[Andre Jute[_2_]]

Arsehole in a big fourwheel drive cuts across me at a T-junction. He
passes within an inch of my front wheel, so I say into the open
sunroof, "Watch what you do, moron."

The 4WD screeches to a halt and the door slams open, presumably so the
fellow can come ask me who I'm calling a moron. Feet appear as I ride
around the back of the thing, wondering if I should turn the other way
and go home for an aperitif, or stop and cut the dumb ******* down to
nothing or, if he is even more stupid and actually strikes me, teach
him about the kindness of strangers in white uniforms bearing
morphine in the middle of the night.

Just as I come his door, a hand clamps on his collar and jerks him
back into the car. An extremely large lady swats the back of his head,
then smiles engagingly at me over his shoulder. "He's like that. I'm
sorry, mister."

"You're a bit of all right," I said graciously. "A woman's work is
never done, eh?" And I rode on.

She didn't look like she needed any help cutting him down to size!

That was Friday, and I'm still laughing. Every time I see that jerk on
the roads, i'll grab the back of my collar and make a strangled face.
He'll never come near me again!

Andre Jute
Conditioning

[Jeff[_8_]]

*groan*
eye's rolling



On Sun, 17 May 2009 18:10:37 -0400, Andre Jute wrote:

Arsehole in a big fourwheel drive cuts across me at a T-junction. He
passes within an inch of my front wheel, so I say into the open
sunroof, "Watch what you do, moron."

The 4WD screeches to a halt and the door slams open, presumably so the
fellow can come ask me who I'm calling a moron. Feet appear as I ride
around the back of the thing, wondering if I should turn the other way
and go home for an aperitif, or stop and cut the dumb ******* down to
nothing or, if he is even more stupid and actually strikes me, teach
him about the kindness of strangers in white uniforms bearing
morphine in the middle of the night.

Just as I come his door, a hand clamps on his collar and jerks him
back into the car. An extremely large lady swats the back of his head,
then smiles engagingly at me over his shoulder. "He's like that. I'm
sorry, mister."

"You're a bit of all right," I said graciously. "A woman's work is
never done, eh?" And I rode on.

She didn't look like she needed any help cutting him down to size!

That was Friday, and I'm still laughing. Every time I see that jerk on
the roads, i'll grab the back of my collar and make a strangled face.
He'll never come near me again!

Andre Jute
Conditioning



--
Jesla

Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

[Andre Jute[_2_]]

On May 17, 11:24*pm, Jeff wrote:
* * *groan*
eye's rolling

WTF is this Jessie Jeff jerk who thinks that after posting a handful
of times on RAT in three months, he can come throw his epilectic fits
here?

Andre Jute
Never more brutal than he has to be -- Nelson Mandela


On Sun, 17 May 2009 18:10:37 -0400, Andre Jute wrote:
Arsehole in a big fourwheel drive cuts across me at a T-junction. He
passes within an inch of my front wheel, so I say into the open
sunroof, "Watch what you do, moron."

The 4WD screeches to a halt and the door slams open, presumably so the
fellow can come ask me who I'm calling a moron. Feet appear as I ride
around the back of the thing, wondering if I should turn the other way
and go home for an aperitif, or stop and cut the dumb ******* down to
nothing or, if he is even more stupid and actually strikes me, teach
him about the kindness of strangers in white uniforms bearing
morphine in the middle of the night.

Just as I come his door, a hand clamps on his collar and jerks him
back into the car. An extremely large lady swats the back of his head,
then smiles engagingly at me over his shoulder. "He's like that. I'm
sorry, mister."

"You're a bit of all right," I said graciously. "A woman's work is
never done, eh?" And I rode on.

She didn't look like she needed any help cutting him down to size!

That was Friday, and I'm still laughing. Every time I see that jerk on
the roads, i'll grab the back of my collar and make a strangled face.
He'll never come near me again!

Andre Jute
Conditioning

--
Jesla

Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client:http://www.opera.com/mail/

[Andre Jute[_2_]]

Sorry about misposting this. Zero interest to RAT soldersniffers
except to Patrick, who can follow it or contribute over on
rec.bikes.tech. -- AJ


On May 17, 11:10*pm, Andre Jute wrote:
Arsehole in a big fourwheel drive cuts across me at a T-junction.

Etc.

[Jeff[_8_]]

Your absolutely correct I don't post often but I have been reading this
News group for over fifteen years. So go ahead.... play your game, I've
seen it all before.


On Sun, 17 May 2009 18:44:58 -0400, Andre Jute wrote:

On May 17, 11:24*pm, Jeff wrote:
* * *groan*
eye's rolling

WTF is this Jessie Jeff jerk who thinks that after posting a handful
of times on RAT in three months, he can come throw his epilectic fits
here?

Andre Jute
Never more brutal than he has to be -- Nelson Mandela


On Sun, 17 May 2009 18:10:37 -0400, Andre Jute
wrote:
Arsehole in a big fourwheel drive cuts across me at a T-junction. He
passes within an inch of my front wheel, so I say into the open
sunroof, "Watch what you do, moron."

The 4WD screeches to a halt and the door slams open, presumably so the
fellow can come ask me who I'm calling a moron. Feet appear as I ride
around the back of the thing, wondering if I should turn the other way
and go home for an aperitif, or stop and cut the dumb ******* down to
nothing or, if he is even more stupid and actually strikes me, teach
him about the kindness of strangers in white uniforms bearing
morphine in the middle of the night.

Just as I come his door, a hand clamps on his collar and jerks him
back into the car. An extremely large lady swats the back of his head,
then smiles engagingly at me over his shoulder. "He's like that. I'm
sorry, mister."

"You're a bit of all right," I said graciously. "A woman's work is
never done, eh?" And I rode on.

She didn't look like she needed any help cutting him down to size!

That was Friday, and I'm still laughing. Every time I see that jerk on
the roads, i'll grab the back of my collar and make a strangled face.
He'll never come near me again!

Andre Jute
Conditioning

--
Jesla

Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client:http://www.opera.com/mail/




--
Jesla

Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

[Andre Jute[_2_]]

On May 17, 11:49*pm, Jeff wrote:
Your absolutely correct I don't post often but I have been reading this *
News group for over fifteen years.

Then you should display better manners, sonny, or at least a modicum
of common sense.

So go ahead.... play your game, I've *
seen it all before.

What game? You're the one "groaning" (with emphasis) and "rolling
eyes" (with different emphasis) like a clown in a circus trying to
draw the audience in.

I merely asked, "WTF makes this Jessie Jeff jerk think he can turn RAT
into his very own toilet?"

We still don't have an answer. So tell us, Jessie Jeff, Jerk, what
makes you think RAT is the venue for your epileptic fits? Do you next
start foaming at the mouth?

Andre Jute
Relentless rigour -- Gaius Germanicus Caesar

On Sun, 17 May 2009 18:44:58 -0400, Andre Jute wrote:
On May 17, 11:24*pm, Jeff wrote:
* * *groan*
eye's rolling

WTF is this Jessie Jeff jerk who thinks that after posting a handful
of times on RAT in three months, he can come throw his epilectic fits
here?

Andre Jute
*Never more brutal than he has to be -- Nelson Mandela

On Sun, 17 May 2009 18:10:37 -0400, Andre Jute *
wrote:
Arsehole in a big fourwheel drive cuts across me at a T-junction. He
passes within an inch of my front wheel, so I say into the open
sunroof, "Watch what you do, moron."

The 4WD screeches to a halt and the door slams open, presumably so the
fellow can come ask me who I'm calling a moron. Feet appear as I ride
around the back of the thing, wondering if I should turn the other way
and go home for an aperitif, or stop and cut the dumb ******* down to
nothing or, if he is even more stupid and actually strikes me, teach
him about the kindness of strangers in white uniforms bearing
morphine in the middle of the night.

Just as I come his door, a hand clamps on his collar and jerks him
back into the car. An extremely large lady swats the back of his head,
then smiles engagingly at me over his shoulder. "He's like that. I'm
sorry, mister."

"You're a bit of all right," I said graciously. "A woman's work is
never done, eh?" And I rode on.

She didn't look like she needed any help cutting him down to size!

That was Friday, and I'm still laughing. Every time I see that jerk on
the roads, i'll grab the back of my collar and make a strangled face..
He'll never come near me again!

Andre Jute
Conditioning

--
Jesla

Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client:http://www.opera.com/mail/

--
Jesla

Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client:http://www.opera.com/mail/

[Mark Harriss]

Andre Jute wrote:
Arsehole in a big fourwheel drive cuts across me at a T-junction. He
passes within an inch of my front wheel, so I say into the open
sunroof, "Watch what you do, moron."

