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What Corey Greenburg Learned From His Days At Stereophile? ;-)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2005Apr19.html
Firms Paid TV's Tech Gurus To Promote Their Products By Howard Kurtz Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, April 20, 2005; Page C01 Corey Greenberg, tech editor for NBC's "Today" show, appeared last July to praise Apple's iPod as "a great portable musical player . . . the coolest-looking one" and suggested a compatible device to "share your music with other people." "This is the way to go," he declared. "Let's cut the Apple commercial here right now, okay?" co-host Matt Lauer interjected. Lauer was onto something. Greenberg, an NBC contributor, confirmed yesterday that he has received payments from Apple as well as Sony, Hewlett-Packard, Seiko Epson, Creative Technology and Energizer Holdings, charging $15,000 apiece to talk up their products on news shows. The contracts were first disclosed by the Wall Street Journal. |
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I seem to recall that Cory was dropped by Stereophile for similar
misconduct. Does anyone remember the details? "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2005Apr19.html Firms Paid TV's Tech Gurus To Promote Their Products By Howard Kurtz Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, April 20, 2005; Page C01 Corey Greenberg, tech editor for NBC's "Today" show, appeared last July to praise Apple's iPod as "a great portable musical player . . . the coolest-looking one" and suggested a compatible device to "share your music with other people." "This is the way to go," he declared. "Let's cut the Apple commercial here right now, okay?" co-host Matt Lauer interjected. Lauer was onto something. Greenberg, an NBC contributor, confirmed yesterday that he has received payments from Apple as well as Sony, Hewlett-Packard, Seiko Epson, Creative Technology and Energizer Holdings, charging $15,000 apiece to talk up their products on news shows. The contracts were first disclosed by the Wall Street Journal. |
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Robert Morein wrote:
I seem to recall that Cory was dropped by Stereophile for similar misconduct. He wasn't dropped that hard bt SP - they still have articles on their site that mention him favorably. Does anyone remember the details? I thought that someone with deeper pockets hired him. |
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Arny Krueger wrote: Robert Morein wrote: I seem to recall that Cory was dropped by Stereophile for similar misconduct. He wasn't dropped that hard bt SP - they still have articles on their site that mention him favorably. Corey Greenberg (not "burg") left Stereophile in 1994. He wanted/needed more money/responsibility; I wasn't in the position to give him either. His final review was of the Snell Type C/V loudspeaker in November 1994. I thought that someone with deeper pockets hired him. He left Stereophile to join Home Theater magazine, then Sound & Vision, then Audio where he was the final editor in chief before that magazine's demise. Regarding the question in your thread title, Mr. Krueger, the answer is "no." I have fired writers for behaving in this manner. You are welcome, of course, to raise this question at next Friday's debate in New York, if you think it relevant. John Atkinson Editor, Stereophile |
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John Atkinson wrote:
Arny Krueger wrote: Robert Morein wrote: I seem to recall that Cory was dropped by Stereophile for similar misconduct. He wasn't dropped that hard by SP - they still have articles on their site that mention him favorably. Corey Greenberg (not "burg") left Stereophile in 1994. He wanted/needed more money/responsibility; I wasn't in the position to give him either. His final review was of the Snell Type C/V loudspeaker in November 1994. I thought that someone with deeper pockets hired him. Seems like John is agreeing with this. He left Stereophile to join Home Theater magazine, then Sound & Vision, then Audio where he was the final editor in chief before that magazine's demise. There's probably some irony in that. The ragazine didn't die for lack of subjectivism on the part of the editor. Regarding the question in your thread title, Mr. Krueger, the answer is "no." I have fired writers for behaving in this manner. You are welcome, of course, to raise this question at next Friday's debate in New York, if you think it relevant. Just pulling your chain, John. ;-) My discussion will be as technical as possible, given the audience. |
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John Atkinson said: Regarding the question in your thread title, Mr. Krueger, the answer is "no." I have fired writers for behaving in this manner. You are welcome, of course, to raise this question at next Friday's debate in New York, if you think it relevant. Attempt to scare Arnii ****less noted. Rubbing Krooger's snout in his impotency noted. Illumination of Krooger's inability to discern relevance noted. ;-) |
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On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:20:55 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote: Just pulling your chain, John. ;-) Yes, implied public slander is sooooo much fun, right Arnold? |
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In , dave weil wrote :
