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I'm making a new guitar, and I'd like some opinions on the following
ideas: 1.) For my bridge pickup I would like a 2 different pickups, combined so they act as a humbucker, or individually as chosen by switches. Is this feasible, and more importantly, worth it? 2.) I have an idea of making the jack a TRS jack, and wiring the guitar as a balanced circuit (shielding for ground). Would this significantly reduce hum over simply shielding the pickup cavity(ies)? Another possibility is to build a phantom-powerable DI box in with an XLR jack somewhere convenient - for recording only. 3.) Is it worth it to have every single possible combination (or nearly every) of pickups available? I'm already planning for a rather mammoth design, but I'm thinking of putting up to around 8 switches in for various purposes. 4.) Any opinions on: i.) Integrated preamps (not active pickups, but Seymour-Duncan/ EMG onboard pre's) ii.) The N-Tune Guitar Tuner (http://www.stewmac.com/shop/ Electronics,_pickups/Electronic_tuners/N- Tune_Onboard_Guitar_Tuner.html) iii.) Black Ice Overdrive (http://www.stewmac.com/shop/ Electronics,_pickups/Components:_Black_Ice_overdrive.html) FYI, the pickups I want to use are the following: Neck: S-D Cool Rails Middle: S-D Li'l Screaming Demon Bridge: Humbucker with Lace Gold Sensor in top, S-D Quarter Pound Flat in bottom. |
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On Mar 10, 4:26*pm, gjsmo wrote:
I'm making a new guitar, and I'd like some opinions on the following ideas: 1.) For my bridge pickup I would like a 2 different pickups, combined so they act as a humbucker, or individually as chosen by switches. Is this feasible, and more importantly, worth it? I know it's been done; a few custom guitars have this setup, and I believe a couple of production guitars as well. Whether it's worth it, I don't know, since I haven't played one of those guitars, but it's definitely feasible. 2.) I have an idea of making the jack a TRS jack, and wiring the guitar as a balanced circuit (shielding for ground). Would this significantly reduce hum over simply shielding the pickup cavity(ies)? You could try it; my guess is it won't make a lot of difference, since amp inputs aren't balanced. Another possibility is to build a phantom-powerable DI box in with an XLR jack somewhere convenient - for recording only. Might be simpler, and make for a less bulky instrument, to put that into a stomp box and run a SHORT cord from the guitar. 3.) Is it worth it to have every single possible combination (or nearly every) of pickups available? I'm already planning for a rather mammoth design, but I'm thinking of putting up to around 8 switches in for various purposes. Depends, *You* have to live with it as a player. If it works for you, fine. If not, you can decide which levels of flexibility are worth sacrificing for simplicity. 4.) Any opinions on: * * *i.) Integrated preamps (not active pickups, but Seymour-Duncan/ EMG onboard pre's) * * *ii.) The N-Tune Guitar Tuner (http://www.stewmac.com/shop/ Electronics,_pickups/Electronic_tuners/N- Tune_Onboard_Guitar_Tuner.html) * * *iii.) Black Ice Overdrive (http://www.stewmac.com/shop/ Haven't tried 'em. Oh, what style of guitar is this? Strat-ish? Peace, Paul |
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On Mar 10, 5:47*pm, PStamler wrote:
On Mar 10, 4:26*pm, gjsmo wrote: I'm making a new guitar, and I'd like some opinions on the following ideas: 1.) For my bridge pickup I would like a 2 different pickups, combined so they act as a humbucker, or individually as chosen by switches. Is this feasible, and more importantly, worth it? I know it's been done; a few custom guitars have this setup, and I believe a couple of production guitars as well. Whether it's worth it, I don't know, since I haven't played one of those guitars, but it's definitely feasible. 2.) I have an idea of making the jack a TRS jack, and wiring the guitar as a balanced circuit (shielding for ground). Would this significantly reduce hum over simply shielding the pickup cavity(ies)? You could try it; my guess is it won't make a lot of difference, since amp inputs aren't balanced. Another possibility is to build a phantom-powerable DI box in with an XLR jack somewhere convenient - for recording only. Might be simpler, and make for a less bulky instrument, to put that into a stomp box and run a SHORT cord from the guitar. 