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Ditching Audiofire8 - next?
I have worked with Echo tech support through three mother boards,
and four firewire cards and endless OS tweaks, and nothing will stop the periodic underruns I'm getting. My latest motherboard has the older PCI slots, so my choices are greater now. I like what the Audiofire8 was supposed to do, so the Layla 3G looks great. It's exactly what a want: a handful of clean balanced ins and outs to bridge my mixer to my computer, and two mic pre's on the front to bypass the mixer completely if I want to, for the cleanest stereo recording. Does the Layla 3G do the A/D in the box and send digital through the 'vga' cable, or does it send audio the way the M-audio Delta series does?. There must be a hundred PCI interfaces out there. I'd like suggestions on other PCI solutions that that provide at four to six 1/4" balanced ins and outs, and if two of the ins are phantom powered XLR capable, than that's ok. S/PDIF is a plus. I also really like the 'virtual outputs' of my Echo MIA MIDI. If the internal mixer had such a feature, it would lessen my need for a large number of outputs. Thanks, Tobiah |
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On 8/11/2011 2:56 PM, Tobiah wrote:
Does the Layla 3G do the A/D in the box and send digital through the 'vga' cable, or does it send audio the way the M-audio Delta series does?. I don't know, and I don't care, and I you shouldn't care either. You're probably concerned about bringing audio into the noisy PC environment. Well, for a good designer, it's never been a problem. This isn't 1994 any more. The last Echo interface I had around here was a Gina probably ten years ago. On that one, the box was just for the connectors. Maybe it had the mic preamps in it. But the A/D and D/A converters were on the card that went into the computer. Noise wasn't a problem. -- "Today's production equipment is IT based and cannot be operated without a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be operated without a passing knowledge of audio." - John Watkinson http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com - useful and interesting audio stuff |
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Ditching Audiofire8 - next?
For what it's worth, for what you describe, you might look into a used
Frontier Tango24. It's simply a converter that has eight 1/4" ins and outs, decent sound quality, word clock capability and ADAT lightpipe. You'll need a PCI card with optical ins and outs. Shouldn't set you back more than a few hundred dollars on eBay. If you don't need a bit depth greater than 24 or a sample rate faster than 48 kHz, they're pretty nice. They're not manufactured anymore but they're in the class of used gear worth taking a look at. I have three going into an RME Hammerfall card. I get generally good results with that. malachi "Tobiah" wrote in message ... I have worked with Echo tech support through three mother boards, and four firewire cards and endless OS tweaks, and nothing will stop the periodic underruns I'm getting. My latest motherboard has the older PCI slots, so my choices are greater now. I like what the Audiofire8 was supposed to do, so the Layla 3G looks great. It's exactly what a want: a handful of clean balanced ins and outs to bridge my mixer to my computer, and two mic pre's on the front to bypass the mixer completely if I want to, for the cleanest stereo recording. |
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Ditching Audiofire8 - next?
"Tobiah" wrote in message ... I have worked with Echo tech support through three mother boards, and four firewire cards and endless OS tweaks, and nothing will stop the periodic underruns I'm getting. Did you check dpc latency and set PCI latency higher? Did you set windows to prioritize background processes? In what situations do you get underruns? What is your buffer size? |
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On 8/27/2011 4:40 AM, Badmuts wrote:
wrote in message ... I have worked with Echo tech support through three mother boards, and four firewire cards and endless OS tweaks, and nothing will stop the periodic underruns I'm getting. Did you check dpc latency and set PCI latency higher? Did you set windows to prioritize background processes? In what situations do you get underruns? What is your buffer size? I did do those things. Buffer size makes no difference. The DPC latency program always shows green. I used a high performance profile with all eye candy turned off etc. Nothing will stop the Echo Firewire Analyzer from showing occasional underruns/overflows ever minute to two minutes. Each one is audible. Their tech support has given up on me and no longer responds after weeks of my trying suggestions. Nothing mitigates the problem. I'm no suspecting the Audiofire itself. All of the other hardware has been upgraded two or three times. |
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Ditching Audiofire8 - next?
"Nothing mitigates the problem. I'm now suspecting the
Audiofire itself. All of the other hardware has been upgraded two or three times." Prediction: Hooking it up to a Macintosh will "mitigate" the problem. The piece of hardware you should be upgrading is the _computer_ (and the OS that it's running on)! |
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Ditching Audiofire8 - next?
John Albert:
"Nothing mitigates the problem. I'm now suspecting the Audiofire itself. All of the other hardware has been upgraded two or three times." Prediction: Hooking it up to a Macintosh will "mitigate" the problem. The piece of hardware you should be upgrading is the _computer_ (and the OS that it's running on)! IF you really believe, that hooking the interface up to a Mac running Mac OS is a safe bet against any potential, then you haven´t experienced the Mac OS X driver for Presonus´ Firestudio FW. ;-) Last summer, the latest driver version from the Presonus website caused the Mac-equivalent of a "blue screen of death" on Windows - with a well-equipped Mac Pro and a MacBook Pro. Fortunately, at least the older driver on the included CD somehow works, though seemingly also not reliably stable. The unit had just been sent in for service and the tech guy said on the phone, that it worked alright with his Windows PC. Problems can occur with all hard- and software setups... it may just take poorly written drivers. |
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Ditching Audiofire8 - next?
"Phil W" wrote in message ... IF you really believe, that hooking the interface up to a Mac running Mac OS is a safe bet against any potential, then you haven´t experienced the Mac OS X driver for Presonus´ Firestudio FW. ;-) Last summer, the latest driver version from the Presonus website caused the Mac-equivalent of a "blue screen of death" on Windows - with a well-equipped Mac Pro and a MacBook Pro. Fortunately, at least the older driver on the included CD somehow works, though seemingly also not reliably stable. The unit had just been sent in for service and the tech guy said on the phone, that it worked alright with his Windows PC. Problems can occur with all hard- and software setups... it may just take poorly written drivers. Exactly, but it's amazing how many people would rather blame the computer or OS for badly written drivers, especially the companies that wrote them! Trevor. |
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The Washington Redskins running back Tim Hightower has looked amazing during the preseason, in which Hightower wore Cheap NFL Jerseys and made a 37-yard touchdown run against the Ravnes on Thursday night. At the same time, wearing NFL Shop, Tim Hightower also bullied the Steelers. Of course, Tim Hightower Redskins jersey has become quite shining in and off the field. And people would think it’s the breakout season for the running back Tim Hightower. However, we have to clearly know that this is what Redskins head coach Mike Shanahan usually does, his lulling people into believing that Hightower is going to have a big season.
Exactly, Tim Hightower looked impressive. But we must confess this is only in the preseason. Of course, Tim Hightower did also give us foam expectation in 2009, when he averaged 5.0 rushing yards in his first three preseason games, but not finally becoming a fantasy monster though he had eight rushing touchdowns that season. Therefore, we should have to keep an eye on Tim Hightower. |
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