The 4WD screeches to a halt and the door slams open, presumably so the
fellow can come ask me who I'm calling a moron. Feet appear as I ride
around the back of the thing, wondering if I should turn the other way
and go home for an aperitif, or stop and cut the dumb ******* down to
nothing or, if he is even more stupid and actually strikes me, teach
him about the kindness of strangers in white uniforms bearing
morphine in the middle of the night.

Just as I come his door, a hand clamps on his collar and jerks him
back into the car. An extremely large lady swats the back of his head,
then smiles engagingly at me over his shoulder. "He's like that. I'm
sorry, mister."

"You're a bit of all right," I said graciously. "A woman's work is
never done, eh?" And I rode on.

She didn't look like she needed any help cutting him down to size!

That was Friday, and I'm still laughing. Every time I see that jerk on
the roads, i'll grab the back of my collar and make a strangled face.
He'll never come near me again!

Andre Jute
Conditioning


One wonders about what paths the World at large would have taken
had the path of the vehicle been a few feet either way.

[[email protected]]

On May 17, 8:19*pm, Mark Harriss wrote:

* * One wonders about what paths the World at large would have taken
had the path of the vehicle been a few feet either way.

A complete miss or a 100% impact-at-speed could only have improved the
situation.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

[PeterD]

On Sun, 17 May 2009 15:48:00 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute
wrote:

Sorry about misposting this. Zero interest to RAT soldersniffers
except to Patrick, who can follow it or contribute over on
rec.bikes.tech. -- AJ


Hey, I bike too... And I laughed!


On May 17, 11:10*pm, Andre Jute wrote:
Arsehole in a big fourwheel drive cuts across me at a T-junction.

Etc.

[[email protected]]

On May 18, 8:43*am, PeterD wrote:

Hey, I bike too... And I laughed!

Generally, I have great respect for bikers and the courage
(foolhardiness?) they display on a daily basis - but although we have
no big, honking SUVs, the curb-weigths of our three are 3620, 3699 and
5106 pounds respectively - the VW Camper is not a daily driver. About
all that the likes of Andre could do even on his vastly overpriced
machine would be to scratch the paint a bit.

Street-bikers are a bit like store owners and cars are a bit like
their customers - whether the customer is right or wrong, they are
still 'right' when it comes to weight, speed, and results. Interesting
that Andre should need to be 'rescued' by a woman. It would have made
a better story if he finessed the fight with threats of having killed
men with his thumbs... If the confrontation took place at all. Nor was
the post here any mistake, of course.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

[Antitroll]

"Andre Jute" wrote in message
...
Arsehole in a big fourwheel drive cuts across me at a T-junction. He
passes within an inch of my front wheel, so I say into the open
sunroof, "Watch what you do, moron."

The 4WD screeches to a halt and the door slams open, presumably so the
fellow can come ask me who I'm calling a moron. Feet appear as I ride
around the back of the thing, wondering if I should turn the other way
and go home for an aperitif, or stop and cut the dumb ******* down to
nothing or, if he is even more stupid and actually strikes me, teach
him about the kindness of strangers in white uniforms bearing
morphine in the middle of the night.

Just as I come his door, a hand clamps on his collar and jerks him
back into the car. An extremely large lady swats the back of his head,
then smiles engagingly at me over his shoulder. "He's like that. I'm
sorry, mister."

"You're a bit of all right," I said graciously. "A woman's work is
never done, eh?" And I rode on.

She didn't look like she needed any help cutting him down to size!

That was Friday, and I'm still laughing. Every time I see that jerk on
the roads, i'll grab the back of my collar and make a strangled face.
He'll never come near me again!

Andre Jute
Conditioning

To all RAT's. The above Jute-o-gram was also posted to rec.bicycles.tech where I
made the following observation:-
Poor ol' Juteau Fruteau. For some reason he's suddenly seized by the desire to
show that he's still The Bandon Hard Man.
I'll help him along by reposting another of his tales of combat with the
homicidal drivers of West Cork.

"to avoid a motorist
speeding through a stop sign at a multiway junction, I went up the
wheelchair access to a pavement (sidewalk to the Americans), clipped
the angled part and was sent into the air, bike and all. The front
wheel stuck momentarily in a palings fence, and then bike and I went
over, ten or twelve feet into the air. My judo came back to me from
decades ago and I rolled over my forearm, mainly to protect my new
Metro helmet and mirror. This was such a spectacular accident that
people came running from stopped cars and a nearby pavement cafe, but
my jacket wasn't even scuffed and the only harm done to me was a
broken little finger where the bike handle came down on it; several
hundred euro of scratched HRM and bike computer and the Flight Deck
control, all on the handlebars; fortunately no bent wheel (Keith
Bontrager builds them strong!) which might have been a nuisance. The
driver got away on the day but I found him a couple of weeks later; he
won't be stupid ever again."

In another version posted only a month or so later he DOESN'T catch up with the
offending driver..

"In this incident another rider, of my age, would have been dead.
Because of the circumstances of my life, my reflexes are several
tenths of a second faster than his, and my awareness of threat in my
surroundings magnitudes higher than his. As it was, people came
running from a nearby bar and from stopping cars. They thought I was a
goner as I came down from about ten or twelve feet headfirst towards
the tarmac. But in midair I decided to sacrifice the bike and parted
from it, after which I just took a breakfall, rolling over my forearm
to protect my helmet and helmet-mirror -- and that is when the bike
came down on my little finger; I misjudged where it would fall by an
inch. Otherwise there wasn't a scratch or a bruise on me, or even a
scuffmark on my clothes. When I catch up on that driver, he'll be in
pain for a very long time."

[Antitroll]

"Andre Jute" wrote in message
...
a whole lot of OT bull

The following FAQ is currently being posted twice weekly to rec.bicycles.tech
along with a feature called Andre Jute Great Lie From The Past (AJGLFTP). The
name of AJGLFTP is self-explanatory. The FAQ is open source so anyone who wishes
to add to it and repost it wherever necessary is welcome to it.
The Andre Jute FAQ v1.1

Q: Why a Jute FAQ?

A: To save newbies and casual visitors to RBT from wasting a lot of time on a
serial troll.

Q: Who is Andre Jute anyway?

A: The only things known with reasonable certainty is that he was born in
Oudtshoorn, South Africa in 1945 and, beginning in the 1980's he wrote and
published a succession of books.

Q: What sort of books?

A: A number of thrillers, now all out of print and a number of "how to" manuals
on writing, special automobile design and graphic design.

Q: Are the books any good?

A: No.

Q: Isn't that just your opinion?

A: If you don't want to believe me search www.abebooks.com under Andre Jute or
his pen-name Andrew McCoy and buy some second-hand copies for yourself.

Q: He seems like a very knowledgeable and experienced cyclist. What's not to
like?

A: He has lots of opinions; all calculated to prove that his current bicycle is
the best of all possible bicycles and that anyone who likes a different sort of
bike or a different sort of cycling is a fashion victim and a fool.

Q: What sort of bike does he ride?

A: Irrelevant to this FAQ. It changes from time to time but each one is the
greatest bike ever and the only one anybody of discerning taste would ride.

Q: Can't you give us a hint?

A: Oh all right! Four years ago it was a Dutch city bike clunker. Two years ago
it was a Trek comfort bike with Shimano Nexus automatic hub. Now it's a
forty-five pound German mixte with Rohloff hub and huge tyres.

Q: I see Andre Jute refer to incidents in an adventurous life from time to time.
Surely he's a man of great talent and wide experience?

A: There is absolutely no independent confirmation of any of Jute's claims about
what he's built or what he's done. He is a fluent liar with a certain basic
competence in the English language so it is safe to say that any biographical
details he lets drop are the product of a fantastic imagination.

Q: What about his book "Designing and Building Special Cars"? He says that book
was once placed in the hands of every junior engineer starting at a major US car
manufacturer.

A: It changes. One minute it's the Bible of every junior engineer, the next
minute Jute made millions licensing it as a promotional giveaway for some
un-named chain of US car parts stores. If you actually read it, it is full of
cut-and-paste design information that could have been culled from anywhere and
generic photos from special car builders. There are no photographs of any of
Jute's supposed builds in progress and no evidence that Jute himself has ever
approached a car with welding torch in hand.

Q. What does he do on RBT that's so awful?

A. He's a sad case, desperately wanting to be taken seriously as a cycling
enthusiast but unable to refrain from throwing up thread topics that are obvious
flame bait. Sometimes he presents himself as a humble novice anxious to learn.
At other times he pretends to expertise though his facts are often plain wrong.
To anyone who questions the truth of what he says he is variously patronizing or
offensive. In any event, he exhibits the most revealing mark of a troll, which
is never, ever to admit to error.

Q: What's wrong with trolling? Isn't it just a bit of gentle fun at the expense
of the stuffed shirts on a newsgroup?

