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Rockford Fosgate: quality or crap?
Fosgate used to be reputable. Used to be one of the best. As of lately
they've gone downhill fast. -- --------------------------------------------- :-D I just cut the cheese! "Steve Grauman" wrote in message ... I want to use Alpine's Type X speakers with my new Eclipse headunit, hopefully, the SPX-F17T 3-way system. This particular speaker setup can handle 75 watts per channel of RMS power, and I've been told that it's a good idea to get an amp that's slightly more powerful than what your speakers can handle, that way the gains can stay low, and there's less chance of damage to the amp. Alpine's MRV-F540 was a runner up, but at 12 volts (what I assume my car will be giving the amp while it is running), it's power drops to 50x4, short of what I'm looking for. JL Audio's 300/4 was reccomended to me, but with 75x4 of RMS power, it's only just barely powerful enough, and I'd probably need to keep it's gains turned all the way up. I noticed that Rockford has an amp in their Power Series that's rated at 110x4 @ 4 OHMS. Even if this output was rated at 14 volts, I have to assume that an amp this powerful could clear 80 watts or more per channel with a 12 volt input. But I'm concerned that Rockford is crap, mainly because I only see low-end retail stores like Best Buy selling it. Is there a concensus on RF products? |
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Rockford Fosgate: quality or crap?
errr... who knows about that... but usually my car puts out the usual 14.4
volts. do u have a volt meter on your dash? "Gravity" wrote in message ... Fosgate used to be reputable. Used to be one of the best. As of lately they've gone downhill fast. -- --------------------------------------------- :-D I just cut the cheese! "Steve Grauman" wrote in message ... I want to use Alpine's Type X speakers with my new Eclipse headunit, hopefully, the SPX-F17T 3-way system. This particular speaker setup can handle 75 watts per channel of RMS power, and I've been told that it's a good idea to get an amp that's slightly more powerful than what your speakers can handle, that way the gains can stay low, and there's less chance of damage to the amp. Alpine's MRV-F540 was a runner up, but at 12 volts (what I assume my car will be giving the amp while it is running), it's power drops to 50x4, short of what I'm looking for. JL Audio's 300/4 was reccomended to me, but with 75x4 of RMS power, it's only just barely powerful enough, and I'd probably need to keep it's gains turned all the way up. I noticed that Rockford has an amp in their Power Series that's rated at 110x4 @ 4 OHMS. Even if this output was rated at 14 volts, I have to assume that an amp this powerful could clear 80 watts or more per channel with a 12 volt input. But I'm concerned that Rockford is crap, mainly because I only see low-end retail stores like Best Buy selling it. Is there a concensus on RF products? |
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Rockford Fosgate: quality or crap?
RF still makes great amps but admittedly you can do better for the
money. Look at the Phoenix Gold Tantrum line. But if you have the money RF still makes clean, solid amps. You just pay a premium for the name and looks. -- THX ------------------------------------------------------------------------ CarAudioForum.com - Usenet Gateway w/over one million posts online! View this thread: http://www.caraudioforum.com/vbb2/sh...hreadid=156648 |
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Rockford Fosgate: quality or crap?
errr... who knows about that... but usually my car puts out the usual 14.4
volts. do u have a volt meter on your dash? No, I've just got to assume that my car is only going to be giving 12 volts. If I assume that my car will supply 14, and it falls short, then I'm not actually getting the power I want/need. |
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Rockford Fosgate: quality or crap?
RF still makes great amps but admittedly you can do better for the
money. Look at the Phoenix Gold Tantrum line. But if you have the money RF still makes clean, solid amps. You just pay a premium for the name and looks. I'll have to look into PG, although I'm not sure they make an amp powerful enough for my application. What're the differences between the Tantrum and Titanium lines? |
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Rockford Fosgate: quality or crap?
I would take the JL
amp though. It's only rated for 75 per like you said but it does considerably more. If you set the gains as outlined in the JL manual then you'll be fine. I have a 300/4 and it produces more than enough power. If I knew that the JL could make a clean 80 to 85 watts per channel RMS @ 4 OHMS from a 12 volt input, I'd just take it. |
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Rockford Fosgate: quality or crap?
Care to eloborate Mark? It's hard for me to make a judgement call when one
person simply says "this is crap" and another says "no, it isn't". I don't think you'll get much more than that. Nevermind I said anything. |
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Rockford Fosgate: quality or crap?
Rusted Fuzzgate? Maybe it's just my experience... Only amplifier I
owned that died on me... Your mileage may vary... On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 11:04:40 GMT, "Mark Zarella" wrote: Fosgate used to be reputable. Used to be one of the best. As of lately they've gone downhill fast. This is a load of crap. Thanks for playing. Troll elsewhere. |
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Rockford Fosgate: quality or crap?
It's too vague
to be properly answered anyway. How much more specific should I/can I be? The only way I could get any more specific would be to ask about the *exact* amp I'm looking at. But than the field of people answereing my post would narrow a great deal, if not dissappear completely, because the title of the post itself would chase off anyone who hasn't used that exact amp. |
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Rockford Fosgate: quality or crap?
You asked if RF in general was crap. Maybe you should ask about their amps.
I personally can't stand their new subs, but I think their amps are still fine, especially their Power series amps. Paul Vina "Steve Grauman" wrote in message ... It's too vague to be properly answered anyway. How much more specific should I/can I be? The only way I could get any more specific would be to ask about the *exact* amp I'm looking at. But than the field of people answereing my post would narrow a great deal, if not dissappear completely, because the title of the post itself would chase off anyone who hasn't used that exact amp. |
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Rockford Fosgate: quality or crap?
How much more specific should I/can I be? The only way I could get any
more specific would be to ask about the *exact* amp I'm looking at. But than the field of people answereing my post would narrow a great deal, if not dissappear completely, because the title of the post itself would chase off anyone who hasn't used that exact amp. Are they any good? Well, good is a relative term. What do you mean? What do you want it to do for you? All amplifirs will amplify the signal correctly. The key is to get it to amplify it enough for your use. That can be achieved by getting bigger amplifiers. Are you talking about reliability? Are you talking about features and add-ons? Are you talking about looks? Are you talking about ease of installation? Are you talking about the irrelevant numbers that it'll put on a scope? Are you talking about price? It's impossible to answer your question unless you're more specific. |
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Rockford Fosgate: quality or crap?
Are you talking about reliability?
Are you talking about features and add-ons? Are you talking about looks? Are you talking about ease of installation? Are you talking about the irrelevant numbers that it'll put on a scope? Are you talking about price? It's impossible to answer your question unless you're more specific I want an amp that can power speakers rated for 75 watts of RMS power without clipping, burning up, or doing anything else that will damage it, or any other part of my car. I want an amp with some headroom so I don't need the gains turned all the way up, and I don't have to worry about this crap happening. But I thought I covered all that already. I obviousy wasn't asking about speakers, subwoofers, or caps, my question was directed towards amps. |
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Rockford Fosgate: quality or crap?
I'm not too impressed by their subs. They have very tight suspensions made for tiny enclosures. It really drags down the low frequency efficiency. The suspension doesn't really hurt low end extension, it just means you need to go with a vented design as opposed to sealed. Low end extension will not be a problem in a car. Paul Vina |
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Rockford Fosgate: quality or crap?
How about stuff like:
Do RF amps have a reputation for poor build quality? Nope. Are there any problems, major or minor that RF amps regularly suffer from? Nope. Is there a better amp for about the same money? How much? Will I gain anything in terms of *audible* sound quality or reliability by going to a different/more expensive amp? A bigger amp may sound better if you'll be driving this one into clipping. That's a matter of your personal use mostly - something I don't have insight into. If not, then you won't gain anything by going with another amp. |
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Rockford Fosgate: quality or crap?
I just went all out today and got 2 rockford HE2 12's, the rf cap and
1500 wat amp... all for pretty damn cheap.. this is my first real setup... i havent installed yet.. thats tomorow, but please tell me rockfords not crap -- geto van ------------------------------------------------------------------------ CarAudioForum.com - Usenet Gateway w/over one million posts online! View this thread: http://www.caraudioforum.com/vbb2/sh...hreadid=156648 |
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Rockford Fosgate: quality or crap?
RF wouldn't have been around for 25 years or so and have the rep they do if
they built crap. Jeez. Paul Vina "geto van" wrote in message s.com... I just went all out today and got 2 rockford HE2 12's, the rf cap and 1500 wat amp... all for pretty damn cheap.. this is my first real setup... i havent installed yet.. thats tomorow, but please tell me rockfords not crap -- geto van ------------------------------------------------------------------------ CarAudioForum.com - Usenet Gateway w/over one million posts online! View this thread: http://www.caraudioforum.com/vbb2/sh...hreadid=156648 |
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Rockford Fosgate: quality or crap?
Pyramid, Jensen, Rockwood, etc. have been around for quite some time also.
So? Jensen was the pioneer of audio in many aspects. Pyramid makes some very affordfable relatively decent electronics. Rockwood doesn't make anything worthwhile or cost effective, which may go to explain why they're not nearly the size of the two other companies. Also, Rockford does indeed have a reputation, and this is the same reputation they can ride when selling lower quality products... What lower quality products? |
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Rockford Fosgate: quality or crap?
I took it to mean their low-end versus their high-end lines. Like the
RFZs or the older Series 1 subs versus stuff like the Team RF or RFDs or HX2 lines. I believe the HEs and HE2s are about their mid-lines. The Series 1 subs were crap, fell apart all the time and were easily blown, while their higher end stuff rocked and were very sturdy. Mark Zarella wrote: What lower quality products? |
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