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Brilliant piece of reasoning! I'm convinced you have now made third
grade. Don - the right-wingnuts used Mars warming as evidence on why the Earth might be warming up. This wasn't my reasoning. But I agree that the right-wingnuts have about a 3rd grade mentality. Go away for a while and learn how to argue. You reason like a Christian right now. I am willing to bet that you are a right-wing, Christian fundamentalist. Prove me wrong. Why do you continue to not provide us with the evidence that the Earth is cooling down? Mr Soul |
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On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:39:24 -0800 (PST), Mr Soul
wrote: Don - can you please show us the evidence of the Earth cooling down. Thanks. Mr Soul Dunno if I can be bothered to find it again; Google for it. But while you are looking, here is some stuff from what climatologists consider key indicators. First the temperature history of central Greenland: http://westinstenv.org/wp-content/po...rook_graph.jpg This is part of the Easterbrook projection which seems to backed by rather better science than most, untainted as it is by political manoeuvering. You can see an abstract of a paper he http://westinstenv.org/palbot/2008/1...three-decades/ It only attempts to predict the next thirty years or so, and frankly anyone trying to go beyond that is talking through his hat. Also of interest is a graph showing, in some detail, CO2 level and global temperature since 2002. http://icecap.us/images/uploads/CRUMSUCO2June.jpg Read the quick facts and follow the links: http://www.isthereglobalwarming.com/ that'll do for now. You really do need to research more widely. If the only authorities you consult are those on the Bandwagon of Orthodoxy, you will learn nothing about the Earth's climate, but plenty about the political climate. Get yourself out of the morass of green-upmanship before you sink. d |
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On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:43:42 -0800 (PST), Mr Soul
wrote: Brilliant piece of reasoning! I'm convinced you have now made third grade. Don - the right-wingnuts used Mars warming as evidence on why the Earth might be warming up. This wasn't my reasoning. But I agree that the right-wingnuts have about a 3rd grade mentality. Go away for a while and learn how to argue. You reason like a Christian right now. I am willing to bet that you are a right-wing, Christian fundamentalist. Prove me wrong. In your world you are right. How could you be otherwise? Why do you continue to not provide us with the evidence that the Earth is cooling down? Done in another post. The only evidence you have to the contrary is politically tainted beyond credibility. d |
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Andre Jute wrote:
Hey, don't sound so pleased. I'm a cyclist. I was looking forward to all those hi-temp days those lying *******s of the Global Warming Church promised me. Lying scumbags musta believed the Scientology overinflation of their intelligence quotients. They sure as hell got global warming out of a mucky teacup. I'm not sure if you're a lying-*******-fuel-industry stooge, or a rebel whose only cause is stroking his own ego with fallacious dissent. What's funny is your arrogant reference to the "Global Warming Church." The vast majority of scientists agree that GW IS happening, and that there IS a human component to it. You're the religious zealot ignoring and twisting science to suit your agenda, either for personal gain or latent adolescent nonconformity. |
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Dave wrote:
Andre Jute wrote: Hey, don't sound so pleased. I'm a cyclist. I was looking forward to all those hi-temp days those lying *******s of the Global Warming Church promised me. Lying scumbags musta believed the Scientology overinflation of their intelligence quotients. They sure as hell got global warming out of a mucky teacup. I'm not sure if you're a lying-*******-fuel-industry stooge, or a rebel whose only cause is stroking his own ego with fallacious dissent. What's funny is your arrogant reference to the "Global Warming Church." The vast majority of scientists agree that GW IS happening, and that there IS a human component to it. You're the religious zealot ignoring and twisting science to suit your agenda, either for personal gain or latent adolescent nonconformity. Just saying it's so doesn't make it so. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ja...lobal-warming/ http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...lobal-cooling/ http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnal...aspx?id=513195 Face it, losers: the wheels are (finally) coming off the Church of Global Warming Alarmism bandwagon. Bill "better late than TOO late" S. |
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Lord Valve wrote:
Even the New York Slimes can't spin this one away - http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/21/sc...21climate.html The Boston Herald weighs in - http://www.bostonherald.com/business...ition=r ecent Gosh, this is *ever* so shocking - I mean, who knew? Oops, I mean, who *didn't* know? Evidently, just the pack of Green Weenies, Watermelons and Ecotards who infect these sorry-ass boards... 'Scuse me, I gotta go laugh now...toodle-oo, pip-pip, etc. OK, commence spinning. We'll wait for the first actual wrongdoing to be exposed. Day 4 and counting, IIRC. lol |
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RickH wrote:
On Nov 23, 9:47 am, Lord Valve wrote: Even the New York Slimes can't spin this one away - http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/21/sc...21climate.html The Boston Herald weighs in - http://www.bostonherald.com/business...ticleid=121348... Gosh, this is *ever* so shocking - I mean, who knew? Oops, I mean, who *didn't* know? Evidently, just the pack of Green Weenies, Watermelons and Ecotards who infect these sorry-ass boards... 'Scuse me, I gotta go laugh now...toodle-oo, pip-pip, etc. OK, commence spinning. Lord Valve Globally Cool http://newsbusters.org/ Sorry, right wing lie site. |
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Don Pearce wrote:
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:34:28 -0800 (PST), Mr Soul wrote: These emails are unimportant. Global warming exists and only a fool would say that it doesn't. Mr Soul Cooling, not warming. The global temperature has been dropping for the last ten years. Ridiculous lie. |
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Don Pearce wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:48:59 +1100, "Trevor Wilson" wrote: Don Pearce wrote: On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:34:28 -0800 (PST), Mr Soul wrote: These emails are unimportant. Global warming exists and only a fool would say that it doesn't. Mr Soul Cooling, not warming. The global temperature has been dropping for the last ten years. **Tsk, tsk. Regurgitating a lie does not make it the truth. Repeat after me: * 1998 was an unusually warm, El Nino year. * The temperature TREND is the important thing, not individual, yearly variations. * 13 of the last 14 years have been the warmest on record. * The TREND of rising temperature levels is clear (to scientists). * Do not listen to the religious nutters. Pay attention to the scientists. Still got those stars going on, wrecking the threading. Please drop them. Use the protocol. Heard the latest from here? A load of leaked emails detailing massaged figures, hidden embarrassing data etc. The **** has hit the fan for the global warming lobby. Sorry, still no wrongdoing shown. lol |
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On Nov 24, 11:02*am, "Bill Sornson" wrote:
Dave wrote: Andre Jute wrote: Hey, don't sound so pleased. I'm a cyclist. I was looking forward to all those hi-temp days those lying *******s of the Global Warming Church promised me. Lying scumbags musta believed the Scientology overinflation of their intelligence quotients. They sure as hell got global warming out of a mucky teacup. I'm not sure if you're a lying-*******-fuel-industry stooge, or a rebel whose only cause is stroking his own ego with fallacious dissent. *What's funny is your arrogant reference to the "Global Warming Church." *The vast majority of scientists agree that GW IS happening, and that there IS a human component to it. *You're the religious zealot ignoring and twisting science to suit your agenda, either for personal gain or latent adolescent nonconformity. Just saying it's so doesn't make it so. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ja...7393/climatega... A blog claims that there is a smoking gun, but doesn't provide any sort of evidence. FAIL. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...evidence-of-gl... An unsigned editorial from the Moonie owned Times is also hysterical without presenting any shred of damning evidence of a conspiracy. http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnal...aspx?id=513195 OK, a third opinion piece that's also unsigned foments further right wing authoritarian hysteria...again with no evidence. Face it, losers: *the wheels are (finally) coming off the Church of Global Warming Alarmism bandwagon. But you've provided no evidence, simply links to hysterical op/eds. |
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Don Pearce wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:04:36 -0800 (PST), Mr Soul wrote: Heard the latest from here? A load of leaked emails detailing massaged figures, hidden embarrassing data etc. The **** has hit the fan for the global warming lobby. Those emails weren't from every scientist and some of them are over 10 years old. You right-wing-nuts find some old emails & you think you've found some kind of smokin' gun. Mr Soul The ones that are out of date, or say nothing can be ignored. There are plenty enough that are current, from environmental scientists, and suggesting ways of hiding data, doing "tricks" on the maths etc to be damning. Nope, not yet. So far, they haven't found any wrongdoing whatsoever. |
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Don Pearce wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:16:19 -0800 (PST), Mr Soul wrote: The ones that are out of date, or say nothing can be ignored. There are plenty enough that are current, from environmental scientists, and suggesting ways of hiding data, doing "tricks" on the maths etc to be damning. And fyi, I am not of the right wing. Well if you aren't, you are preaching the same thing that they preach (except I don't recall any of them saying the Earth is cooling). Perhaps you should read this - it's from the EPA - http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/fq/science.html#q6 Mr Soul Truth has nothing to do with political leanings - there are liars and personal interests on both sides of that fence. And it is a fact that the earth is currently in a cooling cycle. That is a part of what these emails are seeking to conceal. The method goes thus. First deny totally. Then when the facts emerge, claim that the readings are anomalies, and normal warming will be resumed. Anything, in fact, apart from admitting the data. This all a travesty of science. Real scientists put their data and theories out there, and seek refutation by other scientists. They even include methods of refutation alongside their theories to make life easier. This called a falsifiable theory, and it is the only kind that carries any scientific weight or credibility. What we have in AGW is a situation where there is a quasi-religious position that may not be denied on pain of loss of tenure, job, livelihood. This is NOT science, it is pure totalitarian politics. Made-up crazyassed crap. |
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Don Pearce wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:51:01 -0800 (PST), Mr Soul wrote: Truth has nothing to do with political leanings - there are liars and personal interests on both sides of that fence. And it is a fact that the earth is currently in a cooling cycle. That is a part of what these emails are seeking to conceal. No - it is NOT fact. You continue not to back up your claims. And you continue to confuse politics with science. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091026/...global_cooling AP IMPACT: Statisticians reject global cooling "WASHINGTON - Have you heard that the world is now cooling instead of warming? You may have seen some news reports on the Internet or heard about it from a provocative new book. Only one problem: It's not true, according to an analysis of the numbers done by several independent statisticians for The Associated Press. ..." No, you don't see analysis by independent statisticians. That's it, right above. Who do you think you're fooling? lol They are not part of the Club of the Orthodoxy. And think about that word - "analyse". You take some raw data that shows a fall, then subject it to "analysis" by people who toe the Line of the Orthodoxy, and as if by magic the numbers are all headed upwards. Makes you want to spit. Made-up crazyassed crap. This all a travesty of science. Real scientists put their data and theories out there, and seek refutation by other scientists. They even include methods of refutation alongside their theories to make life easier. This called a falsifiable theory, and it is the only kind that carries any scientific weight or credibility. What we have in AGW is a situation where there is a quasi-religious position that may not be denied on pain of loss of tenure, job, livelihood. This is NOT science, it is pure totalitarian politics. Prove this statement. The scientists who study global climate change are for the most part, non-political. The ones who are allowed to be heard are those who toe the Line of the Orthodoxy. Those who say otherwise are marginalized and silenced. This is NOT how science is supposed to work. Sorry, lies from liars don'tget published. The liars may scream, but the world is full of journals, and they are rejected by them all. |
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On Nov 24, 10:26*am, landotter wrote:
On Nov 24, 11:02*am, "Bill Sornson" wrote: Dave wrote: Andre Jute wrote: Hey, don't sound so pleased. I'm a cyclist. I was looking forward to all those hi-temp days those lying *******s of the Global Warming Church promised me. Lying scumbags musta believed the Scientology overinflation of their intelligence quotients. They sure as hell got global warming out of a mucky teacup. I'm not sure if you're a lying-*******-fuel-industry stooge, or a rebel whose only cause is stroking his own ego with fallacious dissent. *What's funny is your arrogant reference to the "Global Warming Church." *The vast majority of scientists agree that GW IS happening, and that there IS a human component to it. *You're the religious zealot ignoring and twisting science to suit your agenda, either for personal gain or latent adolescent nonconformity. Just saying it's so doesn't make it so. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ja...7393/climatega... A blog claims that there is a smoking gun, but doesn't provide any sort of evidence. FAIL. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...evidence-of-gl... An unsigned editorial from the Moonie owned Times is also hysterical without presenting any shred of damning evidence of a conspiracy. http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnal...aspx?id=513195 OK, a third opinion piece that's also unsigned foments further right wing authoritarian hysteria...again with no evidence. Face it, losers: *the wheels are (finally) coming off the Church of Global Warming Alarmism bandwagon. But you've provided no evidence, simply links to hysterical op/eds. Please don't (further) confuse Bill. |
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Don Pearce wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:39:24 -0800 (PST), Mr Soul wrote: Don - can you please show us the evidence of the Earth cooling down. Thanks. Mr Soul Dunno if I can be bothered to find it again; Google for it. But while you are looking, here is some stuff from what climatologists consider key indicators. First the temperature history of central Greenland: http://westinstenv.org/wp-content/po...rook_graph.jpg This is part of the Easterbrook projection which seems to backed by rather better science than most, untainted as it is by political manoeuvering. You can see an abstract of a paper he Sorry, Easterbrook is an already-busted denialist liar. http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/20...morano-jokers/ http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php...on_Easterbrook http://westinstenv.org/palbot/2008/1...three-decades/ It only attempts to predict the next thirty years or so, and frankly anyone trying to go beyond that is talking through his hat. Also of interest is a graph showing, in some detail, CO2 level and global temperature since 2002. http://icecap.us/images/uploads/CRUMSUCO2June.jpg Sorry, special purpose denialist lie site. Read the quick facts and follow the links: http://www.isthereglobalwarming.com/ And still more made-up crazyassed crap. lol |
