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7.2 A/V _Preamp_
On 5/08/2017 7:59 PM, Trevor wrote:
On 5/08/2017 11:54 AM, Randy Yates wrote: Wow, active group these days.... Yep not too active, but probably a few like me who saw your post and have no idea of any devices that fit your requirements. I can only say I'd agree with your comment, "a bit of a rare bird". Probably not a big enough market. Most people just buy a sound bar these days, or a full HT receiver. As I found. Needed a sound-bar because these latest ultra-thin TV seem to have sound so tinny that it is pretty much unlistenable. And firing up the stereo hook-up is too much hassle for 'everyday' viewing. I save the stereo for 'special ' events. But 7.2 , why ? Why not 11-6 or 15.9 ? Or maybe just 8 for real 3D. geoff |
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7.2 A/V _Preamp_
geoff writes:
On 5/08/2017 7:59 PM, Trevor wrote: On 5/08/2017 11:54 AM, Randy Yates wrote: Wow, active group these days.... Yep not too active, but probably a few like me who saw your post and have no idea of any devices that fit your requirements. I can only say I'd agree with your comment, "a bit of a rare bird". Probably not a big enough market. Most people just buy a sound bar these days, or a full HT receiver. As I found. Needed a sound-bar because these latest ultra-thin TV seem to have sound so tinny that it is pretty much unlistenable. And firing up the stereo hook-up is too much hassle for 'everyday' viewing. I save the stereo for 'special ' events. But 7.2 , why ? Why not 11-6 or 15.9 ? Or maybe just 8 for real 3D. Because that's the current standard? Except for this Dolby Atmos thingie now. Actually I've been existing just fine for 50 years on 2.0, including my home theater room. Plain old stereo works pretty good when the audio system is powerful, clean, and wide-range (the Klipschorns go reasonably well down to 30 Hz). At this point I've given up on a prebuilt unit and am leaning towards a PC-based system. I am thinking of using something like this for the audio: https://us.focusrite.com/usb-audio-i...s/scarlett-2i2 I'll start with one box (two outputs) and add more if needed. The question of the type of PC is currently a big issue. I've considered units like this fanless PC https://www.logicsupply.com/ml450g-52/ or just a plain laptop so that I can have the system in the theater and not have to deal with some sort of USB and HDMI extender, but I'm also attracted to the idea of a full-power desktop to provide plenty of storage and a PCI-e bus for a powerful 4K graphics card like the Nvidia X. -- Randy Yates, DSP/Embedded Firmware Developer Digital Signal Labs http://www.digitalsignallabs.com |
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7.2 A/V _Preamp_
PS: One big issue in basing it on a PC is the ability to play new BluRay
DVDs and the copy protection is a real bear to get around. A potential way around that is to buy an HDMI input card, then transcode to the system HDMI output. But then the HDCP copy protection revision of the input card becomes an issue. Fighting this battle seems to be never-ending. --RY Randy Yates writes: geoff writes: On 5/08/2017 7:59 PM, Trevor wrote: On 5/08/2017 11:54 AM, Randy Yates wrote: Wow, active group these days.... Yep not too active, but probably a few like me who saw your post and have no idea of any devices that fit your requirements. I can only say I'd agree with your comment, "a bit of a rare bird". Probably not a big enough market. Most people just buy a sound bar these days, or a full HT receiver. As I found. Needed a sound-bar because these latest ultra-thin TV seem to have sound so tinny that it is pretty much unlistenable. And firing up the stereo hook-up is too much hassle for 'everyday' viewing. I save the stereo for 'special ' events. But 7.2 , why ? Why not 11-6 or 15.9 ? Or maybe just 8 for real 3D. Because that's the current standard? Except for this Dolby Atmos thingie now. Actually I've been existing just fine for 50 years on 2.0, including my home theater room. Plain old stereo works pretty good when the audio system is powerful, clean, and wide-range (the Klipschorns go reasonably well down to 30 Hz). At this point I've given up on a prebuilt unit and am leaning towards a PC-based system. I am thinking of using something like this for the audio: https://us.focusrite.com/usb-audio-i...s/scarlett-2i2 I'll start with one box (two outputs) and add more if needed. The question of the type of PC is currently a big issue. I've considered units like this fanless PC https://www.logicsupply.com/ml450g-52/ or just a plain laptop so that I can have the system in the theater and not have to deal with some sort of USB and HDMI extender, but I'm also attracted to the idea of a full-power desktop to provide plenty of storage and a PCI-e bus for a powerful 4K graphics card like the Nvidia X. -- Randy Yates, DSP/Embedded Firmware Developer Digital Signal Labs http://www.digitalsignallabs.com |
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7.2 A/V _Preamp_
On 28/10/2017 10:30 PM, Randy Yates wrote:
PS: One big issue in basing it on a PC is the ability to play new BluRay DVDs and the copy protection is a real bear to get around. A potential way around that is to buy an HDMI input card, then transcode to the system HDMI output. But then the HDCP copy protection revision of the input card becomes an issue. Can you just rip the Bluray to hard drive and remove the copy protection using something like DVDFab, like you can for DVD? Trevor. |
