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The new laptop will probably be a "desktop replacement" running Vista.
I need Offline Files, so it has to be Vista Business or Vista Ultimate. This won't be primarily a music machine, but I'd like to be able to plug in a Fireface and do occasional location recording. Vista Business lacks some media programs. Does it also lack any underlying audio functionality? (It would be good to avoid answers from people who don't KNOW, or who just want to rant against Microsoft :-) |
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Laurence Payne lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote: The new laptop will probably be a "desktop replacement" running Vista. I need Offline Files, so it has to be Vista Business or Vista Ultimate. This won't be primarily a music machine, but I'd like to be able to plug in a Fireface and do occasional location recording. Vista Business lacks some media programs. Does it also lack any underlying audio functionality? (It would be good to avoid answers from people who don't KNOW, or who just want to rant against Microsoft :-) http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...ions/choose.ms px or if you want to upgrade even further: http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/ - you get the one and only full Mac OS X, and if you cannot avoid it, it will run Vista too. HTH Marc -- Switzerland/Europe http://www.heusser.com remove CHEERS and from MERCIAL to get valid e-mail |
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Laurence Payne wrote: The new laptop will probably be a "desktop replacement" running Vista. snip (It would be good to avoid answers from people who don't KNOW, or who just want to rant against Microsoft :-) I'll let you know tomorrow, I just set-up Audacity on my wife's laptop to record the church choir practices. It took a bit of web searching to find the audio recording configuration window for Vista. It's in the control panel window, not on the toolbar icon. The laptop has a dual function 3.5 jack for line/mic. It did sense the insertion of the plug and inquired whether it was mic or line signal. It saw the signal from my mp3 player when I set up a record track in Audacity, so I'm hoping for the best tonight, basic stereo pair into a mic pre and straight into the laptop. KISS methodology. She just wants an archive to review what needs more work. |
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Laurence Payne wrote:
The new laptop will probably be a "desktop replacement" running Vista. I need Offline Files, so it has to be Vista Business or Vista Ultimate. This won't be primarily a music machine, but I'd like to be able to plug in a Fireface and do occasional location recording. Vista Business lacks some media programs. Does it also lack any underlying audio functionality? (It would be good to avoid answers from people who don't KNOW, or who just want to rant against Microsoft :-) This might be some help... http://rainrecording.co.uk/vista/performance |
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"Getting Older and Grumpier Gear Minion" wrote ...
The laptop has a dual function 3.5 jack for line/mic. What make/model is it? Laptops with stereo audio INputs (whether mic or line) seem pretty rare. |
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On Mar 23, 8:28 am, "Richard Crowley" wrote:
"Getting Older and Grumpier Gear Minion" wrote ... The laptop has a dual function 3.5 jack for line/mic. What make/model is it? Laptops with stereo audio INputs (whether mic or line) seem pretty rare. Dell Inspiron E1505, Intel T5200 2GB 533Mhz, 120GB HD, Integrated HD Audio. I was surprised at the method they used to get audio in. At least it doesn't need a USB mic pre for basic recording (-: She is getting a MBA through online classes and recording wasn't on the needs list when we configured it, so I'm happy it could find the signal. It may record with too high of a reality factor and totally demoralize the ensemble. The unforseen danger of applied technology. |
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On Mar 23, 7:28 am, Laurence Payne lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom
wrote: The new laptop will probably be a "desktop replacement" running Vista. I need Offline Files, so it has to be Vista Business or Vista Ultimate. T What's the Vista definition of "Offline Files?" My definition is a copy of a file on some removable media (that I've copied and removed from the computer). Surely the lower level versions of Vista don't preclude you from copying a file to a CD, DVD, flash memory drive, or even a floppy disk? If so, that's scarier than I thought. Must be some kind of networking limitation to keep beginners from messing up their computer from another computer. |