A: It can be very damaging to the utility and enjoyment of an information and
discussion group when a prolific troll attempts to make the group revolve around
him. Andre Jute spent fifteen years doing it on various tube audio forums and he's
attempting it again on RBT.
Here's an academics take on trolling.
"Trolling is a game about identity deception, albeit one that is played without
the consent of most of the players. The troll attempts to pass as a legitimate
participant, sharing the group's common interests and concerns; the newsgroups
members, if they are cognizant of trolls and other identity deceptions, attempt
to both distinguish real from trolling postings, and upon judging a poster a
troll, make the offending poster leave the group. Their success at the former
depends on how well they - and the troll - understand identity cues; their
success at the latter depends on whether the troll's enjoyment is sufficiently
diminished or outweighed by the costs imposed by the group. "

For more start at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

Q: Why not just killfile him?

A: Many do. However, if you don't have a newsreader that kills entire threads
you will see posts from readers who insist on replying to him and it makes the
newsgroup look untidy.

Q: Why not just have a bit of fun needling him?

A: Sure, if you have a thick skin and can tolerate lies and being called
everything from an ignoramus to a chronic masturbator. Be warned however, you
will not "win".

An obsessive troll like Jute has many tactics to ensure that they emerge
victorious, ranging from introducing red herrings to simply announcing that they
have "won" and retiring. If you are an experienced user you can enjoy
identifying each tactic and even pointing them out. However, you won't stop him
and you may gain a reputation as a troll yourself for encouraging him.

Q: Is Andre Jute mentally ill?

A: Who knows? It's a futile business doing amateur psychiatric diagnosis over
the Internet and what would be the point? Some have suggested Munchausens
syndrome but that's not exactly the invention of tall tales to gain attention.
Narcissistic personality disorder might be more on the money. Again, what's the
point? Especially when the literature reports that clinical treatment of NPD
does not work well anyway.

Q: Won't having a FAQ about him only reinforce Jute's opinion that he's a very
important personality on Usenet?

A: That's the risk we take. On balance, it's worthwhile warning newcomers to the
group about him.

[Lord Valve]

Q: How is it that Jute owns some poor assholes so completely they write thousands
of words about him?

A: It is the destiny of assholes to be owned. In fact, a convincing argument
can be mounted that they are uncomfortable in the extreme without chains
of some sort, or at least without an object on which to focus their worship.

Lord Valve
People's Republic of Obamastan
(Occupied United States of God Damn America)
BaaaaaarrrrrRRRRAAAACCCCCCKKK!! Safety!!

One
Big
Ass
Mistake,
America!

http://tinyurl.com/cv4mbm


Anothertroll wrote:

"Andre Jute" wrote in message
...
a whole lot of OT bull

The following FAQ is currently being posted twice weekly to rec.bicycles.tech
along with a feature called Andre Jute Great Lie From The Past (AJGLFTP). The
name of AJGLFTP is self-explanatory. The FAQ is open source so anyone who wishes
to add to it and repost it wherever necessary is welcome to it.
The Andre Jute FAQ v1.1

Q: Why a Jute FAQ?

A: To save newbies and casual visitors to RBT from wasting a lot of time on a
serial troll.

Q: Who is Andre Jute anyway?

A: The only things known with reasonable certainty is that he was born in
Oudtshoorn, South Africa in 1945 and, beginning in the 1980's he wrote and
published a succession of books.

Q: What sort of books?

A: A number of thrillers, now all out of print and a number of "how to" manuals
on writing, special automobile design and graphic design.

Q: Are the books any good?

A: No.

Q: Isn't that just your opinion?

A: If you don't want to believe me search www.abebooks.com under Andre Jute or
his pen-name Andrew McCoy and buy some second-hand copies for yourself.

Q: He seems like a very knowledgeable and experienced cyclist. What's not to
like?

A: He has lots of opinions; all calculated to prove that his current bicycle is
the best of all possible bicycles and that anyone who likes a different sort of
bike or a different sort of cycling is a fashion victim and a fool.

Q: What sort of bike does he ride?

A: Irrelevant to this FAQ. It changes from time to time but each one is the
greatest bike ever and the only one anybody of discerning taste would ride.

Q: Can't you give us a hint?

A: Oh all right! Four years ago it was a Dutch city bike clunker. Two years ago
it was a Trek comfort bike with Shimano Nexus automatic hub. Now it's a
forty-five pound German mixte with Rohloff hub and huge tyres.

Q: I see Andre Jute refer to incidents in an adventurous life from time to time.
Surely he's a man of great talent and wide experience?

A: There is absolutely no independent confirmation of any of Jute's claims about
what he's built or what he's done. He is a fluent liar with a certain basic
competence in the English language so it is safe to say that any biographical
details he lets drop are the product of a fantastic imagination.

Q: What about his book "Designing and Building Special Cars"? He says that book
was once placed in the hands of every junior engineer starting at a major US car
manufacturer.

A: It changes. One minute it's the Bible of every junior engineer, the next
minute Jute made millions licensing it as a promotional giveaway for some
un-named chain of US car parts stores. If you actually read it, it is full of
cut-and-paste design information that could have been culled from anywhere and
generic photos from special car builders. There are no photographs of any of
Jute's supposed builds in progress and no evidence that Jute himself has ever
approached a car with welding torch in hand.

Q. What does he do on RBT that's so awful?

A. He's a sad case, desperately wanting to be taken seriously as a cycling
enthusiast but unable to refrain from throwing up thread topics that are obvious
flame bait. Sometimes he presents himself as a humble novice anxious to learn.
At other times he pretends to expertise though his facts are often plain wrong.
To anyone who questions the truth of what he says he is variously patronizing or
offensive. In any event, he exhibits the most revealing mark of a troll, which
is never, ever to admit to error.

Q: What's wrong with trolling? Isn't it just a bit of gentle fun at the expense
of the stuffed shirts on a newsgroup?

A: It can be very damaging to the utility and enjoyment of an information and
discussion group when a prolific troll attempts to make the group revolve around
him. Andre Jute spent fifteen years doing it on various tube audio forums and he's
attempting it again on RBT.
Here's an academics take on trolling.
"Trolling is a game about identity deception, albeit one that is played without
the consent of most of the players. The troll attempts to pass as a legitimate
participant, sharing the group's common interests and concerns; the newsgroups
members, if they are cognizant of trolls and other identity deceptions, attempt
to both distinguish real from trolling postings, and upon judging a poster a
troll, make the offending poster leave the group. Their success at the former
depends on how well they - and the troll - understand identity cues; their
success at the latter depends on whether the troll's enjoyment is sufficiently
diminished or outweighed by the costs imposed by the group. "

For more start at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

Q: Why not just killfile him?

A: Many do. However, if you don't have a newsreader that kills entire threads
you will see posts from readers who insist on replying to him and it makes the
newsgroup look untidy.

Q: Why not just have a bit of fun needling him?

A: Sure, if you have a thick skin and can tolerate lies and being called
everything from an ignoramus to a chronic masturbator. Be warned however, you
will not "win".

An obsessive troll like Jute has many tactics to ensure that they emerge
victorious, ranging from introducing red herrings to simply announcing that they
have "won" and retiring. If you are an experienced user you can enjoy
identifying each tactic and even pointing them out. However, you won't stop him
and you may gain a reputation as a troll yourself for encouraging him.

Q: Is Andre Jute mentally ill?

A: Who knows? It's a futile business doing amateur psychiatric diagnosis over
the Internet and what would be the point? Some have suggested Munchausens
syndrome but that's not exactly the invention of tall tales to gain attention.
Narcissistic personality disorder might be more on the money. Again, what's the
point? Especially when the literature reports that clinical treatment of NPD
does not work well anyway.

Q: Won't having a FAQ about him only reinforce Jute's opinion that he's a very
important personality on Usenet?

A: That's the risk we take. On balance, it's worthwhile warning newcomers to the
group about him.

[[email protected]]

A lot of work went into this. Are you sure you are not his alter-ego?
I admit to finding him great fun to poke - and his pose alternating
between injured virginity and urbane thuggery is vastly amusing in a
macabre sort of way - but you verge on obsession, perhaps? Jute is
utterly transparent and utterly predictable - and as such does not
merit such efforts. Unless, of course, additional notice and attention
(upon which he thrives) is required?

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

[Antitroll]

wrote in message
...
A lot of work went into this. Are you sure you are not his alter-ego?
I admit to finding him great fun to poke - and his pose alternating
between injured virginity and urbane thuggery is vastly amusing in a
macabre sort of way - but you verge on obsession, perhaps? Jute is
utterly transparent and utterly predictable - and as such does not
merit such efforts. Unless, of course, additional notice and attention
(upon which he thrives) is required?

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA


Nah, not much work. Twenty minutes at the outside. I write fast. As you suggest,
there is so little substance to Jute that a FAQ isn't a very demanding project.
Thanks for your concern though.
PH

[Eeyore]

Andre Jute wrote:

Arsehole in a big fourwheel drive cuts across me at a T-junction. He
passes within an inch of my front wheel, so I say into the open
sunroof, "Watch what you do, moron."

This belongs in a car group.

May I suggest
uk.rec.driving
rec.autos.driving

They're very entertaining and you may gain some fans there.

Graham

[Andre Jute[_2_]]

On May 18, 6:13*pm, Eeyore
wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:
Arsehole in a big fourwheel drive cuts across me at a T-junction. He
passes within an inch of my front wheel, so I say into the open
sunroof, "Watch what you do, moron."

This belongs in a car group.

May I suggest
uk.rec.driving
rec.autos.driving

They're very entertaining and you may gain some fans there.

Graham

O deary, o leary, Donkeyface. It's about a ride on a bicycle. It would
be unduly provocative in a car group. It was sent to RAT by mistake.

Andre Jute
Nice guy

[Andre Jute[_2_]]

On May 18, 5:23*pm, Lord Valve wrote:
Q: How is it that Jute owns some poor assholes so completely they write thousands
* * of words about him?

A: *It is the destiny of assholes to be owned. *In fact, a convincing argument
* * can be mounted that they are uncomfortable in the extreme without chains
* * of some sort, or at least without an object on which to focus their worship.

A howard on my arse is preferable to a pimple. The pimple may itch but
the howard passes unnoticed.

It always amazes me that stalkers like Howard would so much rather
have my uneventful life (I work 14 hours a day, seven days a week)
than their own. How dull must their lives be?

Lord Valve
People's Republic of Obamastan
(Occupied United States of God Damn America)

Problem is, if you secede, you have to take California with you. Maybe
you can break off northwards, but Canadian politics is mostly well to
the left of the Democrats. You're surrounded, Valve. You gotta suck it
up for eight, possibly 16 years (Mrs Clinton isn't planning on giving
up...).

BaaaaaarrrrrRRRRAAAACCCCCCKKK!! *Safety!!

One
Big
Ass
Mistake,
America!

http://tinyurl.com/cv4mbm

Over here, for being as outspoken as you can still be with impunity,
one could be jailed.

Andre Jute
http://www.audio-talk.co.uk/fiultra/Andre%20Jute's%20Utopia%20Kranich.pdf

Anothertroll wrote:
"Andre Jute" wrote in message
...
a whole lot of OT bull

The following FAQ is currently being posted twice weekly to rec.bicycles.tech
along with a feature called Andre Jute Great Lie From The Past (AJGLFTP). The
name of AJGLFTP is self-explanatory. The FAQ is open source so anyone who wishes
to add to it and repost it wherever necessary is welcome to it.
The Andre Jute FAQ v1.1

Q: Why a Jute FAQ?

A: To save newbies and casual visitors to RBT from wasting a lot of time on a
serial troll.

Q: Who is Andre Jute anyway?

A: The only things known with reasonable certainty is that he was born in
Oudtshoorn, South Africa in 1945 and, beginning in the 1980's he wrote and
published a succession of books.

Q: What sort of books?

A: A number of thrillers, now all out of print and a number of *"how to" manuals
on writing, special automobile design and graphic design.

Q: Are the books any good?

A: No.

Q: Isn't that just your opinion?

A: If you don't want to believe me searchwww.abebooks.comunder Andre Jute or
his pen-name Andrew McCoy and buy some second-hand copies for yourself.

Q: He seems like a very knowledgeable and experienced cyclist. What's not to
like?

A: He has lots of opinions; all calculated to prove that his current bicycle is
the best of all possible bicycles and that anyone who likes a different sort of
bike or a different sort of cycling is a fashion victim and a fool.

Q: What sort of bike does he ride?

A: Irrelevant to this FAQ. It changes from time to time but each one is the
greatest bike ever and the only one anybody of discerning taste would ride.

Q: Can't you give us a hint?

A: Oh all right! Four years ago it was a Dutch city bike clunker. Two years ago
it was a Trek comfort bike with Shimano Nexus automatic hub. Now it's a
forty-five pound German mixte with Rohloff hub and huge tyres.

Q: I see Andre Jute refer to incidents in an adventurous life from time to time.
Surely he's a man of great talent and wide experience?

A: There is absolutely no independent confirmation of any of Jute's claims about
what he's built or what he's done. He is a fluent liar with a certain basic
competence in the English language so it is safe to say that any biographical
details he lets drop are the product of a fantastic imagination.

Q: What about his book "Designing and Building Special Cars"? He says that book
was once placed in the hands of every junior engineer starting at a major US car
manufacturer.

A: It changes. One minute it's the Bible of every junior engineer, the next
minute Jute made millions licensing it as a promotional giveaway for some
un-named chain of US car parts stores. If you actually read it, it is full of
cut-and-paste design information that could have been culled from anywhere and
generic photos from special car builders. There are no photographs of any of
Jute's supposed builds in progress and no evidence that Jute himself has ever
approached a car with welding torch in hand.

Q. What does he do on RBT that's so awful?

A. He's a sad case, desperately wanting to be taken seriously as a cycling
enthusiast but unable to refrain from throwing up thread topics that are obvious
flame bait. Sometimes he presents himself as a humble novice anxious to learn.
At other times he pretends to expertise though his facts are often plain wrong.
To anyone who questions the truth of what he says he is variously patronizing or
offensive. In any event, he exhibits the most revealing mark of a troll, which
is never, ever to admit to error.

Q: What's wrong with trolling? Isn't it just a bit of gentle fun at the expense
of the stuffed shirts on a newsgroup?

A: It can be very damaging to the utility and enjoyment of an information and
discussion group when a prolific troll attempts to make the group revolve around
him. Andre Jute spent fifteen years doing it on various tube audio forums and he's
attempting it again on RBT.
Here's an academics take on trolling.
"Trolling is a game about identity deception, albeit one that is played without
the consent of most of the players. The troll attempts to pass as a legitimate
participant, sharing the group's common interests and concerns; the newsgroups
members, if they are cognizant of trolls and other identity deceptions, attempt
to both distinguish real from trolling postings, and upon judging a poster a
troll, make the offending poster leave the group. Their success at the former
depends on how well they - and the troll - understand identity cues; their
success at the latter depends on whether the troll's enjoyment is sufficiently
diminished or outweighed by the costs imposed by the group. "

For more start athttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

Q: Why not just killfile him?

A: Many do. However, if you don't have a newsreader that kills entire threads
you will see posts from readers who insist on replying to him and it makes the
newsgroup look untidy.

Q: Why not just have a bit of fun needling him?

A: Sure, if you have a thick skin and can tolerate lies and being called
everything from an ignoramus to a chronic masturbator. Be warned however, you
will not "win".

An obsessive troll like Jute has many tactics to ensure that they emerge
victorious, ranging from introducing red herrings to simply announcing that they
have "won" and retiring. If you are an experienced user you can enjoy
identifying each tactic and even pointing them out. However, you won't stop him
and you may gain a reputation as a troll yourself for encouraging him.

Q: Is Andre Jute mentally ill?

A: Who knows? It's a futile business doing amateur psychiatric diagnosis over
the Internet and what would be the point? Some have suggested Munchausens
syndrome but that's not exactly the invention of tall tales to gain attention.
Narcissistic personality disorder might be more on the money. Again, what's the
point? Especially when the literature reports that clinical treatment of NPD
does not work well anyway.

Q: Won't having a FAQ about him only reinforce Jute's opinion that he's a very
important personality on Usenet?

A: That's the risk we take. On balance, it's worthwhile warning newcomers to the
group about him.

[Jeff[_8_]]

On Mon, 18 May 2009 13:58:11 -0400, Andre Jute wrote:

Andre Jute
Nice guy

*groan*
shaking head, chin down

--
Jesla

Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

[Lord Valve]

Andre Jute wrote:

On May 18, 5:23 pm, Lord Valve wrote:
Q: How is it that Jute owns some poor assholes so completely they write thousands
of words about him?

A: It is the destiny of assholes to be owned. In fact, a convincing argument
can be mounted that they are uncomfortable in the extreme without chains
of some sort, or at least without an object on which to focus their worship.

A howard on my arse is preferable to a pimple. The pimple may itch but
the howard passes unnoticed.

It always amazes me that stalkers like Howard would so much rather
have my uneventful life (I work 14 hours a day, seven days a week)
than their own. How dull must their lives be?

Lord Valve
People's Republic of Obamastan
(Occupied United States of God Damn America)

Problem is, if you secede, you have to take California with you. Maybe
you can break off northwards, but Canadian politics is mostly well to
the left of the Democrats. You're surrounded, Valve. You gotta suck it
up for eight, possibly 16 years (Mrs Clinton isn't planning on giving
up...).

