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[ This discussion is getting to be more about particular
bits of technology configuration rather than high-end audio. People who wish to continue to discuss technology are invited to move this thread to rec.audio.tech. -- dsr ] "Gary Eickmeier" wrote in message ... Yes, the H2n has one external mike input, a stereo mini jack. That is an EXCELLENT idea Jason. I have some Audio Technika mikes that I could use for the front channels in XY or MS mode. I guess I could even use them in my favorite 3 spaced omni configuration, mixed down to 2 channels. Then the little Zoom's rear mikes could be balanced with the front in editing with some cut and try on levels. I must read more in my manual to see which side the external mikes would sub for, and therefore how to proceed. I have investigated the matter and found that yes, it will still record in 4 channel surround mode with an external source plugged in. My fear was that if you plugged in an external mike, it would force it into 2 channel mode, but no, it still records all four. The external subs for the XY input, which is strange, because that is the rear channels when in surround mode. Pity, but all you do is turn the recorder around so that the XY side is pointing to the front and the MS toward the back. This brings up a curious caution: If you pay attention to the channelization of the external input, you notice that in surround sound mode, if you were to orient your external microphone normally, its channels would be fighting the rear (MS) channels in directionality. This is because the MS is pointing backwards, which reverses the channels compared to the front mikes. What you want is for the Rs and Ls on both sides to match each other so that sounds coming from the direct sides, Right and Left, will be picked up by the same sides of the microphones, R and L. Bottom line, all you have to do is reverse the channelization of the front (external) mikes in order to make it correct for surround sound. You must then in editing reverse both front and rear channelization to make everything correct again. Simple. Gary Eickmeier |
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On Sat, 3 Mar 2012 09:17:40 -0800, Gary Eickmeier wrote
(in article ): I have investigated the matter and found that yes, it will still record in 4 channel surround mode with an external source plugged in. OK. How do you plug 4 external microphones into one 2-channel stereo mini-jack? |
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"Audio Empire" wrote in message
... On Sat, 3 Mar 2012 09:17:40 -0800, Gary Eickmeier wrote (in article ): I have investigated the matter and found that yes, it will still record in 4 channel surround mode with an external source plugged in. OK. How do you plug 4 external microphones into one 2-channel stereo mini-jack? If I may answer and complete this thread - The Zoom H2n has two internal stereo microphones, one pointing forward and one back, for a 4 channel recorder all in one. When you use it in its native (internal mikes) mode, the MS set points forward and records the front channels. The XY mikes point aft and record the surround sound. When in this mode the XY channelization is reversed by design, for the reasons I pointed out in my previous post. There is one stereo mini jack for external microphone. When you plug a stereo mike in, it subs for the XY channels rather than the MS channels, but the MS channels are still active and recording sound, so you can still record surround sound with an external mike plugged in. The trick as explained so carefully is that the channelization is messed up, so you need a couple of workarounds. You will want the external mikes to record the more important sound, the frontal soundstage, so you simply turn the recorder around and let the MS internals record the rear surround sound. A curious channelization problem ensues, as previously explained. I believe that all of this belongs in this group because it opens a door to the capability of recording surround sound easily with the Zoom and then encoding that into a playable CD with the software I told you about. It belongs in Rec Audio High End because without recordings there is no High End Audio. Surround sound recordings are one step closer to the real thing. It is very exciting to me, and I just wanted to share it. Gary Eickmeier |
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On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 06:32:29 -0800, Jason wrote
(in article ): In article , says... On Sat, 3 Mar 2012 09:17:40 -0800, Gary Eickmeier wrote (in article ): I have investigated the matter and found that yes, it will still record in 4 channel surround mode with an external source plugged in. OK. How do you plug 4 external microphones into one 2-channel stereo mini-jack? The external pair substitutes for the built-in XY mics; the M-S tracks use the interal ones. OK, then, that's something that the H2N will do that the H2 won't. With the H2, it's either the 4 internal mikes or two external ones (or 2-channel line input from a mixer). You can't (AFAIR) split 'em. (2 external, 2 internal). |
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