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"Laurence Payne" lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote in message news The new laptop will probably be a "desktop replacement" running Vista. I need Offline Files, so it has to be Vista Business or Vista Ultimate. This won't be primarily a music machine, but I'd like to be able to plug in a Fireface and do occasional location recording. Vista Business lacks some media programs. Does it also lack any underlying audio functionality? (It would be good to avoid answers from people who don't KNOW, or who just want to rant against Microsoft :-) It's a completely ****ed OS. I hope you didn't "upgrade"... that's the only way your hardware will be guaranteed function. I wish you luck and will be looking for your progress reports. Subscribe to these two groups and read for a couple of weeks.... microsoft.public.windows.vista.general (700 daily posts - 400 of them horror stories) microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup (300 daily posts - 200 of them horror stories). VISTA is not ready for prime time usage... the US Government refuses to use it and hardware and software manufacturers are not ready for it.... even Microsoft isn't ready for it (see their "returns and refunds" page on the web site). No major service packs to correct the thousands of glitches are in the works. |
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:23:39 GMT, Romeo Rondeau
wrote: The new laptop will probably be a "desktop replacement" running Vista. I need Offline Files, so it has to be Vista Business or Vista Ultimate. This won't be primarily a music machine, but I'd like to be able to plug in a Fireface and do occasional location recording. Vista Business lacks some media programs. Does it also lack any underlying audio functionality? (It would be good to avoid answers from people who don't KNOW, or who just want to rant against Microsoft :-) This might be some help... http://rainrecording.co.uk/vista/performance Very interesting, but it doesn't address my actual question :-) |
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On 23 Mar 2007 08:37:26 -0700, "Mike Rivers"
wrote: The new laptop will probably be a "desktop replacement" running Vista. I need Offline Files, so it has to be Vista Business or Vista Ultimate. T What's the Vista definition of "Offline Files?" My definition is a copy of a file on some removable media (that I've copied and removed from the computer). Surely the lower level versions of Vista don't preclude you from copying a file to a CD, DVD, flash memory drive, or even a floppy disk? If so, that's scarier than I thought. Must be some kind of networking limitation to keep beginners from messing up their computer from another computer. No, Mike. It's a specific name for a specific function. Available in XP Professional and some Vista versions. Rather like the Briefcase, but better. |
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:44:13 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)"
/Odm wrote: The new laptop will probably be a "desktop replacement" running Vista. I need Offline Files, so it has to be Vista Business or Vista Ultimate. This won't be primarily a music machine, but I'd like to be able to plug in a Fireface and do occasional location recording. Vista Business lacks some media programs. Does it also lack any underlying audio functionality? (It would be good to avoid answers from people who don't KNOW, or who just want to rant against Microsoft :-) It's a completely ****ed OS. I hope you didn't "upgrade"... that's the only way your hardware will be guaranteed function. I wish you luck and will be looking for your progress reports. Now, David, I DID ask nicely if we could hold the rants just for once :-) |
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"Laurence Payne" lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote in message
news Vista Business lacks some media programs. Does it also lack any underlying audio functionality? The short answer: No. /Preben Friis |
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Preben Friis wrote:
"Laurence Payne" lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote in message Vista Business lacks some media programs. Does it also lack any underlying audio functionality? The short answer: No. I believe that is the primary problem with Vista: it does not lack any functionality. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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"Romeo Rondeau" wrote in message et... Laurence Payne wrote: Vista Business lacks some media programs. Does it also lack any underlying audio functionality? This might be some help... http://rainrecording.co.uk/vista/performance Very interesting, but it doesn't address my actual question :-) It doesn't? They tested the same software on many platforms (so they obviously work), and as a bonus there are benchmarks. Romeo, you missed the "Business" part of the question.... The thing that is missing from the "Business" edition is the Windows Media Center Programs - the underlying audio functionality is the same as in the other Vista editions. And yes... interesting link. Thanks. /Preben Friis |
