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Smaart/Terrasode(Sencore)
Ciao e tutti
Smaart: Do we like it? Is as good at it thinks it is? Do we know what V6.0 (March) will bring? The Terrasonde 3C (now Sencore something) seems like a good alternative, but more expensive. Anyone used that? Interested in comparisons, reccomendations, horror stories, sticky-buns, naked ladies, whatever! Pip pip -- Chris Notton Replace "nospam" with my surname to reply by email Sostituisca il "nospam" con il mio cognome per rispondere }////(* |
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Chris Notton wrote: Smaart: Do we like it? Is as good at it thinks it is? Do we know what V6.0 (March) will bring? I like it. It is an extremely powerful tool for equalizing sound systems. The delay locater function enables accurate establishment of delay settings for underbalcony speakers or delay rings. It also provides a way to identify reflections. I have no idea what version 6.0 will bring. The Terrasonde 3C (now Sencore something) seems like a good alternative, but more expensive. Anyone used that? Interested in comparisons, reccomendations, horror stories, sticky-buns, naked ladies, whatever! Two entirely different products. The Terrasonde box is an all in one analyzer that provides a great deal more than basic spectrum analysis functions. I have the older Terrasonde box, the ATB+, and find it in indispensible for all routine testing and adjustment of systems. Everything from noise level surveys, to speaker polarity, to impedance sweeps. I use the RTA/FFT functions only for basic eq of non-critical systems, like 70V distributed lobby, meeting, or conference room applications. Smaart is always my preferred tool for reinforcement system equalization. |
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Chris Notton wrote: Smaart: Do we like it? Is as good at it thinks it is? Do we know what V6.0 (March) will bring? The Terrasonde 3C (now Sencore something) seems like a good alternative, but more expensive. Anyone used that? SMAART is a tool for live sound and acoustic optimizing. I haven't kept up with the Terrasonde since Senecore took it over, but I always considered their products to be more studio-maintenance and test oriented. What do you want to do? That might be the deciding factor right there. |
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Chris Notton wrote: I suppose the simplest way if describing the planned use would be: documentation of various rooms/halls/environments before & after acoustic treatment has taken place. SMAART is good at helping you to figure out what you need to do to fix a room, so if you used it before treatment and then after, you could see what you've done. But "treatment" often involves moving walls or speakers, not just putting up some foam or traps and throwing in a graphic equalizer. What kind of rooms and what kind of treatment? Will you be doing the work, or is this for research? What you want to measure for documentation will determine the best tool to use. If it's as basic as 1/3 octave response to pink noise at several places, and RT60, I have a Phonic PAA3 here for evaluation that will do the job. It will fit in your pocket and costs about $400. If you want to check out a room and figure out what you'll need to do in order to optimize it, SMAART is your tool. But it will also do simple stuff. Anyonoe done the SIA training? I took a one day class/demo several years back that Sam Berkow did at a local studio. It was quite interesting but I've forgotten most of what I learned because I never used the system. They do teach classes periodically and if there's one near you, it would probably be worth taking it to see what it does, and to have someone there who can answer your "can I do this?" questions. |
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I suppose the simplest way if describing the planned use would be: documentation of various rooms/halls/environments before & after acoustic treatment has taken place. If you want to do that, you want to be able to take impulse responses and do waterfall plots from them. You can do that with Smaart. I don't know about the Terrasonde. You can also do that with some of the higher end signal analyzers like the Ono Sokkis. Some of these turn up used at reasonable prices although they tend to be heavy to lug around. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Ciao e tutti Smaart: Do we like it? Is as good at it thinks it is? Do we know what V6.0 (March) will bring? The Terrasonde 3C (now Sencore something) seems like a good alternative, but more expensive. Anyone used that? Interested in comparisons, reccomendations, horror stories, sticky-buns, naked ladies, whatever! Pip pip -- Chris Notton Replace "nospam" with my surname to reply by email Sostituisca il "nospam" con il mio cognome per rispondere }////(* I haven't used the Terrasonde so I can't comment on it. I have Smaart V5. Took one of the classes which was hands on. Everyone either brought a laptop or had one supplied to perform measurements throughout the class. Jamie Anderson taught that particular class and was very good at presenting the concepts, especially the transfer function. I like how one can interact with many processor boxes directly on the transfer function screen. It makes speaker alignment (delays, crossover, speaker EQ) very easy for multispeaker systems. In conjunction with Acoustic Tools one can figure out what is going on with a room, but as others stated, low frequency room issues aren't solved with a few wall foams and definitely not EQ. SIASoft's SmaartLive and AcousticTools are good products. Just recently went to an all day class on SIM3 from Meyer Sound which is essentially a dedictated box with lots of switchable gozintas and gozoutas in addition to the a very complete set of acoustic measurement tools. SIM3 and Smaart are the only products I know that have source indepented transfer function measurements. If anyone knows others, please speak up. Here is a link you might find useful though it leaves out Acoustisoft ETF5 and Phonic: http://www.livesoundint.com/archives...eal2/real2.php also have a look at Ethan Winer's excellent site: http://www.realtraps.com bobs Bob Smith BS Studios we organize chaos http://www.bsstudios.com |
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Linear Mode
