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More Respect for Hunter Thompson
per CNN online
"Journalist Hunter S. Thompson did not take his life "in a moment of haste or anger or despondency" and probably planned his suicide well in advance because of his declining health, the family's spokesman said Wednesday." the full article makes complete sense and fits him perfectly. It was going to be done his way, on his terms. Much respect. I hope they get the cannon. -- Digital Services Recording Studios http://www.digisrvs.com |
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John wrote:
per CNN online "Journalist Hunter S. Thompson did not take his life "in a moment of haste or anger or despondency" and probably planned his suicide well in advance because of his declining health, the family's spokesman said Wednesday." the full article makes complete sense and fits him perfectly. It was going to be done his way, on his terms. Much respect. I hope they get the cannon. Right, so his family can enter the room and find chunks of his brain, skull, eyes, etc. blown about the room, with a rather large spattering of his blood as a backdrop. Nice plan. Sounds like a really great guy. . . |
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Joe Sensor wrote: John wrote: per CNN online "Journalist Hunter S. Thompson did not take his life "in a moment of haste or anger or despondency" and probably planned his suicide well in advance because of his declining health, the family's spokesman said Wednesday." the full article makes complete sense and fits him perfectly. It was going to be done his way, on his terms. Much respect. I hope they get the cannon. Right, so his family can enter the room and find chunks of his brain, skull, eyes, etc. blown about the room, with a rather large spattering of his blood as a backdrop. Nice plan. Sounds like a really great guy. . . There is a really interesting interview with him from jan 2003 on the Democracy Now program for Feb 23rd 2003 http://www.democracynow.org |
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All I know is that I'm putting a provision in my will to be shot out a
cannon when I die. Cremation *prior to* not really necessary. DJ "John" wrote in message ... per CNN online "Journalist Hunter S. Thompson did not take his life "in a moment of haste or anger or despondency" and probably planned his suicide well in advance because of his declining health, the family's spokesman said Wednesday." the full article makes complete sense and fits him perfectly. It was going to be done his way, on his terms. Much respect. I hope they get the cannon. -- Digital Services Recording Studios http://www.digisrvs.com |
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This might change your mind about that one....this is how I'm going out
www.lifegem.com almost makes me look forward to the afterlife =) -- Jonny Durango "Patrick was a saint. I ain't." http://www.jdurango.com "Animix" wrote in message ... All I know is that I'm putting a provision in my will to be shot out a cannon when I die. Cremation *prior to* not really necessary. DJ "John" wrote in message ... per CNN online "Journalist Hunter S. Thompson did not take his life "in a moment of haste or anger or despondency" and probably planned his suicide well in advance because of his declining health, the family's spokesman said Wednesday." the full article makes complete sense and fits him perfectly. It was going to be done his way, on his terms. Much respect. I hope they get the cannon. -- Digital Services Recording Studios http://www.digisrvs.com |
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John wrote:
per CNN online "Journalist Hunter S. Thompson did not take his life "in a moment of haste or anger or despondency" and probably planned his suicide well in advance because of his declining health, the family's spokesman said Wednesday." the full article makes complete sense and fits him perfectly. It was going to be done his way, on his terms. Much respect. I hope they get the cannon. Well if he really wanted to go out with a bang, why didn't he do the cannon on the 4th Of July, while he was still alive? Now _that_ would have been something. And were he my family member I would appreciate a chance to say a real goodbye, I think there is something intrisically cowardly about sneaking off while no one's looking (My opinion based on personal experiences with the matter.) Will Miho NY Music & TV Audio Guy Staff Audio / Fox News Channel / M-AES "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits |
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Joe Sensor wrote: Right, so his family can enter the room and find chunks of his brain, skull, eyes, etc. blown about the room, with a rather large spattering of his blood as a backdrop. Nice plan. Sounds like a really great guy. . . And you know this how? Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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"Joe Sensor" wrote in message
... Right, so his family can enter the room and find chunks of his brain, skull, eyes, etc. blown about the room, with a rather large spattering of his blood as a backdrop. Nice plan. Current laws don't offer many options. I agree the gun messy but it's the core issue of "how do we handle degrading life" that needs to be dealt with. |