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"Romeo Rondeau" wrote in message . net... Laurence Payne wrote: On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:44:13 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)" /Odm wrote: The new laptop will probably be a "desktop replacement" running Vista. I need Offline Files, so it has to be Vista Business or Vista Ultimate. This won't be primarily a music machine, but I'd like to be able to plug in a Fireface and do occasional location recording. Vista Business lacks some media programs. Does it also lack any underlying audio functionality? (It would be good to avoid answers from people who don't KNOW, or who just want to rant against Microsoft :-) It's a completely ****ed OS. I hope you didn't "upgrade"... that's the only way your hardware will be guaranteed function. I wish you luck and will be looking for your progress reports. Now, David, I DID ask nicely if we could hold the rants just for once :-) I'm not ranting against MS.... I'm one helluva' fan. 3 PCs with 98SE, 3 laptops with XP Pro, two PCs with XP Home, and one with Win-2K. It's only been the past year that I've decided to update so many boxes with XP, and it isn't anywhere near the nightmare it was 4 and 5 years ago... for the most part, I love it. I've put it into a dozen people's 98 boxes last year and just put it on the church sound booth PC as well.... but it's NOT VISTA. I bought VISTA Home basic, and had to completely reformat and telephone authorize my old XP Home install because it screwed it up so badly... there was no way to return the system to XP without doing so, as it wipes out your XP license. I don't know why I took the chance... except for the fact that I didn't want to keep hearing from the likes of Romeo for my preference in waiting until an OS is proven before committing to it. I was still on a 95B OSR-2 box when he was anticipating XP. ;-) (Well... practically). Microsoft is even offering to refund your shipping costs to return VISTA for a full refund on their web site, and the authorization folks are working some serious overtime doing re-authorizations for XP. I figured he just cut and pasted from the XP , Windows ME, 98 and 95 software releases :-) ME *was* the perfect nightmare -- less than 6 months on retail shelves (a little longer in OEM assembled boxes)... that is, UNTIL the coming of VISTA. Who knows what's in store here.... but if you doubt my questioning, just subscribe to those groups for a few weeks and you will wonder why they bothered releasing it at all. There aren't just quirks here, there are major screw-ups... especially with DRM, driver availability, and the blocking of certain software. Just as I did with XP.... I'll recommend a long proving period for Vista, unless you go brand new, all the way. Reminds me of the Apple/Mac's 'never-ending' upgrade path for both hdwr and sftwr. DM |
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:58:09 -0600, Romeo Rondeau
wrote: (It would be good to avoid answers from people who don't KNOW, or who just want to rant against Microsoft :-) This might be some help... http://rainrecording.co.uk/vista/performance Very interesting, but it doesn't address my actual question :-) It doesn't? They tested the same software on many platforms (so they obviously work), and as a bonus there are benchmarks. Maybe my question should have been clearer. I'm interested in differences between the different versions of Vista. The site mentioned addresses other issues. |
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Laurence Payne wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:23:39 GMT, Romeo Rondeau wrote: The new laptop will probably be a "desktop replacement" running Vista. I need Offline Files, so it has to be Vista Business or Vista Ultimate. This won't be primarily a music machine, but I'd like to be able to plug in a Fireface and do occasional location recording. Vista Business lacks some media programs. Does it also lack any underlying audio functionality? (It would be good to avoid answers from people who don't KNOW, or who just want to rant against Microsoft :-) This might be some help... http://rainrecording.co.uk/vista/performance Very interesting, but it doesn't address my actual question :-) It doesn't? They tested the same software on many platforms (so they obviously work), and as a bonus there are benchmarks. |
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Laurence Payne wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:44:13 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)" /Odm wrote: The new laptop will probably be a "desktop replacement" running Vista. I need Offline Files, so it has to be Vista Business or Vista Ultimate. This won't be primarily a music machine, but I'd like to be able to plug in a Fireface and do occasional location recording. Vista Business lacks some media programs. Does it also lack any underlying audio functionality? (It would be good to avoid answers from people who don't KNOW, or who just want to rant against Microsoft :-) It's a completely ****ed OS. I hope you didn't "upgrade"... that's the only way your hardware will be guaranteed function. I wish you luck and will be looking for your progress reports. Now, David, I DID ask nicely if we could hold the rants just for once :-) I figured he just cut and pasted from the XP , Windows ME, 98 and 95 software releases :-) |
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"Scott Dorsey" posted from a shell account:
I believe that is the primary problem with Vista: it does not lack any functionality. Good one. I guess you are also annoyed that your car came with a radio.... /Preben Friis |
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Let's see how quickly we can change this into a completely different
