[Efe]

Hi does any one knows if I can mix BOSE AM5 unit with BOSE Panaray
502B. I have Yamaha amp with 800 per channel output and has extra base
unit output. What can I do or need to mix both systems so I can get
much more base than the one comes with AM5.

Thank you in advance.

Efe

[Scott Dorsey]

Efe wrote:
Hi does any one knows if I can mix BOSE AM5 unit with BOSE Panaray
502B. I have Yamaha amp with 800 per channel output and has extra base
unit output. What can I do or need to mix both systems so I can get
much more base than the one comes with AM5.

Throw it all away. You won't ever get anything that approaches actual
bass from those Bose bandpass ****boxes. You get lots of thump, but
it's all at one frequency. Listen to a bass run on a Jaco Pastorius
record on a normal wideband speaker system, and you'll hear him going
up and down the scales. Listen to that same thing on the Bose crap
and you'll hear the same note thumping over and over again.

This is the worst quality consumer trash available, and discussion of
this kind of junk really does not belong in rec.audio.pro.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Scott Dorsey]

Markus Mietling wrote:
Scott Dorsey wrote in :

Listen to a bass run on a Jaco Pastorius
record on a normal wideband speaker system,

Can you recommend any particular record here?

The original self-titled album on Epic is good. The sound quality on the
birthday concert isn't so great, and I never liked the performances on
Word of Mouth myself.

_Moanin'_ by Art Blakey, and also _Art Blakey Live at the Village Vanguard_
also have some great bass performances that I like a lot.

Really anything that has clean bass runs will do. Even Time Out by Dave
Brubeck.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Scott Dorsey]

Markus Mietling wrote:

Well, first and formost you made me curious about this musician as such,
and I didn't want to have to judge an album by its cover.

Oh, man, you need to listen to the first album, then. He's one of my
favorite bass players.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Tom Jancauskas]

in article , Scott Dorsey at
wrote on 2/6/07 12:15 PM:

Well, first and formost you made me curious about this musician as such,
and I didn't want to have to judge an album by its cover.

Oh, man, you need to listen to the first album, then. He's one of my
favorite bass players.

Me too.

Check out Weather Report's "Heavy Weather" and Joni Mitchell "Hejira" for
more good Jaco stuff.


--
Tom Jancauskas
Imedia

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Tom Jancauskas wrote:
: Check out Weather Report's "Heavy Weather" and Joni Mitchell "Hejira" for
: more good Jaco stuff.

And "Trilogue" with Albert Manglesdorff and Alphonze Mouzon, if you're
feeling adventurous...

[Scott Dorsey]

Markus Mietling wrote:

Maybe these could be a sensible recommendation for the original poster?
After all, the 8030 are spec'd to the same lower cutoff frequency as the
Bose 502B "subwoofers" he was inquiring about.

Speakers don't really _have_ a lower cutoff frequency, no matter what the
manual says. They'll still keep reproducing signal at lower and lower
frequencies.... the thing is, the level drops off too, once you're below
the driver and cabinet resonances, and the distortion tends to go up.

Something like the 8030 has usable response an octave, maybe an octave
and a half lower than the -3dB point of the speaker. If you're careful
about placement and use the room resonance to your advantage, you can
usually get considerably better than that.

Something like the 502B is designed to work at one or two frequencies.
As I recall, the 502B has actually two different tuned chambers inside,
both with very sharp resonances. This gives you a lot of thump out of
a small box with small power input. It gives bass that is illusory at
best, and often worse than having no bass at all for mixing purposes.

If you want decent low end in a small box, the 8030 does a pretty decent
job of it. I have really been pleased with the improvement over the old
1000-series Genelecs on both top and bottom end. I seriously doubt the
original poster is willing to invest in the kind of money the 8030 costs,
though. This is a shame.

So few of the average listeners out there have ever even _heard_ good
extended low end, they don't even know what to listen for when they buy.
Convincing them to spend more money for something that has real bass
instead of loud bass is difficult.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Richard Crowley]

"Scott Dorsey" wrote ...
Markus Mietling wrote:
Maybe these could be a sensible recommendation for the original
poster?
After all, the 8030 are spec'd to the same lower cutoff frequency as
the
Bose 502B "subwoofers" he was inquiring about.

Speakers don't really _have_ a lower cutoff frequency, no matter what
the
manual says. They'll still keep reproducing signal at lower and lower
frequencies....

All the way down to DC (zero Hz).

the thing is, the level drops off too,

If you had a subwoofer properly coupled to your listening
room and hermetically sealed, you could control the barametic
pressure with the DC bias on the power amplifier. :-)

Anybody remember the guy who built his listening room
essentially in the end of an enormous concrete subwoofer
horn?

And then there was Burwen whose "speaker wall" was the
business-end of three enormous horns, etc.
http://www.burwenaudio.com/sitebuild...IO-810x548.jpg