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7.2 A/V _Preamp_
Trevor writes:
On 28/10/2017 10:30 PM, Randy Yates wrote: PS: One big issue in basing it on a PC is the ability to play new BluRay DVDs and the copy protection is a real bear to get around. A potential way around that is to buy an HDMI input card, then transcode to the system HDMI output. But then the HDCP copy protection revision of the input card becomes an issue. Can you just rip the Bluray to hard drive and remove the copy protection using something like DVDFab, like you can for DVD? Hi Trevor, First note that I'll be using linux. I don't think DVDFab will run under linux. Also note that I don't need to do anything special for DVDs - opensource apps like vlc play them just fine without any messing with. Apparently the Blu-ray DRM is more advanced and changes, making it more difficult to "crack." I read some about it here but admit it still seems quite mysterious: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Blu-ray -- Randy Yates, DSP/Embedded Firmware Developer Digital Signal Labs http://www.digitalsignallabs.com |
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7.2 A/V _Preamp_
Hi Randy,
I have no personal experience with BluRay since I don't have a BluRay drive in my computer. I think that DVDFab can remove the protection from BluRay disks though. Whether there is something similar for Linux I have no idea, but possibly worth a look. Trevor. On 2/11/2017 12:57 PM, Randy Yates wrote: Trevor writes: On 28/10/2017 10:30 PM, Randy Yates wrote: PS: One big issue in basing it on a PC is the ability to play new BluRay DVDs and the copy protection is a real bear to get around. A potential way around that is to buy an HDMI input card, then transcode to the system HDMI output. But then the HDCP copy protection revision of the input card becomes an issue. Can you just rip the Bluray to hard drive and remove the copy protection using something like DVDFab, like you can for DVD? Hi Trevor, First note that I'll be using linux. I don't think DVDFab will run under linux. Also note that I don't need to do anything special for DVDs - opensource apps like vlc play them just fine without any messing with. Apparently the Blu-ray DRM is more advanced and changes, making it more difficult to "crack." I read some about it here but admit it still seems quite mysterious: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Blu-ray |
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7.2 A/V _Preamp_
On 7/11/2017 7:00 PM, Trevor wrote:
Hi Randy, I have no personal experience with BluRay since I don't have a BluRay drive in my computer. I think that DVDFab can remove the protection from BluRay disks though. Whether there is something similar for Linux I have no idea, but possibly worth a look. Surely even ardent Linux adherents keep a Win PC in the cupboard, just for the occasional convenience ? Or do they all keep heads in sand ? geoff |
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7.2 A/V _Preamp_
Trevor writes:
Hi Randy, I have no personal experience with BluRay since I don't have a BluRay drive in my computer. I think that DVDFab can remove the protection from BluRay disks though. Whether there is something similar for Linux I have no idea, but possibly worth a look. I can certainly fire up my win10 vm and use it there, it's just inconvenient. Thanks much for the suggestion, Trevor. --Randy Trevor. On 2/11/2017 12:57 PM, Randy Yates wrote: Trevor writes: On 28/10/2017 10:30 PM, Randy Yates wrote: PS: One big issue in basing it on a PC is the ability to play new BluRay DVDs and the copy protection is a real bear to get around. A potential way around that is to buy an HDMI input card, then transcode to the system HDMI output. But then the HDCP copy protection revision of the input card becomes an issue. Can you just rip the Bluray to hard drive and remove the copy protection using something like DVDFab, like you can for DVD? Hi Trevor, First note that I'll be using linux. I don't think DVDFab will run under linux. Also note that I don't need to do anything special for DVDs - opensource apps like vlc play them just fine without any messing with. Apparently the Blu-ray DRM is more advanced and changes, making it more difficult to "crack." I read some about it here but admit it still seems quite mysterious: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Blu-ray -- Randy Yates, DSP/Embedded Firmware Developer Digital Signal Labs http://www.digitalsignallabs.com |
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7.2 A/V _Preamp_
On 29/10/2017 12:23 AM, Randy Yates wrote:
geoff writes: On 5/08/2017 7:59 PM, Trevor wrote: On 5/08/2017 11:54 AM, Randy Yates wrote: Wow, active group these days.... Yep not too active, but probably a few like me who saw your post and have no idea of any devices that fit your requirements. I can only say I'd agree with your comment, "a bit of a rare bird". Probably not a big enough market. Most people just buy a sound bar these days, or a full HT receiver. As I found. Needed a sound-bar because these latest ultra-thin TV seem to have sound so tinny that it is pretty much unlistenable. And firing up the stereo hook-up is too much hassle for 'everyday' viewing. I save the stereo for 'special ' events. But 7.2 , why ? Why not 11-6 or 15.9 ? Or maybe just 8 for real 3D. Because that's the current standard? Except for this Dolby Atmos thingie now. Seems to be a new 'standard' every year or so. geoff |
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