3.) Is it worth it to have every single possible combination (or nearly every) of pickups available? I'm already planning for a rather mammoth design, but I'm thinking of putting up to around 8 switches in for various purposes. Depends, *You* have to live with it as a player. If it works for you, fine. If not, you can decide which levels of flexibility are worth sacrificing for simplicity. 4.) Any opinions on: * * *i.) Integrated preamps (not active pickups, but Seymour-Duncan/ EMG onboard pre's) * * *ii.) The N-Tune Guitar Tuner (http://www.stewmac.com/shop/ Electronics,_pickups/Electronic_tuners/N- Tune_Onboard_Guitar_Tuner.html) * * *iii.) Black Ice Overdrive (http://www.stewmac.com/shop/ Haven't tried 'em. Oh, what style of guitar is this? Strat-ish? Peace, Paul VERY Strat-ish. Other than the HSS pickups and massive number of switches, it's probably going to be a Strat copy. |
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On Mar 10, 4:26*pm, gjsmo wrote:
I'm making a new guitar, and I'd like some opinions on the following ideas: 1.) For my bridge pickup I would like a 2 different pickups, combined so they act as a humbucker, or individually as chosen by switches. Is this feasible, and more importantly, worth it? Yes, Fender came up woth a more versatile switching system in '79 for "The Strat", the Walnut Strat and other limited edition Strats that were sometimes refered to as Super Strats. Choices included the middle and bridge pickups in series (humbucking) as well as the usual parallel (humbucking) and individual selections. A similar system is still in use and now called the "S-1" switching system. I think this or a variation on it would do exactly what you want. B.C. Rich and a few others also had similar single/dual switching setups. 2.) I have an idea of making the jack a TRS jack, and wiring the guitar as a balanced circuit (shielding for ground). Would this significantly reduce hum over simply shielding the pickup cavity(ies)? Another possibility is to build a phantom-powerable DI box in with an XLR jack somewhere convenient - for recording only. There were examples of balanced out guitars such as the Les Paul Recording and Alembic. This can help a bit with hum but a non-humbucking single coil is still susceptable to any induced field. 3.) Is it worth it to have every single possible combination (or nearly every) of pickups available? I'm already planning for a rather mammoth design, but I'm thinking of putting up to around 8 switches in for various purposes. Sure, ever seen a Dan Armstrong guitar ? It's a way different take on what you suggest. 4.) Any opinions on: * * *i.) Integrated preamps (not active pickups, but Seymour-Duncan/ EMG onboard pre's) Nothing you can't do with pedals. * * *ii.) The N-Tune Guitar Tuner (http://www.stewmac.com/shop/ Electronics,_pickups/Electronic_tuners/N- Tune_Onboard_Guitar_Tuner.html) A friend of mine developed such a system. I hope he's making money off it. FYI, the pickups I want to use are the following: Neck: S-D Cool Rails Middle: S-D Li'l Screaming Demon Bridge: Humbucker with Lace Gold Sensor in top, S-D Quarter Pound Flat in bottom. Seriously, look at the schem for the S1 or SuperStrat and go for it. rd |
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On 3/10/2011 5:26 PM, gjsmo wrote:
I'm making a new guitar, and I'd like some opinions on the following ideas: 1.) For my bridge pickup I would like a 2 different pickups, combined so they act as a humbucker, or individually as chosen by switches. Is this feasible, and more importantly, worth it? It's been done, both as a custom modification and commercially. See: http://www.coil-guitars.com/#/electronics/ and http://gamechanger.music-man.com/ 2.) I have an idea of making the jack a TRS jack, and wiring the guitar as a balanced circuit (shielding for ground). Would this significantly reduce hum over simply shielding the pickup cavity(ies)? Another possibility is to build a phantom-powerable DI box in with an XLR jack somewhere convenient - for recording only. The common mode rejection with a balanced connection actually comes from the input (in this case the amplifier), Balancing the output of the guitar is only half the job. You could build a DI into the guitar, or you could just do what Chet Atkins and Les Paul did some 40-50 years ago and make low impedance pickups wired to XLR connectors. It took a special amplifier that had an input stage like a mic preamp. The Les Paul Recording model guitar and companion amplifier was a commercial product for a while. It never really took off, but it certainly was a good idea. 3.) Is it worth it to have every single possible combination (or nearly every) of pickups available? I'm sure there are guitar players who would find that absolutely astounding and inspiring. You never know until you try, though. 4.) Any opinions on: No -- "Today's production equipment is IT based and cannot be operated without a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be operated without a passing knowledge of audio." - John Watkinson http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com - useful and interesting audio stuff |
