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starting up an old power amp
I have a Woodside STA35 stereo power amp (using EL-34 power tubes) that has
laid around unused for about 12 yrs. What precautions should I take when starting it up...eg should I use a variac ...and if so, what's the recommended procedure with it ? Does it require a speaker load to be connected ? Thank you,' Ray |
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"Ray Thomas" wrote in message ... I have a Woodside STA35 stereo power amp (using EL-34 power tubes) that has laid around unused for about 12 yrs. What precautions should I take when starting it up...eg should I use a variac ...and if so, what's the recommended procedure with it ? Does it require a speaker load to be connected ? Thank you,' Ray Jon has answered your questions fully, except for the question of the speaker load. You might be wise to put a dummy load, 8 Ohms 10W across each output. The Woodside amp uses transformers designed by Arthur Radford. In the technical specification of the STA25, from which the STA35 is developed, Radford stated that the amplifier can run indefinitely at full power into either a short circuit or open circuit load. But why would you want to do that? Iain |
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"Ray Thomas" wrote in message ... I have a Woodside STA35 stereo power amp (using EL-34 power tubes) that has laid around unused for about 12 yrs. What precautions should I take when starting it up...eg should I use a variac ...and if so, what's the recommended procedure with it ? Does it require a speaker load to be connected ? **I assume it uses a solid state bridge rectifier? If so, use your VariacT to slowly power up the amp, with the tubes removed, whilst monitoring the Voltages across the first HT capacitor/s. Spend at least 24 hours gradually powering up. This should ensure proper forming of electrolytic caps. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au |
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"Trevor Wilson" wrote
**I assume it uses a solid state bridge rectifier? If so, use your VariacT to slowly power up the amp, with the tubes removed, whilst monitoring the Voltages across the first HT capacitor/s. Spend at least 24 hours gradually powering up. This should ensure proper forming of electrolytic caps. I would go with the tube pulling too, and the monitoring of a cap, but which do you mean by the first one? I would follow the one with the lowest voltage rating, which is the last, usually, from the point of view of the power supply. With the valves removed, there will be no current to drop the voltage at each stage, so caps further down the supply may go over their voltage limits. Perhaps if this would be the case, valves can be added to each stage in progression as the voltage is brought up to full level. But there isn't an ideal way of reforming multiple caps in circuit. Really you need to monitor the leakage current, and back off and wait whenever it gets jittery or too high. The time can be long or short. So better to err on the long side: your suggestion of 24 hrs seems reasonable. cheers, Ian |
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"Ian Iveson" wrote in message o.uk... "Trevor Wilson" wrote **I assume it uses a solid state bridge rectifier? If so, use your VariacT to slowly power up the amp, with the tubes removed, whilst monitoring the Voltages across the first HT capacitor/s. Spend at least 24 hours gradually powering up. This should ensure proper forming of electrolytic caps. I would go with the tube pulling too, and the monitoring of a cap, but which do you mean by the first one? I would follow the one with the lowest voltage rating, which is the last, usually, from the point of view of the power supply. With the valves removed, there will be no current to drop the voltage at each stage, so caps further down the supply may go over their voltage limits. Perhaps if this would be the case, valves can be added to each stage in progression as the voltage is brought up to full level. But there isn't an ideal way of reforming multiple caps in circuit. Really you need to monitor the leakage current, and back off and wait whenever it gets jittery or too high. The time can be long or short. So better to err on the long side: your suggestion of 24 hrs seems reasonable. **Agreed. Monitoring ALL caps would be sensible. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au |
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But there isn't an ideal way of reforming multiple caps in circuit.
Really you need to monitor the leakage current, and back off and wait whenever it gets jittery or too high. The time can be long or short. So better to err on the long side: your suggestion of 24 hrs seems reasonable. **Agreed. Monitoring ALL caps would be sensible. actually, the most sensible course of action is to REPLACE ALL electrolytic caps on this 40+ year old amp BEFORE ever powering it up. yeah, it might work with the old caps, for a while, but why chance the irreplaceable trannies and the expensive GZ34 rectifier it likely has? You also risk the expensive EL34 tubes, if they are NOS, you could by a 100's of caps for what those are worth! electrolytic caps should be replaced in old equipment BEFORE they take out hard to find parts! |
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