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On Sep 4, 6:59*pm, wrote:
Whyever should I? The samples from the ****** Price you supplied was enough to tell me what sort of halfbaked idiocy lurks there. And Tainter isn't much better. Perhaps so that you might be able to discuss on the merits rather than entirely ad-hominum. However, you have demonstrated repeatedly and perpetually that actual facts, meaningful discussion and verifiable sources are not your forte - that would be character assasination and blatant, pretentious hogwash. One might actually believe that you were doing this for fun except for your pathological need to overwhelm your opponents with specious tripe. And you share with your amanuensis, apologist and general water- carrier Mr. Byrns the need to rear up like a virgin spinster when called on it. The difference, however, between you and Mr. Byrns is that he generally has some basic knowledge of the facts when he enters into a discussion. Something that has eluded you to-date. He does lack your colorful gift of language on the other hand even if the results are meaningless. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
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Andre Jute wrote:
On Sep 3, 5:57 am, (Dersu Uzala) wrote: Andre spewed: But, Dumbo, before we can believe anything athttp://dieoff.org/, you first have to prove the underlying assumption of 'finite resources'. You've done no such thing. I don't know about you, but I live on the planet Earth. Trust me, neglecting the small increase in mass due to meteorites, it is a finite planet, and I haven't read about any inter-planetary ore ships docking here. Which ores are in short supply? It is widely known, and leading environmentalists were deeply embarrassed when they took a bet that ore prices would skyrocket and lost the bet, that the prices of metals and other commodities are in long-term decline through over-supply. Even petroleum isn't proven to be finite: every year there are more reserves at the contemporary price: the market is working brilliantly, despite the worst efforts of that despicable cartel, OPEC. In a finite set(Earth), all sub-sets(oil) are finite. Can you handle this math? Or do you believe new oil is made everyday? Abiotic like? How's the North Sea's production going? Isn't the UK a net importer now? Even though the North Sea oil fields have the most modern equipment, and easiest capital access? Your manner of speaking, and your entire though-pattern, is conditioned by your failure to grasp the human spirit, by the in humanity of people in your camp.You speak as if there is some natural law that we have to use petroleum forever. We don't have to. We have coal and peat and nuclear energy and water energy -- and above all we have human ingenuity. Long before the last oil is exhausted you won't be able to give the filthy stuff away, except to the poor nations, because we will have so much energy from other sources that it won't be worth digging for oil, except in low-tech economies. For practical purposes, for the century we will still use petroleum before we perfect refining hydrogen from tapwater, resources are sufficient. How does one "refine" hydrogen from water without losing energy? Entropy, ya know. A Nobel awaits you upon you answer. Zero point energy doesn't count. The cost-benefit analysis considers the cost of extraction versus the income from the use plus the indirect benefits to society (including its environment). And, of course, nuclear power is truly infinite. But this isn't about energy, is it, you nasty little necrosis, it is about giving undeserving jerks like you control over their fellows. An assumption without evidence. Please post a link that supports your insult or apologize. You posted the link, Dumbo, in which Tainter licked his lips about the violent death of tens of millions and the removal of energy from politics, which can only mean in the institution of a dictator and an energy police on the model of the Gestapo. If that isn't giving undeserving jerks like Tainter -- and by extension you, his acolyte -- control over your fellows, what is? You guys are a walking, talking Stalinist nightmare. CONCLUSION: The "order" that the scum at dieoff.org want to introduce is death, as it was in Communist Russia, Cambodia under Pol Pot, and China under Mao. Even today's Chinese are smarter than that. If we give in to these necrophiliac creeps, for the first time in history we will have a manmade energy catastrophe. I know who should die off before we permit them to create a disaster, and it is those dangerous jerks at dieoff.org. An assumption without evidence. Please post a link that supports this insult or apologize. You already posted the link with the evidence, Dumbo: http://dieoff.org/. You further posted the relevant quotations. If you don't agree with my analysis, you must show us how energy policy can be removed from the market and effectively policed without massive force. You must further show how central planning will work better than it did in the Communist Soviet Union or in China. The rest of us know the answer: it can't work without mass murder. Really, I know you can read and work the internet. I don't care if you have had a stroke, you should not be acting the fool when it is obvious that your ability to reason is still present. Oh, I had a stroke almost forty years ago. I don't know where you ever got the idea I am in any way impaired. As for my ability to reason, it is precisely my analysis of the material you supplied which has stopped you influencing impressionable minds with the lies of Price and Tainter. I would call that a victory for reason over the enemies of society. Andre Jute Nil carborundum illegitimi Hail, good Jute-fellow! And well met. I see you're up to your usual sensible shenanigans. I'm not sure why you'd want to argue with another in the endless series of commie ****heads who seem to pollute the online world, but...communism it is, and not even presented in a shiny new wrapper (as by Obama et al) at that. And I can't help but notice the myopic focus of those who insist on considering the Earth as a closed system...which it may indeed be on the micro level; however, on the macro level (which this particular type of clod seems to be completely incapable of perceiving) there are quadrillions of tonnes of resources floating around waiting for some enterprising businessmen to snap them up, and that's just in this solar system alone. Metals, organics, gases, water, unlimited solar power...and most of it eminently accessible using technologies which have existed since the 1950s. And anyone who thinks that's balderdash should consider the reaction of someone from, say, 1910, confronted with the prospect of obtaining petroleum from a hole drilled a mile beneath the surface of the ocean: "Absolutely impossible - never happen." Sure...only now, it's routine - and has been for quite awhile. Right about here is where the scoffers will boil out of the woodwork, ****ing and moaning about impossibilities and huge infrastructure investments and whatnot. Just like that dude from 1910. These are nearsighted people, and they will continue to **** on each other's shoes. At any rate, wherever you find someone advocating massive control of any natural resource, you can bet your sweet arse you've encountered a commie. And that commie will almost certainly be painted green, for within the green movement is where most of them currently reside...although the Bear is grumbling of late. Perhaps it was just hibernating, eh? ;-) Well - gotta go do my exercises. I severed my quadriceps tendon a little more than a couple of months ago, and I'm currently in the process of stretching the sewed-together remains of it back into a functional system which will allow my knee to bend more than the 90 degrees it is currently capable of. I fear that at some point I shall have to take up bicycle riding as a form of rehabilitation; fortunately, that is at least on the other side of the coming winter. Until then, I shall be content with hobbling around with my cane...when I'm not styling through Denver in my Sprinter, an 11-foot high monster which I can easily walk around in. (I don't think I could drive anything smaller, since my right leg would have to be much more functional than it currently is to work the pedals in one of those miniature green-weenie things which pass for automobiles these days.) I can, however, work the pedals underneath my Hammond/Roland keyboard rig, and I do have more time these days to practice... ;-) Be well. Lord Valve alias Willie the Gimp |