Let's make it four and a slam-dunk. (Note basketball content.)

When the Occupied United States of God Damn America
gets a strong dose of the Asshole in Chief's socialized
medicine, they'll award him the Royal Order of the Boot.
Hillary the Uber-Bitch won't fly this time around, count on
it. (Although, she may well hop on her broom and take
a turn or two around the US media.)



BaaaaaarrrrrRRRRAAAACCCCCCKKK!! Safety!!

One
Big
Ass
Mistake,
America!

http://tinyurl.com/cv4mbm

Over here, for being as outspoken as you can still be with impunity,
one could be jailed.

Yeah, I heard about that ****...

Some poor old geezer over there was treated to a stay in
the Grey Rock Hotel for whistling "Deutschland Uber Alles"
while he was working in his garden. Plenty more crap
just like that, should one care to dig for it. And Hussein
Obama is way into that globalist ****, so he'll sign off on
global (UN) regulation of the internet if he gets the chance.
Man, I hope that one comes to pass...'cuz I'm some kinda
gonna enjoy seein' some blue-helmeted asswipe comin'
up to my front door to arrest me for dissin' the Emir of
Bum****istan, you betcha. I got a .45 (and several other
calibers) surprise for any "international" turd who tries
some "enforcement" on me for speakin' my mind.

Count on it.


Lord Valve
People's Republic of Obamastan
(Occupied United States of God Damn America)
BaaaaaarrrrrRRRRAAAACCCCCCKKK!! Safety!!

One
Big
Ass
Mistake,
America!

http://tinyurl.com/dk6les

[Andre Jute[_2_]]

On May 18, 1:43*pm, PeterD wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2009 15:48:00 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute

wrote:
Sorry about misposting this. Zero interest to RAT soldersniffers
except to Patrick, who can follow it or contribute over on
rec.bikes.tech. -- AJ

Hey, I bike too... And I laughed!

You're welcome. We can do with more laughter on the net, and on RAT in
particular. My rides are mostly safe and beautiful, among people who
wait politely for me to find a place to let them pass, because they
know that in the harvest season I'll jump off the road even if it
means standing in a ditch full of water to let the harvest machinery
pass. This
http://www.audio-talk.co.uk/fiultra/...simon%201.html
and this
http://www.audio-talk.co.uk/fiultra/...simon%202.html
make up a two-part favourite round-trip. I rode it again yesterday
with one of the pedalpals. She and I got soaked on the way home. Bring
back global warming!

Andre Jute
Visit Jute on Bicycles at
http://www.audio-talk.co.uk/fiultra/...20CYCLING.html


On May 17, 11:10*pm, Andre Jute wrote:
Arsehole in a big fourwheel drive cuts across me at a T-junction.

Etc.

[John-Del]

On May 17, 6:10 pm, Andre Jute wrote:


Just as I come his door, a hand clamps on his collar and jerks him
back into the car. An extremely large lady swats the back of his head,
then smiles engagingly at me over his shoulder. "He's like that. I'm
sorry, mister."

You're lucky my grandmother overpowered me, or it could have ended up
differently......

John

[Andre Jute[_2_]]

On May 19, 12:00*am, John-Del wrote:
On May 17, 6:10 pm, Andre Jute wrote:



Just as I come his door, a hand clamps on his collar and jerks him
back into the car. An extremely large lady swats the back of his head,
then smiles engagingly at me over his shoulder. "He's like that. I'm
sorry, mister."

You're lucky my grandmother overpowered me, or it could have ended up
differently......

John

If I'd known it was you, John, I'da jumped into the ditch and touched
my forelock. I'm brave, not reckless.

Andre Jute
I'm not a know-all. I don't need to be. I know who to ask.

[Jon Yaeger]

LV is right that Jute "inspires" people to write in response to him (I've
certainly wasted a lot of time doing just that).

In the aggregate, "cons" against Andre outweigh the "pros" by a large
margin. Always have.

I found Antitroll's post to be cogent, well-written, and right to the point.
Even amusing . . . I doubt I could have said it better myself.

The "There is justice" story had the unmistakable odor of fiction when I
first read it. The fact that there are other emphatic versions supports the
idea that all are the product of a fetid imagination.

For some reason, Lord Valve always comes to Andre's defense. Are they what
we call "butt-buddies" here in the South? That prospect is made more
tenable by another recent LV post, in which he admits familiarity with the
flavor of ass . . .

;-)

Back to work now . . . .




On 5/18/09 12:24 PM, in article
,
" wrote:

A lot of work went into this. Are you sure you are not his alter-ego?
I admit to finding him great fun to poke - and his pose alternating
between injured virginity and urbane thuggery is vastly amusing in a
macabre sort of way - but you verge on obsession, perhaps? Jute is
utterly transparent and utterly predictable - and as such does not
merit such efforts. Unless, of course, additional notice and attention
(upon which he thrives) is required?

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

[Tom_Sherman]

Lard Valve WHO? ANONYMOUSLY SNIPES:
Andre Jute wrote:

On May 18, 5:23 pm, Lord Valve wrote:
[snip Jute crap]

Lord Valve
People's Republic of Obamastan
(Occupied United States of God Damn America)
Problem is, if you secede, you have to take California with you. Maybe
you can break off northwards, but Canadian politics is mostly well to
the left of the Democrats. You're surrounded, Valve. You gotta suck it
up for eight, possibly 16 years (Mrs Clinton isn't planning on giving
up...).

Let's make it four and a slam-dunk. (Note basketball content.)

When the Occupied United States of God Damn America
gets a strong dose of the Asshole in Chief's socialized
medicine, they'll award him the Royal Order of the Boot.
Hillary the Uber-Bitch won't fly this time around, count on
it. (Although, she may well hop on her broom and take
a turn or two around the US media.)

I hope Lard Valve is joking - otherwise he needs to get back on his
anti-psychotic meds. Obama will not propose any plan that cuts out
for-profit medicine unless THE PEOPLE force him too. Anyone who thinks
otherwise is clueless about how the US government works.


BaaaaaarrrrrRRRRAAAACCCCCCKKK!! Safety!!

One
Big
Ass
Mistake,
America!

http://tinyurl.com/cv4mbm
Over here, for being as outspoken as you can still be with impunity,
one could be jailed.

Yeah, I heard about that ****...

Some poor old geezer over there was treated to a stay in
the Grey Rock Hotel for whistling "Deutschland Uber Alles"
while he was working in his garden. Plenty more crap
just like that, should one care to dig for it. And Hussein
Obama is way into that globalist ****, so he'll sign off on
global (UN) regulation of the internet if he gets the chance.
Man, I hope that one comes to pass...'cuz I'm some kinda
gonna enjoy seein' some blue-helmeted asswipe comin'
up to my front door to arrest me for dissin' the Emir of
Bum****istan, you betcha. I got a .45 (and several other
calibers) surprise for any "international" turd who tries
some "enforcement" on me for speakin' my mind.

Count on it.
[...]
Yep, your small arms would be real effective against modern armor
supported infantry. But if it makes you feel better endowed, go for it.

yawn

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll

[Patrick Turner]

Andre Jute wrote:

Arsehole in a big fourwheel drive cuts across me at a T-junction. He
passes within an inch of my front wheel, so I say into the open
sunroof, "Watch what you do, moron."

The 4WD screeches to a halt and the door slams open, presumably so the
fellow can come ask me who I'm calling a moron. Feet appear as I ride
around the back of the thing, wondering if I should turn the other way
and go home for an aperitif, or stop and cut the dumb ******* down to
nothing or, if he is even more stupid and actually strikes me, teach
him about the kindness of strangers in white uniforms bearing
morphine in the middle of the night.

Just as I come his door, a hand clamps on his collar and jerks him
back into the car. An extremely large lady swats the back of his head,
then smiles engagingly at me over his shoulder. "He's like that. I'm
sorry, mister."

"You're a bit of all right," I said graciously. "A woman's work is
never done, eh?" And I rode on.

She didn't look like she needed any help cutting him down to size!

That was Friday, and I'm still laughing. Every time I see that jerk on
the roads, i'll grab the back of my collar and make a strangled face.
He'll never come near me again!

Andre Jute
Conditioning

About 20 years ago while on a quiet country road a pair of goons in a
black Ford transit van yell obscenties at me as they go past me on the
bicycle.

But just around the corner was a red traffic light and they pull up. I
catch them and stop beside the passenger window which was open.

I go "excuse me but what was that you mentioned back there sir?"

Out comes "your F----- mother f----- pigs every f------ night!!!"

