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The Krooborg still appears to be mentally ill. Oh well. |
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George M. Middius wrote: The Krooborg still appears to be mentally ill. Oh well. There was something new to me in another group. Meanwhile: http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiw...-fanatical-rel igio And sadomasochism--I know this sounds a little strange--is what defines the essential character, you know, that--this is what--at least what I've discovered--of the Republican follower of today. They're sadistic in that they want to lash out at deviants, at people who are weaker than them, homosexuals, immigrants, foreigners, socialists. At the same time, they're masochistic. They are followers of a higher cause, of a strong leader, a magic helper like Dobson or George W. Bush or the macho Jesus archetype that they worship. And this is what defines this movement. So many of the people that Dobson has been able to get close to and work with in the Republican Congress and in American culture have been viciously abused as children. And he understood that by advocating violence against children, deliberate violence, he was creating this sensibility, which would produce a radical generation of political followers. -- Here's hoping those who've gone Galt stay Galt. Stephen |
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MiNe 109 said: So many of the people that Dobson has been able to get close to and work with in the Republican Congress and in American culture have been viciously abused as children. And he understood that by advocating violence against children, deliberate violence, he was creating this sensibility, which would produce a radical generation of political followers. I assume you're quoting Neiwert or Blumenthal. I can't figure out what's being said. Since when does Dobson, loony Bible-thumper though he is, "advocate violence against children"? According to Wiki, Dobson received "'The Children's Friend' honor by Childhelp USA (an advocate agency against child abuse) in 1987, and the Humanitarian Award by the California Psychological Association in 1988." Maybe you can decode Neiwert's or Blumenthal's thoughts. |
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George M. Middius wrote: MiNe 109 said: So many of the people that Dobson has been able to get close to and work with in the Republican Congress and in American culture have been viciously abused as children. And he understood that by advocating violence against children, deliberate violence, he was creating this sensibility, which would produce a radical generation of political followers. I assume you're quoting Neiwert or Blumenthal. I can't figure out what's being said. Since when does Dobson, loony Bible-thumper though he is, "advocate violence against children"? According to Wiki, Dobson received "'The Children's Friend' honor by Childhelp USA (an advocate agency against child abuse) in 1987, and the Humanitarian Award by the California Psychological Association in 1988." Maybe you can decode Neiwert's or Blumenthal's thoughts. It's Blumenthal, transcribed from a Democracy Now! interview. I quoted selectively to emphasize the S&M bit. The child abuse claim is from his best-selling book Dare to Discipline in which he advocates spanking. Blumenthal again: Where did Dobson's fortune come from? How did he erect this empire? It came mainly from one book, which I quote from extensively in my book, Republican Gomorrah--Dare to Discipline, which is essentially a manual for corporal punishment, for beating your child. In this book, he says pain is a marvelous purifier that a child should be--that pain goes a long way with a child, that pain should be dispensed sufficiently enough to make a child cry, but then the child will crumple to your breast, and you should welcome the child with warm, open arms. This is a recipe for sadomasochism. -- Obviously parents differ on this, but "most child-care experts today disapprove of physical punishment." says the NYT, quoted in the wiki article on Dobson. Stephen |
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MiNe 109 said: Maybe you can decode Neiwert's or Blumenthal's thoughts. It's Blumenthal, transcribed from a Democracy Now! interview. I quoted selectively to emphasize the S&M bit. The child abuse claim is from his best-selling book Dare to Discipline in which he advocates spanking. Blumenthal again: Where did Dobson's fortune come from? How did he erect this empire? It came mainly from one book, which I quote from extensively in my book, Republican Gomorrah--Dare to Discipline, which is essentially a manual for corporal punishment, for beating your child. In this book, he says pain is a marvelous purifier that a child should be--that pain goes a long way with a child, that pain should be dispensed sufficiently enough to make a child cry, but then the child will crumple to your breast, and you should welcome the child with warm, open arms. This is a recipe for sadomasochism. Obviously parents differ on this, but "most child-care experts today disapprove of physical punishment." says the NYT, quoted in the wiki article on Dobson. Aren't we in canard territory here? I thought the "disciplinary" aspect of child-beating was long discredited as window-dressing for sadism. |
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On Sep 5, 8:09*pm, MiNe 109 wrote:
Here's hoping those who've gone Galt stay Galt. Cheers. |
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On Sep 5, 7:13 pm, George M. Middius wrote:
The Krooborg still appears to be mentally ill. Oh well. That's like the pot calling the kettle black.... |
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On Sep 6, 1:24*am, Bret L wrote:
On Sep 5, 7:13 pm, George M. Middius wrote: The Krooborg still appears to be mentally ill. Oh well. *That's like the pot calling the kettle black.... Or the pot calling the kettle calling the pot black in this case. What college did you go to, Bratzi? |
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George M. Middius wrote: MiNe 109 said: Maybe you can decode Neiwert's or Blumenthal's thoughts. It's Blumenthal, transcribed from a Democracy Now! interview. I quoted selectively to emphasize the S&M bit. The child abuse claim is from his best-selling book Dare to Discipline in which he advocates spanking. Blumenthal again: Where did Dobson's fortune come from? How did he erect this empire? It came mainly from one book, which I quote from extensively in my book, Republican Gomorrah--Dare to Discipline, which is essentially a manual for corporal punishment, for beating your child. In this book, he says pain is a marvelous purifier that a child should be--that pain goes a long way with a child, that pain should be dispensed sufficiently enough to make a child cry, but then the child will crumple to your breast, and you should welcome the child with warm, open arms. This is a recipe for sadomasochism. Obviously parents differ on this, but "most child-care experts today disapprove of physical punishment." says the NYT, quoted in the wiki article on Dobson. Aren't we in canard territory here? I thought the "disciplinary" aspect of child-beating was long discredited as window-dressing for sadism. If you want a book to justify it, Dobson has one to sell you. If you write him for advice, he has a staff to reply to you and put you on his mailing lists. Stephen |
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On Sep 6, 4:44*pm, ScottW2 wrote:
On Sep 5, 6:09*pm, MiNe 109 * wrote: In article , *George M. Middius wrote: The Krooborg still appears to be mentally ill. Oh well. There was something new to me in another group. Meanwhile: http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiw...-fanatical-rel igio And sadomasochism--I know this sounds a little strange--is what defines the essential character, you know, that--this is what--at least what I've discovered--of the Republican follower of today. They're sadistic in that they want to lash out at deviants, at people who are weaker than them, homosexuals, immigrants, foreigners, socialists. At the same time, they're masochistic. They are followers of a higher cause, of a strong leader, a magic helper like Dobson or George W. Bush or the macho Jesus archetype that they worship. And this is what defines this movement. So many of the people that Dobson has been able to get close to and work with in the Republican Congress and in American culture have been viciously abused as children. And he understood that by advocating violence against children, deliberate violence, he was creating this sensibility, which would produce a radical generation of political followers. -- Here's hoping those who've gone Galt stay Galt. Poor Stephen, * His hope is that someone will one day notice, he's been gone Galt his whole life. And now Stephen's hope is unfullfilled: 2pid couldn't stay Galt. He (like Bratzi) feels some pathological need to 'enlighten' us. LoL. |
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