thread. "Scott Dorsey" posted from a shell account: I believe that is the primary problem with Vista: it does not lack any functionality. On Mar 23, 5:08 pm, "Preben Friis" wrote: Good one. I guess you are also annoyed that your car came with a radio.... Well, if my car came without a radio but with a reasonable way to install one, I'd like to have my choice of audio systems. I suspect that Scott would, too. But the way they build cars nowadays, anything other than a factory installation is very expensive because it's difficult to do. My previous car didn't have a CD player. I looked into adding one but the shop told me that there just was no way to connect one other than to install one of those multi-disk players that lives in the trunk and gets the audio into the radio by modulating a transmitter inserted into the antenna lead. I was going to do that, but there was no sensible place to mount the remote control for the player. |
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Preben Friis wrote:
"Scott Dorsey" posted from a shell account: I believe that is the primary problem with Vista: it does not lack any functionality. Good one. I guess you are also annoyed that your car came with a radio.... My car DIDN'T come with a radio! Or air conditioning for that matter. But tell BMW today that you want a car with crank-up windows and no power steering assist and they laugh at you. Mercedes doesn't even want to sell you a standard transmission.... we are in a world where feeping creaturitis is destroying everything. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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"Mike Rivers" wrote in message oups.com... Let's see how quickly we can change this into a completely different thread. I'll play ... "Scott Dorsey" posted from a shell account: I believe that is the primary problem with Vista: it does not lack any functionality. My previous car didn't have a CD player. I looked into adding one but the shop told me that there just was no way to connect one other than to install one of those multi-disk players that lives in the trunk and gets the audio into the radio by modulating a transmitter inserted into the antenna lead. I was going to do that, but there was no sensible place to mount the remote control for the player. So your car lacked "interfaces" for adding new stuff. That is actually the opposite of what Scott complained about in Vista. The reason it does not lack any functionality is, that there are next to no limitations for what you can add. This of cause makes it very complex and bulky, but then again if you want lightweight you stick with a 16 MHz machine running an OS from the seventies - but then you do not expect that you can use it for playing CD's. /Preben Friis |
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Romeo Rondeau wrote:
So your car lacked "interfaces" for adding new stuff. That is actually the opposite of what Scott complained about in Vista. The reason it does not lack any functionality is, that there are next to no limitations for what you can add. This of cause makes it very complex and bulky, but then again if you want lightweight you stick with a 16 MHz machine running an OS from the seventies - but then you do not expect that you can use it for playing CD's. There's always Linux *smirk* I'm using it here for lots of things, but the real issues with Linux center around the documentation being very poor and inconsistent. If I want a piece of software for a Solaris machine or want to know something about a Solaris utility, there is a very clear path to go to the manuals, and I know I can install a package compiled for an older version and it will probably be fine on a newer version. This is sadly not the case for Linux. Most of the major Linux distributions, also, are now suffering from the feeping creaturitis that drives me up the wall with Windows. Everything and the kitchen sink comes with typical distributions, most of which is turned on and needs to be actively disabled to save CPU. And don't even get me talking about Mac OS X, which is mostly a good thing, mostly well-documented, and very consistent, but which doesn't have package management. Most Unix systems have had package management since the early nineties, and it makes it FAR easier to install and deinstall things. I'm sticking with the 4.2 BSD box for a little while longer... --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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I bought VISTA Home basic, and had to completely reformat and telephone authorize my old XP Home install because it screwed it up so badly... there was no way to return the system to XP without doing so, as it wipes out your XP license. I don't know why I took the chance... except for the fact that I didn't want to keep hearing from the likes of Romeo for my preference in waiting until an OS is proven before committing to it. I was still on a 95B OSR-2 box when he was anticipating XP. ;-) (Well... practically). You obviously haven't been reading my posts concerning Vista. :-) |
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Laurence Payne wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:58:09 -0600, Romeo Rondeau wrote: (It would be good to avoid answers from people who don't KNOW, or who just want to rant against Microsoft :-) This might be some help... http://rainrecording.co.uk/vista/performance Very interesting, but it doesn't address my actual question :-) It doesn't? They tested the same software on many platforms (so they obviously work), and as a bonus there are benchmarks. Maybe my question should have been clearer. I'm interested in differences between the different versions of Vista. The site mentioned addresses other issues. Ahh... My bad :-) |
