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Old March 2nd 17, 04:32 PM posted to rec.audio.tubes
Peter Wieck
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All:
I have changed the format a bit, and put all the links at the beginning. I am also sending this out a bit earlier than usual by about 2 weeks as we have already experienced multiple days of 75F degree weather here in Pennsylvania, our crocuses are in full bloom, our Forsythia is also in full bloom, and the non-migratory butterflies are out already.

http://www.nwf.org/~/media/PDFs/Glob...hange-WEB.ashx

https://entomology.ca.uky.edu/ef631

https://www.cdc.gov/hantavirus/surveillance/

http://bugguide.net/node/view/475348

https://www.cdc.gov/rodents/diseases/direct.html

https://www.cdc.gov/ncezid/dvbd/

https://ee_ce_img.s3.amazonaws.com/c...2_400_301..jpg

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/61646.php
images.radiopaedia.org/images/1827647/6b765cac7f64a5107b54df2e031e12.jpg

Now that there are actual flowers in bloom (Crocus, Forsythia &
Snowdrop), it is time for the annual post on stalking the wild radio (or other collectible) - and what accidental passengers that may come along with it:

1. Insects and other arthropods: Anything from spiders to wasps to fleas and more. Any radio that has spent substantial time in a barn, basement, shed, garage or any other damp or exposed area may well be inhabited by or infested with various small and potentially painful critters. Especially those found in the southern states, home to the Brown Recluse and Black Widow spiders. Wasps, centipedes (quite
poisonous as it happens) and other vermin are no fun as well. And, if you do find some critter of this nature, KILL IT. Being soft-hearted and releasing it into _your_ environment may make you feel all warm
and fuzzy, but that creature may then cause considerable harm being somewhere it does not belong and where it perhaps has no natural predators. EDIT: Global Warming (whether you believe in it or not) has pushed the Recluse range into southern Maryland – mostly by human transport and not as successful breeding colonies but more and more common, with some few transported by human agency as far as Michigan and Pennsylvania. This is one NASTY spider with a very nasty bite.

2. Evidence of Rodent Inhabitation: Handle with GREAT care.

Hanta-Virus (a relative of Ebola) is endemic throughout the entire United States, Mexico and parts of Canada. It is a disease without effective treatment and an over 50% mortality rate worldwide (36% in
the US). It is carried in the feces and fresh urine of many rodents...and there is limited recent evidence that reconstituted waste (dried but inhaled) will also spread the disease especially if inhaled, a
possibility not accepted in the recent past.

Lyme Disease: Carried by deer ticks that winter over in the white-footed deer mouse (an omnivore, BTW) that will winter over anywhere it can find shelter. The ticks that mice carry will leave the mouse
to lay eggs... perhaps in that radio that served as their temporary winter dorm and latrine. Various other tick-borne diseases include Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, and a whole bunch more *very* nasty diseases not worth risking, are all endemic in the US.

3. Bird Dung & Old Nests: Per a recent paper, there have been over sixty (60) diseases that may be carried in wild bird poop including Avian Flu, Fowl Typhoid, Infectious Coryza, Paratyphoid, Salmonellosis, Schistosomiasis, strep and on-and-on. ((Those of you servicing your Bluebird and other bird houses about now need also keep this in mind.)) Most wild birds are carriers of these diseases and show no visible symptoms. We bleach our birdhouses - THEN we clean them
out. Amazing the number of dead insects and other vermin we get out of them every spring.

Asbestos: Dangerous only when friable - small particles able to become airborne easily. If you are a smoker, even more dangerous. A single (one (1)) fiber can cause a fatal reaction over time – although that actuality is extremely rare and will (usually) take many years. For all that, it is fairly easily made safe with a little bit of care and caution. But even if you do not believe it is dangerous, you do not have the right to expose others, or transport it in conveyances where residual material may come in contact with others - that is, do not transport it openly in the family minivan.

Bottom line: A proverbial ounce of caution beats the hell out of a pound of care. Common sense, rubber gloves, a breathing mask, Lysol, Bleach, Moth-balls, Insecticides (which often do not work on Spiders or Ticks, so read the label), and other elementary precautions conscientiously and carefully applied will "safen" even the nastiest of wild radios.


Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
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Old March 3rd 17, 12:36 PM posted to rec.audio.tubes
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On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 10:32:57 AM UTC-5, Peter Wieck wrote:
> All:
> I have changed the format a bit, and put all the links at the beginning. I am also sending this out a bit earlier than usual by about 2 weeks as we have already experienced multiple days of 75F degree weather here in Pennsylvania, our crocuses are in full bloom, our Forsythia is also in full bloom, and the non-migratory butterflies are out already.
>
> http://www.nwf.org/~/media/PDFs/Glob...hange-WEB.ashx
>
> https://entomology.ca.uky.edu/ef631
>
> https://www.cdc.gov/hantavirus/surveillance/
>
> http://bugguide.net/node/view/475348
>
> https://www.cdc.gov/rodents/diseases/direct.html
>
> https://www.cdc.gov/ncezid/dvbd/
>
> https://ee_ce_img.s3.amazonaws.com/c...02_400_301.jpg
>
> http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/61646.php
> images.radiopaedia.org/images/1827647/6b765cac7f64a5107b54df2e031e12.jpg
>
> Now that there are actual flowers in bloom (Crocus, Forsythia &
> Snowdrop), it is time for the annual post on stalking the wild radio (or other collectible) - and what accidental passengers that may come along with it:
>
> 1. Insects and other arthropods: Anything from spiders to wasps to fleas and more. Any radio that has spent substantial time in a barn, basement, shed, garage or any other damp or exposed area may well be inhabited by or infested with various small and potentially painful critters. Especially those found in the southern states, home to the Brown Recluse and Black Widow spiders. Wasps, centipedes (quite
> poisonous as it happens) and other vermin are no fun as well. And, if you do find some critter of this nature, KILL IT. Being soft-hearted and releasing it into _your_ environment may make you feel all warm
> and fuzzy, but that creature may then cause considerable harm being somewhere it does not belong and where it perhaps has no natural predators. EDIT: Global Warming (whether you believe in it or not) has pushed the Recluse range into southern Maryland – mostly by human transport and not as successful breeding colonies but more and more common, with some few transported by human agency as far as Michigan and Pennsylvania. This is one NASTY spider with a very nasty bite.
>
> 2. Evidence of Rodent Inhabitation: Handle with GREAT care.
>
> Hanta-Virus (a relative of Ebola) is endemic throughout the entire United States, Mexico and parts of Canada. It is a disease without effective treatment and an over 50% mortality rate worldwide (36% in
> the US). It is carried in the feces and fresh urine of many rodents...and there is limited recent evidence that reconstituted waste (dried but inhaled) will also spread the disease especially if inhaled, a
> possibility not accepted in the recent past.
>
> Lyme Disease: Carried by deer ticks that winter over in the white-footed deer mouse (an omnivore, BTW) that will winter over anywhere it can find shelter. The ticks that mice carry will leave the mouse
> to lay eggs... perhaps in that radio that served as their temporary winter dorm and latrine. Various other tick-borne diseases include Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, and a whole bunch more *very* nasty diseases not worth risking, are all endemic in the US.
>
> 3. Bird Dung & Old Nests: Per a recent paper, there have been over sixty (60) diseases that may be carried in wild bird poop including Avian Flu, Fowl Typhoid, Infectious Coryza, Paratyphoid, Salmonellosis, Schistosomiasis, strep and on-and-on. ((Those of you servicing your Bluebird and other bird houses about now need also keep this in mind.)) Most wild birds are carriers of these diseases and show no visible symptoms. We bleach our birdhouses - THEN we clean them
> out. Amazing the number of dead insects and other vermin we get out of them every spring.
>
> Asbestos: Dangerous only when friable - small particles able to become airborne easily. If you are a smoker, even more dangerous. A single (one (1)) fiber can cause a fatal reaction over time – although that actuality is extremely rare and will (usually) take many years. For all that, it is fairly easily made safe with a little bit of care and caution. But even if you do not believe it is dangerous, you do not have the right to expose others, or transport it in conveyances where residual material may come in contact with others - that is, do not transport it openly in the family minivan.
>
> Bottom line: A proverbial ounce of caution beats the hell out of a pound of care. Common sense, rubber gloves, a breathing mask, Lysol, Bleach, Moth-balls, Insecticides (which often do not work on Spiders or Ticks, so read the label), and other elementary precautions conscientiously and carefully applied will "safen" even the nastiest of wild radios.
>
>
> Peter Wieck
> Melrose Park, PA


Thanx Peter, all worth noting. Winter has returned here a bit north of Toronto. There were Robins last week, earliest I've ever seen them here.

One of my ancestors a long way back, Mathias Saunders moved to the Toronto area from Pennsylvania in 1799. He was given a land grant, part of it was still in his family as late as the 1940s. Far as I know, he was Pennsylvania Deutsch. That didn't help much as a studied German as a 2nd language in HS.. But later did come in handy as I worked for Rohde & Schwarz here for 10 years.

Cheers to all, John L Stewart
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Old August 16th 17, 04:36 AM posted to rec.audio.tubes
Big Bad Bob
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On 03/02/17 07:32, Peter Wieck wrote:
> Asbestos: Dangerous only when friable - small particles able to become airborne easily.


along with your other precautions, one trick I've done when working with
asbestos [I did this years ago when I was in the Navy - radioactive
asbestos even!] is to use spray bottles of water help prevent it from
going airborne. So get a spray bottle, fill with water, spray things
down a bit, especially while working with it, and if you must cut it or
in any way make the particles go everywhere, have some kind of
ventilating system that captures it [maybe even a makeshift one built
out of a shop vacuum with a HEPA filter]. But wetting it makes it
clump, so that can help a lot.

So yeah, you don't want that crap getting in your lungs. or anyone
else's lungs. EVAR. Proper air filtration can help a lot. maybe get
industrial type masks or forced air if you want to overdo it a bit...
but a spraypainting mask should be enough, I'd think.


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Old August 16th 17, 01:43 PM posted to rec.audio.tubes
Peter Wieck
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On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 11:36:42 PM UTC-4, Big Bad Bob wrote:
> On 03/02/17 07:32, Peter Wieck wrote:
> > Asbestos: Dangerous only when friable - small particles able to become airborne easily.

>
> along with your other precautions, one trick I've done when working with
> asbestos [I did this years ago when I was in the Navy - radioactive
> asbestos even!] is to use spray bottles of water help prevent it from
> going airborne. So get a spray bottle, fill with water, spray things
> down a bit, especially while working with it, and if you must cut it or
> in any way make the particles go everywhere, have some kind of
> ventilating system that captures it [maybe even a makeshift one built
> out of a shop vacuum with a HEPA filter]. But wetting it makes it
> clump, so that can help a lot.
>
> So yeah, you don't want that crap getting in your lungs. or anyone
> else's lungs. EVAR. Proper air filtration can help a lot. maybe get
> industrial type masks or forced air if you want to overdo it a bit...
> but a spraypainting mask should be enough, I'd think.


One should also add a couple of drops per quart of liquid dish soap to that water as a wetting agent. Otherwise, it might just roll off the asbestos, especially in radios from smoking households or kept in/near cooking.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

 




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