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Old January 5th 20, 08:05 AM posted to rec.audio.pro
geoff
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On 5/01/2020 4:11 am, wrote:
> Mike Rivers wrote:
>
>> Maybe to share. While MP3 doesn't offer the highest fidelity,
>> it's the most common audio file format and just about everyone
>> can play it. Some people might balk at downloading or trying
>> to play a WAV file because they don't know what it is.

>
> WAV sure would make things a lot easier!
>
> What I'd like to know is why, when I double click MP3 files of songs in Windows
> Vista to play them in Windows Media Player, it takes 3-5min. to start playing?


Windows Vista ?!!!!

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Old January 5th 20, 11:25 AM posted to rec.audio.pro,uk.rec.audio
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In article >,
geoff > wrote:

> To hell with MP3s.


Yup.

> The mono thing can be achieved at the ALC-FLAC (or whatever target
> format) stage with whichever software (in my case Sound Forge).


I tend to use 'sox' for audio conversions, inc those to flac. IIRC when
given a 'mono content in a stereo wave file' it tends to generate a flac
file of much the same size regardless of if you tell it to output a mono (
1 channel) or stereo ( 2 channels) flac result. Seems able to detect that
the two input patterns are the same and make use of that.

May not work when converting a 'stereo' capture of an old mono LP with
loads of background noise, though, as the noise won't be the same in both
channels.

Use sox because I often symultaneously use it to do other conversions when
not starting with a CD rip.

Jim

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Old January 5th 20, 11:27 AM posted to rec.audio.pro,uk.rec.audio
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In article >, Mike Rivers
>
wrote:

> Maybe to share. While MP3 doesn't offer the highest fidelity, it's the
> most common audio file format and just about everyone can play it.


Given that many decent DAPs, etc, support better codecs, that's a pretty
sad fact if true. Bit like finding that most people still use shellac 78s!

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Old January 5th 20, 01:52 PM posted to rec.audio.pro,uk.rec.audio
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Yes but the file itself seems to have no purpose at all.
I know that you can make a wav file into an html email using mime as I used
to do this very thing to annoy people.
Brian

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> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 08:56:08 -0000, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\)"
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>>I've just looked at the file. Its very short and sounds like somebody
>>trying
>>to record something with the microphone inside a backpack next to some
>>noisy
>>machinery. What on earth is the point in making it into an mp3, its very
>>short already and unless its some alien communication it seems a trifle
>>useless.
>> Brian

>
> Can you embed a WAV file in an HTML web page? Obviously you can embed
> an MP3 file in a web page, but I think you can't with a WAV.
>
> According to;
>
>
https://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_audio.asp
>
> you cannot use an AUDIO element for a WAV for IE/Edge.
>
> This is adquate reason for converting to MP3.



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Old January 5th 20, 01:56 PM posted to rec.audio.pro,uk.rec.audio
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I understand that at present the accessibility guidelines say that no sound
should be started by the loading of a web page as the person using a
screenreader will not know how to stop the sound to be able to hear their
speech.
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> 2020-01-04 10:49
lid:
>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 08:56:08 -0000, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\)"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I've just looked at the file. Its very short and sounds like somebody
>>> trying
>>> to record something with the microphone inside a backpack next to some
>>> noisy
>>> machinery. What on earth is the point in making it into an mp3, its very
>>> short already and unless its some alien communication it seems a trifle
>>> useless.
>>> Brian

>>
>> Can you embed a WAV file in an HTML web page? Obviously you can embed
>> an MP3 file in a web page, but I think you can't with a WAV.
>>
>> According to;
>>
>>
https://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_audio.asp
>>
>> you cannot use an AUDIO element for a WAV for IE/Edge.
>>
>> This is adquate reason for converting to MP3.

>
> So, you do not really need a file encoded with the original Fraunhofer MP3
> codec, which is not available for free, but just a file, that looks like
> an MP3 encoded by whatever codec.
> In such cases a LAME (=Lame Ain´t an MP3 Encoder, because of copyright
> stuff) encoder with whatever program and the generated file with a .mp3
> ending will be good enough for any browser.
>
> If you´re using Windows, try https://www.rarewares.org/mp3-lamedrop.php
> - of course the latest version, not the original one from 2001.
> No installation required, just unpack the .exe and start it.
> A *small* window will open, right click this for encoding options.
>
> Suggested settings - probably more than required, but the safest bet
> possible:
> - (x) Bitrate, "Enter Target Bitrate: 320", check "Restrict to Constant
> Bitrate (CBR)
> - Encoding Engine Quality: HIGH, if applicable check "Mono Encoding"
> - leave *all* other settings UNchecked
> - Accept
>
> Next, right click the window again for "Tagging setup" and UNcheck
> everything.
>
> By default, output directory = input directory.
>
> Now, drag and drop your source file onto the LameDropXPd window to start
> encoding - the target file will be the same file name as the input .WAV
> but with .MP3 ending
>
> hint: all those settings will be written to a .ini file in the same
> directory and the .exe and used every time for new encoding sessions.
>
> Sounds like a lot of parameters? In my experience still the least effort
> compared to any other MP3/LAME encoder I´ve tried during the last 20 years
> and much easier than using Audacity or Goldwave just for the LAME encoder.
>
> Good luck with your quest!