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Scott Dorsey wrote:
Preben Friis wrote: "Scott Dorsey" posted from a shell account: I believe that is the primary problem with Vista: it does not lack any functionality. Good one. I guess you are also annoyed that your car came with a radio.... My car DIDN'T come with a radio! Or air conditioning for that matter. But tell BMW today that you want a car with crank-up windows and no power steering assist and they laugh at you. Mercedes doesn't even want to sell you a standard transmission.... we are in a world where feeping creaturitis is destroying everything. You missed your calling, Scott... you should write country songs :-) Actually, I must agree here... damn, I'm getting old... |
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So your car lacked "interfaces" for adding new stuff. That is actually the opposite of what Scott complained about in Vista. The reason it does not lack any functionality is, that there are next to no limitations for what you can add. This of cause makes it very complex and bulky, but then again if you want lightweight you stick with a 16 MHz machine running an OS from the seventies - but then you do not expect that you can use it for playing CD's. There's always Linux *smirk* |
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:49:34 +0100, "Preben Friis"
wrote: The thing that is missing from the "Business" edition is the Windows Media Center Programs - the underlying audio functionality is the same as in the other Vista editions. That's good to hear. Serious users would of course install specialist programs making the Media Centre stuff irrelevant. |
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:50:48 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)"
/Odm wrote: ME *was* the perfect nightmare -- less than 6 months on retail shelves (a little longer in OEM assembled boxes)... that is, UNTIL the coming of VISTA. Who knows what's in store here.... but if you doubt my questioning, just subscribe to those groups for a few weeks and you will wonder why they bothered releasing it at all. There aren't just quirks here, there are major screw-ups... especially with DRM, driver availability, and the blocking of certain software. OK. Well, in a week or two I'll be able to confirm, or otherwise. |
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 11:28:32 +0000, Laurence Payne
lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote: The new laptop will probably be a "desktop replacement" running Vista. I need Offline Files, so it has to be Vista Business or Vista Ultimate. This won't be primarily a music machine, but I'd like to be able to plug in a Fireface and do occasional location recording. Vista Business lacks some media programs. Does it also lack any underlying audio functionality? (It would be good to avoid answers from people who don't KNOW, or who just want to rant against Microsoft :-) I won't rant, but I'll give you my learned opinion. If you want to go portable and record bunches of tracks (Cubase, knowing you), the Fireface and Vista may not overcome the limited write bandwidth of your internal hard drive. Once you ramp up to 24/96 and beyond, your HDD will puke on you. I can understand the desirable portability of a laptop. It's awesome. And if you're just capturing 4 or 5 tracks at 24/96, it'll probably be fine. But if you want to charge out there with your Fireface and a battalion of microphones, you're going to need a more robust solution. If it must be Cubase on a PC, I'd recommend you build a micro ATX form factor PC with a fast striped RAID array for scratch disk and lug around an LCD monitor KB and mouse. Getting one of the desktop computer straps the gamers use might make portability a bit easier. See? I didn't even mention how Vista is still too early to implement for people who have niche applications or really need reliability. - TR |
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"Romeo Rondeau" wrote in message . net... I bought VISTA Home basic, and had to completely reformat and telephone authorize my old XP Home install because it screwed it up so badly... there was no way to return the system to XP without doing so, as it wipes out your XP license. I don't know why I took the chance... except for the fact that I didn't want to keep hearing from the likes of Romeo for my preference in waiting until an OS is proven before committing to it. I was still on a 95B OSR-2 box when he was anticipating XP. ;-) (Well... practically). You obviously haven't been reading my posts concerning Vista. :-) You're right.... I've missed a lot lately. http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/softwar...9274261,00.htm |
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:56:14 -0800, VainGlorious
