I recently bought a an audio CD from Amazon, which plays without
problem on my car CD player, and one of my computers. However, in my
portable Sony, and two CD/DVD players attached to my home stereos,
trying to play the CD causes very large vibrations -- two of them will
still play the CD, but the other one won't. I've tried hundreds of
other CD's in them without any problem. I would suspect that the CD
is either warped or mispunched. However, when I made the mistake of
telling Amazon that it would play in my car player, they replied that
they wouldn't refund since they don't cover CD incompatibity. I think
that that's BS. Opinions?

Victor

"Victor Miller" wrote in message
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I recently bought a an audio CD from Amazon, which plays without
problem on my car CD player, and one of my computers. However, in my
portable Sony, and two CD/DVD players attached to my home stereos,
trying to play the CD causes very large vibrations -- two of them will
still play the CD, but the other one won't. I've tried hundreds of
other CD's in them without any problem. I would suspect that the CD
is either warped or mispunched. However, when I made the mistake of
telling Amazon that it would play in my car player, they replied that
they wouldn't refund since they don't cover CD incompatibity. I think
that that's BS. Opinions?

Victor

Call them again and don't mention the other players. You probably will get a
different person on the phone, and if you are lucky, they don't have a
record of the first phone call.

Victor Miller wrote:

I recently bought a an audio CD from Amazon, which plays without
problem on my car CD player, and one of my computers. However, in my
portable Sony, and two CD/DVD players attached to my home stereos,
trying to play the CD causes very large vibrations -- two of them will
still play the CD, but the other one won't. I've tried hundreds of
other CD's in them without any problem. I would suspect that the CD
is either warped or mispunched. However, when I made the mistake of
telling Amazon that it would play in my car player, they replied that
they wouldn't refund since they don't cover CD incompatibity. I think
that that's BS. Opinions?

Victor

If the CD were warped or mispunched, it is unlikely to spin correctly in
any drive. Take a careful look at both surfaces for anything unusual.
Look at the edges of the hole for roughness, such as left behind scrap.
If the hole seems rough try a light sanding or scraping to remove flash.

You may get the disk to play in all your drives if your lucky.

"Robert" == Robert Gault writes:

Robert Victor Miller wrote:
I recently bought a an audio CD from Amazon, which plays without
problem on my car CD player, and one of my computers. However, in
my portable Sony, and two CD/DVD players attached to my home
stereos, trying to play the CD causes very large vibrations -- two
of them will still play the CD, but the other one won't. I've
tried hundreds of other CD's in them without any problem. I would
suspect that the CD is either warped or mispunched. However, when
I made the mistake of telling Amazon that it would play in my car
player, they replied that they wouldn't refund since they don't
cover CD incompatibity. I think that that's BS. Opinions? Victor

Robert If the CD were warped or mispunched, it is unlikely to spin
Robert correctly in any drive. Take a careful look at both surfaces
Robert for anything unusual. Look at the edges of the hole for
Robert roughness, such as left behind scrap. If the hole seems rough
Robert try a light sanding or scraping to remove flash.

Robert You may get the disk to play in all your drives if your lucky.

Well this is really strange. I complained to Amazon and they sent a
replacement. It has the same problems! It's really weird, because
I've played 100's of CD's and DVD's on the CD/DVD player before
without any problem. This CD, and its replacement just cause huge
vibrations, and the player won't play it. It causes not so large
vibrations on my other CD/DVD player and portable CD player, but both
will play it. It's made by Deutsche Grammaphon, which, I thought, was
a very reliable company. I'm really puzzled. I just checked the hole
-- it's clean and smooth. Any suggestions?

Victor

"Victor S. Miller" wrote in message
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"Robert" == Robert Gault writes:

Robert Victor Miller wrote:
I recently bought a an audio CD from Amazon, which plays without
problem on my car CD player, and one of my computers. However, in
my portable Sony, and two CD/DVD players attached to my home
stereos, trying to play the CD causes very large vibrations -- two
of them will still play the CD, but the other one won't. I've
tried hundreds of other CD's in them without any problem. I would
suspect that the CD is either warped or mispunched. However, when
I made the mistake of telling Amazon that it would play in my car
player, they replied that they wouldn't refund since they don't
cover CD incompatibity. I think that that's BS. Opinions? Victor

Robert If the CD were warped or mispunched, it is unlikely to spin
Robert correctly in any drive. Take a careful look at both surfaces
Robert for anything unusual. Look at the edges of the hole for
Robert roughness, such as left behind scrap. If the hole seems rough
Robert try a light sanding or scraping to remove flash.

