I have an HHB CDR 850 which began to act funny earlier this year. It began to
intermittantly not recognize valid CDRs and then began refusing to enter record
mode and/or to finalize discs. I took it to a local repair shop but they were
unable to repair it and suggested factory repair. I located the closest repair
shops (all of which are more than 100 miles away) and was told by one shop that
it was likely a repair that would cost $750 -$900. Another place guessed at
about $350-$500. This seems exhorbitant to me for a unit that originally cost
$1100. I hate to just give up on having it fixed.
Can anyone recommend a reputable and honest repair shop that works on HHB CDR
units. I guess distance from me is not much of an object because it will
apparently have to be shipped in any event. However, I am near San Francisco.
Thanks for any help,

Garth~


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Ed Cherney

In article writes:

it was likely a repair that would cost $750 -$900. Another place guessed at
about $350-$500. This seems exhorbitant to me for a unit that originally cost
$1100. I hate to just give up on having it fixed.

I hate when that happens, but it's been happening more and more these
days. The pile of things that don't work but are too expensive to
throw away is getting higher.

Can anyone recommend a reputable and honest repair shop that works on HHB CDR
units.

I suspect that both of those estimates are fairly honest. It's not
likely that there's anything they can do but replace the transport.
While you might be able to buy a CD-R for your computer at Micro
Center for $35, for some reason these things seem to cost a fortune.
The TASCAM CDRW-5000 that I bought a while back when Sam Ash was
blowing them out arrived DOA, and Sam didn't have any more to send me
a replacement. I took it to the local TEAC authorized repair shop
(only 10 miles away in my case), they repaired it under warranty by
replacing the transport, and between the parts (the major part of the
cost) and labor (an hour), TEAC ate about $700. I only paid $300 for
the unit.

It's possible, since yours didn't quit in a puff of smoke, that it's
suffering the same obsolescence disease as my TASCAM - that they don't
make CD-R blanks like they used to when the transport was designed.
I'm not fussy about what kind of disks I buy (never tried the big bux
Taiyo Yuden or that other "good" brand) and I've found that
occasionally I'll buy a pack of disks that don't pass the laser
calibration and wont' record. I didn't have that problem with disks
that I was buying two years ago. The transport has the latest ROM in
it, and that's as far as upgrades go. It has probably burned fewer
than 50 disks, so I doubt that it's worn out, particularly since it
works fine with other batches of blanks.

I've been meaning to write or call Cassette House, a long time media
supplier, to see if they have any customers with machines like mine
who have found a brand that works consistently. When you buy
whatever's on special at Office Depot or Best Buy, you never know what
you get, but I suspect that a place like Cassette House knows the
origin of much of what they sell.



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Mike Rivers wrote:

garthrr writes:

it was likely a repair that would cost $750 -$900. Another place guessed
at about $350-$500. This seems exhorbitant to me for a unit that
originally cost $1100. I hate to just give up on having it fixed.

I hate when that happens, but it's been happening more and more these
days. The pile of things that don't work but are too expensive to
throw away is getting higher.

Can anyone recommend a reputable and honest repair shop that works on
HHB CDR units.

I suspect that both of those estimates are fairly honest. It's not
likely that there's anything they can do but replace the transport.

But, I'd open it up and at least try cleaning the lens, and examining
the transport to see if dust or coagulated lubricant is the problem, in
which case some foam wipes and sewing machine oil might do a trick.

I hate this **** where things cannot be reparied reasonably. It's about
the least planetarily intelligent approach imaginable.

--
ha

In article znr1070459775k@trad, Mike Rivers wrote:

I've been meaning to write or call Cassette House, a long time media
supplier, to see if they have any customers with machines like mine
who have found a brand that works consistently. When you buy
whatever's on special at Office Depot or Best Buy, you never know what
you get, but I suspect that a place like Cassette House knows the
origin of much of what they sell.

I buy Mitsuis from the Cassette House and I have never had a problem with
them on the HHB 800. Consistently low error rates.
--scott

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In article writes:

I buy Mitsuis from the Cassette House and I have never had a problem with
them on the HHB 800. Consistently low error rates.

I was at the Gov't Video Expo today and chatted with someone from
Mitsui. She gave me a couple of samples of their 650 MB 24x CD-R
blanks that she said were made for real time recording. Apparently
they realize that this has different requirements than high speed
computer writing, and are still willing to support it. I'll probably
place an order with Cassette House while the gettin' is good if these
samples work OK with my TASCAM recorder.


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In Article ,
(Garthrr) wrote:
I have an HHB CDR 850 which began to act funny earlier this year. It began to
intermittantly not recognize valid CDRs and then began refusing to enter record
mode and/or to finalize discs. I took it to a local repair shop but they were
unable to repair it and suggested factory repair. I located the closest repair
shops (all of which are more than 100 miles away) and was told by one shop that
it was likely a repair that would cost $750 -$900. Another place guessed at
about $350-$500. This seems exhorbitant to me for a unit that originally cost
$1100. I hate to just give up on having it fixed.
Can anyone recommend a reputable and honest repair shop that works on HHB CDR
units. I guess distance from me is not much of an object because it will
apparently have to be shipped in any event. However, I am near San Francisco.
Thanks for any help,

Garth~


Garth,

Eric Toline, a frequent visitor here, just told me of an HHB MD repair
problem. In the end his client sent the MD recorder/player to Sennheiser who
now distribute HHB in this country.