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:20:55 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: Just pulling your chain, John. ;-) Yes, implied public slander is sooooo much fun, right Arnold? Slander concerns persons not magazine. Have you noted the interrogation point at the end of the sentence ? I hope you are a better waiter than prosecutor... ;-) Slander : noun: words falsely spoken that damage the reputation of another noun: an abusive attack on a person's character or good name verb: charge falsely or with malicious intent; attack the good name and reputation of someone |
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Lionel wrote:
In , dave weil wrote : On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:20:55 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: Just pulling your chain, John. ;-) Yes, implied public slander is sooooo much fun, right Arnold? Slander concerns persons not magazine. Yup Weil stumbles over the difference between slander and libel. Have you noted the interrogation point at the end of the sentence ? No doubt, but if he admitted it he would have nothing to whine about. I hope you are a better waiter than prosecutor... ;-) Don't bet on it. Remember, he's still a wage slave. |
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On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:52:29 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote: Lionel wrote: In , dave weil wrote : On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:20:55 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: Just pulling your chain, John. ;-) Yes, implied public slander is sooooo much fun, right Arnold? Slander concerns persons not magazine. Yup Weil stumbles over the difference between slander and libel. This is correct. Lionel busted me for the wrong thing. I guess he's having an off-day, even though he was johnny-on-the-spot like a good doggy. Have you noted the interrogation point at the end of the sentence ? No doubt, but if he admitted it he would have nothing to whine about. Oh, I saw it. But it was about as meaningful as the smarmy-winky at the end. Both of you missed the word "implied" anyway. Admitting the presence of that word would be admitting that you were whining about nothing. I hope you are a better waiter than prosecutor... ;-) Don't bet on it. Remember, he's still a wage slave. Well, at least I'm not your toady and conduit like Lionel. Now THAT'S a job that nobody should have to suffer. |
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Arny Krueger wrote: Lionel wrote: In , dave weil wrote : On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:20:55 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: Just pulling your chain, John. ;-) Yes, implied public slander is sooooo much fun, right Arnold? Slander concerns persons not magazine. Yup Weil stumbles over the difference between slander and libel. Have you noted the interrogation point at the end of the sentence ? No doubt, but if he admitted it he would have nothing to whine about. I hope you are a better waiter than prosecutor... ;-) Don't bet on it. Remember, he's still a wage slave. As opposed to a spouse spounge? Scott Wheeler |
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Arny Krueger a écrit :
Don't bet on it. Remember, he's still a wage slave. He is too burlesque, I've a lot of fun with him. Since you don't answer anymore to his sterile provocations, Dave is suffering kind of verbal incontinency crisis... |
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dave weil a écrit :
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:52:29 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: Lionel wrote: In , dave weil wrote : On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:20:55 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: Just pulling your chain, John. ;-) Yes, implied public slander is sooooo much fun, right Arnold? Slander concerns persons not magazine. Yup Weil stumbles over the difference between slander and libel. This is correct. Lionel busted me. Nearly everyday now... Seems that you like it, eh pervert ? I guess he's having an off-day. You guess wrong, lackey. Have you finished the homework I gave you ? |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... Lionel wrote: In , dave weil wrote : On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:20:55 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: Just pulling your chain, John. ;-) Yes, implied public slander is sooooo much fun, right Arnold? Slander concerns persons not magazine. Yup Weil stumbles over the difference between slander and libel. Have you noted the interrogation point at the end of the sentence ? No doubt, but if he admitted it he would have nothing to whine about. I hope you are a better waiter than prosecutor... ;-) Don't bet on it. Remember, he's still a wage slave. Better than being a welfare slug like you. Tell us why you haven't worked in years. When did you leave Chrysler? What were the circumstances? Ah!, so in your 'better' years, you were a wage slave! ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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"dave weil" wrote in message ... On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:52:29 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: Well, at least I'm not your toady and conduit like Lionel. Now THAT'S a job that nobody should have to suffer. What is worse, that, or inspecting sewers? ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Clyde Slick said: Well, at least I'm not your toady and conduit like Lionel. Now THAT'S a job that nobody should have to suffer. What is worse, that, or inspecting sewers? Sluttie may work in a sewer, but Arnii goes there for dinner. |