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On Mar 10, 8:21*pm, RD Jones wrote:
On Mar 10, 4:26*pm, gjsmo wrote: I'm making a new guitar, and I'd like some opinions on the following ideas: 1.) For my bridge pickup I would like a 2 different pickups, combined so they act as a humbucker, or individually as chosen by switches. Is this feasible, and more importantly, worth it? Yes, Fender came up woth a more versatile switching system in '79 for "The Strat", the Walnut Strat and other limited edition Strats that were sometimes refered to as Super Strats. Choices included the middle and bridge pickups in series (humbucking) as well as the usual parallel (humbucking) and individual selections. A similar system is still in use and now called the "S-1" switching system. I think this or a variation on it would do exactly what you want. B.C. Rich and a few others also had similar single/dual switching setups. The Super Strat isn't what I'm thinking of - bear in mind the pickup layout is actually HHH, though it'll look (hopefully) like HSS. S1 looks interesting. I'd need extra mods though to account for my special "humbucker". 2.) I have an idea of making the jack a TRS jack, and wiring the guitar as a balanced circuit (shielding for ground). Would this significantly reduce hum over simply shielding the pickup cavity(ies)? Another possibility is to build a phantom-powerable DI box in with an XLR jack somewhere convenient - for recording only. There were examples of balanced out guitars such as the Les Paul Recording and Alembic. This can help a bit with hum but a non-humbucking single coil is still susceptable to any induced field. 3.) Is it worth it to have every single possible combination (or nearly every) of pickups available? I'm already planning for a rather mammoth design, but I'm thinking of putting up to around 8 switches in for various purposes. Sure, ever seen a Dan Armstrong guitar ? It's a way different take on what you suggest. Also interesting, but seems a bit... tame. 4.) Any opinions on: * * *i.) Integrated preamps (not active pickups, but Seymour-Duncan/ EMG onboard pre's) Nothing you can't do with pedals. Then what's the point of active pickups? (not as challenge) * * *ii.) The N-Tune Guitar Tuner (http://www.stewmac.com/shop/ Electronics,_pickups/Electronic_tuners/N- Tune_Onboard_Guitar_Tuner.html) A friend of mine developed such a system. I hope he's making money off it. FYI, the pickups I want to use are the following: Neck: S-D Cool Rails Middle: S-D Li'l Screaming Demon Bridge: Humbucker with Lace Gold Sensor in top, S-D Quarter Pound Flat in bottom. Seriously, look at the schem for the S1 or SuperStrat and go for it. rd |
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On Mar 10, 9:09*pm, Mike Rivers wrote:
On 3/10/2011 5:26 PM, gjsmo wrote: I'm making a new guitar, and I'd like some opinions on the following ideas: 1.) For my bridge pickup I would like a 2 different pickups, combined so they act as a humbucker, or individually as chosen by switches. Is this feasible, and more importantly, worth it? It's been done, both as a custom modification and commercially. See:http://www.coil-guitars.com/#/electronics/ andhttp://gamechanger.music-man.com/ I don't see anything like this... It's two completely separate pickups combined into 1 "humbucker". The idea is to be able to get two different sounds in the bridge position with the addition of a humbucker type tone. Plus, it doesn't look like I can buy those. 