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"WillStG" wrote in message
oups.com... And were he my family member I would appreciate a chance to say a real goodbye, I think there is something intrisically cowardly about sneaking off while no one's looking (My opinion based on personal experiences with the matter.) You don't really have that option (for obvious reasons). Unless someone has been in chronic pain/health problems they can't begin to even believe how bad it can be so will likely (with good intention) try to prevent the exit. Again, something our current laws don't address very well. |
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Damn!!! I just had my beautiful old 200 lb geat dane cremated and now he's
sitting in a box on the mantle. To think that my wife could be wearin' him on her pinkie. ;OP "Jonny Durango" wrote in message ... This might change your mind about that one....this is how I'm going out www.lifegem.com almost makes me look forward to the afterlife =) -- Jonny Durango "Patrick was a saint. I ain't." http://www.jdurango.com "Animix" wrote in message ... All I know is that I'm putting a provision in my will to be shot out a cannon when I die. Cremation *prior to* not really necessary. DJ "John" wrote in message ... per CNN online "Journalist Hunter S. Thompson did not take his life "in a moment of haste or anger or despondency" and probably planned his suicide well in advance because of his declining health, the family's spokesman said Wednesday." the full article makes complete sense and fits him perfectly. It was going to be done his way, on his terms. Much respect. I hope they get the cannon. -- Digital Services Recording Studios http://www.digisrvs.com |
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another viewer wrote: In article , Joe Sensor wrote: John wrote: per CNN online "Journalist Hunter S. Thompson did not take his life "in a moment of haste or anger or despondency" and probably planned his suicide well in advance because of his declining health, the family's spokesman said Wednesday." the full article makes complete sense and fits him perfectly. It was going to be done his way, on his terms. Much respect. I hope they get the cannon. Right, so his family can enter the room and find chunks of his brain, skull, eyes, etc. blown about the room, with a rather large spattering of his blood as a backdrop. Nice plan. Sounds like a really great guy. . . i seriously doubt it was done that way, expecially if you read the article, which you obviously haven't. It's been reported that the son and grandson were in the house at the time of the suicide, which was executed in the kitchen. The son discovered the body. Later it was said that mental health care social service types who customarily come to such scenes after the fact asked to speak to the grandchild. I could see some additional trauma from being on hand within shouting distance when the gun went off. The circumstances are sad; no use putting a pretty face on it. Even though the article states he was not "despondant" (this seems like conjecture and shading the facts), I would tend to believe there was a despair at living which had won out in Thompson's heart (which is invariably sad especially given the vibrancy of his daring living), and the apparent fact that he was reported in decent spirits that week could agree with the notion that he'd made his decision to leave this mortal coil and was grinning, bearing and making the best of his last days. But over all the death wish was ascendant. -- Iron Butt Assoc., WATR 4X, BL3 paparazzi, E.O.B. R1100RT, R75/5 "If you are civil to the voluble, they will abuse your patience; if brusque, your character." - Jonathon Swift |
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On 23 Feb 2005 23:37:47 -0800, "WillStG" wrote:
John wrote: per CNN online "Journalist Hunter S. Thompson did not take his life "in a moment of haste or anger or despondency" and probably planned his suicide well in advance because of his declining health, the family's spokesman said Wednesday." the full article makes complete sense and fits him perfectly. It was going to be done his way, on his terms. Much respect. I hope they get the cannon. Well if he really wanted to go out with a bang, why didn't he do the cannon on the 4th Of July, while he was still alive? Now _that_ would have been something. And were he my family member I would appreciate a chance to say a real goodbye, I think there is something intrisically cowardly about sneaking off while no one's looking (My opinion based on personal experiences with the matter.) He didn't sneak off. His wife was on the phone while he did it, and his son was in the next room. |
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And were he my family member I would appreciate a chance to say a
real goodbye, I think there is something intrisically cowardly about sneaking off while no one's looking (My opinion based on personal experiences with the matter.) Will Miho A spokesman for the Thompson family said Wednesday that the family had no hint that Thompson was going to take his own life, but in retrospect, they believe that he planned the act and had spent the days before his suicide bonding with his family. "This was not just an act of irrationality," said spokesman Douglas Brinkley. "It was a very preplanned act." |
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"dale" wrote in message oups.com... And were he my family member I would appreciate a chance to say a real goodbye, I think there is something intrisically cowardly about sneaking off while no one's looking (My opinion based on personal experiences with the matter.) Will Miho A spokesman for the Thompson family said Wednesday that the family had no hint that Thompson was going to take his own life, but in retrospect, they believe that he planned the act and had spent the days before his suicide bonding with his family. "This was not just an act of irrationality," said spokesman Douglas Brinkley. "It was a very preplanned act." I've personally experienced the aftermath of two suicides by gunshot. They were both preplanned. The victims of the suicide were the friends and family who had the honor of hearing and then subsequently discovering/trying to resussitate and then finally watching helplessly in abject horror as the individual died. I'm sure that his son and wife are going to have some fond and colorful memories of the kitchen cleanup. DJ |
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"John" wrote in message ... Much respect. I hope they get the cannon. They've got access to one, anyway. A local Denver radio station found someone with one or more cannon to do the honors. Glenn D. |
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In article .com,
"WillStG" wrote: And were he my family member I would appreciate a chance to say a real goodbye, I think there is something intrisically cowardly about sneaking off while no one's looking (My opinion based on personal experiences with the matter.) Hunter did exactly that, he spent the weekend with his entire family. I think it was well planned and executed. You obviously didn't read the news report from the family I referenced. Sorry your personal experiences weren't as well done. -- Digital Services Recording Studios http://www.digisrvs.com |
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John wrote: In article .com, "WillStG" wrote: And were he my family member I would appreciate a chance to say a real goodbye, I think there is something intrisically cowardly about sneaking off while no one's looking (My opinion based on personal experiences with the matter.) Hunter did exactly that, he spent the weekend with his entire family. I think it was well planned and executed. You obviously didn't read the news report from the family I referenced. Sorry your personal experiences weren't as well done. A lot of people live their lives with a greater burden - and much greater courage - than Hunter Thompson's showed by his suicide. In my book it is a selfish, chicken **** and cowardly way he choose to go out. But you go ahead and follow the path of your idol, people will follow their idols to the grave and there is no use discussing it. Certainly many young people at risk have chosen to follow the way of Kurt Cobain, or decided to be herion addicts and die in the gutter because they idolized Bird or Jaco. But at least some H addicts survive long enough to tell you they screwed up, but when a guy commits suicide, if that turns out to have serious negative personal consequences it ain't too easy to pass on the message to your admireres that you really screwed up and it was dumbass move unworthy of emulation. Will Miho NY Music & TV Audio Guy Staff Audio / Fox News Channel / M-AES "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits |
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Well I agree to an extent... but how do you know he didn't say goodby
first? I'm not bummed he's dead but that fact that he killed himself in that particular way is a drag. Al On 24 Feb 2005 03:50:32 -0800, "dale" wrote: And were he my family member I would appreciate a chance to say a real goodbye, I think there is something intrisically cowardly about sneaking off while no one's looking (My opinion based on personal experiences with the matter.) Will Miho A spokesman for the Thompson family said Wednesday that the family had no hint that Thompson was going to take his own life, but in retrospect, they believe that he planned the act and had spent the days before his suicide bonding with his family. "This was not just an act of irrationality," said spokesman Douglas Brinkley. "It was a very preplanned act." |
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On 24 Feb 2005 11:46:40 -0800, "WillStG" wrote:
In my book it is a selfish, chicken **** and cowardly way he choose to go out. Yeah but we all know about your opinions. Since you weren't privy to the details why don't you chill out with the harsh judgmental attitude, dude? Al |
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play_on wrote: On 24 Feb 2005 11:46:40 -0800, "WillStG" wrote: In my book it is a selfish, chicken **** and cowardly way he choose to go out. Yeah but we all know about your opinions. Since you weren't privy to the details why don't you chill out with the harsh judgmental attitude, dude? Be a man Al, stand up on your own feet, own your own opinions, and stop hiding behind the bull**** "we all know" line. But as I said there's no use arguing it, you have every right to follow your "respected" idol's chicken **** dumbass moves right into the grave. Go ahead and emulate your hero if you think it was such a noble thing to do, to leave his brains splattered all over house for his family to find. But when you "do it" I'll be just as ****ed at you as I am at Hunter Thompson, and my eulogy for you will be your end was also a predictable, dumbass, and chicken **** move. Will Miho NY Music & TV Audio Guy Staff Audio / Fox News Channel / M-AES "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits |
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another viewer wrote: no dear, the cowardly way to go out is terminally ill, plugged up to every machine imaginable and wasting away time and money when the inevitable is present. Strawman. He was not terminally ill. The news accounts report he had been saying for the last 2 years he "wanted to die before it stopped being fun." He was afraid of growing old. And he shot himself in the head with a 6 year old in the house, there is no excuse for that. planning and saying "i love you all, here is why this is happening and goodbye, the inevitable is going to happen on my terms" takes fortitude most people can't imagine. That's not what happened either. And there is a big difference between not being kept alive artificially and shooting yourself in the head. The facts of Thompsosn's own words suggest he simply feared old age, that he in fact succumbed to his inner fears. But I am fully aware that some of you prefer to maintain a heroic mythology for people you would idolize, even when they act in a manner that is blatantly and obviously unworthy of such admiration. But such is the nature of "True Believers". Will Miho NY Music and TV Audio Guy Staff Audio / Fox News / M-AES "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits |
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WillStG wrote:
A lot of people live their lives with a greater burden - and much greater courage - than Hunter Thompson's showed by his suicide. In my book it is a selfish, chicken **** and cowardly way he choose to go out. Your book does not yet have in it its own final pages. Talk the talk when you've walked the walk. How much judgement is a good Christian supposed to bring to bear on his fellow humans? Have some pages fallen from your Book? -- ha |
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x-no archive: yes
WillStG wrote: That's not what happened either. As if you know. -- ha |
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another viewer wrote: no dear, the cowardly way to go out is terminally ill, plugged up to every machine imaginable and wasting away time and money when the inevitable is present. planning and saying "i love you all, here is why this is happening and goodbye, the inevitable is going to happen on my terms" takes fortitude most people can't imagine. Hear, hear. It was my fathers choice and we respected him deeply for having the courage to make it. No, we weren't privy apriori; he wouldn't have burdened us with that particular foreknowledge. Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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hank alrich wrote: WillStG wrote: A lot of people live their lives with a greater burden - and much greater courage - than Hunter Thompson's showed by his suicide. In my book it is a selfish, chicken **** and cowardly way he choose to go out. Your book does not yet have in it its own final pages. Talk the talk when you've walked the walk. That would, indeed, be novel for him. Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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nmm wrote:
There is a really interesting interview with him from jan 2003 on the Democracy Now program for Feb 23rd 2003 http://www.democracynow.org/browsebydate.pl?year=2003&month=02 has not entry for February 23rd. Searching brings up just the recent stuff. Got a pointer? |
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hank alrich wrote:
Your book does not yet have in it its own final pages. Talk the talk when you've walked the walk. How much judgement is a good Christian supposed to bring to bear on his fellow humans? Have some pages fallen from your Book? Another strawman. Thompson was not terminally ill by any account at all, and you have no basis to claim he was other than a need to romanticize the man's tragic self destruction. He had some pain from breaking a leg in Hawaii, he had a replacement hip - so what? This is a "courage" you admire? This was so tremendous a burden he had to kill himself? ****. Curtis Mayfield made his last record lying flat on his back. Warreb Zevon kept right on working to the end. **** Hank, you want your kids to follow this kind of an asshole's example? It is very common that suicides beget suicides in a lineage. And I most certainly *have* "walked the walk" of personally experiencing what a stupid tragic thing the suicide of someone you are close to is , and no excuse you have given so far for Thompson would have changed anything in that regard. I have also seen how suicide can lead to more suicide, and haunt and destroy the living. Or is it that according to you one may only talk about what a cowardly, stupid thing a suicide like this is only after *I* am dead? Well that Bob Cain concurs with _that_ is certainly no surprise. "True believers" indeed, to make such weak excuses for a man who lacked the courage to face his inner fears and narcissism - or maybe just to excuse your own denial over how reprehensible what he did was. Will Miho NY Music and TV Audio Guy Staff A1 /Fox News Channel / M-AES "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits |
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WillStG wrote:
Another strawman. But in this case I am apparently addressing a plastic man. Reality is this: it is non of your ****ing business how Hunter Thompson chose to live or end his life. -- ha |
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WillStG wrote: Or is it that according to you one may only talk about what a cowardly, stupid thing a suicide like this is only after *I* am dead? Well that Bob Cain concurs with _that_ is certainly no surprise. Will you _ever_ stop putting words in other people's mouths? "True believers" indeed, to make such weak excuses for a man who lacked the courage to face his inner fears and narcissism - or maybe just to excuse your own denial over how reprehensible what he did was. Will you ever be comfortable with choices others make for themselves rather than those you make for them? If there is one single thing you are totally consistent about or one single thread that underlies most all of your opinions, it is that. Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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"hank alrich" wrote in message
WillStG wrote: Another strawman. But in this case I am apparently addressing a plastic man. Reality is this: it is non of your ****ing business how Hunter Thompson chose to live or end his life. Point of order. It became our business when his son released the info to the press. What remains not our business is judging the man. If you believe in God, then Christian theology says that God not us will judge. If you don't believe in an afterlife, then judging is meaningless. Either way, its not our call. |
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hank alrich wrote:
WillStG wrote: Another strawman. But in this case I am apparently addressing a plastic man. Reality is this: it is non of your ****ing business how Hunter Thompson chose to live or end his life. This thread is titled "More respect for Hunter Thompson", and if you or anyone else here is entitled to kiss Hunter Thompson's dead ass for blowing his brains out and to glorify his suicide as some kind of noble moral imperative, well then I am *certainly* entitled to comment on the fact that your beloved "Emperor" is in fact wearing no clothes (so to speak), and that you are all in denial of the very ugly fact. RIP, sure. Glorify what he did, like some here are doing? _Bull****_ Hank. Will Miho NY Music and TV Audio Guy Staff A1 / Fox News Channel / M-AES "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits |
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WillStG wrote: hank alrich wrote: WillStG wrote: Another strawman. But in this case I am apparently addressing a plastic man. Reality is this: it is non of your ****ing business how Hunter Thompson chose to live or end his life. This thread is titled "More respect for Hunter Thompson", and if you or anyone else here is entitled to kiss Hunter Thompson's dead ass for blowing his brains out and to glorify his suicide as some kind of noble moral imperative, well then I am *certainly* entitled to comment on the fact that your beloved "Emperor" is in fact wearing no clothes (so to speak), and that you are all in denial of the very ugly fact. RIP, sure. Glorify what he did, like some here are doing? _Bull****_ Hank. Weren't you the one who was all over anyone who said a bad word against dead Bonzo? Now Gonzo is gone and you say things like "kiss Hunter Thompson's dead ass for blowing his brains". Why don't you just admit it Will, you are just another Male Escort paid by the Bush administration to make right wing trolls on the net. |
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Kurt Albershardt wrote: nmm wrote: There is a really interesting interview with him from jan 2003 on the Democracy Now program for Feb 23rd 2003 http://www.democracynow.org/browsebydate.pl?year=2003&month=02 has not entry for February 23rd. Searching brings up just the recent stuff. Got a pointer? http://www.democracynow.org/article....5/02/23/164218 Sorry it was program for Feb 23rd 2005. I was rolling on the floor when they asked him if he'd ever been to Iraq. |
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Arny Krueger wrote:
"hank alrich" wrote WillStG wrote: Another strawman. But in this case I am apparently addressing a plastic man. Reality is this: it is non of your ****ing business how Hunter Thompson chose to live or end his life. Point of order. It became our business when his son released the info to the press. I imagine that was done to attempt to reduce idle speculation. What remains not our business is judging the man. If you believe in God, then Christian theology says that God not us will judge. If you don't believe in an afterlife, then judging is meaningless. Either way, its not our call. Amen. -- ha |
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WillStG wrote:
hank alrich wrote: WillStG wrote: Another strawman. But in this case I am apparently addressing a plastic man. Reality is this: it is non of your ****ing business how Hunter Thompson chose to live or end his life. This thread is titled "More respect for Hunter Thompson", and if you or anyone else here is entitled to kiss Hunter Thompson's dead ass for blowing his brains out and to glorify his suicide as some kind of noble moral imperative, well then I am *certainly* entitled to comment on the fact that your beloved "Emperor" is in fact wearing no clothes (so to speak), and that you are all in denial of the very ugly fact. RIP, sure. Glorify what he did, like some here are doing? _Bull****_ Hank. Man, you are unbelieveable in your ability to put words into other's mouths and think you heard them speak. You area a fake Christian, standing in judgement of many others, a warmonger hiding in TV land while others die in the name of yoru own hypocrisy. My maternal grandfather, in his late 80's, wrote his family a goodbye note. Said he was going to get to the point of not being able to take care of himself, and he didn't want anybody to have to take care of him. His wife had died three years after my mom's birth, of pneumonia, and he had never remarried. He gave up duck hunting when he couldn't go get his own birds. Yes, he was a proud man. He dressed himself in a very nice three-piece suit, sat down in the bathtub so as not to make a mess, and shot himself through the heart. My mom would have liked to have been able to take care of him, but she and everyone else in his large family understood his view. I have known quite a few people who took their own life, some of them young and some of them old. I say their life was theirs. I have said nothing about HTS being any kind of beloved to me, nor called him an emperor. I have never even read any of his works completely. I don't know where you get this bull**** unless it just clings to your cheeks whenever you momentarily take your head out of your ass. I have said how he ended his own life is none of your own ****ing business, and I stand by that. Now if you want to keep jacking off go rub your forehead. I figure you're ****ed because HTS was more famous than you are. Get used to it. -- ha |
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Bob Cain wrote:
Will you ever be comfortable with choices others make for themselves rather than those you make for them? If there is one single thing you are totally consistent about or one single thread that underlies most all of your opinions, it is that. Maybe you think suicide is a wonderful "Choice" Bob, and I will even cede there may be circumstances where is is not a self centered and stupidly destructive/self destructive act. But not in this case, not in this circumstance, and that some here find Thompson's suicide an example worthy of celebration, even admiration turns my stomuch. But obviously Bob, you already drank the koolaid. Will Miho NY Music & TV Audio Guy Staff A1 / Fox News Channel / M-AES "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits |
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WillStG wrote:
But obviously Bob, you already drank the koolaid. Many of the folks I've known who took their own life did so because they couldn't survive psychologically after their experiences in Viet Nam, and the way we treat them around Agent Orange and such has been so thoughtful and considerate. Now we see our noble leader wanting to deprive Desert Storm vets of their rightful settlement. Somebody is drinking the koolaid, but it ain't Bob Cain. Somebody has declared themself to be the perfect judge of their fellow humans, but it ain't Bob Cain. -- ha |
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the next book...
"Fear and Loathing" in Grandpa's Kitchen. I don't want to pass judgement on the man, no doubt a good writer. Not very considerate for his family though if he did commit suicide. May he rest in peace. |
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"WillStG" wrote in message
ups.com... A lot of people live their lives with a greater burden - and much greater courage - than Hunter Thompson's showed by his suicide. In my book it is a selfish, chicken **** and cowardly way he choose to go out. I have to say in the bigger picture I think it will hurt the issue of right to die with dignity. But he really didn't have any other (legal) options. |
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"hank alrich" wrote in message
. .. Your book does not yet have in it its own final pages. Talk the talk when you've walked the walk. How much judgement is a good Christian supposed to bring to bear on his fellow humans? Have some pages fallen from your Book? That's going to be the sad reckoning. Though it won't happen to most of them a horrible exit awaits at least a few of those people who have championed "right to life" at all costs no matter how much it extends the suffering. God has a funny way of smacking us in our self-righteous mouths when we've judged other's choices. He often puts us in that same position. And when he does, see if your belief (not your faith) about what is the right thing to do in that situation stays the same. |
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