Quick as a flash, I lean my head in through the window and spit right
between the eyes of the goon passenger, then remove my head, grab my
bike, turn it around 180 degrees, and proceed to make a get away around
the rear of the van to a cycle path across the road. The poor goon must
have been utterly dumb struck. He just seemed to freeze. They both had
can of beer open as they drove, and also two pit ball terriers in the
back of the van.
The dogs smelt their welling anger within about 12 seconds and they went
beserko in the van, which trembled slightly with the dogs leaping around
and barking wildly. I went a bit faster across the road. Once on the
other side, the goons stalled their van as i watched. Then they try to
start off on the green lights while both yelling more obscenities while
i leered back smiling, giving then a single finger salute.
Their engine eventually started and they swung off the road on their
side to "come after me" to which I said "well come on them ya big fat
morons". They got out of the van.

I rode off at a leisurely pace, satisfied and safe in the knowledge that
my mother's honour had been defended, but with an eye out for bounding
hounds and terrible teeth.

I could out ride just about any dog, especially fat pit bulls with short
legs.

But just to be sure, I didn't ride that road again for 6 months.

Patrick Turner.

[[email protected]]

On May 19, 6:13*am, Patrick Turner wrote:

But just to be sure, I didn't ride that road again for 6 months.

Now that has the ring of truth. Funny how obvious the difference.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

[Lord Valve]

Tom_Sherman wrote:

Lard Valve WHO? ANONYMOUSLY SNIPES:

First of all, asswipe, I'm hardly anonymous.

I have over 24,000 posts to the Usenet...my name, address,
and phone number are all over the place. Google it, noob.


Andre Jute wrote:

On May 18, 5:23 pm, Lord Valve wrote:
[snip Jute crap]

Lord Valve
People's Republic of Obamastan
(Occupied United States of God Damn America)
Problem is, if you secede, you have to take California with you. Maybe
you can break off northwards, but Canadian politics is mostly well to
the left of the Democrats. You're surrounded, Valve. You gotta suck it
up for eight, possibly 16 years (Mrs Clinton isn't planning on giving
up...).

Let's make it four and a slam-dunk. (Note basketball content.)

When the Occupied United States of God Damn America
gets a strong dose of the Asshole in Chief's socialized
medicine, they'll award him the Royal Order of the Boot.
Hillary the Uber-Bitch won't fly this time around, count on
it. (Although, she may well hop on her broom and take
a turn or two around the US media.)

I hope Lard Valve is joking - otherwise he needs to get back on his
anti-psychotic meds.

Of course, meds. A Usenet Trump Card. I guess I'm Pwn3D now. This guy's
tough!

Obama will not propose any plan that cuts out
for-profit medicine unless THE PEOPLE force him too. Anyone who thinks
otherwise is clueless about how the US government works.

I suppose you didn't watch the news this morning.

Idiot.

BaaaaaarrrrrRRRRAAAACCCCCCKKK!! Safety!!

One
Big
Ass
Mistake,
America!

http://tinyurl.com/cv4mbm
Over here, for being as outspoken as you can still be with impunity,
one could be jailed.

Yeah, I heard about that ****...

Some poor old geezer over there was treated to a stay in
the Grey Rock Hotel for whistling "Deutschland Uber Alles"
while he was working in his garden. Plenty more crap
just like that, should one care to dig for it. And Hussein
Obama is way into that globalist ****, so he'll sign off on
global (UN) regulation of the internet if he gets the chance.
Man, I hope that one comes to pass...'cuz I'm some kinda
gonna enjoy seein' some blue-helmeted asswipe comin'
up to my front door to arrest me for dissin' the Emir of
Bum****istan, you betcha. I got a .45 (and several other
calibers) surprise for any "international" turd who tries
some "enforcement" on me for speakin' my mind.

Count on it.
[...]
Yep, your small arms would be real effective against modern armor
supported infantry.

You assume that the infantry would remain on the side of the government.

That one's not assured, not any more. And on the micro
level, i.e., some blue-helmeted turd trying to arrest an
American citizen (me) for speaking his mind, small arms
are indeed "real effective" (sic), and there are so many
of them among the populace that said populace constitutes
an army. A ragtag, half-assed army, true, but then...our
country had its genesis with just such an army.

But if it makes you feel better endowed, go for it.

Yes, the dick thing is easy and ubiquitous. By all means, use it as often as
possible.

yawn

You'll never wake up.

Lord Valve/Willie Whittaker
230 South Broadway
Denver, CO 80209-1510
303-778-1156
People's Republic of Obamastan
(Occupied United States of God Damn America)
BaaaaaarrrrrRRRRAAAACCCCCCKKK!! Safety!!

One
Big
Ass
Mistake,
America!

http://tinyurl.com/cv4mbm

[Andre Jute[_2_]]

On May 19, 3:24*pm, Lord Valve wrote:
Tom_Sherman wrote:
Lard Valve WHO? ANONYMOUSLY SNIPES:

First of all, asswipe, I'm hardly anonymous.

I have over 24,000 posts to the Usenet...my name, address,
and phone number are all over the place. *Google it, noob.



Andre Jute wrote:

On May 18, 5:23 pm, Lord Valve wrote:
[snip Jute crap]

Lord Valve
People's Republic of Obamastan
(Occupied United States of God Damn America)
Problem is, if you secede, you have to take California with you. Maybe
you can break off northwards, but Canadian politics is mostly well to
the left of the Democrats. You're surrounded, Valve. You gotta suck it
up for eight, possibly 16 years (Mrs Clinton isn't planning on giving
up...).

Let's make it four and a slam-dunk. *(Note basketball content.)

When the Occupied United States of God Damn America
gets a strong dose of the Asshole in Chief's socialized
medicine, they'll award him the Royal Order of the Boot.
Hillary the Uber-Bitch won't fly this time around, count on
it. *(Although, she may well hop on her broom and take
a turn or two around the US media.)

I hope Lard Valve is joking - otherwise he needs to get back on his
anti-psychotic meds.

Of course, meds. *A Usenet Trump Card. *I guess I'm Pwn3D now. *This guy's
tough!

Obama will not propose any plan that cuts out
for-profit medicine unless THE PEOPLE force him too. Anyone who thinks
otherwise is clueless about how the US government works.

I suppose you didn't watch the news this morning.

Idiot.



BaaaaaarrrrrRRRRAAAACCCCCCKKK!! *Safety!!

One
Big
Ass
Mistake,
America!

http://tinyurl.com/cv4mbm
Over here, for being as outspoken as you can still be with impunity,
one could be jailed.

Yeah, I heard about that ****...

Some poor old geezer over there was treated to a stay in
the Grey Rock Hotel for whistling "Deutschland Uber Alles"
while he was working in his garden. *Plenty more crap
just like that, should one care to dig for it. *And Hussein
Obama is way into that globalist ****, so he'll sign off on
global (UN) regulation of the internet if he gets the chance.
Man, I hope that one comes to pass...'cuz I'm some kinda
gonna enjoy seein' some blue-helmeted asswipe comin'
up to my front door to arrest me for dissin' the Emir of
Bum****istan, you betcha. *I got a .45 (and several other
calibers) surprise for any "international" turd who tries
some "enforcement" on me for speakin' my mind.

Count on it.
[...]
Yep, your small arms would be real effective against modern armor
supported infantry.

You assume that the infantry would remain on the side of the government.

That one's not assured, not any more. *And on the micro
level, i.e., some blue-helmeted turd trying to arrest an
American citizen (me) for speaking his mind, small arms
are indeed "real effective" (sic), and there are so many
of them among the populace that said populace constitutes
an army. *A ragtag, half-assed army, true, but then...our
country had its genesis with just such an army.

But if it makes you feel better endowed, go for it.

Yes, the dick thing is easy and ubiquitous. *By all means, use it as often as
possible.

yawn

You'll never wake up.

Lord Valve/Willie Whittaker
230 South Broadway
Denver, CO 80209-1510
303-778-1156
People's Republic of Obamastan
(Occupied United States of God Damn America)
BaaaaaarrrrrRRRRAAAACCCCCCKKK!! *Safety!!

One
Big
Ass
Mistake,
America!

http://tinyurl.com/cv4mbm

The Inter-Action-Net takes on a whole new meaning when you arrive,
m'lord Valve.

Poor Tommi Sherman had a miserable childhood and, past his middle
thirties already, still waits for the world to recompense him. He
doesn't understand or care what you're about. He just hates you for
not recognizing his "entitlement".

Poor Tommi is a qualified civil engineer but he pretends to be a
liberal, as do many others on RBT. In real life they are closet
reactionaries who want government handouts for the middle classes.

It comes as no surprise that their hatred of Republican rationality is
visceral.

Andre Jute
Author of the revolutionary handbook
A Sangre y Fuego by Andre McCoy (Roca, Mexico)

[Tom_Sherman]

Lard Valve aka Willie Whittaker wrote:
Tom_Sherman wrote:

Lard Valve WHO? ANONYMOUSLY SNIPES:

First of all, asswipe, I'm hardly anonymous.

