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Tubes & SS
When I was young I had tubes and liked them.
I got older and got SS and liked it too. Now, even older I can no longer hear the difference so I like them both. Ghost |
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On Dec 13, 3:35 pm, ":-:Ghost Chip:-:" wrote:
When I was young I had tubes and liked them. I got older and got SS and liked it too. Now, even older I can no longer hear the difference so I like them both. Ghost You know, this post is a lot like throwing chum into a pool full of sharks :-). |
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fryzz wrote:
On Dec 13, 3:35 pm, ":-:Ghost Chip:-:" wrote: When I was young I had tubes and liked them. I got older and got SS and liked it too. Now, even older I can no longer hear the difference so I like them both. Ghost You know, this post is a lot like throwing chum into a pool full of sharks :-). With age comes wisdom. Jan |
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On Dec 14, 3:14*pm, Jan wrote:
fryzz wrote: On Dec 13, 3:35 pm, ":-:Ghost Chip:-:" wrote: When I was young I had tubes and liked them. I got older and got SS and liked it too. Now, even older I can no longer hear the difference so I like them both. Ghost You know, this post is a lot like throwing chum into a pool full of sharks :-). With age comes wisdom. Jan The smart guys will stay out of this. I'm not smart -- yet! Andre Jute Visit Jute on Amps at http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/ "wonderfully well written and reasoned information for the tube audio constructor" John Broskie TubeCAD & GlassWare "an unbelievably comprehensive web site containing vital gems of wisdom" Stuart Perry Hi-Fi News & Record Review |
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Jan wrote: fryzz wrote: On Dec 13, 3:35 pm, ":-:Ghost Chip:-:" wrote: When I was young I had tubes and liked them. I got older and got SS and liked it too. Now, even older I can no longer hear the difference so I like them both. Ghost You know, this post is a lot like throwing chum into a pool full of sharks :-). With age comes wisdom. Well, you are optimistic. There are indeed ppl whose wisdom increases as their ability to play baseball diminishes. There is a lucky tiny minority who play chess better at 60 than at 40, and 40 BTW is merely a jack sprat whippersnapper of a bloke, a todler among wise old octogenarians, many of whom are wise enough to stay away from a chessboard because it'll lead to a loss against some young twerp. And since 80 yo hearing ain't what it use to be, it could be pointless to discuss tubes and transistors, and maybe they won't know how to email you a reply about anything. Wisdom is a bit like a hard on. You just can't keep it up for ever, and sooner or later, you have a very good chance of going quite daft as you get older, and or your ageing either makes your personality better like some wines improve if cellared, or you just turn into a sour old *******, like a bottle full of vinegar. Have ye not met a few 60 yr olds who have completely forgetten how to build a nice simple gees-its-great tride amp? What they knew at 30 has been lost. As you age, tell yourself to get wiser each day, OK, and if yer don't, yer won't get wiser, yer'll get dumber. So stay healthy with a few challenges outside the comfort zone. Chuck out the bull**** you had at 30, but please hang onto the good bits........of your mind that is. As a man ages, his mind should move above his waist. Patrick Turner. Jan |
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It's not either tubes or solid state these days - DACs have tube
outputs and valve amps are stuffed full of solid state parts. Ironic that you can still get great sound from a 1920s tube like the 01A, and the way to do it is with a filament supply full of solid state parts like LM1086 voltage regs. andy |
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On 16 Dec, 23:34, Andy Evans wrote:
It's not either tubes or solid state these days - DACs have tube outputs and valve amps are stuffed full of solid state parts. Ironic that you can still get great sound from a 1920s tube like the 01A, and the way to do it is with a filament supply full of solid state parts like LM1086 voltage regs. andy When I was younger and first starting my interest in electricity (this came before girls and after falling from trees and setting my mates on fire whilst digging tunnels). My grandfather, who was born during the first war and in the Signals in the second, gave me a valve radio and a load of my fathers books. My father seems to disown the books, but not the radio. Anyway, my grandfather is still about and I dont think anything I have done he hasnt done before. We are in a very pleasant situation. We have the option of nice current sinks/sources. We can use switch mode supplies. We can even god forbid use FETs as buffers. Hmmmm Matt. |