wrote: If you want to go portable and record bunches of tracks (Cubase, knowing you), the Fireface and Vista may not overcome the limited write bandwidth of your internal hard drive. Once you ramp up to 24/96 and beyond, your HDD will puke on you. I can understand the desirable portability of a laptop. It's awesome. And if you're just capturing 4 or 5 tracks at 24/96, it'll probably be fine. But if you want to charge out there with your Fireface and a battalion of microphones, you're going to need a more robust solution. If it must be Cubase on a PC, I'd recommend you build a micro ATX form factor PC with a fast striped RAID array for scratch disk and lug around an LCD monitor KB and mouse. Getting one of the desktop computer straps the gamers use might make portability a bit easier. Yeah, probably Cubase. Maybe Wavelab. I don't need any editing or mixing features while location recording. That gets done on the big machine when I get home, which is staying on Windows XP for now. But I'm not new to this! As far as disk performance goes, I don't imagine the new machine will be LESS efficient than any of the laptops I've done this on already. I find 24/44.1 perfectly adequate, and can get all the tracks I need This new laptop has several purposes. It's being bought because my partner's machine has died. The screen went, so she used an external monitor. Now the power supply has broken. Enough. She gets my present laptop. I'm getting a nice new "desktop replacement" with a 17" screen. Partly purely as a personal indulgence. And why not? :-) It's going to be Vista because that's where we're heading, like it or not, and I need to learn Vista - music work isn't exactly *increasing* and computer support is a nice little earner :-) |
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On Mar 24, 5:05 am, Laurence Payne lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom
wrote: On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:56:14 -0800, VainGlorious wrote: If you want to go portable and record bunches of tracks (Cubase, knowing you), the Fireface and Vista may not overcome the limited write bandwidth of your internal hard drive. Once you ramp up to 24/96 and beyond, your HDD will puke on you. snip Vista because that's where we're heading, like it or not, and I need to learn Vista - music work isn't exactly *increasing* and computer support is a nice little earner :-) Wow, lot of posts in a day. The recording only had one glitch, the organist resigned, so the recording was more dialogue than music, until I shut it down. No functionallity problems at 16/44.1 It worked for what I was doing, but it was analogue in so there were no hardware driver issues to deal with, and Audacity appears to be Microsoft compliant since the files were saved and replayed. FWIWYMMV |
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"Preben Friis" wrote in
. dk: So your car lacked "interfaces" for adding new stuff. That is actually the opposite of what Scott complained about in Vista. The reason it does not lack any functionality is, that there are next to no limitations for what you can add. Ya think? Just wait until the DRM rises up and bites you in the . . . . |
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 13:21:20 GMT, Bruce wrote:
So your car lacked "interfaces" for adding new stuff. That is actually the opposite of what Scott complained about in Vista. The reason it does not lack any functionality is, that there are next to no limitations for what you can add. Ya think? Just wait until the DRM rises up and bites you in the . . . . Have we actual reports of this happening, in a way that affects self-recorded material? |
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"Laurence Payne" lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote in message
... Ya think? Just wait until the DRM rises up and bites you in the . . . . Have we actual reports of this happening, in a way that affects self-recorded material? Self recorded material does not contain DRM protection, so I can't think why it should ever happen. Don't blame Microsoft for DRM. Blame the crowd that pirates other peoples material. Without them, there wouldn't be any DRM. Why would anyone involved in music production complain that others can not freely copy and distribute their work? /Preben Friis |
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Bruce wrote:
"Preben Friis" wrote in .dk: So your car lacked "interfaces" for adding new stuff. That is actually the opposite of what Scott complained about in Vista. The reason it does not lack any functionality is, that there are next to no limitations for what you can add. Ya think? Just wait until the DRM rises up and bites you in the . . . . Nahh, within six months some teenager in Russia will issue a patch to disable the whole DRM system. Just watch. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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vista on laptop
Preben Friis wrote:
"Laurence Payne" lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote in message ... Ya think? Just wait until the DRM rises up and bites you in the . . . . Have we actual reports of this happening, in a way that affects self-recorded material? Self recorded material does not contain DRM protection, so I can't think why it should ever happen. Don't blame Microsoft for DRM. Blame the crowd that pirates other peoples material. Without them, there wouldn't be any DRM. Why would anyone involved in music production complain that others can not freely copy and distribute their work? When your paycheck comes from people buying your product? |
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