I thought I might ask this on this board, since you guys obviously
know your stuff and have been around in the music world.

Does Jim (the lead singer of Simple Minds) sing "live"? I mean, does
he really sing or use taped vocals stuff to mouth to like some artists
do for some songs? How can you tell exactly? Does it seem like he
does?.. for those of you that have seen them live, or know anyone
who's linked.
I don't mean like Top of the Pops, or commercially released concert
video or whatever.. Just regular live concerts.

I was on another music board and a fan was talking about Simple Minds
and supposedly how Jim doesn't really sing live and that he uses one
of those tape things. For whaever reason. Is this true? I have never
been to a SM concert, so I would not know.

The person said it's done through something like (sorry, I really know
nothing about these technical things. if anyone would like to explain,
i'd be very interested in general) a sounding board or mixing board,
something like that. And what they do is where they do stuff for
effects and echoes, etc., this is where they run such pre-recorded
vocals through, too.
And they run it through and set it up where it will flow through the
venue, as if it were coming through the microphone then to the
speakers.
Not sure how that works. ?

Now, I have heard others do it this way too, and does it sound/seem
like Jim is actually singing through his mic?

This person who told me this claims they supposedly even worked with
and as a sound techs and things like that the past few years. Not
SM's, but other bands.

If anyone wants to explain some of that stuff to me or anything you
would not want to put on here for clogging up the place, you can email
me:


Thanks in advance!

On 12 Sep 2004 17:55:17 -0700,
(GreenSlimer) wrote:

I was on another music board and a fan was talking about Simple Minds
and supposedly how Jim doesn't really sing live and that he uses one
of those tape things. For whaever reason. Is this true?

This would of course be contrary to every consumer-protection law ever
drafted. If you ever suspect a recording is being passed off as live
performance, call the police immediately.

I have never
been to a SM concert, so I would not know.

You'd like it. I'm sure you'd look good in leather. Hint - just
take a small whip until you're more experienced.

I was just simply asking a question.

(GreenSlimer) wrote in message . com...
I was just simply asking a question.

What you describe is called "lip-syncing." It is a fact of life in
major touring music shows. Different shows use it to varying degrees,
but from what I have read, it is more common for singers who are also
dancing on stage, simply due to the amount of physical exertion
involved.

Even if the singer is singing, the amount of audio processing can be
extensive. For instance, there are digital devices that can correct
intonation in real time. This is simply due to the demands of being on
stage and trying to sound like the studio recording.

My suggestion: Don't worry about it, and enjoy the show.

"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
...
On 12 Sep 2004 17:55:17 -0700,
I was on another music board and a fan was talking about Simple Minds
and supposedly how Jim doesn't really sing live and that he uses one
of those tape things. For whaever reason. Is this true?

This would of course be contrary to every consumer-protection law ever
drafted. If you ever suspect a recording is being passed off as live
performance, call the police immediately.

What do you expect the police to do, after they have finished laughing at
you?

TonyP.

On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 12:17:21 +1000, "TonyP"
wrote:

I was on another music board and a fan was talking about Simple Minds
and supposedly how Jim doesn't really sing live and that he uses one
of those tape things. For whaever reason. Is this true?

This would of course be contrary to every consumer-protection law ever
drafted. If you ever suspect a recording is being passed off as live
performance, call the police immediately.

What do you expect the police to do, after they have finished laughing at
you?

Depends if the band are WASPs or ethnic. If the latter, they could
beat them up.

Request him to sing a Milli Vanilli song....lol

"Georg Grosz" wrote in message
m...
(GreenSlimer) wrote in message
. com...
I was just simply asking a question.

What you describe is called "lip-syncing." It is a fact of life in
major touring music shows. Different shows use it to varying degrees,
but from what I have read, it is more common for singers who are also
dancing on stage, simply due to the amount of physical exertion
involved.

Even if the singer is singing, the amount of audio processing can be
extensive. For instance, there are digital devices that can correct
intonation in real time. This is simply due to the demands of being on
stage and trying to sound like the studio recording.

My suggestion: Don't worry about it, and enjoy the show.

Hi I'm Stephie
Lets just say that I 10+ years ago had a very long friendship with somebody very
close to the band. Jim can sing, did sing and
probably had all sort of electronic gagetry involved with the bands performance.
No band can play live without good sound mixing etc. Remember all sorts of
things can be done in a studio to enhance recorded music. Live music is another
thing entirely.
Most live performances have an element of electronic help.
Just let me say finaly I know for sure he sung live.
enhanced lyrics.any kind of live show.
"GreenSlimer" wrote in message
om...
I thought I might ask this on this board, since you guys obviously
know your stuff and have been around in the music world.

Does Jim (the lead singer of Simple Minds) sing "live"? I mean, does
he really sing or use taped vocals stuff to mouth to like some artists
do for some songs? How can you tell exactly? Does it seem like he
does?.. for those of you that have seen them live, or know anyone
who's linked.
I don't mean like Top of the Pops, or commercially released concert
video or whatever.. Just regular live concerts.

I was on another music board and a fan was talking about Simple Minds
and supposedly how Jim doesn't really sing live and that he uses one
of those tape things. For whaever reason. Is this true? I have never
been to a SM concert, so I would not know.

The person said it's done through something like (sorry, I really know
nothing about these technical things. if anyone would like to explain,
i'd be very interested in general) a sounding board or mixing board,
something like that. And what they do is where they do stuff for
effects and echoes, etc., this is where they run such pre-recorded
vocals through, too.
And they run it through and set it up where it will flow through the
venue, as if it were coming through the microphone then to the
speakers.
Not sure how that works. ?

Now, I have heard others do it this way too, and does it sound/seem
like Jim is actually singing through his mic?

This person who told me this claims they supposedly even worked with
and as a sound techs and things like that the past few years. Not
SM's, but other bands.

If anyone wants to explain some of that stuff to me or anything you
would not want to put on here for clogging up the place, you can email
me:


Thanks in advance!

Hi stephie.

thanks for your reply.

yeah.. i gather the band used electronic stuff and other such things
for the instruments, effects, and whatnot.
they are such an amazing band.

so, what's jim like in person?
are you still a fan of the band?

if you'd like... email me instead at: