Lionel wrote:

Nexus 6 wrote:



Lionel wrote:


Saint-Etienne, 70km south-west of Lyon.
The town where are manufactured JMLab speakers. Watch the leaflets.



Outstanding speakers, by the way.

Who says the French can't do anything right?


I've worked a long time for US companies (Rockwell...).
I have a certain habit of *this* sarcasm.
But I still appreciate your American fellows because in most cases they
stop after their first trip in France. ;-)

Stop visitng or quit the sarcasm?

Nexus 6

(Nousaine) wrote in message ...

There never was a bust; only a bubble that caused people to think they "lost"
money they never really had OR to spend money they never had.

The cool factor is that the 401K tax deferral thing makes wealthy people out of
commoners. I personally know of manytelephone operators who started in the
60s, were encouraged to save 10% of their salary from the start, moved into
management jobs (the Bell System companies always chose first line managers
from the ranks) and with the help of pensions, ESOP and 401K retired as
millionaires. Only in America.

This is anecdotal. Poverty and median income have hardly budged since
1973, despite the fact that there are vastly higher labor
participation rates for women and increases in two-parent households.
This is because of the enormous increase in inequality, so that
despite growth, the gains have gone largely to wealthy households.
There was some improvement of these measures during the 1990s despite
soaring inequality, but those gains were wiped out in the current
recession, when poverty rose.

As for the bubble, many widely held stocks are indeed lower than they
were before the bubble--AT&T, for instance. If you bought it before
the breakup into the regional bells you would have done well, but not
if you bought it after:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=T&t=my

Where I said "two-parent households" I meant two-earner households.

"Jacob Kramer" wrote in message
om
(Nousaine) wrote in message
...

There never was a bust; only a bubble that caused people to think
they "lost" money they never really had OR to spend money they never
had.

The cool factor is that the 401K tax deferral thing makes wealthy
people out of commoners. I personally know of many telephone
operators who started in the 60s, were encouraged to save 10% of
their salary from the start, moved into management jobs (the Bell
System companies always chose first line managers from the ranks)
and with the help of pensions, ESOP and 401K retired as
millionaires. Only in America.

This is anecdotal.

IME it's factual.

Poverty and median income have hardly budged since
1973, despite the fact that there are vastly higher labor
participation rates for women and increases in two-parent households.

So what? Where is it written in stone that these indicators must improve?
What things have happened in the past 30 years that would tend to force
poverty up and median income down?

This is because of the enormous increase in inequality, so that
despite growth, the gains have gone largely to wealthy households.

I think you just contradicted yourself. You just cited statistics that
suggest that there has been no real growth, and then you claim that there
has been real growth.

There was some improvement of these measures during the 1990s despite
soaring inequality, but those gains were wiped out in the current
recession, when poverty rose.

And the statistics proving this claimed increase in inequality are where? I
don't even see any convincing anecdotes. I see zero support for the claim
that inequality has increased.

As for the bubble, many widely held stocks are indeed lower than they
were before the bubble--AT&T, for instance. If you bought it before
the breakup into the regional bells you would have done well, but not
if you bought it after:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=T&t=my

Where is it written that a given line of business, such as those pursued by
AT&T will remain consistently profitable. If you actually followed business
periodicals, you would have no doubt seen many references to what AT&T
management did wrong since the break-up. Are you saying that even though the
management of a company makes significant mistakes, the profitability of the
company should remain constant or grow?

TCS wrote:

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 03:22:19 GMT, Joseph Oberlander wrote:

Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:
80+ billion is going to be a hard pill for our children
to swallow. That would tank any economy.


That's just one year's bill for georgieboy's playtime in iraq.

The grand total for bush's playtime in the whitehouse is going to be more like
3 trillion, plus the interest (6-15 trillion?) while that money is owed.

****, we haven't even started to pay off the money borrowed while reagon ****ed
around with the soviets.

What's scary is that unless we have roughly 5-10% growth for the next 20 solid
years, there's no way to balance the books anymore. We will crash and implode.
Sooial Security will be the last of our problems.

That's what happens when you buy now and leave it up to your grandchildren
to figure out how to pay the bills.

Nexus 6 wrote:



John Stone wrote:

in article AaHlb.2482$d87.1075@okepread05, Nexus 6 at
wrote on 10/22/03 9:35 PM:



Michael Mckelvy wrote:


Easy fix. Get the government out of it.


Government isn't in it.

What planet are you living on?


Exactly. The insurance industry pays dearly to keep it that way.


Our premiums just rose 40% at the start of October, and all of the fees
and deductibles have gone up considerably. Some of this is the
industry's reaction to years of ****ty investments it made and took a
pounding on - the rest is to pad profits and price poorer people (who
tend to have more health problems) out of the market, thus reducing
their liability.

Commoditization of health is criminal.

But, unfortunately, inevetable when a society runs itself on credit.
Those who cannot stretch any farther - sorry...

You see - the problem with capatalism run amok is that it tends to
de-evolve into a feudal economic system. While everyone is technically
free and equal, those who cannot play at the level of the ever-shrinking
middle-class turn into faceless masses with no power, education, or
equality. In other words, peasants. They may be "free" on paper, but
they will never make enough money to not be free of those who use them
as an expendable resource.

Based upon historical norms, the U.S. is only a few generations from
imploding and ceasing to exist.

Of course, you think that we would have learned and become smarter,
but those in power are always shortshighted self-serving.

Obie said:

That's what happens when you buy now and leave it up to your grandchildren
to figure out how to pay the bills.

Amazing how much money Dubya has raised for his reelection campaign,
isn't it? Or maybe not......

George M. Middius wrote:


Obie said:


That's what happens when you buy now and leave it up to your grandchildren
to figure out how to pay the bills.


Amazing how much money Dubya has raised for his reelection campaign,
isn't it? Or maybe not......

Really not, considering the whole "Me" generation is running the nation.

Obie said:

Amazing how much money Dubya has raised for his reelection campaign,
isn't it? Or maybe not......

Really not, considering the whole "Me" generation is running the nation.

BZZZZZZT!

Care to try again?

George M. Middius wrote:

Obie said:


That's what happens when you buy now and leave it up to your grandchildren
to figure out how to pay the bills.


Amazing how much money Dubya has raised for his reelection campaign,
isn't it? Or maybe not......

You mean his *election* campaign, and yes, iut will be an
all time record by a very long mile.

Nexus 6

Joseph Oberlander wrote:

Nexus 6 wrote:



John Stone wrote:

in article AaHlb.2482$d87.1075@okepread05, Nexus 6 at

wrote on 10/22/03 9:35 PM:



Michael Mckelvy wrote:



Easy fix. Get the government out of it.



Government isn't in it.

What planet are you living on?


Exactly. The insurance industry pays dearly to keep it that way.



Our premiums just rose 40% at the start of October, and all of the
fees and deductibles have gone up considerably. Some of this is the
industry's reaction to years of ****ty investments it made and took a
pounding on - the rest is to pad profits and price poorer people (who
tend to have more health problems) out of the market, thus reducing
their liability.

Commoditization of health is criminal.


But, unfortunately, inevetable when a society runs itself on credit.
Those who cannot stretch any farther - sorry...

You see - the problem with capatalism run amok is that it tends to
de-evolve into a feudal economic system. While everyone is technically
free and equal, those who cannot play at the level of the ever-shrinking
middle-class turn into faceless masses with no power, education, or
equality. In other words, peasants. They may be "free" on paper, but
they will never make enough money to not be free of those who use them
as an expendable resource.

Based upon historical norms, the U.S. is only a few generations from
imploding and ceasing to exist.

Of course, you think that we would have learned and become smarter,
but those in power are always shortshighted self-serving.

Dude.

You're letting the cat out of theproverbial bag.

Cut it out.

Nexus 6

Here's an excerpt from the letter:



:::sniparoo:::

There's nothing wrong with the Bush and Cheney regime that Lee Harvey Oswald
couldn't have cured.


Socko Van Puppet

"Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message
nk.net...
George M. Middius wrote:


Obie said:


That's what happens when you buy now and leave it up to your
grandchildren
to figure out how to pay the bills.


Amazing how much money Dubya has raised for his reelection campaign,
isn't it? Or maybe not......

Really not, considering the whole "Me" generation is running the nation.


and BOTH parties.




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On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:55:35 -0400, Sockpuppet Yustabe
wrote:

"TCS" wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 10:38:41 -0700, Michael Mckelvy
wrote:


a failing economy,

Rebounding nicely. John should stick to what he knows.

I've been hearing that for 2 years now. The economy isn't close
to
recovering from the hysteria after 9/11.

Actually 9-11 has little to do with it.

