my knowledge and is basically a pcm file. Other compressed formats can be used to hide things in. Brian mp3 files contain metadata as well as audio, the metadata tags can be quite large and include items which can be used to conceal malware. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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wrote: Maybe to share. While MP3 doesn't offer the highest fidelity, it's the most common audio file format and just about everyone can play it. Given that many decent DAPs, etc, support better codecs, that's a pretty sad fact if true. Bit like finding that most people still use shellac 78s! Jim -- Electronics https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html biog http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html |
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On 05/01/2020 10:27, Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , Mike Rivers wrote: Maybe to share. While MP3 doesn't offer the highest fidelity, it's the most common audio file format and just about everyone can play it. Given that many decent DAPs, etc, support better codecs, that's a pretty sad fact if true. Bit like finding that most people still use shellac 78s! Jim High bit rate mp3 files are almost indistinguishable from PCM audio of the same bit depth and sample rate, even by professionals on decent playback systems. I use them happily for playback when not listening critically. For critical work, then 24 bit uncompressed or losslessly compressed files are what is needed, and as I tend to be editing as well, that rules out native use of FLAC and similar codecs -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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