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Old January 5th 20, 01:58 PM posted to rec.audio.pro,uk.rec.audio
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Yes the lame conversion system is almost universally used these days as its
free and nowadays is not any worse than the posh paid for variety.
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> On 04/01/2020 09:49,
lid wrote:
>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 08:56:08 -0000, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\)"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I've just looked at the file. Its very short and sounds like somebody
>>> trying
>>> to record something with the microphone inside a backpack next to some
>>> noisy
>>> machinery. What on earth is the point in making it into an mp3, its very
>>> short already and unless its some alien communication it seems a trifle
>>> useless.
>>> Brian

>>
>> Can you embed a WAV file in an HTML web page? Obviously you can embed
>> an MP3 file in a web page, but I think you can't with a WAV.
>>
>> According to;
>>
>>
https://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_audio.asp
>>
>> you cannot use an AUDIO element for a WAV for IE/Edge.
>>
>> This is adquate reason for converting to MP3.
>>

> Your questions/concerns are overkill for what you want.
>
> As others already said there are plenty of free programs with which the
> conversion to a perfectly adequate mp3 file is a trivial task. If you
> prefer you can even do it online:
> https://online-audio-converter.com/
>



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Old January 5th 20, 03:21 PM posted to rec.audio.pro
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geoff wrote:

>Windows Vista ?!!!!


>geoff



Overall, works fine. Just a little slower overall than when new, but that Media
Player behavior when asked to play MP3s has been like that only the last
few years. Before that, it would play any music file format within three seconds
of clicking on it(except AIFF of course - need QT for that).
  #28  
Old January 5th 20, 06:39 PM posted to rec.audio.pro
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> wrote:
>geoff wrote:
>
>>Windows Vista ?!!!!

>
>>geoff

>
>Overall, works fine. Just a little slower overall than when new, but that Media
>Player behavior when asked to play MP3s has been like that only the last
>few years. Before that, it would play any music file format within three seconds
>of clicking on it(except AIFF of course - need QT for that).


If Vista works at all, it's a miracle worthy of a call to the Pope.
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Old January 5th 20, 08:20 PM posted to rec.audio.pro,uk.rec.audio
Les Cargill[_4_]
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Scott Dorsey wrote:
> > wrote:
>> I need help from the specialists on this group.
>>
>>
>> Please download and examine the following WAV file;
>>
>> http://www.c-compiler.com/myfiles/stgeorges-201219.WAV
>>
>> I want to convert this to an MP3 file.
>>
>> Please tell me what settings I should use for the MP3 file, eg; MP3
>> Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec (professional), attributes eg 128
>> kbit/sec, 48.000 Hz, Mono
>>
>> Please try to give specfic advice, because my understanding of audio
>> formats is poor, and I need guidance as to the best MP3 parameters for
>> this conversion.

>
> This is basically what a mastering engineer does. The mastering engineer
> will listen to different codecs and make encoding adjustments (each of the
> codecs has several hundred settings) in order to get the encoding as
> transparent as possible.
>
> It sounds to me like you are asking someone to do the job of a mastering
> engineer for you, without paying them. This is not likely to happen.
>
> My suggestion is that if you don't care about streaming that you just
> use the highest bit rate available, use the LAME encoder, and it won't
> be horrible. If you care about streaming and want compromises to be made
> in a reasonable fashion, you will get what you pay for.
> --scott
>


I've roundtripped thru the LAME encoder at -V 1 ( the next to highest
quality setting ) and the resulting delta isn't that significant. This
may be program material sensitive.

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Old January 5th 20, 08:23 PM posted to rec.audio.pro
Les Cargill[_4_]
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John Williamson wrote:
> On 04/01/2020 16:35, Mike Rivers wrote:
>> Maybe it's going out to a few web sites to see if the music is stolen? I
>> use WinAmp (yes, it's old) and it plays just about anything, real
>> snappy. And the best feature for me - and I've looked for this in other
>> media players and haven't found it - is the Bookmarks. I save the URL of
>> streaming radio stations that I like to listen to and can get to them
>> straight from WinAmp without having to open a real web browser.
>>

> It was a real shame when support for Winamp was discontinued after the
> original team were bought out.
>
> Luckily, versions for Windows and Android are still available if you
> search.
>


They went on to found REAPER, so it wasn't all bad. I have an old
version of WinAmp, and it seems to work great.

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