The hysteria after 9-11 had everything to do with it.

I was job hunting at the beginning of 2002. Went looking for
"engineering,software", "EDP", "programming", "software engineers",
"computer..." and the rest of the other titles for software
development
jobs. There wasn't ONE. Scanned the entire job ads from A to Z and
there wasn't a single software development job ad.

That was february 2002. In my 20 years experience, this has NEVER
happened before. Even now there aren't 25% the listings there were
in
any given sunday from 1981 to 2001.

Compare August 2000 with August 2001, August 2002 and
August 2003. That should develop some sort of trend line that
would put 9-11 in perspective, whatever the answer might be.


For some real education study what has happened here after every major
tax
cut. While the left bitches that tax cuts for everybody benefit the
rich
most, what happens is they wind up paying more taxes because they spend
more.


Which is because they earn more.

Duh!


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On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:28:12 -0700, "Michael Mckelvy"
wrote:

For some real education study what has happened here after every major tax
cut. While the left bitches that tax cuts for everybody benefit the rich
most, what happens is they wind up paying more taxes because they spend
more.

Hint: start with the 1920's.

Why don't you just provide us with the numbers.

--

Jacob Kramer

(Jacob Kramer) wrote:

(Nousaine) wrote in message
...

There never was a bust; only a bubble that caused people to think they
"lost"
money they never really had OR to spend money they never had.

The cool factor is that the 401K tax deferral thing makes wealthy people
out of
commoners. I personally know of manytelephone operators who started in the
60s, were encouraged to save 10% of their salary from the start, moved into
management jobs (the Bell System companies always chose first line managers
from the ranks) and with the help of pensions, ESOP and 401K retired as
millionaires. Only in America.

This is anecdotal. Poverty and median income have hardly budged since
1973, despite the fact that there are vastly higher labor
participation rates for women and increases in two-parent households.
This is because of the enormous increase in inequality, so that
despite growth, the gains have gone largely to wealthy households.

Depends on who you classify as wealthy. If you mean single women from dirt or
blue collar backgrounds then you are wrong; at least with the people I've been
talking about. Women, disabled, black women who were able to get to work
regularly, competently perform 'assembly-line' level jobs, save 10% of their
salary from the start, move into 1st line management (only place that was used
.....college types like me started in 2nd level jobs), some who used the
tuiton-reimburement to get degrees and at least one who became a vice-president
retired as millionares.

I know these people.

There was some improvement of these measures during the 1990s despite
soaring inequality, but those gains were wiped out in the current
recession, when poverty rose.

Sure the people who gained were no longer counted as 'inequal.' You're speaking
to one of those poor-types who were disadvantaged during this time.

I lived in an orphanage during my jr-high-school years. What a break for me. I
was "drafted" during a term at not-full-time and spent a year in Vietnam.

It retrospect it was a great opportunity. I came to know Vietnam civilians
personally, I saw the conditons they lived under, I came home and got the
GI-Bill to help finish school.

Did I mention that I also worked full time night shift at the Press Plant at
Oldsmobile during this time?

Only in America can a small town 2nd generation Finno-American retire from
telecommunciations and continue to make a living testing speakers/audio
systems.


As for the bubble, many widely held stocks are indeed lower than they
were before the bubble--AT&T, for instance. If you bought it before
the breakup into the regional bells you would have done well, but not
if you bought it after:


Of course you can always point to individual stocks; but I'm looking at overall
market statistics which help take out individual decisions. Which is why,
although I still own 2000 SBC shares which were in my company payback-part, my
portfolio is still above the level I expected when I did my retirement analysis
in 1996.

I extrapolated that if the market continued to improve at the 7% long term
compound rate (7500 in 2003) that I would be in good shape.

What I didn't do as my 402K value exploded in the 1998-2000 years is spend
money I didn't have.

So here I am in 2003; my "fortune" is intact; I didn't spend money I never
really had, and I'm working so much I wonder if I'm really retired.

Orhpan solidarity !!!

Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:


Really not, considering the whole "Me" generation is running the nation.



and BOTH parties.

Ah. You too noticed that there is no difference other than what
hot button topic they throw at you as a distraction.

Jacob Kramer wrote:

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:28:12 -0700, "Michael Mckelvy"
wrote:


For some real education study what has happened here after every major tax
cut. While the left bitches that tax cuts for everybody benefit the rich
most, what happens is they wind up paying more taxes because they spend
more.

Hint: start with the 1920's.


Why don't you just provide us with the numbers.


No numbers in his "hoax-world", just intuition.

Greg Pierce wrote:

[snip French military defeats through centuries]

The question for any country silly enough to count on the French
should not be "Can we count on the French?", but rather "How long
until France collapses?"

"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without an
- accordion. All you do is leave behind a lot of noisy baggage."


Ooops sorry Sir I forgot to give you what you was waiting for !
Could you please comment the following :

http://www.vietnampix.com/life1a.htm

-------------------------------------------------------------------

For the all others, many apologies for the above it's not funny but this
guy is really too stupid.

Lionel

Dogma4e wrote:

They would have been cheering
louder had we been marched under your wretched arch on the way to the
death camps.


I will tell you a secret that you should never repeat around you.
Put your ear against your screen... Ready ? So listen.

"Death camps never existed. It's an hoax from American Jewish community."

You understand now why I required your total discretion.

Dogma4e wrote:

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:53:30 +0200, Lionel
wrote:


I will tell you a secret that you should never repeat around you.
Put your ear against your screen... Ready ? So listen.

"Death camps never existed. It's an hoax from American Jewish community."

You understand now why I required your total discretion.



Yes, I do. Because the National Socialist Party is outlawed in France.
Sieg Heil, Lionel.... You represent France perfectly.


You are my friend now, I'm sure that I can be confident.

Dogma4e wrote:

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:08:33 +0200, Lionel
wrote:


Dogma4e wrote:


On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:53:30 +0200, Lionel
wrote:


I will tell you a secret that you should never repeat around you.
Put your ear against your screen... Ready ? So listen.

"Death camps never existed. It's an hoax from American Jewish community."

You understand now why I required your total discretion.



Yes, I do. Because the National Socialist Party is outlawed in France.
Sieg Heil, Lionel.... You represent France perfectly.



You are my friend now, I'm sure that I can be confident.


Well, this is a distraction for me, so I suggest we call it a draw.
If you promise not to tell lies about America, I will promise not to
tell the truth about France. ;-)

And vice versa...

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:53:30 +0200, Lionel
wrote:


I will tell you a secret that you should never repeat around you.
Put your ear against your screen... Ready ? So listen.

"Death camps never existed. It's an hoax from American Jewish community."

You understand now why I required your total discretion.


Yes, I do. Because the National Socialist Party is outlawed in France.
Sieg Heil, Lionel.... You represent France perfectly.

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:08:33 +0200, Lionel
wrote:

Dogma4e wrote:

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:53:30 +0200, Lionel
wrote:


I will tell you a secret that you should never repeat around you.
Put your ear against your screen... Ready ? So listen.

"Death camps never existed. It's an hoax from American Jewish community."

You understand now why I required your total discretion.



Yes, I do. Because the National Socialist Party is outlawed in France.
Sieg Heil, Lionel.... You represent France perfectly.


You are my friend now, I'm sure that I can be confident.

Well, this is a distraction for me, so I suggest we call it a draw.
If you promise not to tell lies about America, I will promise not to
tell the truth about France. ;-)

Joseph Oberlander wrote:

Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:


Really not, considering the whole "Me" generation is running the nation.



and BOTH parties.


Ah. You too noticed that there is no difference other than what
hot button topic they throw at you as a distraction.

Two wings of the Big Business party.

Nexus 6

Lionel wrote:


"Death camps never existed. It's an hoax from American Jewish community."


I hope you aren't serious.

Nexus 6

Nexus 6 said:

"Death camps never existed. It's an hoax from American Jewish community."

I hope you aren't serious.

Of course La Salope is joking. The serious version goes like this:

"Death camps never existed. It's an hoax from the Polish Jewish
community."

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:58:56 -0400, George M. Middius
wrote:



Nexus 6 said:

"Death camps never existed. It's an hoax from American Jewish community."

I hope you aren't serious.

Of course La Salope is joking. The serious version goes like this:

"Death camps never existed. It's an hoax from the Polish Jewish
community."



They used the same movie set to film the "death camps", as they used
to film the Apollo moon landings. Probably located at Area 51.

Dogma4e said:

Of course La Salope is joking. The serious version goes like this:

"Death camps never existed. It's an hoax from the Polish Jewish
community."

They used the same movie set to film the "death camps"

In "Saving Private Ryan"?

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:11:53 -0400, George M. Middius
wrote:



Dogma4e said:

Of course La Salope is joking. The serious version goes like this:

"Death camps never existed. It's an hoax from the Polish Jewish
community."

They used the same movie set to film the "death camps"

In "Saving Private Ryan"?



You'd have to ask Tom Hanks. He should know for sure about both sets.

On 24 Oct 2003 05:33:36 GMT, (Nousaine) wrote:

(Jacob Kramer) wrote:

(Nousaine) wrote in message
...

There never was a bust; only a bubble that caused people to think they
"lost"
money they never really had OR to spend money they never had.

The cool factor is that the 401K tax deferral thing makes wealthy people
out of
commoners. I personally know of manytelephone operators who started in the
60s, were encouraged to save 10% of their salary from the start, moved into
management jobs (the Bell System companies always chose first line managers
from the ranks) and with the help of pensions, ESOP and 401K retired as
millionaires. Only in America.

This is anecdotal. Poverty and median income have hardly budged since
1973, despite the fact that there are vastly higher labor
participation rates for women and increases in two-parent households.
This is because of the enormous increase in inequality, so that
despite growth, the gains have gone largely to wealthy households.

Depends on who you classify as wealthy. If you mean single women from dirt or
blue collar backgrounds then you are wrong; at least with the people I've been
talking about. Women, disabled, black women who were able to get to work
regularly, competently perform 'assembly-line' level jobs, save 10% of their
salary from the start, move into 1st line management (only place that was used
....college types like me started in 2nd level jobs), some who used the
tuiton-reimburement to get degrees and at least one who became a vice-president
retired as millionares.

I know these people.

Yes there are individual successes (there is both upward and downward
social mobility), but in the aggregate the poverty rate hasn't
improved, and median income hasn't improved very much.

snip

As for the bubble, many widely held stocks are indeed lower than they
were before the bubble--AT&T, for instance. If you bought it before
the breakup into the regional bells you would have done well, but not
if you bought it after:


Of course you can always point to individual stocks; but I'm looking at overall
market statistics which help take out individual decisions. Which is why,
although I still own 2000 SBC shares which were in my company payback-part, my
portfolio is still above the level I expected when I did my retirement analysis
in 1996.

I extrapolated that if the market continued to improve at the 7% long term
compound rate (7500 in 2003) that I would be in good shape.

What I didn't do as my 402K value exploded in the 1998-2000 years is spend
money I didn't have.

So here I am in 2003; my "fortune" is intact; I didn't spend money I never
really had, and I'm working so much I wonder if I'm really retired.

Orhpan solidarity !!!

Quite frankly you deserve a round of applause for managing your
finances so carefully and with so much discipline. But I think there
is a limit to how much can be extrapolated from your case. Many
people were indeed hurt by the recent stock market collapse. In part
this was because of mistakes made by those with less financial acumen
or prudence than you under newly liberalized 401k regulations. But it
was also because of misstated earnings, dishonest stock
recommendations, phony revenue bookings and other forms of fraud by
telecom, technology, and brokerage and mutual fund companies, the
exectives of which have been steadily coming under indictment and
successful class-action prosecutions. The tech bubble was an enormous
ponzi scheme, and many people were in fact fleeced.

Separately under the Bush administration there have been continuous
job losses, which have still not stopped:

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/24/opinion/24KRUG.html

New unemployment claims are still running at 400,000 a month, which
means that the number of jobs is not growing.

--

Jacob Kramer

Dogma4e said:

"Death camps never existed. It's an hoax from the Polish Jewish
community."

They used the same movie set to film the "death camps"

In "Saving Private Ryan"?

You'd have to ask Tom Hanks. He should know for sure about both sets.

Which movie were you talking about when you said "the same movie set"?

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:40:04 -0400, George M. Middius
wrote:



Dogma4e said:

"Death camps never existed. It's an hoax from the Polish Jewish
community."

They used the same movie set to film the "death camps"

In "Saving Private Ryan"?

You'd have to ask Tom Hanks. He should know for sure about both sets.

Which movie were you talking about when you said "the same movie set"?


George,

I was alluding to the conspiracy theorists' claim that both the
holocaust news reels, and the moon landing news reels were hoaxes
created by Hollywood producers for the US goverment. Seems our young
Frenchman buys into the former, anyway. I don't give him enough
credit to think he's teasing.

Dogma4e said:

Which movie were you talking about when you said "the same movie set"?

I was alluding to the conspiracy theorists' claim that both the
holocaust news reels, and the moon landing news reels were hoaxes
created by Hollywood producers for the US goverment.

Oh. I see you've been reading in some of those places that our friend
StynchBlob thinks are sources of Real Truth.

Seems our young
Frenchman buys into the former, anyway. I don't give him enough
credit to think he's teasing.

It's hard to make an accurate guess at how foolish Lionella really is.

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:54:16 -0400, George M. Middius
wrote:



Dogma4e said:

Which movie were you talking about when you said "the same movie set"?

I was alluding to the conspiracy theorists' claim that both the
holocaust news reels, and the moon landing news reels were hoaxes
created by Hollywood producers for the US goverment.

Oh. I see you've been reading in some of those places that our friend
StynchBlob thinks are sources of Real Truth.


I've been expecting him to weigh in here, anytime now.

Dogma4e said:

Oh. I see you've been reading in some of those places that our friend
StynchBlob thinks are sources of Real Truth.

I've been expecting him to weigh in here, anytime now.

Was it you who sent the flowers to Gregipus? Originally I suspected it
was one of his co-workers because the prank hit so many of his
buttons. So I figured it had to be somebody who knew him well. In case
Gregipus hasn't mentioned this, he has claimed that his fellow
salesdroids at Simply Stereo looked up to him as a master seller, went
to him often for advice, turned over the toughest customers to him,
etc. I assumed these claims bore an accuracy similar to the claims of
omniscience he makes on RAO. So it's quite believable that one or more
them know he's a horse's ass.

But if it was you, congratulations -- it worked like a charm.

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:08:30 -0400, George M. Middius
wrote:



Dogma4e said:

Oh. I see you've been reading in some of those places that our friend
StynchBlob thinks are sources of Real Truth.

I've been expecting him to weigh in here, anytime now.

Was it you who sent the flowers to Gregipus? Originally I suspected it
was one of his co-workers because the prank hit so many of his
buttons. So I figured it had to be somebody who knew him well. In case
Gregipus hasn't mentioned this, he has claimed that his fellow
salesdroids at Simply Stereo looked up to him as a master seller, went
to him often for advice, turned over the toughest customers to him,
etc. I assumed these claims bore an accuracy similar to the claims of
omniscience he makes on RAO. So it's quite believable that one or more
them know he's a horse's ass.

But if it was you, congratulations -- it worked like a charm.


That was a stroke of genius, but I can't take credit for it. However,
I later accomplished some very nice work in emails by asking him if he
would like me to sign him up for the Dildo of the Month Club, and have
them delivered to Simply Stereo!

Dogma4e wrote:

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:40:04 -0400, George M. Middius
wrote:



Dogma4e said:


"Death camps never existed. It's an hoax from the Polish Jewish
community."

They used the same movie set to film the "death camps"

In "Saving Private Ryan"?

You'd have to ask Tom Hanks. He should know for sure about both sets.

Which movie were you talking about when you said "the same movie set"?



George,

I was alluding to the conspiracy theorists' claim that both the
holocaust news reels, and the moon landing news reels were hoaxes
created by Hollywood producers for the US goverment.

My dear Hooded-man, I hope that you are not be obliged to make a special
for text explanation for Middius each time you are joking.

Seems our young Frenchman buys into the former, anyway.

Young Frenchman ? I bet I'm about 10 years older than you.
You should pay attention.

I don't give him enough credit to think he's teasing.

Do you prefer to give your credit to Middius ?
You have done the good choice he has already proved that he perfectly
understood your jokes...
LOL !

Nexus 6 wrote:


Lionel wrote:


"Death camps never existed. It's an hoax from American Jewish community."



I hope you aren't serious.


You hope well. Thank you to be confident. :-)
I *hate* history remakes... all of them.
This was just provocation for our hooded friend Dogma4e.

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:38:55 +0200, Lionel
wrote:



My dear Hooded-man, I hope that you are not be obliged to make a special
for text explanation for Middius each time you are joking.

Seems our young Frenchman buys into the former, anyway.

Young Frenchman ? I bet I'm about 10 years older than you.
You should pay attention.

I don't give him enough credit to think he's teasing.

Do you prefer to give your credit to Middius ?
You have done the good choice he has already proved that he perfectly
understood your jokes...
LOL !


????????

Go in peace, Lionel! But first, do tell us you were joking about
death camps being a hoax.