I have over 24,000 posts to the Usenet...my name, address,
and phone number are all over the place. Google it, noob.


Andre Jute wrote:

On May 18, 5:23 pm, Lord Valve wrote:
[snip Jute crap]
Lord Valve
People's Republic of Obamastan
(Occupied United States of God Damn America)
Problem is, if you secede, you have to take California with you. Maybe
you can break off northwards, but Canadian politics is mostly well to
the left of the Democrats. You're surrounded, Valve. You gotta suck it
up for eight, possibly 16 years (Mrs Clinton isn't planning on giving
up...).
Let's make it four and a slam-dunk. (Note basketball content.)

When the Occupied United States of God Damn America
gets a strong dose of the Asshole in Chief's socialized
medicine, they'll award him the Royal Order of the Boot.
Hillary the Uber-Bitch won't fly this time around, count on
it. (Although, she may well hop on her broom and take
a turn or two around the US media.)

I hope Lard Valve is joking - otherwise he needs to get back on his
anti-psychotic meds.

Of course, meds. A Usenet Trump Card. I guess I'm Pwn3D now. This guy's
tough!

Obama will not propose any plan that cuts out
for-profit medicine unless THE PEOPLE force him too. Anyone who thinks
otherwise is clueless about how the US government works.

I suppose you didn't watch the news this morning.

Idiot.

BaaaaaarrrrrRRRRAAAACCCCCCKKK!! Safety!!

One
Big
Ass
Mistake,
America!

http://tinyurl.com/cv4mbm
Over here, for being as outspoken as you can still be with impunity,
one could be jailed.
Yeah, I heard about that ****...

Some poor old geezer over there was treated to a stay in
the Grey Rock Hotel for whistling "Deutschland Uber Alles"
while he was working in his garden. Plenty more crap
just like that, should one care to dig for it. And Hussein
Obama is way into that globalist ****, so he'll sign off on
global (UN) regulation of the internet if he gets the chance.
Man, I hope that one comes to pass...'cuz I'm some kinda
gonna enjoy seein' some blue-helmeted asswipe comin'
up to my front door to arrest me for dissin' the Emir of
Bum****istan, you betcha. I got a .45 (and several other
calibers) surprise for any "international" turd who tries
some "enforcement" on me for speakin' my mind.

Count on it.
[...]
Yep, your small arms would be real effective against modern armor
supported infantry.

You assume that the infantry would remain on the side of the government.

That one's not assured, not any more. And on the micro
level, i.e., some blue-helmeted turd trying to arrest an
American citizen (me) for speaking his mind, small arms
are indeed "real effective" (sic), and there are so many
of them among the populace that said populace constitutes
an army. A ragtag, half-assed army, true, but then...our
country had its genesis with just such an army.

But if it makes you feel better endowed, go for it.

Yes, the dick thing is easy and ubiquitous. By all means, use it as often as
possible.

yawn

You'll never wake up.

Lord Valve/Willie Whittaker
230 South Broadway
Denver, CO 80209-1510
303-778-1156
People's Republic of Obamastan
(Occupied United States of God Damn America)
BaaaaaarrrrrRRRRAAAACCCCCCKKK!! Safety!!

One
Big
Ass
Mistake,
America!

http://tinyurl.com/cv4mbm

Not a single reasonable argument from W.W. indicating Obama is anything
but a moderate corporatist.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll

[Tom_Sherman]

"flipper" WHO? wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2009 18:33:11 -0500, Tom_Sherman
wrote:

[...]
Not a single reasonable argument from W.W. indicating Obama is anything
but a moderate corporatist.

That's the funniest thing I've heard all week.

Stay out of the tuna nets.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll

[Andre Jute[_2_]]

On May 20, 1:35*am, flipper wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2009 18:33:11 -0500, Tom_Sherman



wrote:
Lard Valve aka Willie Whittaker wrote:
Tom_Sherman wrote:

Lard Valve WHO? ANONYMOUSLY SNIPES:

First of all, asswipe, I'm hardly anonymous.

I have over 24,000 posts to the Usenet...my name, address,
and phone number are all over the place. *Google it, noob.

Andre Jute wrote:

On May 18, 5:23 pm, Lord Valve wrote:
[snip Jute crap]
Lord Valve
People's Republic of Obamastan
(Occupied United States of God Damn America)
Problem is, if you secede, you have to take California with you. Maybe
you can break off northwards, but Canadian politics is mostly well to
the left of the Democrats. You're surrounded, Valve. You gotta suck it
up for eight, possibly 16 years (Mrs Clinton isn't planning on giving
up...).
Let's make it four and a slam-dunk. *(Note basketball content.)

When the Occupied United States of God Damn America
gets a strong dose of the Asshole in Chief's socialized
medicine, they'll award him the Royal Order of the Boot.
Hillary the Uber-Bitch won't fly this time around, count on
it. *(Although, she may well hop on her broom and take
a turn or two around the US media.)

I hope Lard Valve is joking - otherwise he needs to get back on his
anti-psychotic meds.

Of course, meds. *A Usenet Trump Card. *I guess I'm Pwn3D now. *This guy's
tough!

Obama will not propose any plan that cuts out
for-profit medicine unless THE PEOPLE force him too. Anyone who thinks
otherwise is clueless about how the US government works.

I suppose you didn't watch the news this morning.

Idiot.

BaaaaaarrrrrRRRRAAAACCCCCCKKK!! *Safety!!

One
Big
Ass
Mistake,
America!

http://tinyurl.com/cv4mbm
Over here, for being as outspoken as you can still be with impunity,
one could be jailed.
Yeah, I heard about that ****...

Some poor old geezer over there was treated to a stay in
the Grey Rock Hotel for whistling "Deutschland Uber Alles"
while he was working in his garden. *Plenty more crap
just like that, should one care to dig for it. *And Hussein
Obama is way into that globalist ****, so he'll sign off on
global (UN) regulation of the internet if he gets the chance.
Man, I hope that one comes to pass...'cuz I'm some kinda
gonna enjoy seein' some blue-helmeted asswipe comin'
up to my front door to arrest me for dissin' the Emir of
Bum****istan, you betcha. *I got a .45 (and several other
calibers) surprise for any "international" turd who tries
some "enforcement" on me for speakin' my mind.

Count on it.
[...]
Yep, your small arms would be real effective against modern armor
supported infantry.

You assume that the infantry would remain on the side of the government.

[Andre Jute[_2_]]

On May 19, 11:13*am, Patrick Turner wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:

Arsehole in a big fourwheel drive cuts across me at a T-junction. He
passes within an inch of my front wheel, so I say into the open
sunroof, "Watch what you do, moron."

The 4WD screeches to a halt and the door slams open, presumably so the
fellow can come ask me who I'm calling a moron. Feet appear as I ride
around the back of the thing, wondering if I should turn the other way
and go home for an aperitif, or stop and cut the dumb ******* down to
nothing or, if he is even more stupid and actually strikes me, teach
him about the kindness of strangers in white uniforms bearing
morphine in the middle of the night.

Just as I come his door, a hand clamps on his collar and jerks him
back into the car. An extremely large lady swats the back of his head,
then smiles engagingly at me over his shoulder. "He's like that. I'm
sorry, mister."

"You're a bit of all right," I said graciously. "A woman's work is
never done, eh?" And I rode on.

She didn't look like she needed any help cutting him down to size!

That was Friday, and I'm still laughing. Every time I see that jerk on
the roads, i'll grab the back of my collar and make a strangled face.
He'll never come near me again!

Andre Jute
Conditioning

About 20 years ago while on a quiet country road a pair of goons in a
black Ford transit van yell obscenties at me as they go past me on the
bicycle.

But just around the corner was a red traffic light and they pull up. I
catch them and stop beside the passenger window which was open.

I go "excuse me but what was that you mentioned back there sir?"

Out comes "your F----- mother f----- pigs every f------ night!!!"

Quick as a flash, I lean my head in through the window and spit right
between the eyes of the goon passenger, then remove my head, grab my
bike, turn it around 180 degrees, and proceed to make a get away around
the rear of the van to a cycle path across the road. The poor goon must
have been utterly dumb struck. He just seemed to freeze. They both had
can of beer open as they drove, and also two pit ball terriers in the
back of the van.
The dogs smelt their welling anger within about 12 seconds and they went
beserko in the van, which trembled slightly with the dogs leaping around
and barking wildly. I went a bit faster across the road. Once on the
other side, the goons stalled their van as i watched. Then they try to
start off on the green lights while both yelling more obscenities while
i leered back smiling, giving then a single finger salute.
Their engine eventually started and they swung off the road on their
side to "come after me" to which I said "well come on them ya big fat
morons". They got out of the van.

I rode off at a leisurely pace, satisfied and safe in the knowledge that
my mother's honour had been defended, but with an eye out for bounding
hounds and terrible teeth.