2.) I have an idea of making the jack a TRS jack, and wiring the guitar as a balanced circuit (shielding for ground). Would this significantly reduce hum over simply shielding the pickup cavity(ies)? Another possibility is to build a phantom-powerable DI box in with an XLR jack somewhere convenient - for recording only. The common mode rejection with a balanced connection actually comes from the input (in this case the amplifier), Balancing the output of the guitar is only half the job. You could build a DI into the guitar, or you could just do what Chet Atkins and Les Paul did some 40-50 years ago and make low impedance pickups wired to XLR connectors. It took a special amplifier that had an input stage like a mic preamp. The Les Paul Recording model guitar and companion amplifier was a commercial product for a while. It never really took off, but it certainly was a good idea. Would it be practical to have a switchable DI to be able to hook to an amp or mixer/mic pre? 3.) Is it worth it to have every single possible combination (or nearly every) of pickups available? I'm sure there are guitar players who would find that absolutely astounding and inspiring. You never know until you try, though. A typical answer. 4.) Any opinions on: No LOL. |
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Actually, apparently you can buy the Coil stuff without the guitar.
It costs WAY too much though - $99 for their custom tone knob. I might as well wire it with silver wiring and gold-plate all the hardware. |
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On 3/10/2011 9:57 PM, david gourley wrote:
A friend did this type of thing to a Gibson SG in the 70s, and it was a god awful mess to figure out. I'm glad it wasn't mine. Still and all, you could get every conceivable combination out of it (split coils, series, parallel) from both pickups. You could mount a patchbay on the guitar, and have a collection of normal and crossover patch cables dangling from the strap. g -- "Today's production equipment is IT based and cannot be operated without a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be operated without a passing knowledge of audio." - John Watkinson http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com - useful and interesting audio stuff |
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On 3/10/2011 9:58 PM, gjsmo wrote:
I don't see anything like this... It's two completely separate pickups combined into 1 "humbucker". The idea is to be able to get two different sounds in the bridge position with the addition of a humbucker type tone. Plus, it doesn't look like I can buy those. You might not be able to afford once, but you can certainly buy one. The concept is there, it's just a matter of what pickups you mount on the guitar and how you connect them to the matrix switch. "Humbucker tone" is just added inductance. The (very simplified to give the critics something to derail this thread with) concept behind a humbucking pickup is that you have one coil with pole pieces that picks up the strings as well as external magnetic field, and another coil that picks up as closely as it can to the same external magnetic field and as little of the sting vibration as possible. When you sum those coils with opposite polarity, the hum, since it's present in both coils, is suppressed. But the inductance of the coil is either in series or in parallel with the inductance of the coil that's picking up the strings, and that can affect the tone. If you didn't need the hum suppression, you could do the same thing by switching in an inductor. Would it be practical to have a switchable DI to be able to hook to an amp or mixer/mic pre? You can bolt on anything you want, but if you're going to do that, what would the point of making it switchable? A proper DI isn't supposed to affect the basic tone coming out of the pickup(s) (admittedly, some, by some guitarists, are thought to do so), so why not simply have a conventional and a mic level, low impedance, balanced output on two connectors? This isn't an either/or thing, it's one, the other, or both (an amplifier and a DI). I'm sure there are guitar players who would find that absolutely astounding and inspiring. You never know until you try, though. A typical answer. to an unanswerable question. Watch the videos on the Music Man Game Changer web page and you'll hear heartfelt testimonials from guitarists (most of whom I've never heard of) bubbling over with enthusiasm about how it's changed the way they use their guitars. Then you read articles about guitarists who set their guitar one way, set their amplifier one way, and play all night without touching a control. Do you identify with either of those extremes? Or are you somewhere in the middle? -- "Today's production equipment is IT based and cannot be operated without a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be operated without a passing knowledge of audio." - John Watkinson http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com - useful and interesting audio stuff |
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On Mar 11, 6:38*am, Mike Rivers wrote:
On 3/10/2011 9:57 PM, david gourley wrote: A friend did this type of thing to a Gibson SG in the 70s, and it was a god awful mess to figure out. *I'm glad it wasn't mine. *Still and all, you could get every conceivable combination out of it (split coils, series, parallel) from both pickups. You could mount a patchbay on the guitar, and have a collection of normal and crossover patch cables dangling from the strap. * g -- "Today's production equipment is IT based and cannot be operated without a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be operated without a passing knowledge of audio." - John Watkinson http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com- useful and interesting audio stuff Already thought of it. That's just a bit too weird. Nope, just switches. |
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gjsmo wrote:
I'm making a new guitar, and I'd like some opinions on the following ideas: 1.) For my bridge pickup I would like a 2 different pickups, combined so they act as a humbucker, or individually as chosen by switches. Is this feasible, and more importantly, worth it? As others have pointed out, this isn't a new or rare idea. Both Fender and Gibson have done this commercially, and since your design is "...very Stratish", you may wish to take a look at Fender's version of the humbucking Strat pickups, and use switches to select single coil mode. That was offered in a Strat a while back. 2.) I have an idea of making the jack a TRS jack, and wiring the guitar as a balanced circuit (shielding for ground). Would this significantly reduce hum over simply shielding the pickup cavity(ies)? Another possibility is to build a phantom-powerable DI box in with an XLR jack somewhere convenient - for recording only. It's a good idea to sheild and ground the pickup and wiring cavities, regardless of the other choices. I have some guitars with built-in preamps, and I agree with those that suggest that the main issue in reducing hum is dealing with the single-coil pickup. It's a trade-off, and you'll have to decide whether you like the humbucking sound more than you dislike the hum of single-coil pickups. 3.) Is it worth it to have every single possible combination (or nearly every) of pickups available? I'm already planning for a rather mammoth design, but I'm thinking of putting up to around 8 switches in for various purposes. There are other factors that will affect the sound beyond the number or type of pickups used. A Strat with humbuckers does not sound like a Les Paul or SG, for example (a Les Paul doesn't sound like an SG, for that matter). Only you can decide how far you want to take things, and how beneficial the outcome was for the cost and effort involved. This sounds like it's your first try at building or modifying a guitar. If so, I'd recommend that you take some baby steps rather than an everything plus the kitchen sink approach, as you will undoubtedly learn things along the way that can save you time and money, as well as lead you in a more fruitful direction for your ultimate guitar. -- best regards, Neil |
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On Mar 10, 3:26*pm, gjsmo wrote:
I'm making a new guitar, and I'd like some opinions on the following ideas: 1.) For my bridge pickup I would like a 2 different pickups, combined so they act as a humbucker, or individually as chosen by switches. Is this feasible, and more importantly, worth it? 2.) I have an idea of making the jack a TRS jack, and wiring the guitar as a balanced circuit (shielding for ground). Would this significantly reduce hum over simply shielding the pickup cavity(ies)? Another possibility is to build a phantom-powerable DI box in with an XLR jack somewhere convenient - for recording only. 3.) Is it worth it to have every single possible combination (or nearly every) of pickups available? I'm already planning for a rather mammoth design, but I'm thinking of putting up to around 8 switches in for various purposes. 4.) Any opinions on: * * *i.) Integrated preamps (not active pickups, but Seymour-Duncan/ EMG onboard pre's) * * *ii.) The N-Tune Guitar Tuner (http://www.stewmac.com/shop/ Electronics,_pickups/Electronic_tuners/N- Tune_Onboard_Guitar_Tuner.html) * * *iii.) Black Ice Overdrive (http://www.stewmac.com/shop/ Electronics,_pickups/Components:_Black_Ice_overdrive.html) FYI, the pickups I want to use are the following: Neck: S-D Cool Rails Middle: S-D Li'l Screaming Demon Bridge: Humbucker with Lace Gold Sensor in top, S-D Quarter Pound Flat in bottom. for something really interesting check out te wiring of the Peavey T60 guitar. It used two humbuckers like a Les Paul, but the individual pickups were routed through the tone controls for a continuously variable humbucker to single coil wiring. From 1-7 the pickup was humbucker and from 7-10 one side was faded out until there was only the single coil part of the pickup was working. On top of all that, there was a "phase" switch between the neck and bridge pickups. Enough complication. Last Saturday I watched Eric Clapton in concert. I was amazed at his sound and control. He used three guitars that night, A seafoam green Stratocaster.,a brown sunburst dot-neck 335 and a Martin- Not sure of model. Totally amazing. Kudos to his sound team. I was in nosebleed seats and the sound in the MGM was absolutely crystalline at avery reasonable volume level., unlike the sound for the opening act, Los Lobos, who played too LOUD with a rumbling feedback prone bass, and distorted vocals. I really don't get the lead bass/kick drum sound. Los lobos were good musicians, but their sound ruined the act. |
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On Mar 11, 9:27*am, "Neil Gould" wrote:
gjsmo wrote: I'm making a new guitar, and I'd like some opinions on the following ideas: 1.) For my bridge pickup I would like a 2 different pickups, combined so they act as a humbucker, or individually as chosen by switches. Is this feasible, and more importantly, worth it? As others have pointed out, this isn't a new or rare idea. Both Fender and Gibson have done this commercially, and since your design is "...very Stratish", you may wish to take a look at Fender's version of the humbucking Strat pickups, and use switches to select single coil mode. That was offered in a Strat a while back. I KNOW that Fender sells HSS strats, and uses humbuckers in other guitars. Those pickups are a humbucker to begin with, just with all four wires available. They have one magnet, one housing. I'm talking about 2 completely different (ok, not entirely - but different) pickups, not already wired as a humbucker - specifically the Seymour- Duncan Quarter Pound Flat and Lace Gold Sensor. I'm just putting them right next to each other. Think of it like a 4 pickup guitar - 2 pickups in the bridge position, then single-size pickups in middle and neck. 2.) I have an idea of making the jack a TRS jack, and wiring the guitar as a balanced circuit (shielding for ground). Would this significantly reduce hum over simply shielding the pickup cavity(ies)? Another possibility is to build a phantom-powerable DI box in with an XLR jack somewhere convenient - for recording only. It's a good idea to sheild and ground the pickup and wiring cavities, regardless of the other choices. I have some guitars with built-in preamps, and I agree with those that suggest that the main issue in reducing hum is dealing with the single-coil pickup. It's a trade-off, and you'll have to decide whether you like the humbucking sound more than you dislike the hum of single-coil pickups. I'll take the hum. Does the pre-amp significantly help a shielded guitar? 3.) Is it worth it to have every single possible combination (or nearly every) of pickups available? I'm already planning for a rather mammoth design, but I'm thinking of putting up to around 8 switches in for various purposes. There are other factors that will affect the sound beyond the number or type of pickups used. A Strat with humbuckers does not sound like a Les Paul or SG, for example (a Les Paul doesn't sound like an SG, for that matter). Only you can decide how far you want to take things, and how beneficial the outcome was for the cost and effort involved. I realize this, but I'm going for Strat and superstrat a la Van Halen's Frankenstien types of tones. This sounds like it's your first try at building or modifying a guitar. If so, I'd recommend that you take some baby steps rather than an everything plus the kitchen sink approach, as you will undoubtedly learn things along the way that can save you time and money, as well as lead you in a more fruitful direction for your ultimate guitar. I've modded my current guitar (a squier) rather a lot, and I think it sounds almost as good as a typical American Strat. I'm quite capable of wiring anything (much more knowledge in electronics than being a luthier). I also figure that if I drill too many holes in the pickguard, I'll just buy a new one and start from scratch. I know what I'm doing, I just don't know when it's not worth it . -- best regards, Neil |
