Anyone compared these two tube mic preamps?
Wich is better?

TIA

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Diego Krota wrote:
Anyone compared these two tube mic preamps?
Wich is better?

They are both so bad, why does it matter? Neither one is a real tube
preamp.
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Anyone compared these two tube mic preamps?
Wich is better?

I don't think either is worth buying. They use a starved-plate tube design
(25V instead of 150+V), wall-wart power supplies, very cheap means of
impedence matching, and cheap chinese tubes. You will not get an authentic
tube saturation or an effectively clean preamp. You're better off with the
mic pre's in a basic mixer. I don't consider a tube preamp worth using
unless it works effectively as a mic preamp AND as a line-level tube
saturation effect, which requires a healthy plate voltage and reasonable
power supply, neither of which those preamps have.

I'd say the best entry-level tube preamp is the DBX 386. It improves on the
mic pre's in mixers as well as offers different coloration, the 200V plate
voltage on a decent Philips tube renders a good vintage saturation, and the
built-in 24/96 a/d converter with peak limiter is a nice plus, all for under
$300 on used market. It lacks input transformers, but then so do compact
mixers. And considering it provides two extra mic channels to computer
interfaces and a decent real tube saturation stage, the price is great. But
anything less will probably do more harm than good, and there are many
solid-state models that offer a cleaner preamp.

I bought a MIC100 the other week, not because I wanted an authentic
tube preamp, but because I was in a crunch for a low cost extra
channel for a session. For $40 on a low budget album, I can't
complain. I definitely wouldn't recommend it if you are loking for a
decent preamp.

Diego Krota wrote in message ...
Anyone compared these two tube mic preamps?
Wich is better?

TIA

deharmonic wrote:

I bought a MIC100 the other week, not because I wanted an authentic
tube preamp, but because I was in a crunch for a low cost extra
channel for a session. For $40 on a low budget album, I can't
complain. I definitely wouldn't recommend it if you are loking for a
decent preamp.

I have seen tube mic preamps for 1700 Euro, discounted, so I obviously
don't expect the state of art.
My only need is to record at home my tube guitar amp with a Shure SM57.
For the same price I can get the Mic100 or the Behringer UB series mixer
5 channels. For 10 more Euro I can gat the 8 channels wich has the
"Premium mic preamp" (don't know what it is).
The fact is that I really really can't find now and ind the future any
use for a mixer, so buying one only as a mic preamp seems silly to me.
I thought that a Mic100 or similar can be a little better than the mixer
sound wise and it has the limiter too.

Am I wrong?

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Sugarite wrote:

Anyone compared these two tube mic preamps?
Wich is better?


I don't think either is worth buying. They use a starved-plate tube design
(25V instead of 150+V), wall-wart power supplies, very cheap means of
impedence matching, and cheap chinese tubes. You will not get an authentic
tube saturation or an effectively clean preamp. You're better off with the
mic pre's in a basic mixer. I don't consider a tube preamp worth using
unless it works effectively as a mic preamp AND as a line-level tube
saturation effect, which requires a healthy plate voltage and reasonable
power supply, neither of which those preamps have.

I'd say the best entry-level tube preamp is the DBX 386.

Apart the cost, it has features I really don't need.

The DBX Mini Preamp is the same as Mic100 and Tube MP or a notch higner?

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