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"Lord Valve" wrote in message
... when I'm not styling through Denver in my Sprinter, an 11-foot high monster which I can easily walk around in. Chortle. It's a delivery van. About as stylish as brown paper. |
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Clive George wrote:
"Lord Valve" wrote in message ... when I'm not styling through Denver in my Sprinter, an 11-foot high monster which I can easily walk around in. Chortle. It's a delivery van. About as stylish as brown paper. Chortle all you'd like, asswipe... It's a magnificent vehicle, a Mercedes van. Many of them are in use as limousines, ambulances, etc. And the CRD turbo-diesel power plant will smoke tires - and get 27 MPG on the highway, which ain't too shabby for something rated to carry 1500 kg. 20 in the city. Enjoy your Smart Car or your Vespa, Clive. It's "you." http://www.dodge.com/en/2008/sprinte...ngr/index.html Real Men Drive Sprinters. ;-) Lord Valve Stylin' |
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"Lord Valve" wrote in message
... Clive George wrote: "Lord Valve" wrote in message ... when I'm not styling through Denver in my Sprinter, an 11-foot high monster which I can easily walk around in. Chortle. It's a delivery van. About as stylish as brown paper. Chortle all you'd like, asswipe... It's a magnificent vehicle, a Mercedes van. Your defence makes it all the funnier. It's a fast transit. It's amusing that it's sold as personal transport, and even funnier if an owner thinks it's got style - over here, nobody would choose to drive one outside work. Even the blinged up minibus variants are seen as no more than utility or maybe hen night transport. They are quite efficient at carrying loads or a full complement of passengers, so they're not all bad, but that's not really the image you're aiming for, is it. |
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On Sep 8, 1:00*pm, "Clive George" wrote:
"Lord Valve" wrote in message ... Clive George wrote: "Lord Valve" wrote in message ... when I'm not styling through Denver in my Sprinter, an 11-foot high monster which I can easily walk around in. Chortle. It's a delivery van. About as stylish as brown paper. Chortle all you'd like, asswipe... It's a magnificent vehicle, a Mercedes van. Your defence makes it all the funnier. It's a fast transit. It's amusing that it's sold as personal transport, and even funnier if an owner thinks it's got style - over here, nobody would choose to drive one outside work.. Even the blinged up minibus variants are seen as no more than utility or maybe hen night transport. They are quite efficient at carrying loads or a full complement of passengers, so they're not all bad, but that's not really the image you're aiming for, is it. The Dodge Sprinter has a very nice 3L Mercedes diesel 6 engine mated to a 5-speed autotrans in it, true. And in its RV or passenger-van livery - very different shocks and springs- it has a decent ride - for what it is. Otherwise, it is a big, cheap box made to enclose the most space inside the least sheet-metal. Accordingly, it has been adopted by DHL, UPS and many other such services world-wide. Cheap and Capacious. Its suspension is best-described as 'adequate' for large loads. And it comes in several degrees of size, dual and single wheel rear axles and so forth. But it is a *truck*. And it has about as much style as an oppossum. Put another way, don't get between a Mutual Admiration Society. Facts are not relevant, stroking is the goal. Just watch it happen and pray that you are never in so desperate a position. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
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"Peter Wieck" wrote in message
... The Dodge Sprinter has a very nice 3L Mercedes diesel 6 engine mated to a 5-speed autotrans in it, true. And in its RV or passenger-van livery - very different shocks and springs- it has a decent ride - for what it is. Otherwise, it is a big, cheap box made to enclose the most space inside the least sheet-metal. Accordingly, it has been adopted by DHL, UPS and many other such services world-wide. Cheap and Capacious. Its suspension is best-described as 'adequate' for large loads. And it comes in several degrees of size, dual and single wheel rear axles and so forth. But it is a *truck*. And it has about as much style as an oppossum. As my posting addy indicates, I'm leftpondian. Sprinters have been around here for years. They're known for being quick vans, nothing more. |
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On Sep 8, 4:55*pm, Lord Valve wrote:
Andre Jute wrote: On Sep 3, 5:57 am, (Dersu Uzala) wrote: Andre spewed: But, Dumbo, before we can believe anything athttp://dieoff.org/, you first have to prove the underlying assumption of 'finite resources'. You've done no such thing. I don't know about you, but I live on the planet Earth. Trust me, neglecting the small increase in mass due to meteorites, it is a finite planet, and I haven't read about any inter-planetary ore ships docking here. Which ores are in short supply? It is widely known, and leading environmentalists were deeply embarrassed when they took a bet that ore prices would skyrocket and lost the bet, that the prices of metals and other commodities are in long-term decline through over-supply. Even petroleum isn't proven to be finite: every year there are more reserves at the contemporary price: the market is working brilliantly, despite the worst efforts of that despicable cartel, OPEC. In a finite set(Earth), all sub-sets(oil) are finite. Can you handle this math? Or do you believe new oil is made everyday? Abiotic like? How's the North Sea's production going? Isn't the UK a net importer now? Even though the North Sea oil fields have the most modern equipment, and easiest capital access? Your manner of speaking, and your entire though-pattern, is conditioned by your failure to grasp the human spirit, by the in humanity of people in your camp.You speak as if there is some natural law that we have to use petroleum forever. We don't have to. We have coal and peat and nuclear energy and water energy -- and above all we have human ingenuity. Long before the last oil is exhausted you won't be able to give the filthy stuff away, except to the poor nations, because we will have so much energy from other sources that it won't be worth digging for oil, except in low-tech economies. For practical purposes, for the century we will still use petroleum before we perfect refining hydrogen from tapwater, resources are sufficient. How does one "refine" hydrogen from water without losing energy? Entropy, ya