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Patrick Turner wrote:
Jan wrote: fryzz wrote: On Dec 13, 3:35 pm, ":-:Ghost Chip:-:" wrote: When I was young I had tubes and liked them. I got older and got SS and liked it too. Now, even older I can no longer hear the difference so I like them both. Ghost You know, this post is a lot like throwing chum into a pool full of sharks :-). With age comes wisdom. Well, you are optimistic. There are indeed ppl whose wisdom increases as their ability to play baseball diminishes. There is a lucky tiny minority who play chess better at 60 than at 40, and 40 BTW is merely a jack sprat whippersnapper of a bloke, a todler among wise old octogenarians, many of whom are wise enough to stay away from a chessboard because it'll lead to a loss against some young twerp. And since 80 yo hearing ain't what it use to be, it could be pointless to discuss tubes and transistors, and maybe they won't know how to email you a reply about anything. Wisdom is a bit like a hard on. You just can't keep it up for ever, and sooner or later, you have a very good chance of going quite daft as you get older, and or your ageing either makes your personality better like some wines improve if cellared, or you just turn into a sour old *******, like a bottle full of vinegar. "Wisdom" is just accrued experience and knowledge so, in theory, it should increase throughout life or at least until you start losing your marbles. There are those however who either cannot or will not learn from experience and are doomed to keep smacking their heads against the same old brick wall for life. Have ye not met a few 60 yr olds who have completely forgetten how to build a nice simple gees-its-great tride amp? What they knew at 30 has been lost. As you age, tell yourself to get wiser each day, OK, and if yer don't, yer won't get wiser, yer'll get dumber. So stay healthy with a few challenges outside the comfort zone. Chuck out the bull**** you had at 30, but please hang onto the good bits........of your mind that is. There is a bunch of stuff that I knew at 30 which I don't know now. It is simply what was important then is not important any more. The only way to keep all the old knowledge is not to progress to anything new. A manager that I once worked for told me that he remembered the entire instruction set of an ancient mainframe that we had both worked on 10 years before. "I suppose that you can too" he said, I had to tell him that I couldn't recall a single instruction. The reason was that he had become a manager in the mean time and had never worked on a machine since, on the other hand, I'd worked on 2 more generations of machines and had no reason to remember it. As a man ages, his mind should move above his waist. That is a natural consequence of aging for most of us, but it is nice to take a dive back below now and again. Patrick Turner. Jan |
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Keithr wrote: Patrick Turner wrote: Jan wrote: fryzz wrote: On Dec 13, 3:35 pm, ":-:Ghost Chip:-:" wrote: When I was young I had tubes and liked them. I got older and got SS and liked it too. Now, even older I can no longer hear the difference so I like them both. Ghost You know, this post is a lot like throwing chum into a pool full of sharks :-). With age comes wisdom. Well, you are optimistic. There are indeed ppl whose wisdom increases as their ability to play baseball diminishes. There is a lucky tiny minority who play chess better at 60 than at 40, and 40 BTW is merely a jack sprat whippersnapper of a bloke, a todler among wise old octogenarians, many of whom are wise enough to stay away from a chessboard because it'll lead to a loss against some young twerp. And since 80 yo hearing ain't what it use to be, it could be pointless to discuss tubes and transistors, and maybe they won't know how to email you a reply about anything. Wisdom is a bit like a hard on. You just can't keep it up for ever, and sooner or later, you have a very good chance of going quite daft as you get older, and or your ageing either makes your personality better like some wines improve if cellared, or you just turn into a sour old *******, like a bottle full of vinegar. "Wisdom" is just accrued experience and knowledge so, in theory, it should increase throughout life or at least until you start losing your marbles. There are those however who either cannot or will not learn from experience and are doomed to keep smacking their heads against the same old brick wall for life. Have ye not met a few 60 yr olds who have completely forgetten how to build a nice simple gees-its-great tride amp? What they knew at 30 has been lost. As you age, tell yourself to get wiser each day, OK, and if yer don't, yer won't get wiser, yer'll get dumber. So stay healthy with a few challenges outside