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amplification for headphone-only scenario
I am begining to build my first entry hi-fi setup; however, due to
monetary and isolation concerns, I am opting for the moment for high-quality headphones over a speaker system. Components will include SACD and DVD-A players (even though headphones are not exactly conducive to multi-channel audio) and I want to maximize the additional resolution and transparency that these formats can offer. My dillema is in deciding - on a very limited budget (about $1000) - how to best incorperate amplification. I was origonally looking at integrated amplifiers, but I do not need the power output of most integrated amps, and even the most entry level amplifiers of any quality are tough on my wallet. I am currently looking at dedicated headphone amplifiers (eg the Creek OBH21se) but wonder if this gives me enough control. Do I also need a pre-amp or can I go straight from the player to the amp to the phones? Should I consider a passive preamp with the headphones amp so that I have more control without killing my budget? I am not looking for *specific components* (which is why I have not detailed my current equiptment) but would like to know how I can get the most bang-for buck headphone-only amplification for around $800 - $1000. Thanks. |
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amplification for headphone-only scenario
Most current preamps are line-level and offer only input switching,
volume and balance controls, in addition to a little gain on the active ones. There is nothing significant to be gained in your application by using one instead of or in addition to a decent headphone amp. Your setup could consist of a universal player, a headphone amp and the phones. It's a start. Save your money for a multichannel preamp/system bye and bye. Kal On 13 Jun 2004 15:41:49 -0700, (Jordan) wrote: I am begining to build my first entry hi-fi setup; however, due to monetary and isolation concerns, I am opting for the moment for high-quality headphones over a speaker system. Components will include SACD and DVD-A players (even though headphones are not exactly conducive to multi-channel audio) and I want to maximize the additional resolution and transparency that these formats can offer. My dillema is in deciding - on a very limited budget (about $1000) - how to best incorperate amplification. I was origonally looking at integrated amplifiers, but I do not need the power output of most integrated amps, and even the most entry level amplifiers of any quality are tough on my wallet. I am currently looking at dedicated headphone amplifiers (eg the Creek OBH21se) but wonder if this gives me enough control. Do I also need a pre-amp or can I go straight from the player to the amp to the phones? Should I consider a passive preamp with the headphones amp so that I have more control without killing my budget? I am not looking for *specific components* (which is why I have not detailed my current equiptment) but would like to know how I can get the most bang-for buck headphone-only amplification for around $800 - $1000. Thanks. |
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amplification for headphone-only scenario
Most current preamps are line-level and offer only input switching,
volume and balance controls, in addition to a little gain on the active ones. There is nothing significant to be gained in your application by using one instead of or in addition to a decent headphone amp. Your setup could consist of a universal player, a headphone amp and the phones. It's a start. Save your money for a multichannel preamp/system bye and bye. Kal On 13 Jun 2004 15:41:49 -0700, (Jordan) wrote: I am begining to build my first entry hi-fi setup; however, due to monetary and isolation concerns, I am opting for the moment for high-quality headphones over a speaker system. Components will include SACD and DVD-A players (even though headphones are not exactly conducive to multi-channel audio) and I want to maximize the additional resolution and transparency that these formats can offer. My dillema is in deciding - on a very limited budget (about $1000) - how to best incorperate amplification. I was origonally looking at integrated amplifiers, but I do not need the power output of most integrated amps, and even the most entry level amplifiers of any quality are tough on my wallet. I am currently looking at dedicated headphone amplifiers (eg the Creek OBH21se) but wonder if this gives me enough control. Do I also need a pre-amp or can I go straight from the player to the amp to the phones? Should I consider a passive preamp with the headphones amp so that I have more control without killing my budget? I am not looking for *specific components* (which is why I have not detailed my current equiptment) but would like to know how I can get the most bang-for buck headphone-only amplification for around $800 - $1000. Thanks. |
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amplification for headphone-only scenario
Many poor audiphiles do just this since building a top quality
