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Ad you thought your system was high end?
http://www.kipnis-studios.com/The_Ki...ndard/KSS.html
"A KSS 8.8 Hexagonal Surround Sound System necessarily features 96 separate speaker drivers powered by 36 amplifiers (50 are in my design specifications for this sized room and seating requirements). By using this many hand matched amplifiers with hand picked tubes, I achieve a previously unheard level of fidelity, where each and every mix offers a noticeably different character, features its own authentic sound space which changes from scene to scene (or track to track), and which is reproducable at accurate and realistic listening levels under ultra quiet (NR. 4 dB/SPL) acoustically controlled ( 3 ms at all audible frequencies) listening conditions." I understand that pricing starts in the middle six-figures. |
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Ad you thought your system was high end?
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ...
http://www.kipnis-studios.com/The_Ki...ndard/KSS.html "A KSS 8.8 Hexagonal Surround Sound System necessarily features 96 separate speaker drivers powered by 36 amplifiers (50 are in my design specifications for this sized room and seating requirements). By using this many hand matched amplifiers with hand picked tubes, I achieve a previously unheard level of fidelity, where each and every mix offers a noticeably different character, features its own authentic sound space which changes from scene to scene (or track to track), and which is reproducable at accurate and realistic listening levels under ultra quiet (NR. 4 dB/SPL) acoustically controlled ( 3 ms at all audible frequencies) listening conditions." I understand that pricing starts in the middle six-figures. This one might do for casual use. http://www.royaldevice.com/custom.ht...20TOTAL%20HORN -- Earl |
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Ad you thought your system was high end?
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:54:31 -0700, Earl Kiosterud wrote
(in article ): "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... http://www.kipnis-studios.com/The_Ki...ndard/KSS.html "A KSS 8.8 Hexagonal Surround Sound System necessarily features 96 separate speaker drivers powered by 36 amplifiers (50 are in my design specifications for this sized room and seating requirements). By using this many hand matched amplifiers with hand picked tubes, I achieve a previously unheard level of fidelity, where each and every mix offers a noticeably different character, features its own authentic sound space which changes from scene to scene (or track to track), and which is reproducable at accurate and realistic listening levels under ultra quiet (NR. 4 dB/SPL) acoustically controlled ( 3 ms at all audible frequencies) listening conditions." I understand that pricing starts in the middle six-figures. This one might do for casual use. http://www.royaldevice.com/custom.ht...20TOTAL%20HORN Now, THAT'S a serious listening room. I don't know that I would want to live with a system like that, but I'd sure like to hear it! |
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"Sonnova" wrote in message
This one might do for casual use. http://www.royaldevice.com/custom.ht...20TOTAL%20HORN Now, THAT'S a serious listening room. I don't know that I would want to live with a system like that, but I'd sure like to hear it! The sad part of the story is that sonic performance like that does not require architectural resources like that. It's possible to build a very serious high performance listening room without anything like that sort of commitment. A modern engineering approach might even provide higher performance with only a tiny fraction of the hardware. |
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Ad you thought your system was high end?
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ...
"Sonnova" wrote in message This one might do for casual use. http://www.royaldevice.com/custom.ht...20TOTAL%20HORN Now, THAT'S a serious listening room. I don't know that I would want to live with a system like that, but I'd sure like to hear it! The sad part of the story is that sonic performance like that does not require architectural resources like that. It's possible to build a very serious high performance listening room without anything like that sort of commitment. A modern engineering approach might even provide higher performance with only a tiny fraction of the hardware. Indeed. You gotta wonder why, with a big horn like that, they still use so many huge woofers. Why not just make the horn longer? They say the back wall is treated to be anechoic, but unless there's some serious low-frequency back-wall-reflection controls in place, and it doesn't look as though there is -- they don't mention anything specific like bass traps -- the bass response is going to be full of nulls. And they claim "All frequencies from 30 to 9000 Hz are reproduced by speakers with NO CROSSOVER in a full-range modality." Well who's done that in a truly successful way? Bose tried. Didn't work well. In short, this is just an extreme example of hardware overkill that HAS to sound good, to them, simply for its extravagance. It appears to solve problems by throwing larger problems at it. -- Earl |
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Ad you thought your system was high end?
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:32:12 -0700, Arny Krueger wrote
(in article ): "Sonnova" wrote in message This one might do for casual use. http://www.royaldevice.com/custom.ht...20TOTAL%20HORN Now, THAT'S a serious listening room. I don't know that I would want to live with a system like that, but I'd sure like to hear it! The sad part of the story is that sonic performance like that does not require architectural resources like that. It's possible to build a very serious high performance listening room without anything like that sort of commitment. A modern engineering approach might even provide higher performance with only a tiny fraction of the hardware. Still and all, I bet a pipe organ sounds awesome. A lot of the problem with domestic listening rooms is simply that they aren't big enough for extremely long wave-lengths. The folded horn under this listening room's floor should take care of that problem. Don't misunderstand me, here. Get it wrong, or don't take standing waves into consideration when designing and even a room like this might not work... |
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"Sonnova" wrote in message
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:32:12 -0700, Arny Krueger wrote (in article ): "Sonnova" wrote in message The sad part of the story is that sonic performance like that does not require architectural resources like that. It's possible to build a very serious high performance listening room without anything like that sort of commitment. A modern engineering approach might even provide higher performance with only a tiny fraction of the hardware. Still and all, I bet a pipe organ sounds awesome. FWIW, by modern standards, pipe organs aren't all that challenging to reproduce. A lot of the problem with domestic listening rooms is simply that they aren't big enough for extremely long wave-lengths. That is a myth. Long wavelengths are arguably more easily reproduced in smaller rooms. Every room has a frequency below which an approximate 12 dB/octave boost is added. The smaller the room the higher the frequency. This is one reason why car audio systems can have exceptional bass without a lot of big speaker drivers. The folded horn under this listening room's floor should take care of that problem. Horns are good for efficiency and directivity control, but they have to be huge to work well at low frequencies like say 10 Hz. Don't misunderstand me, here. Get it wrong, or don't take standing waves into consideration when designing and even a room like this might not work... That's another advantage of smaller rooms - they can't be all that effective at supporting standing waves at very low frequencies. |
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