As such, I suggest you contact Sennheiser in Connecticut.

Regards,

Ty Ford

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In Article znr1070459775k@trad, (Mike Rivers) wrote:
I'm not fussy about what kind of disks I buy (never tried the big bux
Taiyo Yuden or that other "good" brand) and I've found that
occasionally I'll buy a pack of disks that don't pass the laser
calibration and wont' record. I didn't have that problem with disks
that I was buying two years ago. The transport has the latest ROM in
it, and that's as far as upgrades go. It has probably burned fewer
than 50 disks, so I doubt that it's worn out, particularly since it
works fine with other batches of blanks.


Jeeze Mike,

I'm paying .60 ea for Taiyo Yuden Gold in a jewel box in lots of 100. The
quality lets me sleep well at night and I don't think .60/ea is big bux.


Regards,

Ty Ford

PS: I have the earlier HHB 800. I don't use it THAT frequently, but so far,
so good.

Were I going out today to buy a stanalone burner, it would be a Sony w33 or w66.

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HHB repair dilemma

Group: rec.audio.pro Date: Thu, Dec 4, 2003, 1:44pm (EST+5) From:
(Ty=A0Ford)
In Article


Eric Toline, a frequent visitor here, just told me of an HHB MD repair
problem. In the end his client sent the MD recorder/player to Sennheiser
who now distribute HHB in this country.
As such, I suggest you contact Sennheiser in Connecticut.
Regards,
Ty Ford

In the case above since the unit was somewhat DOA Sennheiser is going to
replace it. For all other HHb repairs you're going to be referred to one
of three authorized HHb repair places in the country.

As I later found out the repair place in Pennsylvania is the best.
814-383-4442.

Eric

Ty Ford wrote:

Were I going out today to buy a stanalone burner, it
would be a Sony w33 or w66.

Why? What they got that's good to you? Just curious.

--
ha

In article , (Ty
Ford) writes:

I'm paying .60 ea for Taiyo Yuden Gold in a jewel box in lots of 100. The
quality lets me sleep well at night and I don't think .60/ea is big bux.


Not when you consider that (if what I'm told is true) at one time CDRs were
nearly $200 each!

Garth~


"I think the fact that music can come up a wire is a miracle."
Ed Cherney

HHB repair dilemma

Group: rec.audio.pro Date: Thu, Dec 4, 2003, 9:26pm From:
(Mike=A0Rivers)
In article


Don't know what the deal with HHB in the US is now.

All HHb products that were handled by HHb USA are now distributed by
Sennheiser USA. HHb USA is no more.

Eric

In article writes:

Jeeze Mike,
I'm paying .60 ea for Taiyo Yuden Gold in a jewel box in lots of 100. The
quality lets me sleep well at night and I don't think .60/ea is big bux.

No, it isn't, for the handful of disks I'd use in a year. But $60 for
100 disks that don't work in my TASCAM recorder is a lot to pay for
disks for the computer. That's why I want to:

(a) Try before I buy and
(b) Be assured that I'm buying what I tried






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In article writes:

Ty Ford wrote:
Were I going out today to buy a stanalone burner, it
would be a Sony w33 or w66.

Why? What they got that's good to you? Just curious.

Probably availability. I guess TASCAM and Denon still have them. Don't
know what the deal with HHB in the US is now.

As I recall, the W66 lets you plug in a keyboard and add text to the
CDs for players that can display it.




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hhb is now distributed by sennheiser.

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In article znr1070571096k@trad, (Mike Rivers) wrote:





In article
writes:

Ty Ford wrote:
Were I going out today to buy a stanalone burner, it
would be a Sony w33 or w66.

Why? What they got that's good to you? Just curious.

Probably availability. I guess TASCAM and Denon still have them. Don't
know what the deal with HHB in the US is now.

As I recall, the W66 lets you plug in a keyboard and add text to the
CDs for players that can display it.




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In article . net writes:

hhb is now distributed by sennheiser.

We're talking about repairs here. How does Sennheiser handle them?
Everything go back to Connecticut? Or Germany? Or are there authorized
repair stations? Or did you just have the urge to tell me something I
might not know? (I already knew about the distribution)

Not that I care, but since you replied to me, I thought I'd ask out
of curiosity.


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i was replying to this comment:
"Probably availability. I guess TASCAM and Denon still have them. Don't
know what the deal with HHB in the US is now."
it seemed to refer to the availability of cd burners. i don't know about the
repair situation yet.

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In article znr1070739325k@trad, (Mike Rivers) wrote:





In article . net
writes:

hhb is now distributed by sennheiser.

We're talking about repairs here. How does Sennheiser handle them?
Everything go back to Connecticut? Or Germany? Or are there authorized
repair stations? Or did you just have the urge to tell me something I
might not know? (I already knew about the distribution)

Not that I care, but since you replied to me, I thought I'd ask out
of curiosity.


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HHB repair is done by NXT Generation.

I have the address at the Studio, but they aren't hard to find with a search .
Very good service.
Richard H. Kuschel
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