know. A Nobel awaits you upon you answer. Zero point energy doesn't count. The cost-benefit analysis considers the cost of extraction versus the income from the use plus the indirect benefits to society (including its environment). And, of course, nuclear power is truly infinite. But this isn't about energy, is it, you nasty little necrosis, it is about giving undeserving jerks like you control over their fellows. An assumption without evidence. Please post a link that supports your insult or apologize. You posted the link, Dumbo, in which Tainter licked his lips about the violent death of tens of millions and the removal of energy from politics, which can only mean in the institution of a dictator and an energy police on the model of the Gestapo. If that isn't giving undeserving jerks like Tainter -- and by extension you, his acolyte -- control over your fellows, what is? You guys are a walking, talking Stalinist nightmare. CONCLUSION: The "order" that the scum at dieoff.org want to introduce is death, as it was in Communist Russia, Cambodia under Pol Pot, and China under Mao. Even today's Chinese are smarter than that. If we give in to these necrophiliac creeps, for the first time in history we will have a manmade energy catastrophe. I know who should die off before we permit them to create a disaster, and it is those dangerous jerks at dieoff.org. An assumption without evidence. Please post a link that supports this insult or apologize. You already posted the link with the evidence, Dumbo:http://dieoff.org/.. You further posted the relevant quotations. If you don't agree with my analysis, you must show us how energy policy can be removed from the market and effectively policed without massive force. You must further show how central planning will work better than it did in the Communist Soviet Union or in China. The rest of us know the answer: it can't work without mass murder. Really, I know you can read and work the internet. I don't care if you have had a stroke, you should not be acting the fool when it is obvious that your ability to reason is still present. Oh, I had a stroke almost forty years ago. I don't know where you ever got the idea I am in any way impaired. As for my ability to reason, it is precisely my analysis of the material you supplied which has stopped you influencing impressionable minds with the lies of Price and Tainter. I would call that a victory for reason over the enemies of society. Andre Jute Nil carborundum illegitimi Hail, good Jute-fellow! *And well met. I see you're up to your usual sensible shenanigans. *I'm not sure why you'd want to argue with another in the endless series of commie ****heads who seem to pollute the online world, but...communism it is, and not even presented in a shiny new wrapper (as by Obama et al) at that. *And I can't help but notice the myopic focus of those who insist on considering the Earth as a closed system...which it may indeed be on the micro level; however, on the macro level (which this particular type of clod seems to be completely incapable of perceiving) there are quadrillions of tonnes of resources floating around waiting for some enterprising businessmen to snap them up, and that's just in this solar system alone. *Metals, organics, gases, water, unlimited solar power...and most of it eminently accessible using technologies which have existed since the 1950s. *And anyone who thinks that's balderdash should consider the reaction of someone from, say, 1910, confronted with the prospect of obtaining petroleum from a hole drilled a mile beneath the surface of the ocean: *"Absolutely impossible - never happen." *Sure...only now, it's routine - and has been for quite awhile. Right about here is where the scoffers will boil out of the woodwork, ****ing and moaning about impossibilities and huge infrastructure investments and whatnot. *Just like that dude from 1910. *These are nearsighted people, and they will continue to **** on each other's shoes. At any rate, wherever you find someone advocating massive control of any natural resource, you can bet your sweet arse you've encountered a commie. *And that commie will almost certainly be painted green, for within the green movement is where most of them currently reside...although the Bear is grumbling of late. *Perhaps it was just hibernating, eh? *;-) Well - gotta go do my exercises. I severed my quadriceps tendon a little more than a couple of months ago, and I'm currently in the process of stretching the sewed-together remains of it back into a functional system which will allow my knee to bend more than the 90 degrees it is currently capable of. *I fear that at some point I shall have to take up bicycle riding as a form of rehabilitation; fortunately, that is at least on the other side of the coming winter. *Until then, I shall be content with hobbling around with my cane...when I'm not styling through Denver in my Sprinter, an 11-foot high monster which I can easily walk around in. *(I don't think I could drive anything smaller, since my right leg would have to be much more functional than it currently is to work the pedals in one of those miniature green-weenie things which pass for automobiles these days.) *I can, however, work the pedals underneath my Hammond/Roland keyboard rig, and I do have more time these days to practice... *;-) Be well. Lord Valve alias Willie the Gimp Yah, sometimes I get nostalgic for the days when I had a firing squad all of my own to deal with commies and fellow travellers (what Lenin described as "useful idiots") sans the wear and tear on my patience that accompanies talking to these slow-learning congenital idiots. Things really have come to a pass when a libertarian like me is more liberal than the eco-lefties -- or perhaps my patience is just shortening as I grow older, perhaps it always was like that. Andre Jute http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/B...20CYCLING.html |
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On Sep 8, 5:04*pm, "Clive George" wrote:
"Lord Valve" wrote in message ... when I'm not styling through Denver in my Sprinter, an 11-foot high monster which I can easily walk around in. Chortle. It's a delivery van. About as stylish as brown paper. You have a dumb "talent" for picking on the wrong guys, Clive. It must come from being such a British Blimp. Having an opinion is one thing, being rudely opinionated is another. -- Andre Jute |
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On Sep 8, 5:41*pm, Lord Valve wrote:
Clive George wrote: "Lord Valve" wrote in message ... when I'm not styling through Denver in my Sprinter, an 11-foot high monster which I can easily walk around in. Chortle. It's a delivery van. About as stylish as brown paper. Chortle all you'd like, asswipe... It's a magnificent vehicle, a Mercedes van. *Many of them are in use as limousines, ambulances, etc. *And the CRD turbo-diesel power plant will smoke tires - and get 27 MPG on the highway, which ain't too shabby for something rated to carry 1500 kg. *20 in the city. *Enjoy your Smart Car or your Vespa, Clive. *It's "you." http://www.dodge.com/en/2008/sprinte...ngr/index.html Real Men Drive Sprinters. *;-) Lord Valve Stylin' I wonder if that yellow you can get the Sprinter in is a faithful representation on my Mac's LCD screen. It looks a bit like the RAL1023 I used to order my Porsche painted, aka Giallo Trafico, a color chosen to be extremely visible in the mirror of slower drivers. Andre Jute Author of Colour for Professional Communicators, in the series Graphic Design in the Computer Age |
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Lemme see...