Robert You may get the disk to play in all your drives if your lucky.

Well this is really strange. I complained to Amazon and they sent a
replacement. It has the same problems! It's really weird, because
I've played 100's of CD's and DVD's on the CD/DVD player before
without any problem. This CD, and its replacement just cause huge
vibrations, and the player won't play it. It causes not so large
vibrations on my other CD/DVD player and portable CD player, but both
will play it. It's made by Deutsche Grammaphon, which, I thought, was
a very reliable company. I'm really puzzled. I just checked the hole
-- it's clean and smooth. Any suggestions?

Victor

It sounds to me like the drives having the vibration problem might be 48x
drives or something, and the disk is spinning extremely fast. It's probably
the CD, but at 48x, a bit more paint on the label on one side could cause
excessive vibration. You might have better luck if you could slow down the
drives. It's a configuration option on some drives. On Windows, my drives
run at 1x when I un-check "Enable digital CD audio for this CD-ROM device"
in Device Manager. It might be worth a try.

"Karl" == Karl Uppiano writes:

Karl "Victor S. Miller" wrote in message
Karl ...
"Robert" == Robert Gault
writes:

Robert Victor Miller wrote:
I recently bought a an audio CD from Amazon, which plays without
problem on my car CD player, and one of my computers. However,
in my portable Sony, and two CD/DVD players attached to my home
stereos, trying to play the CD causes very large vibrations --
two of them will still play the CD, but the other one won't.
I've tried hundreds of other CD's in them without any problem. I
would suspect that the CD is either warped or mispunched.
However, when I made the mistake of telling Amazon that it would
play in my car player, they replied that they wouldn't refund
since they don't cover CD incompatibity. I think that that's BS.
Opinions? Victor

Robert If the CD were warped or mispunched, it is unlikely to spin
Robert correctly in any drive. Take a careful look at both surfaces
Robert for anything unusual. Look at the edges of the hole for
Robert roughness, such as left behind scrap. If the hole seems rough
Robert try a light sanding or scraping to remove flash.

Robert You may get the disk to play in all your drives if your lucky.
Well this is really strange. I complained to Amazon and they sent
a replacement. It has the same problems! It's really weird,
because I've played 100's of CD's and DVD's on the CD/DVD player
before without any problem. This CD, and its replacement just
cause huge vibrations, and the player won't play it. It causes not
so large vibrations on my other CD/DVD player and portable CD
player, but both will play it. It's made by Deutsche Grammaphon,
which, I thought, was a very reliable company. I'm really puzzled.
I just checked the hole -- it's clean and smooth. Any suggestions?

Victor

Karl It sounds to me like the drives having the vibration problem
Karl might be 48x drives or something, and the disk is spinning
Karl extremely fast. It's probably the CD, but at 48x, a bit more
Karl paint on the label on one side could cause excessive
Karl vibration. You might have better luck if you could slow down the
Karl drives. It's a configuration option on some drives. On Windows,
Karl my drives run at 1x when I un-check "Enable digital CD audio for
Karl this CD-ROM device" in Device Manager. It might be worth a try.

Actually, the computer CD drives have no problem with the disc
(neither does my car CD player). The drive with the problem is a GE
DVD/CD player (attached to my home stereo). I believe that it is a
relabeled APEX. It can't play the disc at all -- and gets very loud
vibration. A Toshiba DVD/CD player on my other stereo gets fairly
loud vibrations but can play the disc. My SONY walkman CD player also
gets fairly loud vibrations but can play the disc. I don't think that
I have the option of slowing these down.

Victor

Actually, the computer CD drives have no problem with the disc
(neither does my car CD player). The drive with the problem is a GE
DVD/CD player (attached to my home stereo). I believe that it is a
relabeled APEX. It can't play the disc at all -- and gets very loud
vibration. A Toshiba DVD/CD player on my other stereo gets fairly
loud vibrations but can play the disc. My SONY walkman CD player also
gets fairly loud vibrations but can play the disc. I don't think that
I have the option of slowing these down.

That is strange. Most non-buffering, non-anti-skip players run at 1x. I'm
wondering if the hole is slightly undersize, and the disk isn't mounting
correctly on the spindle, or conversely, slightly over size, and doesn't
mount on-center. Different spindle designs will have different problems with
out-of-spec discs. Some are better at centering and/or clamping than others.

Someone who works at a CD pressing plant could probably tell you about all
sorts of ways CDs could get out-of-spec.