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Schoeps for vocals question
I think Ty might be the only regular here who has had his hands on a schoeps V4u, but I'm wondering why, at $3k, one would want to use that for vocals in a studio setting instead of an mk4 (or really any other pattern appropriate collete). I've used my mk41 on various singers a few times now and aside from the low low end being a little light it's a superb vocal mic. I imagine an mk4 or 21 would be even better, depending on the room.... Is it an image thing? I.e. People are averse to using a small condenser on vocals?
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Nate Najar wrote:
I think Ty might be the only regular here who has had his hands on a schoep= s V4u, but I'm wondering why, at $3k, one would want to use that for vocals= in a studio setting instead of an mk4 (or really any other pattern appropr= iate collete). I've used my mk41 on various singers a few times now and as= ide from the low low end being a little light it's a superb vocal mic. I i= magine an mk4 or 21 would be even better, depending on the room.... Is it a= n image thing? I.e. People are averse to using a small condenser on vocals= ? Because the V4u is intended to give a bigger than life sound, rather than an accurate vocal sound. If I were recording a classical vocalist where a lot of the sound is coming from the chest (even with a soprano) and where an accurate vocal sound was most important, the MK41 is one of the first things I'd grab. If I were recording a deliberately artificial "bigger than life" pop music sound I would probably grab something very different. If, however, you want to get a "bigger than life" sound from your MK41, get some Gatorfoam or similar sheet and cut a disc about 5 inches around. Put a hole in it, stick the mike through the hole so it's just poking through and the sheet is behind the side vents. Tell me if it doesn't sound bigger. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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On 12-09-2014 17:15, Nate Najar wrote:
I think Ty might be the only regular here who has had his hands on a schoeps V4u, but I'm wondering why, at $3k, one would want to use that for vocals Because saying that you have it could give you the job. in a studio setting instead of an mk4 (or really any other pattern appropriate collette). I have tried deploying one pair of C42's on choir and two non-paired on soloists in a Handel recording. Worked charmingly well. But I'd still love to have a pair of TLM 102's for vox and guitar, Ty's test was impressive. I've used my mk41 on various singers a few times now and aside from the low low end being a little light it's a superb vocal mic. Some of the time miking vox is about conveying what is there. I imagine an mk4 or 21 would be even better, depending on the room.... 21 definitely. Is it an image thing? I.e. People are averse to using a small condenser on vocals? They don't do it in the brochures and the glossy magazines, so the "theysayers" aren't likely to even try it, because theysay that you need a 1". Some of the time theysay is right, namely when it gets to be about adding what isn't there. The same mic can be awful on a man with dentures and a blessing on a girl with "restrained pronounciation", not an impediment, just not an open sounding voice, speaking like having a potato in the mouth. Kind regards Peter Larsen |
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One reason many engineers are reluctant to use small-diaphragm condenser mics on vocalists is that many of them are very suscsptible to P-popping, more so than most large-diaphragm condensers. Whether this is inherent in the designs or a matter of poor screen design, I don't know.
Peace, Paul |
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