I could out ride just about any dog, especially fat pit bulls with short
legs.

But just to be sure, I didn't ride that road again for 6 months.

Patrick Turner.

That's a bit reckless, Patrick, spitting on a fellow with a van-load
of pitbulls!

LOL!

Andre Jute
Down with the spoilsport Telemachus!

[Tom_Sherman]

"flipper" who? wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2009 20:41:06 -0500, Tom_Sherman
wrote:

"flipper" WHO? wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2009 18:33:11 -0500, Tom_Sherman
wrote:

[...]
Not a single reasonable argument from W.W. indicating Obama is anything
but a moderate corporatist.
That's the funniest thing I've heard all week.
Stay out of the tuna nets.

Thanks for the tip but calling Obama a 'corporatist', of any kind, is
still the funniest thing I've heard all week.

I am not laughing at the share of the hundreds of billions of dollars
Obama has given to Wall Street that I will have to pay back.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll

[Jay Beattie]

On May 19, 7:38*pm, Tom_Sherman
wrote:
"flipper" who? wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2009 20:41:06 -0500, Tom_Sherman
wrote:

"flipper" WHO? wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2009 18:33:11 -0500, Tom_Sherman
wrote:

[...]
Not a single reasonable argument from W.W. indicating Obama is anything
but a moderate corporatist.
That's the funniest thing I've heard all week.
Stay out of the tuna nets.

Thanks for the tip but calling Obama a 'corporatist', of any kind, is
still the funniest thing I've heard all week.

I am not laughing at the share of the hundreds of billions of dollars
Obama has given to Wall Street that I will have to pay back.

I don't disagree entirely, but the money was not a gift. TARP funds
are subject to repayment, and their are other recoupment features in
the legislation. It is theoretically possible that the government
could get its money back and more. On the other hand, you will not be
seeing any of the stimulus money come back, viz., grants to the states
for schools, infrastructure, etc. -- Jay Beattie.

[Tom_Sherman]

Andre Jute wrote:
[...]
Jute claims to kill-file, but then responds to quoted people in his
alleged kill-file based on second-hand material that may no longer be in
its proper context.

Poor Tommi Sherman had a miserable childhood and, past his middle
thirties already, still waits for the world to recompense him. He
doesn't understand or care what you're about. He just hates you for
not recognizing his "entitlement".

Epic Fail for Jute in having a clue here.

Poor Tommi is a qualified civil engineer but he pretends to be a
liberal, as do many others on RBT. In real life they are closet
reactionaries who want government handouts for the middle classes.

Wrong on both counts again.

It comes as no surprise that their hatred of Republican rationality is
visceral.

Strike three for the remittance man.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll

[Patrick Turner]

Andre Jute wrote:

On May 19, 11:13 am, Patrick Turner wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:

Arsehole in a big fourwheel drive cuts across me at a T-junction. He
passes within an inch of my front wheel, so I say into the open
sunroof, "Watch what you do, moron."

The 4WD screeches to a halt and the door slams open, presumably so the
fellow can come ask me who I'm calling a moron. Feet appear as I ride
around the back of the thing, wondering if I should turn the other way
and go home for an aperitif, or stop and cut the dumb ******* down to
nothing or, if he is even more stupid and actually strikes me, teach
him about the kindness of strangers in white uniforms bearing
morphine in the middle of the night.

Just as I come his door, a hand clamps on his collar and jerks him
back into the car. An extremely large lady swats the back of his head,
then smiles engagingly at me over his shoulder. "He's like that. I'm
sorry, mister."

"You're a bit of all right," I said graciously. "A woman's work is
never done, eh?" And I rode on.

She didn't look like she needed any help cutting him down to size!

That was Friday, and I'm still laughing. Every time I see that jerk on
the roads, i'll grab the back of my collar and make a strangled face.
He'll never come near me again!

Andre Jute
Conditioning

About 20 years ago while on a quiet country road a pair of goons in a
black Ford transit van yell obscenties at me as they go past me on the
bicycle.

But just around the corner was a red traffic light and they pull up. I
catch them and stop beside the passenger window which was open.

I go "excuse me but what was that you mentioned back there sir?"

Out comes "your F----- mother f----- pigs every f------ night!!!"

Quick as a flash, I lean my head in through the window and spit right
between the eyes of the goon passenger, then remove my head, grab my
bike, turn it around 180 degrees, and proceed to make a get away around
the rear of the van to a cycle path across the road. The poor goon must
have been utterly dumb struck. He just seemed to freeze. They both had
can of beer open as they drove, and also two pit ball terriers in the
back of the van.
The dogs smelt their welling anger within about 12 seconds and they went
beserko in the van, which trembled slightly with the dogs leaping around
and barking wildly. I went a bit faster across the road. Once on the
other side, the goons stalled their van as i watched. Then they try to
start off on the green lights while both yelling more obscenities while
i leered back smiling, giving then a single finger salute.
Their engine eventually started and they swung off the road on their
side to "come after me" to which I said "well come on them ya big fat
morons". They got out of the van.

I rode off at a leisurely pace, satisfied and safe in the knowledge that
my mother's honour had been defended, but with an eye out for bounding
hounds and terrible teeth.

I could out ride just about any dog, especially fat pit bulls with short
legs.

But just to be sure, I didn't ride that road again for 6 months.

Patrick Turner.

That's a bit reckless, Patrick, spitting on a fellow with a van-load
of pitbulls!

LOL!

But I didn't know the pit bulls were in there until after I'd given the
goon a spray, which hurt nothing except his pride.

Yes, things could have been different, but at 42 my judgement of what
was possible within 10 seconds and what the reaction times of the goons
might be, and what might be my method of getting away unharmed was spot
on.

If there was a donnybrook I could have probably managed a fist fight OK.

People shouldn't talk about my mum like that. I'll definately spoil
their day if possible.

And in 1972, during a trip up to North Queensland, and while visiting a
Townsville milkbar for a hamburger, and while I rode a BMW, two young
small dumb runty fuctards from the Townsville branch of the Gypsy Joker
MC club decided to pick a blue, and king hit me as I came out of the
bar. But they'd been at the pub, and were quite tipsy, and I laid out
both of them with a few hits. I then proceed to pick up my burger, and
proceed north, as they yelled threats from the ground.

Within an hour I was 80 miles north, and I doubt they ever could have
caught me on their crummy old Triumphs.

I did get a cut lip, but that healed in a few days, and the stay in
Cairns for a month amoung peaceful hippies was a very pleasant time
without the slightest agro.

I would not like to ride the same way on a push bike now. Too much
traffic.

But in 1927, when the road was mainly a dirt track, my father cycled
from Sydney to Cairns. He was much fitter than I was at the same age. It
took him months, and I bet there were no hippies or girls naked on the
beaches all willing to root for nothing.

But there were farms along the way, and you could stop and offer a bob,
and they'd give a man a bucket of milk, or a feed, and they'd be glad to
talk to you.


Patrick Turner.

Andre Jute
Down with the spoilsport Telemachus!

[Trevor Wilson]

"Eeyore" wrote in message
...


**Graham. Please send me an email.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

[Trevor Wilson]

"Andre Jute" wrote in message
...
Arsehole in a big fourwheel drive cuts across me at a T-junction. He
passes within an inch of my front wheel, so I say into the open
sunroof, "Watch what you do, moron."

The 4WD screeches to a halt and the door slams open, presumably so the
fellow can come ask me who I'm calling a moron. Feet appear as I ride
around the back of the thing, wondering if I should turn the other way
and go home for an aperitif, or stop and cut the dumb ******* down to
nothing or, if he is even more stupid and actually strikes me, teach
him about the kindness of strangers in white uniforms bearing
morphine in the middle of the night.

Just as I come his door, a hand clamps on his collar and jerks him
back into the car. An extremely large lady swats the back of his head,
then smiles engagingly at me over his shoulder. "He's like that. I'm
sorry, mister."

"You're a bit of all right," I said graciously. "A woman's work is
never done, eh?" And I rode on.

She didn't look like she needed any help cutting him down to size!

That was Friday, and I'm still laughing. Every time I see that jerk on
the roads, i'll grab the back of my collar and make a strangled face.
He'll never come near me again!

**I agree. 4WD drivers are far and away the worst on the road (when it comes
to bicycles). I've had to kick a few doors over the years. Good story. I
hope it was a true one.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

[[email protected]]

On May 20, 8:14*pm, "Trevor Wilson"
wrote:

**I agree. 4WD drivers are far and away the worst on the road (when it comes
to bicycles). I've had to kick a few doors over the years. Good story. I
hope it was a true one.

You can be sure it is not. Consider the source. Consider the
variations. Consider the cross-posting. The entirety stinks to high
heaven of the usual lies, cries and whimpers of Mr. Jute.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA