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Amazing Discovery for sound placement
Nothing new to most of you I'm sure.. but daring on my part.
I went to church on Sunday, I noticed the drummer was on the right side (down in front of the platform) Short story, the drums were panned hard right... The piano was panned hard left.. the two met in the middle. That's all the music they had.. and it was enough.. but.. it taught me.. I need to place my musicians in my mixes this same way. Pan them on a virtual stage. I used to know of certain software, that let you drag tracks around on the stage. You was looking at say a bass amp.. but that was the bass track etc. If you listen to Tina Turner sing, "I wanna take you higher", you hear how hard left the drums are panned.. at first you think.. wow! this is going to suck.. but then.. the guitar comes in hard right.. the bass etc... what a powerful work of art. This one thing alone could bring more believability to my mixes than anything. I think. later Thank for listening. Barry |
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Amazing Discovery for sound placement
Bro Barry wrote:
The piano was panned hard left.. the two met in the middle. That's all the music they had.. and it was enough.. but.. it taught me.. Read Bobby Owsinski's book "The Mixing Engineer's Handbook". Chapter 4 is on the placement of sounds in the sound field. Chris W -- The voice of ignorance speaks loud and long, But the words of the wise are quiet and few. --- |
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Amazing Discovery for sound placement
Bro Barry wrote:
I need to place my musicians in my mixes this same way. Pan them on a virtual stage. Yes. I used to know of certain software, that let you drag tracks around on the stage. You was looking at say a bass amp.. but that was the bass track etc. You are probably talking about systems like Q-sound, which allow you to introduce phase differences between channels so that the stereo image is more realistic. Normally when we hear things from the side, they are louder in one ear than the other but the sound ALSO arrives first at one ear. Arrival time cues are more important at low frequency, while intensity is more important at high frequency. This is why using stereo miking is a big deal, even a panpotted mix. If you listen to Tina Turner sing, "I wanna take you higher", you hear how hard left the drums are panned.. at first you think.. wow! this is going to suck.. but then.. the guitar comes in hard right.. the bass etc... what a powerful work of art. This one thing alone could bring more believability to my mixes than anything. I think. What, realistic laying out of the stereo image? It's a good thing... but what happens when the track is played in mono? You can't depend on it exclusively for separation and you need to worry about comb filtering issues for mono compatibility too. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Amazing Discovery for sound placement
Bro Barry wrote:
If you listen to Tina Turner sing, "I wanna take you higher", you hear how hard left the drums are panned.. at first you think.. wow! this is going to suck.. but then.. the guitar comes in hard right.. the bass etc... what a powerful work of art. It's called a sixties record. And isn't it Sly and the Family Stone? |
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