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flipper wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:48:59 +1100, "Trevor Wilson" wrote: Don Pearce wrote: On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:34:28 -0800 (PST), Mr Soul wrote: These emails are unimportant. Global warming exists and only a fool would say that it doesn't. Mr Soul Cooling, not warming. The global temperature has been dropping for the last ten years. **Tsk, tsk. Regurgitating a lie does not make it the truth. Repeat after me: * 1998 was an unusually warm, El Nino year. * The temperature TREND is the important thing, not individual, yearly variations. * 13 of the last 14 years have been the warmest on record. * The TREND of rising temperature levels is clear (to scientists). * Do not listen to the religious nutters. Pay attention to the scientists. You should have read the emails. THEY note the inability to explain there is no recent warming is "a travesty." Sounds odd, for people who are supposed to be running a scam. lol |
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Arny Krueger wrote:
"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message Don Pearce wrote: On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:34:28 -0800 (PST), Mr Soul wrote: These emails are unimportant. Global warming exists and only a fool would say that it doesn't. Mr Soul Cooling, not warming. The global temperature has been dropping for the last ten years. Well, around here temperature has probably been rising. About 30 years ago I bought a pair of cross-country skis and used them for about 10 years in nearby places. There hasn't been enough snow around here for at least 15 years to make them worthwhile, even to enthusiasts. But that's all short term noise in the cosmic scheme of things. When you start talking about making changes involving thousands of billions of dollars, you need more evidence than just some short-term variations. **Tsk, tsk. Regurgitating a lie does not make it the truth. Many of us know that you've apparently unknowingly done that many times in the past, Trevor. Repeat after me: * 1998 was an unusually warm, El Nino year. * The temperature TREND is the important thing, not individual, yearly variations. * 13 of the last 14 years have been the warmest on record. * The TREND of rising temperature levels is clear (to scientists). Given that something simple, well-known, gross, and relevant like sunspots has an 22 year cycle - what sort of conclusion can reasonably be formed with 14 years worth of data? Do you mean 1400 years, or 14,000? |
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On Nov 24, 5:31*am, (Don Pearce) wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:16:19 -0800 (PST), Mr Soul wrote: The ones that are out of date, or say nothing can be ignored. There are plenty enough that are current, from environmental scientists, and suggesting ways of hiding data, doing "tricks" on the maths etc to be damning. And fyi, I am not of the right wing. Well if you aren't, you are preaching the same thing that they preach (except I don't recall any of them saying the Earth is cooling). Perhaps you should read this - it's from the EPA - http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/fq/science.html#q6 Mr Soul Truth has nothing to do with political leanings - there are liars and personal interests on both sides of that fence. And it is a fact that the earth is currently in a cooling cycle. That is a part of what these emails are seeking to conceal. The method goes thus. First deny totally. Then when the facts emerge, claim that the readings are anomalies, and normal warming will be resumed. Anything, in fact, apart from admitting the data. This all a travesty of science. Real scientists put their data and theories out there, and seek refutation by other scientists. They even include methods of refutation alongside their theories to make life easier. This called a falsifiable theory, and it is the only kind that carries any scientific weight or credibility. What we have in AGW is a situation where there is a quasi-religious position that may not be denied on pain of loss of tenure, job, livelihood. This is NOT science, it is pure totalitarian politics. d I haven't read all of the emails. Have you read something that indicates that a person with hiring/firing power threatened the tenure of subordinate because that subordinate questioned theories of global warming? I mean, sure, some bitter egghead scientists would undoubtedly bitch about the people with whom they disagree - much like people do here - but that's a far cry from "pure totalitarian politics". Some few might even get into personal ****ing matches and try to prevent a rival from being published, but they, like the fringe jobs arguing on the other side, lose their impact amid the larger community. |
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flipper wrote:
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:34:28 -0800 (PST), Mr Soul wrote: These emails are unimportant. Global warming exists and only a fool would say that it doesn't. Mr Soul And that, my friends, is what AGW loons call 'scientific debate'. What you mean is, you can't disprove a word of it. lol |
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Bill Sornson wrote:
Dave wrote: Andre Jute wrote: Hey, don't sound so pleased. I'm a cyclist. I was looking forward to all those hi-temp days those lying *******s of the Global Warming Church promised me. Lying scumbags musta believed the Scientology overinflation of their intelligence quotients. They sure as hell got global warming out of a mucky teacup. I'm not sure if you're a lying-*******-fuel-industry stooge, or a rebel whose only cause is stroking his own ego with fallacious dissent. What's funny is your arrogant reference to the "Global Warming Church." The vast majority of scientists agree that GW IS happening, and that there IS a human component to it. You're the religious zealot ignoring and twisting science to suit your agenda, either for personal gain or latent adolescent nonconformity. Just saying it's so doesn't make it so. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ja...lobal-warming/ http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...lobal-cooling/ http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnal...aspx?id=513195 Face it, losers: the wheels are (finally) coming off the Church of Global Warming Alarmism bandwagon. Bill "better late than TOO late" S. Nice series of right wing lie articles. Now, where is the actual wrongdoing? |
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Don Pearce wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:01:40 -0800 (PST), Mr Soul wrote: Lord Valve Globally Cool Hate to disapoint you Slick, but the Earth is warming up - http://climateprogress.org/2009/11/2...-keep-warming/. And if the Earth is really cooling down, as you right-wingnuts claim, then what happen to your big argument about Mars warming up? Is argument that now out the door? Brilliant piece of reasoning! I'm convinced you have now made third grade. There's SO much evidence to support global warming. Even where I live in NH, it's well documented that the seasonal length of certain plants is several weeks longer than it used to be. Some of Thoreau's botanical work has been used to verify this. Sorry guys - you are wrong this time! Well, where I live it is 2 degrees colder today than it was yesterday. So that means in just over four months the temperature here will hit absolute zero. Right? Your reasoning in this paragraph is no better than that in your first. Go away for a while and learn how to argue. You reason like a Christian right now. Hey, post some more crazyassed denialist lie sites for us, that was entertaining. |
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Don Pearce wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:43:42 -0800 (PST), Mr Soul wrote: Brilliant piece of reasoning! I'm convinced you have now made third grade. Don - the right-wingnuts used Mars warming as evidence on why the Earth might be warming up. This wasn't my reasoning. But I agree that the right-wingnuts have about a 3rd grade mentality. Go away for a while and learn how to argue. You reason like a Christian right now. I am willing to bet that you are a right-wing, Christian fundamentalist. Prove me wrong. In your world you are right. How could you be otherwise? Why do you continue to not provide us with the evidence that the Earth is cooling down? Done in another post. You have no such evidence. |
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Ouroboros Rex wrote:
Bill Sornson wrote: Dave wrote: Andre Jute wrote: Hey, don't sound so pleased. I'm a cyclist. I was looking forward to all those hi-temp days those lying *******s of the Global Warming Church promised me. Lying scumbags musta believed the Scientology overinflation of their intelligence quotients. They sure as hell got global warming out of a mucky teacup. I'm not sure if you're a lying-*******-fuel-industry stooge, or a rebel whose only cause is stroking his own ego with fallacious dissent. What's funny is your arrogant reference to the "Global Warming Church." The vast majority of scientists agree that GW IS happening, and that there IS a human component to it. You're the religious zealot ignoring and twisting science to suit your agenda, either for personal gain or latent adolescent nonconformity. Just saying it's so doesn't make it so. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ja...lobal-warming/ http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...lobal-cooling/ http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnal...aspx?id=513195 Face it, losers: the wheels are (finally) coming off the Church of Global Warming Alarmism bandwagon. Bill "better late than TOO late" S. Nice series of right wing lie articles. Now, where is the actual wrongdoing? LOL Just keep sticking your head in the (now cooling) earth, Anonymous Ostrich. Saying "the vast majority of scientists agree that GW IS happening" is like saying that the vast majority of doctors are in favor of ObamaCare. Dressing 'em up and putting them in the Rose Garden doesn't make it true. Funny how the NYT and WP aren't reporting the /content/ of the smoking gun e-mails, just that they were hacked. Enjoy your ideological delusion while it lasts. The wheels are coming off and it's going to get /really/ bumpy down the road. BS (really) |
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Done in another post. The only evidence you have to the contrary is
politically tainted beyond credibility. Please provide a link to that post, because the data is false. It is in agreement that the data shows the Earth is warming up, so you are in error to say that it is cooling. Mr Soul |
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Bill Sornson wrote:
Ouroboros Rex wrote: Bill Sornson wrote: Dave wrote: Andre Jute wrote: Hey, don't sound so pleased. I'm a cyclist. I was looking forward to all those hi-temp days those lying *******s of the Global Warming Church promised me. Lying scumbags musta believed the Scientology overinflation of their intelligence quotients. They sure as hell got global warming out of a mucky teacup. I'm not sure if you're a lying-*******-fuel-industry stooge, or a rebel whose only cause is stroking his own ego with fallacious dissent. What's funny is your arrogant reference to the "Global Warming Church." The vast majority of scientists agree that GW IS happening, and that there IS a human component to it. You're the religious zealot ignoring and twisting science to suit your agenda, either for personal gain or latent adolescent nonconformity. Just saying it's so doesn't make it so. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ja...lobal-warming/ http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...lobal-cooling/ http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnal...aspx?id=513195 Face it, losers: the wheels are (finally) coming off the Church of Global Warming Alarmism bandwagon. Bill "better late than TOO late" S. Nice series of right wing lie articles. Now, where is the actual wrongdoing? LOL Just keep sticking your head in the (now cooling) earth, Anonymous Ostrich. Saying "the vast majority of scientists agree that GW IS happening" is like saying that the vast majority of doctors are in favor of ObamaCare. Dressing 'em up and putting them in the Rose Garden doesn't make it true. Funny how the NYT and WP aren't reporting the /content/ of the smoking gun e-mails, just that they were hacked. Enjoy your ideological delusion while it lasts. The wheels are coming off and it's going to get /really/ bumpy down the road. BS (really) PS: Here are two more fer ya: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art..._in_99280.html http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...758682774.html Bill "by all means, attack the SOURCES and not their SUBSTANCE" S. |
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that'll do for now. You really do need to research more widely. If the
only authorities you consult are those on the Bandwagon of Orthodoxy, you will learn nothing about the Earth's climate, but plenty about the political climate. Get yourself out of the morass of green-upmanship before you sink. I really don't know why I bother having this conversation. You really can't argue with someone who says the stuff you say because you redefine the rules, i.e., you dismiss what you want to dismiss. It is a FACT and it is scientifically agreed that the Earth is warming up. There is TONS of evidence supporting it. Even Thoreau's early botanical work has given input. Why is it that your "scientific" evidence is better than the climate scientists who have been researching this issue for sometime? Where is the critical review of these so-called studies. Mr Soul |
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On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:20:06 -0800 (PST), Mr Soul
wrote: that'll do for now. You really do need to research more widely. If the only authorities you consult are those on the Bandwagon of Orthodoxy, you will learn nothing about the Earth's climate, but plenty about the political climate. Get yourself out of the morass of green-upmanship before you sink. I really don't know why I bother having this conversation. You really can't argue with someone who says the stuff you say because you redefine the rules, i.e., you dismiss what you want to dismiss. It is a FACT and it is scientifically agreed that the Earth is warming up. There is TONS of evidence supporting it. Even Thoreau's early botanical work has given input. Why is it that your "scientific" evidence is better than the climate scientists who have been researching this issue for sometime? Where is the critical review of these so-called studies. Mr Soul The earth is doing what it is doing. Change is the normal condition for Earth's climate. Temperature goes up and temperature goes down. There is nothing political about it - it happens. At the moment the temperature is going down, and your capitalization of the word FACT doesn't make it any more true. The argument is over anthropogenic global warming, and there is no - and I do mean zero - evidence supporting it. The models have been discredited, and now we learn that the scientists supporting it are baffled and telling each other to fudge data to hide the fact that their models can't even manage a couple of years of prediction. d |
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The earth is doing what it is doing. Change is the normal condition
for Earth's climate. Temperature goes up and temperature goes down. There is nothing political about it - it happens. No disagreement here. At the moment the temperature is going down, and your capitalization of the word FACT doesn't make it any more true. No - it's NOT. You have not cited any evidence to show that it is currently going down. You've shown some predictions that it might but it is in FACT going up. And yes capitalization does imply that it is true, because it is. You've cited one scientifist (Easterbrook) who have been a critic. Where is the critical review of his work? I'll cited again the FACTS: Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) 2007 Main article: Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change In February 2007, the IPCC released a summary of the forthcoming Fourth Assessment Report. According to this summary, the Fourth Assessment Report finds that human actions are "very likely" the cause of global warming, meaning a 90% or greater probability. Global warming in this case is indicated by an increase of 0.75 degrees in average global temperatures over the last 100 years.[3] The New York Times reported: The world's leading climate scientists said global warming has begun, is very likely caused by man, and will be unstoppable for centuries.... The phrase very likely translates to a more than 90 percent certainty that global warming is caused by man's burning of fossil fuels. That was the strongest conclusion to date, making it nearly impossible to say natural forces are to blame.[4] The report said that an increase in hurricane and tropical cyclone strength since 1970 more likely than not can be attributed to man-made global warming. The scientists said global warming's connection varies with storms in different parts of the world, but that the storms that strike the Americas are global warming-influenced.[5] The Associated Press summarized the position on sea level rise: On sea levels, the report projects rises of 7-23 inches by the end of the century. That could be augmented by an additional 4-8 inches if recent polar ice sheet melt continues.[6] [edit] U.S. Global Change Research Program formerly the Climate Change Science Program The U.S. Global Change Research Program reported in June, 2009[7] that: Observations show that warming of the climate is unequivocal. The global warming observed over the past 50 years is due primarily to human-induced emissions of heat-trapping gases. These emissions come mainly from the burning of fossil fuels (coal, oil, and gas), with important contributions from the clearing of forests, agricultural practices, and other activities. Here's the graph - http://climateprogress.org/2009/11/2...-keep-warming/. |
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Don Pearce wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:20:06 -0800 (PST), Mr Soul wrote: that'll do for now. You really do need to research more widely. If the only authorities you consult are those on the Bandwagon of Orthodoxy, you will learn nothing about the Earth's climate, but plenty about the political climate. Get yourself out of the morass of green-upmanship before you sink. I really don't know why I bother having this conversation. You really can't argue with someone who says the stuff you say because you redefine the rules, i.e., you dismiss what you want to dismiss. It is a FACT and it is scientifically agreed that the Earth is warming up. There is TONS of evidence supporting it. Even Thoreau's early botanical work has given input. Why is it that your "scientific" evidence is better than the climate scientists who have been researching this issue for sometime? Where is the critical review of these so-called studies. Mr Soul The earth is doing what it is doing. Change is the normal condition for Earth's climate. Temperature goes up and temperature goes down. There is nothing political about it - it happens. At the moment the temperature is going down, and your capitalization of the word FACT doesn't make it any more true. The argument is over anthropogenic global warming, and there is no - and I do mean zero - evidence supporting it. The models have been discredited, and now we learn that the scientists supporting it are baffled and telling each other to fudge data to hide the fact that their models can't even manage a couple of years of prediction. d Mr. Pearce - You fail to understand the true nature of the conflict. You claim that they are wrong, and you'd like them to admit it and get busy with correction of flawed or fudged data. They claim that you are a heretic, and want you burned. Galileo, anyone? Lord Valve Globally Cool |
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"Ouroboros Rex" wrote in message
Arny Krueger wrote: "Trevor Wilson" wrote in message Repeat after me: * 1998 was an unusually warm, El Nino year. * The temperature TREND is the important thing, not individual, yearly variations. * 13 of the last 14 years have been the warmest on record. * The TREND of rising temperature levels is clear (to scientists). Given that something simple, well-known, gross, and relevant like sunspots has an 22 year cycle - what sort of conclusion can reasonably be formed with 14 years worth of data? Do you mean 1400 years, or 14,000? I mean 14, the number that Trevor mentioned: "* 13 of the last 14 years have been the warmest on record." Information about temperatures over the past 1400 or 14,000 years is inferred, not based on actual measurements. |
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On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:46:38 -0700, Lord Valve
wrote: Don Pearce wrote: On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:20:06 -0800 (PST), Mr Soul wrote: that'll do for now. You really do need to research more widely. If the only authorities you consult are those on the Bandwagon of Orthodoxy, you will learn nothing about the Earth's climate, but plenty about the political climate. Get yourself out of the morass of green-upmanship before you sink. I really don't know why I bother having this conversation. You really can't argue with someone who says the stuff you say because you redefine the rules, i.e., you dismiss what you want to dismiss. It is a FACT and it is scientifically agreed that the Earth is warming up. There is TONS of evidence supporting it. Even Thoreau's early botanical work has given input. Why is it that your "scientific" evidence is better than the climate scientists who have been researching this issue for sometime? Where is the critical review of these so-called studies. Mr Soul The earth is doing what it is doing. Change is the normal condition for Earth's climate. Temperature goes up and temperature goes down. There is nothing political about it - it happens. At the moment the temperature is going down, and your capitalization of the word FACT doesn't make it any more true. The argument is over anthropogenic global warming, and there is no - and I do mean zero - evidence supporting it. The models have been discredited, and now we learn that the scientists supporting it are baffled and telling each other to fudge data to hide the fact that their models can't even manage a couple of years of prediction. d Mr. Pearce - You fail to understand the true nature of the conflict. You claim that they are wrong, and you'd like them to admit it and get busy with correction of flawed or fudged data. They claim that you are a heretic, and want you burned. Galileo, anyone? Lord Valve Globally Cool Eppur si muove. d |
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You fail to understand the true nature of the conflict.