the comfort zone. Chuck out the bull**** you had at 30, but please hang onto the good bits........of your mind that is. There is a bunch of stuff that I knew at 30 which I don't know now. It is simply what was important then is not important any more. The only way to keep all the old knowledge is not to progress to anything new. A manager that I once worked for told me that he remembered the entire instruction set of an ancient mainframe that we had both worked on 10 years before. "I suppose that you can too" he said, I had to tell him that I couldn't recall a single instruction. The reason was that he had become a manager in the mean time and had never worked on a machine since, on the other hand, I'd worked on 2 more generations of machines and had no reason to remember it. As a man ages, his mind should move above his waist. That is a natural consequence of aging for most of us, but it is nice to take a dive back below now and again. But only if you function and you find a woman still capable of functioning. Otherwise its like diving into a swimming pool at the deep end, without any water there. Your knowledge about swimming is useless. You soon learn to make face saving moves. Patrick Turner. Patrick Turner. Jan |
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Keithr wrote:
"Wisdom" is just accrued experience and knowledge so, in theory, it should increase throughout life or at least until you start losing your marbles. There are those however who either cannot or will not learn from experience and are doomed to keep smacking their heads against the same old brick wall for life. No, wisdom is the ability to apply that accrued experience and knowledge to new situations. Cheers Ian |
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"Ian Bell" wrote in message ... Keithr wrote: "Wisdom" is just accrued experience and knowledge so, in theory, it should increase throughout life or at least until you start losing your marbles. There are those however who either cannot or will not learn from experience and are doomed to keep smacking their heads against the same old brick wall for life. No, wisdom is the ability to apply that accrued experience and knowledge to new situations. Cheers Ian Years ago my father told me "Wisdom comes from experience and experience comes from poor judgment." It seems we remember the lessons longer if they come from our own hard knocks. Ghost |
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:-:Ghost Chip:-: wrote:
"Ian Bell" wrote in message ... Keithr wrote: "Wisdom" is just accrued experience and knowledge so, in theory, it should increase throughout life or at least until you start losing your marbles. There are those however who either cannot or will not learn from experience and are doomed to keep smacking their heads against the same old brick wall for life. No, wisdom is the ability to apply that accrued experience and knowledge to new situations. Cheers Ian Years ago my father told me "Wisdom comes from experience and experience comes from poor judgment." It seems we remember the lessons longer if they come from our own hard knocks. Ghost My boss many years ago once said, the only people who do not make mistakes are the people who are not doing anything. Cheers ian |
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flipper wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:08:43 -0700, ":-:Ghost Chip:-:" wrote: "Ian Bell" wrote in message ... Keithr wrote: "Wisdom" is just accrued experience and knowledge so, in theory, it should increase throughout life or at least until you start losing your marbles. There are those however who either cannot or will not learn from experience and are doomed to keep smacking their heads against the same old brick wall for life. No, wisdom is the ability to apply that accrued experience and knowledge to new situations. Cheers Ian Years ago my father told me "Wisdom comes from experience and experience comes from poor judgment." It seems we remember the lessons longer if they come from our own hard knocks. Ghost "Witticisms" are usually meant to emphasis a particular aspect of something but, because they're also usually 'short', seldom sufficient to encompass the totality of a complex subject. I suspect your father was trying to emphasis the learning one derives from mistakes (fits a modesty model) but, IMO, Ian is correct in saying wisdom means the ability to apply the lessons one hopefully learns from the experience. Of course, then there's the problem of whether one learned the 'correct' lesson or 'unwisely' came to a faulty conclusion. Indeed, and there's that other old adage about experience. I have 20 years experience, said the interviewee. Is that 20 years of different experience or one year's experience repeated 20 times?, asked the interviewer. Cheers Ian |
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