Three answers to the same issue. Medication slipping again, Andre? Certainly your wit has failed miserably if this is the best you can do. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
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In article
, Andre Jute wrote: [...] Yah, sometimes I get nostalgic for the days when I had a firing squad all of my own to deal with commies and fellow travellers (what Lenin described as "useful idiots") sans the wear and tear on my patience that accompanies talking to these slow-learning congenital idiots. Things really have come to a pass when a libertarian like me is more liberal than the eco-lefties -- or perhaps my patience is just shortening as I grow older, perhaps it always was like that. Edward? Is that you? -- Michael Press |
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In article ,
Lord Valve wrote: Hail, good Jute-fellow! And well met. I see you're up to your usual sensible shenanigans. I'm not sure why you'd want to argue with another in the endless series of commie ****heads who seem to pollute the online world, but...communism it is, and not even presented in a shiny new wrapper (as by Obama et al) at that. And I can't help but notice the myopic focus of those who insist on considering the Earth as a closed system...which it may indeed be on the micro level; however, on the macro level (which this particular type of clod seems to be completely incapable of perceiving) there are quadrillions of tonnes of resources floating around waiting for some enterprising businessmen to snap them up, and that's just in this solar system alone. Metals, organics, gases, water, unlimited solar power...and most of it eminently accessible using technologies which have existed since the 1950s. And anyone who thinks that's balderdash should consider the reaction of someone from, say, 1910, confronted with the prospect of obtaining petroleum from a hole drilled a mile beneath the surface of the ocean: "Absolutely impossible - never happen." Sure...only now, it's routine - and has been for quite awhile. Right about here is where the scoffers will boil out of the woodwork, ****ing and moaning about impossibilities and huge infrastructure investments and whatnot. Just like that dude from 1910. These are nearsighted people, and they will continue to **** on each other's shoes. At any rate, wherever you find someone advocating massive control of any natural resource, you can bet your sweet arse you've encountered a commie. And that commie will almost certainly be painted green, for within the green movement is where most of them currently reside...although the Bear is grumbling of late. Perhaps it was just hibernating, eh? ;-) Well - gotta go do my exercises. I severed my quadriceps tendon a little more than a couple of months ago, and I'm currently in the process of stretching the sewed-together remains of it back into a functional system which will allow my knee to bend more than the 90 degrees it is currently capable of. Didn't your surgeons have one of those special tools that punches a special pattern of holes into the tendon that allows it to be lengthened and then the holes grow/fill in permanently lengthening the tendon? -- Regards, John Byrns Surf my web pages at, http://fmamradios.com/ |
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Clive George wrote: "Lord Valve" wrote in message ... Clive George wrote: "Lord Valve" wrote in message ... when I'm not styling through Denver in my Sprinter, an 11-foot high monster which I can easily walk around in. Chortle. It's a delivery van. About as stylish as brown paper. Chortle all you'd like, asswipe... It's a magnificent vehicle, a Mercedes van. Your defence makes it all the funnier. It's a fast transit. It's amusing that it's sold as personal transport, and even funnier if an owner thinks it's got style - over here, nobody would choose to drive one outside work. Even the blinged up minibus variants are seen as no more than utility or maybe hen night transport. They are quite efficient at carrying loads or a full complement of passengers, so they're not all bad, but that's not really the image you're aiming for, is it. But you omitted to say the Mercedes van was designed and made in Europe, where communism doesn't flourish anymore, but where so many think very differently to communists, and are Green Minded in a big way because they think its very good for the economy and future of humanity. I do worry about Lord Valve's knee though, ****e, only 90 degrees of bend! How is a decent law abiding yankee red-neck ever going to kick a left wing arsole right up the arse nice, and hard!, with a troubly knee like LV has????? I'll chortle a little more when he describes his experience of human nature in all its dreadful uncaring manners when he begins to ride a bicycle in America. He'll soon find out about arsoles then. But never mind, Lance Armstrong, the famaous tireless American who won the TDF 7 times did fight a terrible bout of cancer during the TDF effort, and he put up with the Europeans around him. And he got run off the road by the jerks in Texas while he was training in America. America isn't very good at building road systems that allow good safe access by cyclists. Good to see LV back here and it gives spice to an otherwise dull news group..... Patrick Turner. |
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John Byrns wrote: In article , Lord Valve wrote: Hail, good Jute-fellow! And well met. I see you're up to your usual sensible shenanigans. I'm not sure why you'd want to argue with another in the endless series of commie ****heads who seem to pollute the online world, but...communism it is, and not even presented in a shiny new wrapper (as by Obama et al) at that. And I can't help but notice the myopic focus of those who insist on considering the Earth as a closed system...which it may indeed be on the micro level; however, on the macro level (which this particular type of clod seems to be completely incapable of perceiving) there are quadrillions of tonnes of resources floating around waiting for some enterprising businessmen to snap them up, and that's just in this solar system alone. Metals, organics, gases, water, unlimited solar power...and most of it eminently accessible using technologies which have existed since the 1950s. And anyone who thinks that's balderdash should consider the reaction of someone from, say, 1910, confronted with the prospect of obtaining petroleum from a hole drilled a mile beneath the surface of the ocean: "Absolutely impossible - never happen." Sure...only now, it's routine - and has been for quite awhile. Right about here is where the scoffers will boil out of the woodwork, ****ing and moaning about impossibilities and huge infrastructure investments and whatnot. Just like that dude from 1910. These are nearsighted people, and they will continue to **** on each other's shoes. At any rate, wherever you find someone advocating massive control of any natural resource, you can bet your sweet arse you've encountered a commie. And that commie will almost certainly be painted green, for within the green movement is where most of them currently reside...although the Bear is grumbling of late. Perhaps it was just hibernating, eh? ;-) Well - gotta go do my exercises. I severed my quadriceps tendon a little more than a couple of months ago, and I'm currently in the process of stretching the sewed-together remains of it back into a functional system which will allow my knee to bend more than the 90 degrees it is currently capable of. Didn't your surgeons have one of those special tools that punches a special pattern of holes into the tendon that allows it to be lengthened and then the holes grow/fill in permanently lengthening the tendon? Yeah, them tha doctors can do some real geewhiz things these days. But hope is at hand, and LV can always consult a better expert. I snapped a cruciate ligament in one knee 42 years ago which made the joint sloppy, and eventually it wore a bit, and became chronically inflamed after a week of climbing ladders with buckets of cement in one hand for roof tile repairs. Then the good knee followed suit, so I hade 2 legs with less than 90D bend. The condition went on for years until I had a minor op to trim the cartlidges, and for the last 2 years I've been riding a bike 200km a week, and making a lot of younger men look weak and slow. I've got 135D bend now, which is enough. My weight went from 102Kg to 81Kg in 6 mths after changing diet to that of the keen athlete and doing the hard work on the bicycle. If you don't keep fit, you pay a price, **** happens when the body cannot keep the appointments the brian makes for the body. One has to chuck out all the BS and addopt a New Way to stay fit and active. And the older you get, the better you was. Patrick Turner. -- Regards, John Byrns Surf my web pages at, http://fmamradios.com/ |
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Patrick Turner wrote:
Clive George wrote: "Lord Valve" wrote in message ... Clive George wrote: "Lord Valve" wrote in message ... when I'm not styling through Denver in my Sprinter, an 11-foot high monster which I can easily walk around in. Chortle. It's a delivery van. About as stylish as brown paper. Chortle all you'd like, asswipe... It's a magnificent vehicle, a Mercedes van. Your defence makes it all the funnier. It's a fast transit. It's amusing that it's sold as personal transport, and even funnier if an owner thinks it's got style - over here, nobody would choose to drive one outside work. Even the blinged up minibus variants are seen as no more than utility or maybe hen night transport. They are quite efficient at carrying loads or a full complement of passengers, so they're not all bad, but that's not really the image you're aiming for, is it. But you omitted to say the Mercedes van was designed and made in Europe, where communism doesn't flourish anymore, but where so many think very differently to communists, and are Green Minded in a big way because they think its very good for the economy and future of humanity. Nothing wrong with green, as long as it functions as well as the old way. If not, **** it. Especially if it costs more. I do worry about Lord Valve's knee though, ****e, only 90 degrees of bend! How is a decent law abiding yankee red-neck ever going to kick a left wing arsole right up the arse nice, and hard!, with a troubly knee like LV has????? Don't worry, I got two of 'em. The other one works just fine. ;-) I'll chortle a little more when he describes his experience of human nature in all its dreadful uncaring manners when he begins to ride a bicycle in America. He'll soon find out about arsoles then. But never mind, Lance Armstrong, the famaous tireless American who won the TDF 7 times did fight a terrible bout of cancer during the TDF effort, and he put up with the Europeans around him. And he got run off the road by the jerks in Texas while he was training in America. Well, that's where the Sprinter comes in. I reckon I could put maybe 20 bikes in the back of that monster. So, what I plan to do is put just one - mine - in the back, and drive it to a place where there are bicycle paths, no cars allowed. Denver, fortunately, has *lots* of bike routes along creeks and rivers, through parks, etc., such that I'll never need to encounter any motor vehicles by riding on the streets. When I'm done, back into the Sprinter goes the bike, and my (hopefully less) fat ass is homeward bound. America is ****in' HUGE, see, and most Americans (outside of densely-packed downtown metropolitan areas) simply don't consider bicycles as "transportation." Consequently, American roads aren't designed for bicyclists. And - speaking as the operator of a (rather large) motor vehicle, I *hate* ****ing bicyclists and their disdain for the rules of the road, traffic signals, lanes and so forth, and their snotty insistance that it is *my* responsibilty to ensure that they survive their uppity intrusions into my territory by not running over their ridiculous asses with my Sprinter. America isn't very good at building road systems that allow good safe access by cyclists. See above. ;-) Good to see LV back here and it gives spice to an otherwise dull news group..... Well, hell, thanks. ;-) I've been doing a lot of sitting around lately, although I'm starting to become more mobile. Ouch. Lord Valve Alias Willie da Gimp |
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Peter Wieck wrote:
On Sep 8, 1:00 pm, "Clive George" wrote: "Lord Valve" wrote in message ... Clive George wrote: "Lord Valve" wrote in message ... when I'm not styling through Denver in my Sprinter, an 11-foot high monster which I can easily walk around in. Chortle. It's a delivery van. About as stylish as brown paper. Chortle all you'd like, asswipe... It's a magnificent vehicle, a Mercedes van. Your defence makes it all the funnier. It's a fast transit. It's amusing that it's sold as personal transport, and even funnier if an owner thinks it's got style - over here, nobody would choose to drive one outside work. Even the blinged up minibus variants are seen as no more than utility or maybe hen night transport. They are quite efficient at carrying loads or a full complement of passengers, so they're not all bad, but that's not really the image you're aiming for, is it. The Dodge Sprinter has a very nice 3L Mercedes diesel 6 engine mated to a 5-speed autotrans in it, true. And in its RV or passenger-van livery - very different shocks and springs- it has a decent ride - for what it is. Otherwise, it is a big, cheap box made to enclose the most space inside the least sheet-metal. Accordingly, it has been adopted by DHL, UPS and many other such services world-wide. Cheap and Capacious. Its suspension is best-described as 'adequate' for large loads. And it comes in several degrees of size, dual and single wheel rear axles and so forth. But it is a *truck*. And it has about as much style as an oppossum. Put another way, don't get between a Mutual Admiration Society. Facts are not relevant, stroking is the goal. Just watch it happen and pray that you are never in so desperate a position. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA Hey, putzo - Far as I can see, your function here is to crap on anything anyone else likes, and then put yourself up as an expert on that thing and explain why it's crap. My money sez you never been within 100 feet of a Sprinter (excluding the last piece of **** you copped on ebay, when it was delivered by FedEx) and you've never driven one. This here's America, son, and America's BIG and Americans have lots of stuff. That's why we like trucks. In fact, I've never owned a car in my whole ****in' life, and wouldn't. Can't haul nothin' in some economy ****box, see? And if *you* (or that Euro-**** whose bulb is so dim he can't seem to figure out which side of the ****in' ocean he lives on) are the last word on "style," God help us all. Functional utility is plenty stylish if you own a business like I do, and my family and my pack of coondogs love that ****in' truck. So shove it right where the sun don't shine, Worthless - if your approval mattered more than a gnat's ass to *anyone*, I shoot myself in the ****in' head. Lord Valve As Stylish as Necessary in Denver, Colorado |
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"Lord Valve" wrote in message
... This here's America, son, and America's BIG and Americans have lots of stuff. That's why we like trucks. In fact, I've never owned a car in my whole ****in' life, and wouldn't. Can't haul nothin' in some economy ****box, see? It's not exactly a Ram 3500 or an F350. They're big hairy American man's trucks. The Sprinter is a Euro tin-van, bland and inoffensive. Suitable for a San Francisco florist or pageant organiser. Functional utility is plenty stylish if you own a business like I do, and my family and my pack of coondogs love that ****in' truck. You can get help for that. |
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On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:49:30 -0600, Lord Valve
wrote: And he got run off the road by the jerks in Texas while he was training in America. Well, that's where the Sprinter comes in. I reckon I could put maybe 20 bikes in the back of that monster. So, what I plan to do is put just one - mine - in the back, and drive it to a place where there are bicycle paths, no cars allowed. Denver, fortunately, has *lots* of bike routes along creeks and rivers, through parks, etc., such that I'll never need to encounter any motor vehicles by riding on the streets. When I'm done, back into the Sprinter goes the bike, and my (hopefully less) fat ass is homeward bound. Best watch for little kids on that bike path...I ate concrete a few times avoiding some little kid on a bike with the dumbassed parent right there not watching...even shouting "Comeing up on the left " or something like that doesn't help...hurts like a mf...especially arounf that park in the Sheridan area.. |
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On Sep 9, 2:51*pm, Patrick Turner wrote:
And the older you get, the better you was. Patrick Turner. My pulse at waking is 42. That's lower than when I was an exceedingly fit young athlete. I reckon anyone over fifty who doesn't weigh at least ten pounds more than he did at twenty has an unhealthy fascination with his body shape. But, hell, here we stand among the roadies who shave their legs, so perhaps we'll just look the other way. Andre Jute http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/B...20CYCLING.html |
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On Sep 9, 8:04*pm, Lord Valve wrote:
Peter Wieck wrote: On Sep 8, 1:00 pm, "Clive George" wrote: "Lord Valve" wrote in message ... Clive George wrote: "Lord Valve" wrote in message ... when I'm not styling through Denver in my Sprinter, an 11-foot high monster which I can easily walk around in. Chortle. It's a delivery van. About as stylish as brown paper. Chortle all you'd like, asswipe... It's a magnificent vehicle, a Mercedes van. Your defence makes it all the funnier. It's a fast transit. It's amusing that it's sold as personal transport, and even funnier if an owner thinks it's got style - over here, nobody would choose to drive one outside work. Even the blinged up minibus variants are seen as no more than utility or maybe hen night transport. They are quite efficient at carrying loads or a full complement of passengers, so they're not all bad, but that's not really the image you're aiming for, is it. The Dodge Sprinter has a very nice 3L Mercedes diesel 6 engine mated to a 5-speed autotrans in it, true. And in its RV or passenger-van livery - very different shocks and springs- *it has a decent ride - for what it is. Otherwise, it is a big, cheap box made to enclose the most space inside the least sheet-metal. Accordingly, it has been adopted by DHL, UPS and many other such services world-wide. Cheap and Capacious. Its suspension is best-described as 'adequate' for large loads. And it comes in several degrees of size, dual and single wheel rear axles and so forth. But it is a *truck*. And it has about as much style as an oppossum. Put another way, don't get between a Mutual Admiration Society. Facts are not relevant, stroking is the goal. Just watch it happen and pray that you are never in so desperate a position. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA Hey, putzo - Far as I can see, your function here is to crap on anything anyone else likes, and then put yourself up as an expert on that thing and explain why it's crap. *My money sez you never been within 100 feet of a Sprinter (excluding the last piece of **** you copped on ebay, when it was delivered by FedEx) and you've never driven one. *This here's America, son, and America's BIG and Americans have lots of stuff. That's why we like trucks. *In fact, I've never owned a car in my whole ****in' life, and wouldn't. *Can't haul nothin' in some economy ****box, see? *And if *you* (or that Euro-**** whose bulb is so dim he can't seem to figure out which side of the ****in' ocean he lives on) are the last word on "style," God help us all. * Worthless Wiecky is so named because he is useless and immoral; he's a jumped-up janitor with a compulsion to drain the glee from other people's hobbies. Clive George is different only in that he is a British blimp; he feels that being British is adequate excuse for being useless and immoral; I've lost count of the times this wretched little man told people the components on their bikes are inadequate because they didn't buy the most expensive. Functional utility is plenty stylish if you own a business like I do, and my family and my pack of coondogs love that ****in' truck. *So shove it right where the sun don't shine, Worthless - if your approval mattered more than a gnat's ass to *anyone*, I shoot myself in the ****in' head. Lord Valve As Stylish as Necessary in Denver, Colorado Almost forty years ago, long before Mrs Thatcher arrived to save Britain from going down the toilet, I ran our European operations out of London for as many days a year as I could spend in Britain without being hit with the punitive tax rate of 98% (that's not a misprint; look it up) plus a wealth tax on assets which essentially meant that everyone competent worked for the incompetent socialist government. For some of the rest of the year I lived in Cologne. Paris or Turin would have been more convenient for everyone else but I liked going to the little opera houses that every German town of any size sported. We had a Grosser Mercedes, the Popemobile 600, that we kept for my opera outings because I liked holding meetings while I drove (well, I had to really, as I never rose until lunchtime and after lunch it was time to set off to dinner and the opera, so if you wanted to speak to me you came to the opera with me), and you couldn't fly to the opera because the airports weren't big enough to take the company jet -- hell, one place with an American-built runway big enough to take the Lear had an opera house but was too small to have a taxi, so we had to walk to the opera house, my personal staff of miniskirts cursing in their high heels. The commander of the nearby base sent a staff car to the opera house to return us to the plane. After I totalled this Panzergruppefuhrermobil when I ran out of road before managing to pass an American Army convoy travellng at about 75mph on a B-road, I ordered a VW Kombi and had a Porsche flat-six engine fitted; I breathed on the suspension myself. It was a bit exciting braking hard on a wet autobahn at high speed -- almost 140mph max, faster than the Grosser -- but it was by far the best truck I ever owned (or had the use of, since technically most of the cars I ever "owned" belonged to the shareholders); it made Range Rovers look positively insipid even after one threw out the limp Rover V8 engine (a superior Buick alloy design the British ruined by tacky assembly) in favour of a supercharged big-block Chevy. Here's a big secret. A thoughtfully designed van has super aerodynamics. This is because the centre of aerodynamic pressure starts so far back and keeps moving back as it picks up speed. The Kombi, for instance, had a CdA in the same bracket as a Jaguar E-type but in some conditions it had superior handling because, for instance, longitudinal corner radii were smaller. Andre Jute Author of Designing and Constructing Special Cars published by Batsford in London and Bentley in Boston, several other editions. |
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"Andre Jute" wrote in message
... Clive George is different only in that he is a British blimp; he feels that being British is adequate excuse for being useless and immoral; I've lost count of the times this wretched little man told people the components on their bikes are inadequate because they didn't buy the most expensive. Oh dear. Shall we return to our conversation from a while back? You're a liar, and you've just proved it. |
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In article ,
JP wrote: On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:49:30 -0600, Lord Valve wrote: And he got run off the road by the jerks in Texas while he was training in America. Well, that's where the Sprinter comes in. I reckon I could put maybe 20 bikes in the back of that monster. So, what I plan to do is put just one - mine - in the back, and drive it to a place where there are bicycle paths, no cars allowed. Denver, fortunately, has *lots* of bike routes along creeks and rivers, through parks, etc., such that I'll never need to encounter any motor vehicles by riding on the streets. When I'm done, back into the Sprinter goes the bike, and my (hopefully less) fat ass is homeward bound. Best watch for little kids on that bike path...I ate concrete a few times avoiding some little kid on a bike with the dumbassed parent right there not watching...even shouting "Comeing up on the left " or something like that doesn't help...hurts like a mf...especially arounf that park in the Sheridan area.. You were going too fast for conditions. Your own fault, not theirs. -- Michael Press |
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On Sep 10, 12:24*am, "Clive George" wrote:
"Andre Jute" wrote in message ... Clive George is different only in that he is a British blimp; he feels that being British is adequate excuse for being useless and immoral; I've lost count of the times this wretched little man told people the components on their bikes are inadequate because they didn't buy the most expensive. Oh dear. Shall we return to our conversation from a while back? You're a liar, and you've just proved it. Count the number of times you've used "bottom-of-the-range Shimano" or a similar phrase, Clive, and you'll see I'm right. You're a snob and that's all there is to it. Wouldn't be so bad if you had something to be snobby about. Andre Jute Nothing but the best |
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"Andre Jute" wrote in message
... On Sep 10, 12:24 am, "Clive George" wrote: "Andre Jute" wrote in message ... Clive George is different only in that he is a British blimp; he feels that being British is adequate excuse for being useless and immoral; I've lost count of the times this wretched little man told people the components on their bikes are inadequate because they didn't buy the most expensive. Oh dear. Shall we return to our conversation from a while back? You're a liar, and you've just proved it. Count the number of times you've used "bottom-of-the-range Shimano" or a similar phrase, Clive, and you'll see I'm right. Um, no. Don't try and wriggle your way out of it - count how many times I've said only the most expensive will do. My pointing out that your Tourney BB is bottom of the range doesn't count. (Personally I use UN5x, which is mid-range Shimano - and an awful long way from being the most expensive). You're a liar. |
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On Sep 10, 1:32*am, "Clive George" wrote:
"Andre Jute" wrote in message ... On Sep 10, 12:24 am, "Clive George" wrote: "Andre Jute" wrote in message .... Clive George is different only in that he is a British blimp; he feels that being British is adequate excuse for being useless and immoral; I've lost count of the times this wretched little man told people the components on their bikes are inadequate because they didn't buy the most expensive. Oh dear. Shall we return to our conversation from a while back? You're a liar, and you've just proved it. Count the number of times you've used "bottom-of-the-range Shimano" or a similar phrase, Clive, and you'll see I'm right. Um, no. Don't try and wriggle your way out of it - count how many times I've said only the most expensive will do. My pointing out that your Tourney BB is bottom of the range doesn't count. (Personally I use UN5x, which is mid-range Shimano - and an awful long way from being the most expensive). You're a liar. I do beg your pardon, Clive. Let's amend the accusation to suit you better: Clive George is different only in that he is a British blimp; he feels that being British is adequate excuse for being useless and immoral; I've lost count of the times this wretched little man told people the components on their bikes are inadequate because they didn't buy a more expensive item. Happy now? Andre Jute Bored |
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This thread started out discussing the survival of Mankind and maybe a
few women for breeding purposes only, of course -- this is after all a cycling conference where real men shave their legs. Now it's descended into Clive George trying to prove he isn't a Brit blimp. Thus passes all flesh on the internet. I'm out of it. Andre Jute Not nostalgic for the Union at all |
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"Andre Jute" wrote in message
... Clive George is different only in that he is a British blimp; he feels that being British is adequate excuse for being useless and immoral; I've lost count of the times this wretched little man told people the components on their bikes are inadequate because they didn't buy the most expensive. Oh dear. Shall we return to our conversation from a while back? You're a liar, and you've just proved it. Count the number of times you've used "bottom-of-the-range Shimano" or a similar phrase, Clive, and you'll see I'm right. Um, no. Don't try and wriggle your way out of it - count how many times I've said only the most expensive will do. My pointing out that your Tourney BB is bottom of the range doesn't count. (Personally I use UN5x, which is mid-range Shimano - and an awful long way from being the most expensive). You're a liar. I do beg your pardon, Clive. Let's amend the accusation to suit you better: Clive George is different only in that he is a British blimp; he feels that being British is adequate excuse for being useless and immoral; I've lost count of the times this wretched little man told people the components on their bikes are inadequate because they didn't buy a more expensive item. Happy now? I'm happy, but mostly in this context because I'm still being amused by your lying. |
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On Sep 9, 8:32*pm, "Clive George" wrote:
You're a liar. And you just figured this out? LV at least has an excuse. He makes an actual living at tube-related stuff, so despite his questionable taste (and only that) and politics, he does have a functional need for such a van. And so one might understand why he would be enamoured of its function over its lack of macho pretensions - and it has none. Andre, on the other hand is a full-time poseur, liar and charlatan. With received wisdom on tubes, likely on bicycles as well, although I know so little about that subject that he could equally be the 'second coming'. However, as the old expression goes: If you are so smart, why aren't you rich? Applies in spades to Mr. Jute. Keep in mind that Mr. Jute is 63 +/- years old... It is quite doubtful that he ran much of anything in his 20s. However, he has lied and embellished for so many years that he has forgotten his own lies... So, not even a very good liar. Once again, don't get in the way of a mutual admiration society (AKA: Circle Jerk). Just stand back and let it happen, all the while counting your blessings that you need not be part of it. Oh, and expect the range of sock-puppets along shortly. Grey Glasser et.al.. Andre tends to circle the wagon (singlular deliberate) when his lack of clothes becomes obvious - yet even sadder as an emperor, he isn't. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
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"Lord Valve" (who?) anonymously snipes:
[...] Far as I can see, your function here is to crap on anything anyone else likes, and then put yourself up as an expert on that thing and explain why it's crap. My money sez you never been within 100 feet of a Sprinter (excluding the last piece of **** you copped on ebay, when it was delivered by FedEx) and you've never driven one. This here's America, son, and America's BIG and Americans have lots of stuff. That's why we like trucks. In fact, I've never owned a car in my whole ****in' life, and wouldn't. Can't haul nothin' in some economy ****box, see?... I have moved six (6) times using nothing larger than a Honda Civic. Some people have way too much crap. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia “Mary had a little lamb / And when she saw it sicken / She shipped it off to Packingtown / And now it’s labeled chicken.” |
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Peter Wieck wrote:
[...] With received wisdom on tubes, likely on bicycles as well, although I know so little about that subject that he could equally be the 'second coming'.[...] Most audiophiles are middle aged, pasty and overweight. Cycling would do them much good. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia “Mary had a little lamb / And when she saw it sicken / She shipped it off to Packingtown / And now it’s labeled chicken.” |
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Lord Valve (who?) anonymously snipes:
[...] Well, that's where the Sprinter comes in. I reckon I could put maybe 20 bikes in the back of that monster. So, what I plan to do is put just one - mine - in the back, and drive it to a place where there are bicycle paths, no cars allowed. Denver, fortunately, has *lots* of bike routes along creeks and rivers, through parks, etc., such that I'll never need to encounter any motor vehicles by riding on the streets. When I'm done, back into the Sprinter goes the bike, and my (hopefully less) fat ass is homeward bound. Why not use the bike as transportation? America is ****in' HUGE, see, and most Americans (outside of densely-packed downtown metropolitan areas) simply don't consider bicycles as "transportation." Most USians are fat and ignorant, since they think they need 2 tons of steel around them to go more than 50 feet. Consequently, American roads aren't designed for bicyclists. And - speaking as the operator of a (rather large) motor vehicle, I *hate* ****ing bicyclists and their disdain for the rules of the road, traffic signals, lanes and so forth, and their snotty insistance that it is *my* responsibilty to ensure that they survive their uppity intrusions into my territory by not running over their ridiculous asses with my Sprinter. Dude, multi-use paths are actually more dangerous than vehicular cycling on the roads. But with your attitude, we will not cry for you when you discover this the hard way. America isn't very good at building road systems that allow good safe access by cyclists.[...] The roads are fine. It is the anti-social cagers that are the problem. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia “Mary had a little lamb / And when she saw it sicken / She shipped it off to Packingtown / And now it’s labeled chicken.” |
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Michael Press wrote:
In article , Andre Jute wrote: [...] Yah, sometimes I get nostalgic for the days when I had a firing squad all of my own to deal with commies and fellow travellers (what Lenin described as "useful idiots") sans the wear and tear on my patience that accompanies talking to these slow-learning congenital idiots. Things really have come to a pass when a libertarian like me is more liberal than the eco-lefties -- or perhaps my patience is just shortening as I grow older, perhaps it always was like that. Edward? Is that you? Dolan? -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia “Mary had a little lamb / And when she saw it sicken / She shipped it off to Packingtown / And now it’s labeled chicken.” |
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On Sep 10, 3:31*am, Tom Sherman
wrote: "Lord Valve" (who?) anonymously snipes: Lord Valve isn't anonymous. His nom de internet is instantly connectable to his real name and to a business of the highest repute in Denver. Fat Willie as his familiars call him is highly valued among guitar performers, and among literate libertarians on the net for his forthright expression and exquisite care with the language. An anonymous poster is one to whom you cannot attach a name or an address to serve a libel suit, and he is accordingly despicable. By contrast Lord Valve stands behind the goods he sells and his opinion, foursquare and with a gun in his hand when necessary, furthermore backed by coonhounds trained to sniff out pinkos and lunch on them. These days, with so many limpwristed legshavers around, that makes Lord Valve a rare American original. Andre Jute A known quantity |
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On Sep 10, 3:42*am, Tom Sherman
wrote: Peter Wieck wrote: [...] With received wisdom on tubes, likely on bicycles as well, although I know so little about that subject that he could equally be the 'second coming'.[...] If Worthless Wiecky knows tuppence worth about tubes no one on rec.audio.tubes has ever been privileged to be let into secret. Worthless arrived on RAT several years ago and in his first post abused me and hasn't stopped since. Abusing me, or anyone I approve of, is his entire profile. He makes zero contibution, so I just ignore him. He's a netstalker, pure and simple. Most audiophiles are middle aged, pasty and overweight. Cycling would do them much good. Indeed. Unfortunately for your generalization, the three audiophiles who contributed to RBT recently, John Byrns, Patrick Turner and me, are all hard cases, Patrick and I being constant cyclists to boot. We fit only one of your particulars, in that we are indubitably middleaged. But even that we do not consider to be pejorative, as all it means is that we shall live to be well over ninety. Worthless Wiecky published a photograph of himself; he fits all your particulars (fat, ugly, unhealthy), except the controlling one: he's not an audiophile, he's just a netstalker. Andre Jute Creator of Worthless Wieckless TM. All Rights Reserved by McCoy-Jute Exploitation. Patent Pending. Licences still available for North Korea and Lesotho. Our Attorneys are Bigger than Your Shysters. |
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Who should be first to die off in the "energy crisis"?