You claim that they are wrong, and you'd like them to admit it and get busy with correction of flawed or fudged data. *They claim that you are a heretic, and want you burned. Galileo, anyone? Too funny Slick - you got me laughing on that one!! You're intelligent enough to see the analogy but we're Galileo and you guys are the Church. Mr Soul |
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On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:04:55 -0800 (PST), Mr Soul
wrote: You fail to understand the true nature of the conflict. You claim that they are wrong, and you'd like them to admit it and get busy with correction of flawed or fudged data. *They claim that you are a heretic, and want you burned. Galileo, anyone? Too funny Slick - you got me laughing on that one!! You're intelligent enough to see the analogy but we're Galileo and you guys are the Church. Mr Soul Yours is the Orthodoxy Which May Not Be Challenged. I think we can all manage the trivial job of working out which is which, particularly now the lies at its heart are being exposed. d |
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On Nov 24, 10:01*am, "Bill Sornson" wrote:
Ouroboros Rex wrote: Bill Sornson wrote: Dave wrote: Andre Jute wrote: Hey, don't sound so pleased. I'm a cyclist. I was looking forward to all those hi-temp days those lying *******s of the Global Warming Church promised me. Lying scumbags musta believed the Scientology overinflation of their intelligence quotients. They sure as hell got global warming out of a mucky teacup. I'm not sure if you're a lying-*******-fuel-industry stooge, or a rebel whose only cause is stroking his own ego with fallacious dissent. *What's funny is your arrogant reference to the "Global Warming Church." *The vast majority of scientists agree that GW IS happening, and that there IS a human component to it. *You're the religious zealot ignoring and twisting science to suit your agenda, either for personal gain or latent adolescent nonconformity. Just saying it's so doesn't make it so. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ja...7393/climatega.... http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...evidence-of-gl.... http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnal...aspx?id=513195 Face it, losers: *the wheels are (finally) coming off the Church of Global Warming Alarmism bandwagon. Bill "better late than TOO late" S. *Nice series of right wing lie articles. *Now, where is the actual wrongdoing? LOL *Just keep sticking your head in the (now cooling) earth, Anonymous Ostrich. Saying "the vast majority of scientists agree that GW IS happening" is like saying that the vast majority of doctors are in favor of ObamaCare. Dressing 'em up and putting them in the Rose Garden doesn't make it true. Funny how the NYT and WP aren't reporting the /content/ of the smoking gun e-mails, just that they were hacked. Enjoy your ideological delusion while it lasts. *The wheels are coming off and it's going to get /really/ bumpy down the road. BS (really)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The NYT posted a link to the emails, so you can see for yourself. |
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Yours is the Orthodoxy Which May Not Be Challenged. I think we can all
manage the trivial job of working out which is which, particularly now the lies at its heart are being exposed. And you live in a dream world. The Earth is warming up - everybody knows that. Mr Soul |
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On Nov 24, 3:49*pm, "Dave" wrote:
Andre Jute wrote: Hey, don't sound so pleased. I'm a cyclist. I was looking forward to all those hi-temp days those lying *******s of the Global Warming Church promised me. Lying scumbags musta believed the Scientology overinflation of their intelligence quotients. They sure as hell got global warming out of a mucky teacup. I'm not sure if you're a lying-*******-fuel-industry stooge, or a rebel whose only cause is stroking his own ego with fallacious dissent. *What's funny is your arrogant reference to the "Global Warming Church." *The vast majority of scientists agree that GW IS happening, and that there IS a human component to it. *You're the religious zealot ignoring and twisting science to suit your agenda, either for personal gain or latent adolescent nonconformity. Gee, I start a dozen threads that between them constitute a comprehensive condemnation of the fraud of global warming, and you don't object to a single technical or ethical point, but when I make a joke with friends, there you are, all abrasive with your silly attempt at character assassination. Ever hear of a sense of perspective, sonny? Andre Jute Reformed petrol head Car-free since 1992 Greener than thou! |
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On Nov 24, 4:57*pm, Mr Soul wrote:
Yours is the Orthodoxy Which May Not Be Challenged. I think we can all manage the trivial job of working out which is which, particularly now the lies at its heart are being exposed. And you live in a dream world. *The Earth is warming up - everybody knows that. Mr Soul Mr. Non-Orthodoxy, Here are some FACTS for you: - Over the past 30 years, the Earth has warmed by 0.6° C or 1.08° F. Over the past 100 years, it has warmed by 0.8° C or 1.44° F. - "The five warmest years over the last century occurred in the last eight years," said James Hansen, director of NASA GISS. They stack up as follows: the warmest was 2005, then 1998, 2002, 2003 and 2004. http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/env...5_warmest.html http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2005/ I can find lots more but of course, you'll deny them. Mr Soul |
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Mr Shoe continued to stumble:
Yours is the Orthodoxy Which May Not Be Challenged. I think we can all manage the trivial job of working out which is which, particularly now the lies at its heart are being exposed. And you live in a dream world. The Earth is warming up - everybody knows that. Mr Shoe Why, yes, quite so, quite so... And everybody knew that the Earth was flat, that the Earth was the center of the universe and that the sun, the moon, all the planets and the stars revolved around it; not only that, a substance called phlogiston was contained in all flammable materials and released by combustion, disease was caused by bad odors, flight was impossible, and phrenology was the last word on determining character traits. Not only that, heavy objects fell faster than lighter ones. Everybody knew these things, you see, because scientists - ****loads of 'em - said they were true. Only they weren't. Lord Valve Globally Cool |
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On Nov 24, 10:13*pm, Mr Soul wrote:
- "The five warmest years over the last century occurred in the last eight years," said James Hansen, director of NASA GISS. They stack up as follows: the warmest was 2005, then 1998, 2002, 2003 and 2004. http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/env...5_warmest.html http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2005/ Er, didn't NASA recently say they made a mistake, 1934 was the warmest year of the century? -- AJ |
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