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Clyde Slick said: Better than being a welfare slug like you. Tell us why you haven't worked in years. When did you leave Chrysler? What were the circumstances? Ah!, so in your 'better' years, you were a wage slave! I'd like to know how Arnii learned he had been sacked. Did they serve him at home, or just deactivate his key card? Did they send security to his desk or a court-appointed shrink to his home? |
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"John Atkinson" wrote in message oups.com... Arny Krueger wrote: Robert Morein wrote: I seem to recall that Cory was dropped by Stereophile for similar misconduct. He wasn't dropped that hard bt SP - they still have articles on their site that mention him favorably. Corey Greenberg (not "burg") left Stereophile in 1994. He wanted/needed more money/responsibility; I wasn't in the position to give him either. His final review was of the Snell Type C/V loudspeaker in November 1994. I thought that someone with deeper pockets hired him. He left Stereophile to join Home Theater magazine, then Sound & Vision, then Audio where he was the final editor in chief before that magazine's demise. Regarding the question in your thread title, Mr. Krueger, the answer is "no." I have fired writers for behaving in this manner. Really John? Who? Cheers, Margaret |
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Arny Krueger wrote:
Lauer was onto something. Greenberg, an NBC contributor, confirmed yesterday that he has received payments from Apple as well as Sony, Hewlett-Packard, Seiko Epson, Creative Technology and Energizer Holdings, charging $15,000 apiece to talk up their products on news shows. The contracts were first disclosed by the Wall Street Journal. I find this to be very amusing information. Howard Ferstler |
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Arny Krueger wrote:
Just pulling your chain, John. ;-) My discussion will be as technical as possible, given the audience. Arny, regarding that upcoming debate, I am depending on you to hand this phony his head. Pull his chain a few times for me, too, while you are at it. Howard Ferstler |
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John Atkinson wrote:
Regarding the question in your thread title, Mr. Krueger, the answer is "no." I have fired writers for behaving in this manner. John prefers that his magazine's contributors simply be deluded, rather than be crafty opportunists like Mr. Greenberg. Ironically, given that Mr. Atkinson must certainly be aware of the fact that many of his reviewers spout claptrap during reviews and thereby mislead readers, and given that his impressionable and often deluded readers very often like to read claptrap and be misled and would cancel their subscriptions if the magazine took a more rational approach to evaluating wires, amps, and CD players, just how is he more ethical than Mr. Greenberg? Perhaps he keeps those phonies on the payroll, because without them the magazine would lose subscribers. Of course, I could be wrong about all of this. Maybe he is as deluded as those contributors. Hey, John, just kidding. Have a nice day. Howard Ferstler |
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Brother Horace tries to stick his hand in the alligator's maw. Arny, regarding that upcoming debate, I am depending on you to hand this phony his head. Pull his chain a few times for me, too, while you are at it. I hope Arnii listens to you, Clerkie. You're one of the only friends he has left. Arnii, if your antenna are extended, try to ignore the carrier beam. Instead, focus on the coded message. Time is getting perilously short for you. Needless to say, Harold might be cheering for you, but when the shooting starts, he'll be nowhere to be found. |
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Why don't you attend?
ScottW |
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"John Atkinson" wrote
...........You are welcome, of course, to raise this question at next Friday's debate in New York, Will this debate be broadcast live or recorded for later distribution? |
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"George M. Middius" wrote in message ... Clyde Slick said: Well, at least I'm not your toady and conduit like Lionel. Now THAT'S a job that nobody should have to suffer. What is worse, that, or inspecting sewers? Sluttie may work in a sewer, but Arnii goes there for dinner. As his own website says, he is chief cook and bottle washer. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... John Atkinson wrote: [snip] Regarding the question in your thread title, Mr. Krueger, the answer is "no." I have fired writers for behaving in this manner. You are welcome, of course, to raise this question at next Friday's debate in New York, if you think it relevant. Just pulling your chain, John. ;-) Oh, great. We get to see them take it out on stage. |
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"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... Arny Krueger wrote: Lauer was onto something. Greenberg, an NBC contributor, confirmed yesterday that he has received payments from Apple as well as Sony, Hewlett-Packard, Seiko Epson, Creative Technology and Energizer Holdings, charging $15,000 apiece to talk up their products on news shows. The contracts were first disclosed by the Wall Street Journal. I find this to be very amusing information. Howard Ferstler Jealous at how much he's getting? |
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Howard Ferstler wrote:
Arny Krueger wrote: Just pulling your chain, John. ;-) My discussion will be as technical as possible, given the audience. Arny, regarding that upcoming debate, I am depending on you to hand this phony his head. Pull his chain a few times for me, too, while you are at it. No doubt Mr. Atkinson will attempt to play cool, attempting to wind me up as he is able to. I'm counting on him to be his usual sweet self, which is to say pompus to the point of being overbearning. |
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Margaret von B. wrote:
"John Atkinson" wrote in message oups.com... Arny Krueger wrote: Robert Morein wrote: I seem to recall that Cory was dropped by Stereophile for similar misconduct. He wasn't dropped that hard bt SP - they still have articles on their site that mention him favorably. Corey Greenberg (not "burg") left Stereophile in 1994. He wanted/needed more money/responsibility; I wasn't in the position to give him either. His final review was of the Snell Type C/V loudspeaker in November 1994. I thought that someone with deeper pockets hired him. He left Stereophile to join Home Theater magazine, then Sound & Vision, then Audio where he was the final editor in chief before that magazine's demise. Regarding the question in your thread title, Mr. Krueger, the answer is "no." I have fired writers for behaving in this manner. Really John? Who? Great question - don't hold your breath for the answer! |
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Robert Morein wrote:
"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... Arny Krueger wrote: Lauer was onto something. Greenberg, an NBC contributor, confirmed yesterday that he has received payments from Apple as well as Sony, Hewlett-Packard, Seiko Epson, Creative Technology and Energizer Holdings, charging $15,000 apiece to talk up their products on news shows. The contracts were first disclosed by the Wall Street Journal. I find this to be very amusing information. Howard Ferstler Jealous at how much he's getting? IMO, howard is probabably just pleased to see a fraud get his comeuppance. |
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A sliver of self-awareness from the Krooborg? IMO, howard is probabably just pleased to see a fraud get his comeuppance. Now you've got it, Arnii. Except in your case, "fraud" isn't quite the right word. Perhaps "deranged egomaniac who rants uncontrollably on Usenet" would be closer. Have you decided which excuse you're going to use for not showing up? |
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Tom wrote: "John Atkinson" wrote You are welcome, of course, to raise this question at next Friday's debate in New York, Will this debate be broadcast live or recorded for later distribution? Our original plan was to webcast it live, but the logistics are problematic. The debate will be recorded and the unedited recording streamed from www.stereophile.com. John Atkinson Editor, Stereophile |
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Jesus Christ, would somebody please remind me never to post anything on
this group, unless of course I happen to be in an extremely masochistic mood? |
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Clyde Slick a écrit :
"dave weil" wrote in message ... On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:52:29 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: Well, at least I'm not your toady and conduit like Lionel. Now THAT'S a job that nobody should have to suffer. What is worse, that, or inspecting sewers? Nothing is worse than to be you, little old pederast ! :-D |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... IMO, howard is probabably just pleased to see a fraud get his comeuppance. If irony could plagiarize itself. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Jesus Christ, would somebody please remind me never to post anything on this group, unless of course I happen to be in an extremely masochistic mood? What's the problem, Bob? |
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On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:01:43 -0400, Howard Ferstler
wrote: Arny Krueger wrote: Just pulling your chain, John. ;-) My discussion will be as technical as possible, given the audience. Arny, regarding that upcoming debate, I am depending on you to hand this phony his head. Pull his chain a few times for me, too, while you are at it. Boy, envy is a nasty thing indeed... |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote
No doubt Mr. Atkinson will attempt to play cool, attempting to wind me up as he is able to. I''ll try to be my usual sweet self, but you know how I can be pompus to the point of being overbearning. Are you going to be an asshole when you meet face to face? I know John is a nice guy. I heard you were a regular guy in person as well - although this is difficult to imagine. You know if you want to have any credibility next Friday, regular and nice will go a lot further than pompous and overbearing as you mention above. |
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"John Atkinson" wrote...
Tom wrote: "John Atkinson" wrote You are welcome, of course, to raise this question at next Friday's debate in New York, Will this debate be broadcast live or recorded for later distribution? Our original plan was to webcast it live, but the logistics are problematic. The debate will be recorded and the unedited recording streamed from www.stereophile.com. Can you record every minute of your togetherness? We'd like to see the "meet and greet", the friendly chats, the dinners, the nightcaps, etc. Could you please hire a full time documentary photographer? |
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