sounding system with headphones can be MUCH cheaper than doing it with speakers. In a sense, a headpone amp is basically a preamp with a more robust output. In fact, some headphone amps are configured to be usable as preamps as well. If you haven't already checked them out, the following sites will provide you with more information on the subject than you can read in an afternoon :-) http://www.head-fi.org http://headwize.com - Jeff Jordan wrote: I am begining to build my first entry hi-fi setup; however, due to monetary and isolation concerns, I am opting for the moment for high-quality headphones over a speaker system. Components will include SACD and DVD-A players (even though headphones are not exactly conducive to multi-channel audio) and I want to maximize the additional resolution and transparency that these formats can offer. My dillema is in deciding - on a very limited budget (about $1000) - how to best incorperate amplification. I was origonally looking at integrated amplifiers, but I do not need the power output of most integrated amps, and even the most entry level amplifiers of any quality are tough on my wallet. I am currently looking at dedicated headphone amplifiers (eg the Creek OBH21se) but wonder if this gives me enough control. Do I also need a pre-amp or can I go straight from the player to the amp to the phones? Should I consider a passive preamp with the headphones amp so that I have more control without killing my budget? I am not looking for *specific components* (which is why I have not detailed my current equiptment) but would like to know how I can get the most bang-for buck headphone-only amplification for around $800 - $1000. Thanks. |
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amplification for headphone-only scenario
Many poor audiphiles do just this since building a top quality
sounding system with headphones can be MUCH cheaper than doing it with speakers. In a sense, a headpone amp is basically a preamp with a more robust output. In fact, some headphone amps are configured to be usable as preamps as well. If you haven't already checked them out, the following sites will provide you with more information on the subject than you can read in an afternoon :-) http://www.head-fi.org http://headwize.com - Jeff Jordan wrote: I am begining to build my first entry hi-fi setup; however, due to monetary and isolation concerns, I am opting for the moment for high-quality headphones over a speaker system. Components will include SACD and DVD-A players (even though headphones are not exactly conducive to multi-channel audio) and I want to maximize the additional resolution and transparency that these formats can offer. My dillema is in deciding - on a very limited budget (about $1000) - how to best incorperate amplification. I was origonally looking at integrated amplifiers, but I do not need the power output of most integrated amps, and even the most entry level amplifiers of any quality are tough on my wallet. I am currently looking at dedicated headphone amplifiers (eg the Creek OBH21se) but wonder if this gives me enough control. Do I also need a pre-amp or can I go straight from the player to the amp to the phones? Should I consider a passive preamp with the headphones amp so that I have more control without killing my budget? I am not looking for *specific components* (which is why I have not detailed my current equiptment) but would like to know how I can get the most bang-for buck headphone-only amplification for around $800 - $1000. Thanks. |
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amplification for headphone-only scenario
Many poor audiphiles do just this since building a top quality
sounding system with headphones can be MUCH cheaper than doing it with speakers. In a sense, a headpone amp is basically a preamp with a more robust output. In fact, some headphone amps are configured to be usable as preamps as well. If you haven't already checked them out, the following sites will provide you with more information on the subject than you can read in an afternoon :-) http://www.head-fi.org http://headwize.com - Jeff Jordan wrote: I am begining to build my first entry hi-fi setup; however, due to monetary and isolation concerns, I am opting for the moment for high-quality headphones over a speaker system. Components will include SACD and DVD-A players (even though headphones are not exactly conducive to multi-channel audio) and I want to maximize the additional resolution and transparency that these formats can offer. My dillema is in deciding - on a very limited budget (about $1000) - how to best incorperate amplification. I was origonally looking at integrated amplifiers, but I do not need the power output of most integrated amps, and even the most entry level amplifiers of any quality are tough on my wallet. I am currently looking at dedicated headphone amplifiers (eg the Creek OBH21se) but wonder if this gives me enough control. Do I also need a pre-amp or can I go straight from the player to the amp to the phones? Should I consider a passive preamp with the headphones amp so that I have more control without killing my budget? I am not looking for *specific components* (which is why I have not detailed my current equiptment) but would like to know how I can get the most bang-for buck headphone-only amplification for around $800 - $1000. Thanks. |