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gjsmo wrote:
On Mar 11, 9:27 am, "Neil Gould" wrote: gjsmo wrote: I'm making a new guitar, and I'd like some opinions on the following ideas: 1.) For my bridge pickup I would like a 2 different pickups, combined so they act as a humbucker, or individually as chosen by switches. Is this feasible, and more importantly, worth it? As others have pointed out, this isn't a new or rare idea. Both Fender and Gibson have done this commercially, and since your design is "...very Stratish", you may wish to take a look at Fender's version of the humbucking Strat pickups, and use switches to select single coil mode. That was offered in a Strat a while back. I KNOW that Fender sells HSS strats, and uses humbuckers in other guitars. Those pickups are a humbucker to begin with, just with all four wires available. They have one magnet, one housing. I'm talking about 2 completely different (ok, not entirely - but different) pickups, not already wired as a humbucker - specifically the Seymour- Duncan Quarter Pound Flat and Lace Gold Sensor. I'm just putting them right next to each other. Think of it like a 4 pickup guitar - 2 pickups in the bridge position, then single-size pickups in middle and neck. Although I wasn't referring to the HSS-style pickups, where the coils are side-by-side, I also wasn't thinking of "making your own" humbucker from two separate pickups as you described, above. It should work, but how it sounds would be anybody's guess. I don't think there is any real benefit to having separate magnets in that configuration, but, maybe you'll start a trend, who knows? It's a good idea to sheild and ground the pickup and wiring cavities, regardless of the other choices. I have some guitars with built-in preamps, and I agree with those that suggest that the main issue in reducing hum is dealing with the single-coil pickup. It's a trade-off, and you'll have to decide whether you like the humbucking sound more than you dislike the hum of single-coil pickups. I'll take the hum. Does the pre-amp significantly help a shielded guitar? A preamp just amplifies the end of the signal chain within the guitar, so the best approach is to get the quitar as quiet as possible before preamping it. That said, I did design and build a balanced preamp and parametric EQ for my Dan Armstrong -- now I call it a "Neil Armstrong" ;-) -- and it no longer hums to any significant extent, but that's an extreme mod that took several tries and about a year to get right. A pre-fab unit will likely only be unbalanced, so what goes in comes out louder. -- best regards, Neil |
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gjsmo wrote:
On Mar 11, 6:38 am, Mike Rivers wrote: On 3/10/2011 9:57 PM, david gourley wrote: A friend did this type of thing to a Gibson SG in the 70s, and it was a god awful mess to figure out. I'm glad it wasn't mine. Still and all, you could get every conceivable combination out of it (split coils, series, parallel) from both pickups. You could mount a patchbay on the guitar, and have a collection of normal and crossover patch cables dangling from the strap. g With the digital micro-miniaturization they have today, this is not as funny as one would assume. There is no reason why they couldn't put an entire studio in the side of a modern electric guitar..... |
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On 3/11/2011 9:41 PM, Bill Graham wrote:
You could mount a patchbay on the guitar With the digital micro-miniaturization they have today, this is not as funny as one would assume. There is no reason why they couldn't put an entire studio in the side of a modern electric guitar..... Yeah, but where would the drummer set up? The Coil and Music Man and anything else like that is essentially a routing matrix, which is like a patchbay with switches between every possible pair of connections instead of cables. -- "Today's production equipment is IT based and cannot be operated without a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be operated without a passing knowledge of audio." - John Watkinson http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com - useful and interesting audio stuff |
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