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Your Opinion on Tube Amp Reliability???
I am considering going to a tube amp, after 25 years of solid state
amps. (Specifically, it is a conrad-johnson, but my question is general.) I have read comments through the years about the problems tube amps have ("always in the shop", etc.). Is this a reality? I live in a town with no tube amp dealers, and would need to send it back to the manufacturer if it fails. Are my knees quaking for no good reason? By the way, I don't consider the need to bias the tubes a problem. I would be grateful for any feedback. --Leslie |
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I repair high end audio, and I do as much or more solid state than
tube, and most of my customers are tube equipment sellers. Tubes do require more care and feeding than solid state though. As long as you keep an eye on bias and periodically replace the output tubes in particular, ther's no reason a tube amp won't be as reliable. Conrad-Johnson are particularly good. On Thu, 27 May 2004 20:09:20 GMT, "Spongebob" wrote: I am considering going to a tube amp, after 25 years of solid state amps. (Specifically, it is a conrad-johnson, but my question is general.) I have read comments through the years about the problems tube amps have ("always in the shop", etc.). Is this a reality? I live in a town with no tube amp dealers, and would need to send it back to the manufacturer if it fails. Are my knees quaking for no good reason? By the way, I don't consider the need to bias the tubes a problem. I would be grateful for any feedback. --Leslie Dan Santoni DTS Audio Hamilton, ON Canada |
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I am probably going to get into trouble for saying this , but the higher
end tube amps sound the same as solid state. We are going to need more information about what you intend to drive in what size room. Could you live with an integrated amp or do you want to go bananas with dual mono amplifiers. As far as sending amps back to the manufacturer is concerned, I think that is a good idea if you do need repairs but it is a rare occurence. What dealers do you have nearby or within 90 miles? Would you be buying a new Conrad Johnson or a used one? Spongebob wrote: I am considering going to a tube amp, after 25 years of solid state amps. (Specifically, it is a conrad-johnson, but my question is general.) I have read comments through the years about the problems tube amps have ("always in the shop", etc.). Is this a reality? I live in a town with no tube amp dealers, and would need to send it back to the manufacturer if it fails. Are my knees quaking for no good reason? By the way, I don't consider the need to bias the tubes a problem. I would be grateful for any feedback. --Leslie |
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spongebob wrote:
I am considering going to a tube amp, after 25 years of solid state amps. (Specifically, it is a conrad-johnson, but my question is general.) I have read comments through the years about the problems tube amps have ("always in the shop", etc.). Is this a reality? I live in a town with no tube amp dealers, and would need to send it back to the manufacturer if it fails. Are my knees quaking for no good reason? By the way, I don't consider the need to bias the tubes a problem. I would be grateful for any feedback. --Leslie Tube amplifiers have both their proponents and detractors. Comments about lack of reliability and/or high repair needs from the latter group are, AFAIK, not supported by any empirical evidence indicating those claims are valid. I can only speak from personal experience, of course. Starting with the first amplifier I ever owned, an integrated H.H. Scott amplifier that I built, up to the present time, I've owned various tubed products, including a DAC with a tubed output stage. None of these products has presented any unusual service needs. Tube replacement is necessary at some point of extended usage, but that is simply a maintenance issue. For the record, I'm currently using a Conrad Johnson preamplifier and amplifier, both tubed, and have had no problems with either one of them. Bruce J. Richman |
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"Philip Meech" wrote:
I am probably going to get into trouble for saying this , but the higher end tube amps sound the same as solid state. We are going to need more information about what you intend to drive in what size room. My room in 20 x 14, with an 8' ceiling. Could you live with an integrated amp or do you want to go bananas with dual mono amplifiers. I think an integrated amp will do me fine. I don't ever "turn it up". I have Spendor SP 1/2 speakers on Sound Anchor stands. Kimber 8TC cable, various interconnects. As far as sending amps back to the manufacturer is concerned, I think that is a good idea if you do need repairs but it is a rare occurence. What dealers do you have nearby or within 90 miles? Would you be buying a new Conrad Johnson or a used one? I have no dealer within 200 miles, so I will be buying over the Internet. --Leslie |
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Bruce J. Richman wrote:
Tube amplifiers have both their proponents and detractors. Comments about lack of reliability and/or high repair needs from the latter group are, AFAIK, not supported by any empirical evidence indicating those claims are valid. Lack of reliability or the converse is relative. Given equal design attention to reliability, tube amplifiers are simply not as reliable as solid state amplifiers, especially as regards power amplifiers. The natural manufacturing variances in tubes themselves, the the increased heat produced by them, (meaning increased stresses on associated components) and the higher voltages dictate the empirical facts of the matter. |
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There are some integrateds in all price ranges by C-J, Audio Research,
VTL, Manley, VAC if you have the bucks. Next level is varios amps made in China and then upgraded with the latest high end parts. I emailed you a website in Western NY that specializes in those around 1-1.5K for 50wpc. There are some issues surrounding the depth of soundstage in your room versus the proper amount of power, but other members are more qualified than I to discuss the right amount. There are integrated amps that go up to 85wpc. If you need more, then a preamp/amp setup is required like Bruce has. Spongebob wrote: "Philip Meech" wrote: I am probably going to get into trouble for saying this , but the higher end tube amps sound the same as solid state. We are going to need more information about what you intend to drive in what size room. My room in 20 x 14, with an 8' ceiling. Could you live with an integrated amp or do you want to go bananas with dual mono amplifiers. I think an integrated amp will do me fine. I don't ever "turn it up". I have Spendor SP 1/2 speakers on Sound Anchor stands. Kimber 8TC cable, various interconnects. As far as sending amps back to the manufacturer is concerned, I think that is a good idea if you do need repairs but it is a rare occurence. What dealers do you have nearby or within 90 miles? Would you be buying a new Conrad Johnson or a used one? I have no dealer within 200 miles, so I will be buying over the Internet. --Leslie |
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Spongebob wrote:
I am considering going to a tube amp, after 25 years of solid state amps. (Specifically, it is a conrad-johnson, but my question is general.) I have read comments through the years about the problems tube amps have ("always in the shop", etc.). Is this a reality? I live in a town with no tube amp dealers, and would need to send it back to the manufacturer if it fails. Are my knees quaking for no good reason? By the way, I don't consider the need to bias the tubes a problem. I would be grateful for any feedback. --Leslie Leslie: You sound like me about 9 years ago. Although you didn't provide any indication of your budget, I STRONGLY recommend the Balanced Audio Technology tube amps; not only are they excellent sounding and extremely well made, the company stands behind its products. Owning their tube amps is not that much different from solid state as they are self-biasing and the tube complement typically lasts 4 - 5 years. Check them out at http://www.balanced.com/. Happy listening! Jack |
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Phillip Meech wrote:
There are some integrateds in all price ranges by C-J, Audio Research, VTL, Manley, VAC if you have the bucks. Next level is varios amps made in China and then upgraded with the latest high end parts. I emailed you a website in Western NY that specializes in those around 1-1.5K for 50wpc. There are some issues surrounding the depth of soundstage in your room versus the proper amount of power, but other members are more qualified than I to discuss the right amount. There are integrated amps that go up to 85wpc. If you need more, then a preamp/amp setup is required like Bruce has. Just for the record, my preamp/amplifier combination has approximately 70-75 watts/channel. The C-J Premier 11A is rated at 70 watts/channel into 4 or 8 ohms with its supplied 6550 output tubes. However, I'm using Ei KT-90 Type 3s which, according to several tube experts, produce slightly more power in most amplifiers suitable for their use. Before switching to KT-90s, I checked with C-J and was assured this was an appropriate "tweak". Spongebob wrote: "Philip Meech" wrote: I am probably going to get into trouble for saying this , but the higher end tube amps sound the same as solid state. We are going to need more information about what you intend to drive in what size room. My room in 20 x 14, with an 8' ceiling. Could you live with an integrated amp or do you want to go bananas with dual mono amplifiers. I think an integrated amp will do me fine. I don't ever "turn it up". I have Spendor SP 1/2 speakers on Sound Anchor stands. Kimber 8TC cable, various interconnects. As far as sending amps back to the manufacturer is concerned, I think that is a good idea if you do need repairs but it is a rare occurence. What dealers do you have nearby or within 90 miles? Would you be buying a new Conrad Johnson or a used one? I have no dealer within 200 miles, so I will be buying over the Internet. --Leslie Bruce J. Richman |
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Your Opinion on Tube Amp Reliability???
On 5/27/04 6:40 PM, in article y7utc.5462$eY2.1777@attbi_s02,
" wrote: Bruce J. Richman wrote: Tube amplifiers have both their proponents and detractors. Comments about lack of reliability and/or high repair needs from the latter group are, AFAIK, not supported by any empirical evidence indicating those claims are valid. Lack of reliability or the converse is relative. Given equal design attention to reliability, tube amplifiers are simply not as reliable as solid state amplifiers, especially as regards power amplifiers. The natural manufacturing variances in tubes themselves, the the increased heat produced by them, (meaning increased stresses on associated components) and the higher voltages dictate the empirical facts of the matter. A tube will generally have fewer hours on them between replacement than semiconductors - though the repair is fairly straightforward and simple for an end user to do. A semiconductor failure is generally catastrophic in that it will blow up and the amplifier will have to be sent in for repair. |
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jjnunes wrote:
Bruce J. Richman wrote: Tube amplifiers have both their proponents and detractors. Comments about lack of reliability and/or high repair needs from the latter group are, AFAIK, not supported by any empirical evidence indicating those claims are valid. Lack of reliability or the converse is relative. Given equal design attention to reliability, tube amplifiers are simply not as reliable as solid state amplifiers, especially as regards power amplifiers. The natural manufacturing variances in tubes themselves, the the increased heat produced by them, (meaning increased stresses on associated components) and the higher voltages dictate the empirical facts of the matter. For the average purchaser contemplating purchase of an amplifier, I would suspect that reliability would be defined more practically by a manufacturer's "track record". More specifically, factors such as build quality, attention to design, as you mention, etc. may play a large role, whether the product be tubed or SS in determining its "reliability". As regards heat considerations, I've often heard it reported that many Class A amplifiers, for example, tend to "run quite hot" compared to others and may require relatively massive heat sinks to dissipate some of that heat. If this is true, then it would seem that tubes are not the only item on an amplifier's parts list that can produce heat. I would recommend that prospective purchasers try and get as much information about the specific amplifier - and that manufacturer's reputation for reliability - as they can, whether it be a SS or tubed amplifier. Of course, if there are published empirical results indicating higher return rates or service calls for tubed amplifiers than for SS amplifiers - or vice versa - it would be interesting to see. Those in a better position to answer this question re. reliability would be, manufacturers who have been selling both types of amplifiers for years - e.g. Conrad Johnson or Audio Research. Or perhaps audio dealers who have been selling both types of amplifiers over a length of time. In their experience, is there a significant difference in the relative %age of service requests as a function of sales volume? That is the type of data I'd be looking at, along with a given manufacturer's reputation, rather than relying on generalizations based on a given bias (no pun intended) for one class of products or the other. Bruce J. Richman |
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Bruce J. Richman wrote:
jjnunes wrote: Bruce J. Richman wrote: Tube amplifiers have both their proponents and detractors. Comments about lack of reliability and/or high repair needs from the latter group are, AFAIK, not supported by any empirical evidence indicating those claims are valid. Lack of reliability or the converse is relative. Given equal design attention to reliability, tube amplifiers are simply not as reliable as solid state amplifiers, especially as regards power amplifiers. The natural manufacturing variances in tubes themselves, the the increased heat produced by them, (meaning increased stresses on associated components) and the higher voltages dictate the empirical facts of the matter. For the average purchaser contemplating purchase of an amplifier, I would suspect that reliability would be defined more practically by a manufacturer's "track record". More specifically, factors such as build quality, attention to design, as you mention, etc. may play a large role, whether the product be tubed or SS in determining its "reliability". As regards heat considerations, I've often heard it reported that many Class A amplifiers, for example, tend to "run quite hot" compared to others and may require relatively massive heat sinks to dissipate some of that heat. If this is true, then it would seem that tubes are not the only item on an amplifier's parts list that can produce heat. You seemed to have missed the meaning of what I said: "Given equal design attention to reliability." Are class A amplifiers only solid state? Those in a better position to answer this question re. reliability would be, manufacturers who have been selling both types of amplifiers for years - e.g. Conrad Johnson or Audio Research. Or perhaps audio dealers who have been selling both types of amplifiers over a length of time. In their experience, is there a significant difference in the relative %age of service requests as a function of sales volume? That is the type of data I'd be looking at, along with a given manufacturer's reputation, rather than relying on generalizations based on a given bias (no pun intended) for one class of products or the other. I am one of those in that have been in that position. In design, testing, manufacturing and servicing. It is simply an honest appraisal of my experience and those of many I was associated with. It is a given among those who have done it, and dealing with it is part of being in the business of tube amplifiers. And you suggest inordinate bias without any evidence? People buy tube amps because they simply like and prefer them, and they are willing to put up with the additional reliability issues for that reason. |
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"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
news:IBxtc.1542$IB.25@attbi_s04... Those in a better position to answer this question re. reliability would be, manufacturers who have been selling both types of amplifiers for years - e.g. Conrad Johnson or Audio Research. Or perhaps audio dealers who have been selling both types of amplifiers over a length of time. In their experience, is there a significant difference in the relative %age of service requests as a function of sales volume? That is the type of data I'd be looking at, along with a given manufacturer's reputation, rather than relying on generalizations based on a given bias (no pun intended) for one class of products or the other. I had a pair of Audio Research D76As which ran heavy duty for about 18 years driving the tweeters of Tympani 1-Cs with the original four (GE) 6550 tubes in place, ditto for the rest (Amperex, '70s vintage). I sent one of the amps to ARC for service because I felt it was "spitting" too loudly. ARC sent it back saying it was running according to spec and did zip to it. I had to unload them because they weren't able to drive 3/4 ohm Tympanis. I chose those amps because of their supposed synergy with Maggies in the years before I knew better. |
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Bromo wrote:
On 5/27/04 6:40 PM, in article y7utc.5462$eY2.1777@attbi_s02, " wrote: Bruce J. Richman wrote: Tube amplifiers have both their proponents and detractors. Comments about lack of reliability and/or high repair needs from the latter group are, AFAIK, not supported by any empirical evidence indicating those claims are valid. Lack of reliability or the converse is relative. Given equal design attention to reliability, tube amplifiers are simply not as reliable as solid state amplifiers, especially as regards power amplifiers. The natural manufacturing variances in tubes themselves, the the increased heat produced by them, (meaning increased stresses on associated components) and the higher voltages dictate the empirical facts of the matter. A tube will generally have fewer hours on them between replacement than semiconductors - though the repair is fairly straightforward and simple for an end user to do. A semiconductor failure is generally catastrophic in that it will blow up and the amplifier will have to be sent in for repair. A lot of tube amps burn up cathode and plate resistors when a tube becomes defective. Some have more designed in reserve capacity to handle this than others. Most tube power amps need an AC balance adjustment after replacing an output tube unless the owner is willing to accept substandard performance. (or replace the whole output stage with matched pairs) Sometimes they decide they prefer the second harmonic distortion when they don't and don't bother. Yes, in the days of Flame Linear and etc. a lot of SS amps blew and destroyed speakers. (so have tube OTL's) Devices have come a long way since then and SOA is generally very much higher. Nothing is perfect, but some are closer than others. But in general, tube amps require more attention. Users accept this because they like them. |
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Gentlemen,
Thank you all sincerely for your thoughtful answers. The knowledge on newsgoups is amazing. I'm not afraid to buy a tube amp now. --Leslie |
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On 5/28/04 6:47 PM, in article EjPtc.6864$js4.145@attbi_s51, "Spongebob"
wrote: Gentlemen, Thank you all sincerely for your thoughtful answers. The knowledge on newsgoups is amazing. I'm not afraid to buy a tube amp now. --Leslie Fantastic!!! Let us know how it goes - and be sure to audition more than one! |
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If it helps, you can always buy a tube preamp and a solid state power
amp and get some tube sound without the maintenance worries and heat generation of a tube power amp. That also affords a better match to most loudspeakers. You also gain better control over the woofers, which is a low point for most tube amps. The combinations are endless. -Bill www.uptownaudio.com Roanoke VA (540) 343-1250 "Spongebob" wrote in message news:EjPtc.6864$js4.145@attbi_s51... Gentlemen, Thank you all sincerely for your thoughtful answers. The knowledge on newsgoups is amazing. I'm not afraid to buy a tube amp now. --Leslie |
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What exactly is "tube sound"?
John "Uptown Audio" wrote in message news:g%puc.27378$n_6.27262@attbi_s53... If it helps, you can always buy a tube preamp and a solid state power amp and get some tube sound without the maintenance worries and heat generation of a tube power amp. |
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"Spongebob" wrote in message news:MVrtc.636$pt3.139@attbi_s03...
I have read comments through the years about the problems tube amps have ("always in the shop", etc.). Is this a reality? I live in a town with no tube amp dealers, and would need to send it back to the manufacturer if it fails. Are my knees quaking for no good reason? My personal experience having owned 2 tube amps and a few solid state amps is that tubes are not as reliable as solid state and require more maintenance. Mine didn't "break" but they do drift and require adjustment. Also they were more delicate and more sensitive to interference from RF and such. And the tubes must be replaced every X hours. With the tube amps I had some kind of issue to deal with (adjustment, tube replacement, etc.) every 6 months or so. In comparison, my transistor amps need maintenance every 5 years. So that's about 10 times more reliable / lower maintenance. |
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... "Spongebob" wrote in message news:MVrtc.636$pt3.139@attbi_s03... I have read comments through the years about the problems tube amps have ("always in the shop", etc.). Is this a reality? I live in a town with no tube amp dealers, and would need to send it back to the manufacturer if it fails. Are my knees quaking for no good reason? I have owned and enjoyed both tube and ss amps. Owning a high end tube amp is akin to driving a high end sports car. If you want the perks and tweeks to always work well, you must be willing to put up with slightly less reliability and a little more on-going maintenance which is not inexpensive. But, for the people who enjoy and want the tube sound, I suppose it's worth it. Owning a ss amp is like driving a Toyota, it _may_ not give the best performance always, but it hardly ever breaks. And the fact you can bitch to your cronies about how long so and so's repair shop had your super duper tube amplifier in for repair will certainly garner you some respect and/or sympathy! Ha! |
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This is a very good suggestion. However, I am utilizing the suggestions of
a fellow named Andre Jean Quintal in making my choice. Did you ever read any of his many postings on rec.high-end and other audio forums? He really impressed me through the years. Someone asked him once what amplifiers would work well with the Spendor SP 1/2s, which I have. Mr. Quintal's suggestions we the Conrad-Johnson CAV-50, NAIM, or Electrocompaniet. Of those, I chose the c-j, and hence my question about tube reliability. If my former system, I used a tube pre-amp and a SS amplifier with good success, but the Spendor SP1/2s I have now are considerably brighter than the Spendor SP-1s I used with that system. I welcome your comments! --Leslie "Uptown Audio" wrote in message news:g%puc.27378$n_6.27262@attbi_s53... If it helps, you can always buy a tube preamp and a solid state power amp and get some tube sound without the maintenance worries and heat generation of a tube power amp. That also affords a better match to most loudspeakers. You also gain better control over the woofers, which is a low point for most tube amps. The combinations are endless. -Bill www.uptownaudio.com Roanoke VA (540) 343-1250 |
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"t.hoehler" wrote in message
news:5zKuc.24791$js4.14920@attbi_s51... And the fact you can bitch to your cronies about how long so and so's repair shop had your super duper tube amplifier in for repair will certainly garner you some respect and/or sympathy! Ha! Owning an Ampzilla II, the design of which was minus Mr. Borngiorna, I believe I own the most unreliable amplifier *ever* manufactured. It is SS of course, and seems to have spent more time in various repair shops than hooked up in my past system(s). At about the same time I purchased 2 ARC D-76A's which never needed repair or even new tubes! I don't see any respect coming from repairs, since the longer its been on someone's bench getting new parts, etc. the more UNLIKE it ends up being like the manufacturer's original product. Within the last 6 months I had my 'zilla II repaired by an associate of Mr. Borngiorno, recommended to me by him. Mr B. wrote that he never had the original zilla come back to him. I can't say for certain whether he meant to say this applied to the original product as received by the buyer OR after his first repair, of it. My 'zilla II is now driving my front speakers in a HT system, which I can also listen to while sitting at the computer and it seems to be holding up. I'd be able to recommend this CA based repairman to anyone else, however I believe he's fed up with zillas, having needed Mr. B's input on the repair of mine. When it comes to repair I must be the world's most experienced individual. Anyone one else would have chucked it long ago or put it up on Ebay as a "parts" component. |
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"t.hoehler" wrote in message
news:5zKuc.24791$js4.14920@attbi_s51... Owning a ss amp is like driving a Toyota, it _may_ not give the best performance always, but it hardly ever breaks. You got that right. We have leased four Toyota 4Runners. I'm presently driving a 2004 4Runner and two Bryston 7B ST amplifiers. Now if only those Toyotas came with a 20 year transferable warranty and never needed *any* service or repairs as is the case with the amps, that would make my day (or life)! However I do take exception about your comments about performance. Any suggestions as to what would make my Tympani IVa's perform any better, SS or tube at any price? |
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Well, I stand by my comment about tube reliability and getting the
most performance for the dollar while still achieving some of the sound characteristics of a tube amp. As someone else commented you can get good accurate sound from a few modern tube amps these days, but you need to accept their maintenance issues. I did not like the Cav-50 and found it to sound "dull". Some people love that syrupy, smooth stuff but it wears off on me quickly. It also takes that amp forever (an hour) to reach it's optimum temp and stabilize for best sound quality. C-J amps also can be hard on tubes as they run rather hot, your milage may vary. I had one (a power amp with EL34's years ago and it needed new tubes twice a year!). That was unacceptable for me and I found the bass to be "soft" or fuzzy" although it was very well extended. I then bi-amped and fixed that problem, but got tired of having all my rack space gone and wasting so much time and money on tube replacement and extra amplifiers. One good amp is plenty, just choose a nice one that you like the sound of. One trouble is that you are not able to hear those sounds easily at your home. You simply must either trust advise from others (which may be honest and well intened while still running counter to your tastes) or pack-up and visit a metro area with a couple of good dealers to listen. I would recommend a Bryston 3B-SST power amplifier and a Rogue Audio 66 preamplifier for a well balanced, dynamic sound that has some tube depth, without the loss of control or tube failure/expense issues if you do like the idea of mixing ss and vt. Iuse the 3B-SST myself and it represents the third Bryston amplifier in my rack, so I keep coming back to their various models. I have also used the Rogue Audio 66 in my system, but replaced it with the very much more expensive Bryston BP25DA / BP1.5 combination. I still like tube amps and am sure that I will use one again for some time. The only way to gain true experiences is to have them, so I do swap components after a while regardless of their appeal and economy. -Bill www.uptownaudio.com Roanoke VA (540) 343-1250 "Spongebob" wrote in message news:czKuc.24793$js4.14119@attbi_s51... This is a very good suggestion. However, I am utilizing the suggestions of a fellow named Andre Jean Quintal in making my choice. Did you ever read any of his many postings on rec.high-end and other audio forums? He really impressed me through the years. Someone asked him once what amplifiers would work well with the Spendor SP 1/2s, which I have. Mr. Quintal's suggestions we the Conrad-Johnson CAV-50, NAIM, or Electrocompaniet. Of those, I chose the c-j, and hence my question about tube reliability. If my former system, I used a tube pre-amp and a SS amplifier with good success, but the Spendor SP1/2s I have now are considerably brighter than the Spendor SP-1s I used with that system. I welcome your comments! --Leslie "Uptown Audio" wrote in message news:g%puc.27378$n_6.27262@attbi_s53... If it helps, you can always buy a tube preamp and a solid state power amp and get some tube sound without the maintenance worries and heat generation of a tube power amp. That also affords a better match to most loudspeakers. You also gain better control over the woofers, which is a low point for most tube amps. The combinations are endless. -Bill www.uptownaudio.com Roanoke VA (540) 343-1250 |
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"t.hoehler" wrote in message news:5zKuc.24791$js4.14920@attbi_s51...
Owning a high end tube amp is akin to driving a high end sports car. If you want the perks and tweeks to always work well, you must be willing to put up with slightly less reliability and a little more on-going maintenance which is not inexpensive. But, for the people who enjoy and want the tube sound, I suppose it's worth it. Owning a ss amp is like driving a Toyota, it _may_ not give the best performance always, but it hardly ever breaks. IMO, a more apt car analogy is a tube amp is a kit car like an FFR Shelby Cobra replica, where a SS amp is a factory production car like a Corvette. The kit car doesn't really have better performance, just more character. It's for the enthusiast who likes owning a unique hand crafted piece of engineering art and is willing to give it the extra TLC it requires, even though it offers no real objectively measurable performance advantage. It doesn't get around the racetrack any faster than the Vette (it may even be slower), yet it gives the driver a more visceral experience and a bigger grin on his face. OTOH, if you're the guy who just wants to have a competitive car to win his season trophy, doesn't want to mess with it too much, doesn't care about owning a beautiful piece of art or the visceral wind in the face experience, then the Vette (e.g. solid state) is more suitable. |
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