Andre Jute wrote:
Here's a big secret. A thoughtfully designed van has super aerodynamics. This is because the centre of aerodynamic pressure starts so far back and keeps moving back as it picks up speed. The Kombi, for instance, had a CdA in the same bracket as a Jaguar E-type but in some conditions it had superior handling because, for instance, longitudinal corner radii were smaller. Andre Jute Author of Designing and Constructing Special Cars published by Batsford in London and Bentley in Boston, several other editions. ROFL the original Kombi had a Cd of 0.76, later versions improved to 0.42, the E-type had a Cd of around 0.3 (depending on the model and which source you believe). It gets even worse when you compare the CdA, the Kombi had a far greater frontal area than the Jag. As for a Kombi handling better than the Jag, the Jag was never the best handling car of it's era, but surely you are joking, after all you do claim to be an expert on the subject (and on every other subject really). Like the old joke says "Anybody who believes that the Germans have no sense of humour has never driven a Kombi in a side wind". Keith |
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Who should be first to die off in the "energy crisis"?
Lord Valve wrote:
This here's America, son, and America's BIG and Americans have lots of stuff. That's why we like trucks. In fact, I've never owned a car in my whole ****in' life, and wouldn't. Can't haul nothin' in some economy ****box, see? And if *you* (or that Euro-**** whose bulb is so dim he can't seem to figure out which side of the ****in' ocean he lives on) are the last word on "style," God help us all. Functional utility is plenty stylish if you own a business like I do, and my family and my pack of coondogs love that ****in' truck. So shove it right where the sun don't shine, Worthless - if your approval mattered more than a gnat's ass to *anyone*, I shoot myself in the ****in' head. Lord Valve As Stylish as Necessary in Denver, Colorado An excellent example of why Americans are so disliked around the world. You are driving a cheap euro tin box designed by Mercedes for German plumbers to travel in between sewer unblocking jobs. If the Sprinter floats your boat then fine, but if you think that it makes you special, you are going to end up looking stupid. Keith |
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Who should be first to die off in the "energy crisis"?
On Sep 9, 11:46*pm, Andre Jute wrote:
Indeed. Unfortunately for your generalization, the three audiophiles who contributed to RBT recently, John Byrns, Patrick Turner and me, are all hard cases, Patrick and I being constant cyclists to boot. Andre, with all due respect, your "contributions" to tubes are for the most part unsubstantiated, unsupported attacks on anyone and anything that has ever questioned your equally unsubstantiated and unsupported claims past, present and future. As to "sucking the pleasure out of the hobby", you manage that quite nicely with your... well see "unsubstantiated and unsupported" above. "Blimp" may be a cliche for a Brit of a certain age and type, but as for you, a South African who ran to the most homogeneous country in Europe out of pure fear (if you can generalize about others with no evidence, so can I), you have no claim whatsoever to a superior mien. Rather, you are a desperate, trembling little twit living through a wildly inflated self-image supported by anecdotes of doubtful veracity. Again, as the old song goes, if you are so smart, how come you ain't rich? Individuals with any sort of actual richness in their lives tend not to be such immodest, whining little poseurs as you. Nor would they have anyone believe that they ran the world as you quite often claim. It is so sad that you derive your entire validation from venues such as this. One last - John Byrns, despite being an odious personality, knows more about tube-craft than you have ever known even in your wildest pretense. Not that he actually contributes much lately - mostly he trolls for exception and chases obscure points. You and he do rear up as injured virgin spinsters when your behavior is ever questioned, so you do share that trait. Patrick, on the other hand, has an equanimity and self-confidence that you would do well to emulate. My guess is that because he largely practices what he preaches and largely enjoys his life, as to most of the "others" here including me. Try it some time. It will give you another perspective that might create a little light in your life - where by all the evidence none exists now. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
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Who should be first to die off in the "energy crisis"?
On Sep 9, 10:42*pm, Tom Sherman
wrote: Most audiophiles are middle aged, pasty and overweight. Cycling would do them much good. Of course. And most individuals who ride bicycles (and enjoy tubes - not quite the same thing as 'audiophile' by any means) are quite happy to enjoy the ride without any sort of pretense or making a crusade of it. I enjoy tubes. I know quite a lot about the care and feeding of tube equipment. Makes me a hobbyist, not a pundit. Hell, I can even do an FM-stereo alignment on a tube tuner - so I have a bit of craft, not a gift from the major and minor gods. Sometimes I can be helpful to others in the hobby. A very small contribution to the good of it, no more. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
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Who should be first to die off in the "energy crisis"?
Yo' 'Dre,
C'mon down to my trailer park in Georgia. There's 100 just like him. His kind is about as rare in these parts as kudzu. J By contrast Lord Valve stands behind the goods he sells and his opinion, foursquare and with a gun in his hand when necessary, furthermore backed by coonhounds trained to sniff out pinkos and lunch on them. These days, with so many limpwristed legshavers around, that makes Lord Valve a rare American original. Andre Jute A known quantity |
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