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amplification for headphone-only scenario
Jordan wrote: I am begining to build my first entry hi-fi setup; however, due to monetary and isolation concerns, I am opting for the moment for high-quality headphones over a speaker system. Components will include SACD and DVD-A players (even though headphones are not exactly conducive to multi-channel audio) and I want to maximize the additional resolution and transparency that these formats can offer. How's this? Adcom SLC-505 passive pre-amp Benchmark DAC-1 Pioneer DV-563A multi-format player I have all three and can recommend them all. -- Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912 |
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amplification for headphone-only scenario
Jordan wrote: I am begining to build my first entry hi-fi setup; however, due to monetary and isolation concerns, I am opting for the moment for high-quality headphones over a speaker system. Components will include SACD and DVD-A players (even though headphones are not exactly conducive to multi-channel audio) and I want to maximize the additional resolution and transparency that these formats can offer. How's this? Adcom SLC-505 passive pre-amp Benchmark DAC-1 Pioneer DV-563A multi-format player I have all three and can recommend them all. -- Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912 |
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amplification for headphone-only scenario
Jordan wrote: I am begining to build my first entry hi-fi setup; however, due to monetary and isolation concerns, I am opting for the moment for high-quality headphones over a speaker system. Components will include SACD and DVD-A players (even though headphones are not exactly conducive to multi-channel audio) and I want to maximize the additional resolution and transparency that these formats can offer. How's this? Adcom SLC-505 passive pre-amp Benchmark DAC-1 Pioneer DV-563A multi-format player I have all three and can recommend them all. -- Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912 |
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amplification for headphone-only scenario
for those of you who are interested, I have decided on a package by
acousticsounds.com included the highly rated musical fidelity x-can v3 headphone tube-amp as well as sennheiser HD650's plus an audio quest interconnect all for about $870. I have also raised my budget to $1500 (over $1000) so I have decided to aduition Panasonic's DV47-Ai, which lists at $1200, but can be found street for a little over $500. Thanks to all for your suggestions/ input. Your comments have saved me a good deal of money! |
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amplification for headphone-only scenario
for those of you who are interested, I have decided on a package by
acousticsounds.com included the highly rated musical fidelity x-can v3 headphone tube-amp as well as sennheiser HD650's plus an audio quest interconnect all for about $870. I have also raised my budget to $1500 (over $1000) so I have decided to aduition Panasonic's DV47-Ai, which lists at $1200, but can be found street for a little over $500. Thanks to all for your suggestions/ input. Your comments have saved me a good deal of money! |
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amplification for headphone-only scenario
for those of you who are interested, I have decided on a package by
acousticsounds.com included the highly rated musical fidelity x-can v3 headphone tube-amp as well as sennheiser HD650's plus an audio quest interconnect all for about $870. I have also raised my budget to $1500 (over $1000) so I have decided to aduition Panasonic's DV47-Ai, which lists at $1200, but can be found street for a little over $500. Thanks to all for your suggestions/ input. Your comments have saved me a good deal of money! |
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amplification for headphone-only scenario
Kalman Rubinson wrote:
How's this? Adcom SLC-505 passive pre-amp Benchmark DAC-1 Pioneer DV-563A multi-format player I have all three and can recommend them all. I know but why does he need the Adcom? You're right. I was thinking of analog inputs and driving an amp. -- Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912 |
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amplification for headphone-only scenario
Kalman Rubinson wrote:
How's this? Adcom SLC-505 passive pre-amp Benchmark DAC-1 Pioneer DV-563A multi-format player I have all three and can recommend them all. I know but why does he need the Adcom? You're right. I was thinking of analog inputs and driving an amp. -- Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912 |
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amplification for headphone-only scenario
Kalman Rubinson wrote:
How's this? Adcom SLC-505 passive pre-amp Benchmark DAC-1 Pioneer DV-563A multi-format player I have all three and can recommend them all. I know but why does he need the Adcom? You're right. I was thinking of analog inputs and driving an amp. -- Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912 |
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