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Default Yellow Tops v/s Caps ???

If I have a new Yellow Top battery, is a cap really necessary? Im installing
two subs puting out about 1000 rms each. I already have a 1 farad cap, would
this one and the yellow top be sufficient? Thanks for your coments.


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In article 6UTKf.751$kp3.88@fed1read03,
"ElGalanazo" wrote:

If I have a new Yellow Top battery, is a cap really necessary? Im installing
two subs puting out about 1000 rms each. I already have a 1 farad cap, would
this one and the yellow top be sufficient? Thanks for your coments.



Drivers (subs) change electrical energy into motion, they don't output
anything electrical.

If you have the cap already, might as well make use of it.

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I Understand, but would that 1 farad cap and the yellow top be enough juice
for the 2000 watt system?? Thanks agian.

"Cyrus" wrote in message
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In article 6UTKf.751$kp3.88@fed1read03,
"ElGalanazo" wrote:

If I have a new Yellow Top battery, is a cap really necessary? Im
installing
two subs puting out about 1000 rms each. I already have a 1 farad cap,
would
this one and the yellow top be sufficient? Thanks for your coments.



Drivers (subs) change electrical energy into motion, they don't output
anything electrical.

If you have the cap already, might as well make use of it.

--
Cyrus

*coughcasaucedoprodigynetcough*




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That depends on a number of factors including the output of your alternator
and the efficiency of your amplifier.

However, that being said, assuming you are using a stock alternator, I would
want more capacitance than 1 farad. My four amplifiers total about 1200
watts RMS and I use 3 farads. That seems to work well for me (without the
caps the voltage fluctuates greatly, with the caps the voltage is
rock-solid, up to a point of course). Caps and batteries have very
different functions. Keep in mind, an Optima yellow top is still JUST a
battery. Why it is so desirable in the autosound world is because A) it has
the lowest internal resistance (when your engine is running, your battery
becomes a load, the Optima has the lowest current draw which means more
power available for your amplifiers) and B) the yellow-top is a deep-cycle
battery (it can be completely drained and recharged over and over again)
which is good for extended engine-off listening sessions. But the Optima
CANNOT deliver the instantaneous current a capacitor can deliver.

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"ElGalanazo" wrote in message
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I Understand, but would that 1 farad cap and the yellow top be enough juice
for the 2000 watt system?? Thanks agian.

"Cyrus" wrote in message
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In article 6UTKf.751$kp3.88@fed1read03,
"ElGalanazo" wrote:

If I have a new Yellow Top battery, is a cap really necessary? Im
installing
two subs puting out about 1000 rms each. I already have a 1 farad cap,
would
this one and the yellow top be sufficient? Thanks for your coments.



Drivers (subs) change electrical energy into motion, they don't output
anything electrical.

If you have the cap already, might as well make use of it.

--
Cyrus

*coughcasaucedoprodigynetcough*






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Default Yellow Tops v/s Caps ???

"ElGalanazo" wrote in
news:6UTKf.751$kp3.88@fed1read03:

If I have a new Yellow Top battery, is a cap really necessary? Im
installing two subs puting out about 1000 rms each. I already have a 1
farad cap, would this one and the yellow top be sufficient? Thanks for
your coments.



Depends on your amplifier's max (peak) wattage rating for the load you
are pushing (from the amp). The rule of thumb is 1 farad for every 1000W
of peak wattage. Since your system relies more on the alternator than
the battery I would invest in a good cap to take some of the high demand
off of the electrical system.

For my current system pushing roughly 600W RMS I use a Audiobahn
ACAP651N 12 farad digital cap, which is way more than I need. It cost me
about $240, which by comparison is a lot cheaper for the capacitance
than buying several smaller caps. Plus it has distribution blocks built
into it and adds a lot of visual style. When I upgrade my system I'm
aiming to get a Soundstream SC-20CA 20 farad digital cap. Only $280. I
think this would be the ultimate capacitor anyone would need, and it
looks stunning. That's a great deal if you ask me. Check it out.


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I think that the rule of thumb for caps is 1 farad for every 1000watts.


In article dfUKf.752$kp3.84@fed1read03, "ElGalanazo"
wrote:
I Understand, but would that 1 farad cap and the yellow top be enough juice
for the 2000 watt system?? Thanks agian.

"Cyrus" wrote in message
...
In article 6UTKf.751$kp3.88@fed1read03,
"ElGalanazo" wrote:

If I have a new Yellow Top battery, is a cap really necessary? Im
installing
two subs puting out about 1000 rms each. I already have a 1 farad cap,
would
this one and the yellow top be sufficient? Thanks for your coments.



Drivers (subs) change electrical energy into motion, they don't output
anything electrical.

If you have the cap already, might as well make use of it.

--
Cyrus

*coughcasaucedoprodigynetcough*




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I personaly use a pyle cap, I just dont think that brand name logos are worth
paying more for.

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wrote:
"ElGalanazo" wrote in
news:6UTKf.751$kp3.88@fed1read03:

If I have a new Yellow Top battery, is a cap really necessary? Im
installing two subs puting out about 1000 rms each. I already have a 1
farad cap, would this one and the yellow top be sufficient? Thanks for
your coments.



Depends on your amplifier's max (peak) wattage rating for the load you
are pushing (from the amp). The rule of thumb is 1 farad for every 1000W
of peak wattage. Since your system relies more on the alternator than
the battery I would invest in a good cap to take some of the high demand
off of the electrical system.

For my current system pushing roughly 600W RMS I use a Audiobahn
ACAP651N 12 farad digital cap, which is way more than I need. It cost me
about $240, which by comparison is a lot cheaper for the capacitance
than buying several smaller caps. Plus it has distribution blocks built
into it and adds a lot of visual style. When I upgrade my system I'm
aiming to get a Soundstream SC-20CA 20 farad digital cap. Only $280. I
think this would be the ultimate capacitor anyone would need, and it
looks stunning. That's a great deal if you ask me. Check it out.

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I have the 6 Farad model, it looks the same just not as high. It even came in
a metal carry case lol. It has a blue led readout and 2 ultra bright blue
light bars. For a truck install it's a great cap, but just too bright to have
in the back of a suv.



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(Captain Howdy) wrote in
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I personaly use a pyle cap, I just dont think that brand name logos
are worth paying more for.


I'm in total agreement with you. Pyle also makes caps like the ones I
mentioned for considerably cheaper, and some of them even have higher
capacitance ratings. Pyle PLCAP300HB for instance.

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If I did by a capacitor, it wouldn't be a Pyle of cap. Get it?
Sorry...just joking around. It's late.

Tony


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Amplifiers, Dynaudio System 360 Tri-Amped In Front and Focal 130HCs For Rear
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Tony you're not ready for a Pyle of caps, you still need to add a sub to that
8" midbass driver. Making fun of my of my pyle of caps, shame on you sir. lol

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If I did by a capacitor, it wouldn't be a Pyle of cap. Get it?
Sorry...just joking around. It's late.

Tony


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